Re: So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Well I knew Apple would integrate accessibility somehow like they have 
done in their other products. Yes in the early days there were no 
accessibility at all in Apple products but times have changed for the 
better.


On 18/03/2015 22:22, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi.

A few days ago, I found out that Voice Over is on the Apple watch.  So after 
all that fuss that I made to Apple, which was well worth it, we get Voice Over 
coming to the Apple Watch.  As soon as it is released, I'll be getting the 
sports model as I have no time keeping device and I for some reason do not like 
blind talking watches and for the braille watches, dog hair seems to destroy 
the watch as my guide dog malts like crazy.

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Re: So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.

[Christopher Hallsworth]

I like talking watches but use my iPhone or iPad to check the time. Even 
if I did get the Apple Watch, I would have to upgrade my phone which I 
have no plans on doing unless it breaks. Just my £0.02 worth.


On 19/03/2015 00:18, Mary Otten wrote:

I am not going to go out and get an Apple Watch right away. Maybe never. I 
really hate talking watches. And luckily for me, I have had the same braille 
watch for many many years. I use a guy dog, and mice faithful braille watch 
still works. Nothing like looking at the time in a meeting without letting the 
rest of the people know you did it.
Mary


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On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hi.

A few days ago, I found out that Voice Over is on the Apple watch.  So after 
all that fuss that I made to Apple, which was well worth it, we get Voice Over 
coming to the Apple Watch.  As soon as it is released, I'll be getting the 
sports model as I have no time keeping device and I for some reason do not like 
blind talking watches and for the braille watches, dog hair seems to destroy 
the watch as my guide dog malts like crazy.

Kawal.

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Re: So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mary,

I’m with you on the braille watch. I’ve had my current one for years, despite a 
houseful of dogs and cats. The Apple watch appears to be too bulky for my 
liking.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 19 Mar 2015, at 01:18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am not going to go out and get an Apple Watch right away. Maybe never. I 
> really hate talking watches. And luckily for me, I have had the same braille 
> watch for many many years. I use a guy dog, and mice faithful braille watch 
> still works. Nothing like looking at the time in a meeting without letting 
> the rest of the people know you did it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> A few days ago, I found out that Voice Over is on the Apple watch.  So after 
>> all that fuss that I made to Apple, which was well worth it, we get Voice 
>> Over coming to the Apple Watch.  As soon as it is released, I'll be getting 
>> the sports model as I have no time keeping device and I for some reason do 
>> not like blind talking watches and for the braille watches, dog hair seems 
>> to destroy the watch as my guide dog malts like crazy.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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How do you find a specific radio station in the IOS SiriusXM app?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I'm trying to find the Coffeehouse station in the Sirius app, and absolutely 
can't find it.  Does anyone know if there's some way to search for a specific 
station?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.

[Mary Otten]

I am not going to go out and get an Apple Watch right away. Maybe never. I 
really hate talking watches. And luckily for me, I have had the same braille 
watch for many many years. I use a guy dog, and mice faithful braille watch 
still works. Nothing like looking at the time in a meeting without letting the 
rest of the people know you did it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> A few days ago, I found out that Voice Over is on the Apple watch.  So after 
> all that fuss that I made to Apple, which was well worth it, we get Voice 
> Over coming to the Apple Watch.  As soon as it is released, I'll be getting 
> the sports model as I have no time keeping device and I for some reason do 
> not like blind talking watches and for the braille watches, dog hair seems to 
> destroy the watch as my guide dog malts like crazy.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Mp3 files and looping.

[Phil Halton]

AmadeusPro has a looping feature. I use it with my own homemade guitar rhythm 
loops. I am not sure, but I think there is a free or trial version that will 
not limit your abilities in this regard.

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have an mp3 file that I would like to put in a folder where it will play 
> several times without stopping.
> Can I do this with Quicktime? 
> 
> Is there a free program that will allow me to do this?
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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Mp3 files and looping.

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi all,
I have an mp3 file that I would like to put in a folder where it will play 
several times without stopping.
Can I do this with Quicktime? 

Is there a free program that will allow me to do this?
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[David Griffith]

That is correct but you will also have to navigate into the dialogue and 
interact a couple of times to get into the meat of the download message. 
My own personal preference is to set up a Folder Alert service on the 
downloads folder.


This brings a message up whenever a download starts  and then brings up 
another message when the download is completed. There are pros and cons 
to this, the major con is that the message is not automatically 
announced by Voiceover and you have to use VO reading commands to read 
the dialogue which will otherwise stay silent. However as you will be 
expecting something to come up after pressing a  download link this is 
not too much of a problem.
I covered this in one of my Podcasts which should still be on Apple Vis 
I think.


David Griffith

On 18/03/2015 22:12, Eugenia Firth wrote:

If I remember right, the Macintosh command to check your downloads is option 
command L, and then you press The escape key to get out of it.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

Pressing vo+a will read from your cursor position. Safari does not really give 
any indication that a fileis downloading, you will need to go to the toolbar if 
it's enabled, and check the download status there.
Original message:

Hello all:
I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.
First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless the 
content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back up from 
there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key was taken 
away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) but 
there’s not a key. Can I assign one?
2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like to 
read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
file. Is there a way for notifications?
4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but I’d 
love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things where 
sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
TIA.



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Re: found excellent new mac app

[Lorie McCloud]

the visuals on  you tube videos aren’t of me performing. we took a bunch of 
still photos and a friend of mine arranged them in a certain order and created 
the visuals for my youtube videos. the playing and singing is me though. I 
recorded most of them in a studio in Corpus Christi, Tx. I wrote the songs too. 
I’m not comfortable putting song by other writers on youtube although I perform 
plenty of them. 

thanks for the compliments!
My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud   

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 12:37 AM, dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> hello lauri thanks for your youtube channel, i would like to ask you if your 
> audios in youtube have videos of you singing, and how did you do that? where 
> did you arrange your song, there are really good transitions on it, you are 
> so good.
>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 02:04, jeffrey greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lorie, I can’t really answer that since i’ve never used walter. Its an 
>> app where you can transfer media to and from your iphone.
>> ‘Jeff
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> is this app anything like Walter?
>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud   
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2015, at 9:39 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
 
 Hi, Robert, I think you'll really like this app. I'm going to purchase
 it, its way faster and less fussy than going through itunes. Also,
 love your podcast.
 Hi George, go to macgeekgab.com or search for it in tuunes or the
 apple podcast app on your iphone.
 
 
 On 3/17/15, george b  wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> Where can I find mac geek gab  please.
> 
> thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 06:30
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: found excellent new mac app
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like you, I got interested in iMazing listening to the Mac Geek Gab. I 
> wrote
> the developer and they said they thought it worked with VoiceOver. I was
> just about to give it a try when I saw your message. This is good news.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:11 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I've been listening to the mac geek gab for years. They recently
>> started recommending IMazing. I downloaded the free trial and tried it
>> last night and its great! The app lets you put stuff on your IPhone
>> without using ITunes. It also lets you copy stuff from your IPhone
>> into Itunes or into a folder on your mac. The app is completely
>> accessible with VO and all the buttons are labeled. The only problem I
>> had was I was copying tv shows to my iphone and another app needed
>> attention, when i went back to imazing I couldn't find the copy status
>> window. I'll let the developer know about this, so maybe they'll fix
>> it in an update. I haven't bought the app yet, but I think it costs
>> $49.
>> Just thought you'd like to know! Jeff
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Re: So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I would like to have the one made of steel but i don't  know the differences.
There are no good sport braille watch if i am correctly informed.
/A
> 18 mar 2015 kl. 23:22 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
> Hi.
> 
> A few days ago, I found out that Voice Over is on the Apple watch.  So after 
> all that fuss that I made to Apple, which was well worth it, we get Voice 
> Over coming to the Apple Watch.  As soon as it is released, I'll be getting 
> the sports model as I have no time keeping device and I for some reason do 
> not like blind talking watches and for the braille watches, dog hair seems to 
> destroy the watch as my guide dog malts like crazy.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Cd rippers for mac.

[Lorie McCloud]

I would also like to know the answer to this question.
My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud   

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> What other cd rippers are there out there for the mac?
> Itunes ofcourse but i'd  appreciate others too.
> I have the audiobook builder but its to complicated for my small brain_).
> /A
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So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi.

A few days ago, I found out that Voice Over is on the Apple watch.  So after 
all that fuss that I made to Apple, which was well worth it, we get Voice Over 
coming to the Apple Watch.  As soon as it is released, I'll be getting the 
sports model as I have no time keeping device and I for some reason do not like 
blind talking watches and for the braille watches, dog hair seems to destroy 
the watch as my guide dog malts like crazy.

Kawal.

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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Eugenia Firth]

If I remember right, the Macintosh command to check your downloads is option 
command L, and then you press The escape key to get out of it.
Gigi

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> On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Pressing vo+a will read from your cursor position. Safari does not really 
> give any indication that a fileis downloading, you will need to go to the 
> toolbar if it's enabled, and check the download status there.
> Original message:
>> Hello all:
>> I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
>> pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
>> however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.
> 
>> First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless 
>> the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back 
>> up from there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key 
>> was taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h 
>> twice) but there’s not a key. Can I assign one?
> 
>> 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like 
>> to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
>> 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
>> that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
>> times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
>> file. Is there a way for notifications?
>> 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but 
>> I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things 
>> where sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
> 
>> TIA.
> 
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Re: Safari on the Mac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have had similar problems with HSBC verified by Visa website.  When I last 
used it, I don't know how, got Safari to navigate it and I also managed to do 
what I had to do on it.  I was mightily relieved as when I used it once before 
I spent 4 frustrating hours as I was determined to get what I had to do on it 
as although I have windows at work, no window machine at home as I have 
refrained to not put VM Fusion on my Mac computers as yet.

Kawal.
On 17 Mar 2015, at 20:29, David Griffith  wrote:

I have changed the subject line to reflect the direction the discussion is 
going.

My own observations on Safari is that it is my preferred browser on all 
platforms for general news and page reading largely because of the excellent 
Reader function.

However like others I find that there are serious obstacles to using Safari and 
Voiceover on many websites. Generally these problems appear related to sites 
involving financial security measures / password verification and after various 
problems experienced I reluctantly have decided to revert to Windows for many 
task.

These include.
1. My  Nat West Bank site  which is unusable with Safari and Voiceover and 
dumps me out at unpredictable moments. Entering passwords on this site under 
Safari is also very confusing as there is no audible key echo, even a click.  
Whether this is a Safari or Voiceover problem I do not know but this log in 
section and other parts of the site works fine with both Firefox and IE with a 
range of Window Screen Readers so I suspect it may be a Voiceover issue.

2.  There are problems for me with the multiple shopping websites which use the 
UK Verified by Visa security password verification system for authorizing 
payments.
To be fair I have occasionally managed to get this to work on Safari but on too 
many occasions Voiceover does not recognize the edits boxes on the page, or 
even when it does it does not seem able to read out the message content asking 
for characters from your password.

On many occasions Voiceover does not give any feedback at all, even a click 
when attempting to enter text into these edit boxes which is confusing and has 
in the past resulted in me having to reset my password because of too many log 
in attempts.

This means that even if I do the first part of a shop on Safari I normally 
switch to Windows to complete the checkout of my trolley or basket to avoid 
experiencing these problems.

What would help would be a screen refresh or screen redraw function as 
available in Jaws or Window-Eyes as this resolves many focus issues on that 
platform but I am not sure that this is a technology available to Voiceover , 
at least I have never found it so it would be great if somebody disabused me of 
this.

I have reported these issues to Apple Accessibility and pointed out that in the 
UK at least we are talking about the most major web providers. I think Nat West 
is still the biggest online bank and all Nat West customers have to use 
Verified by Visa if they are to use major online stores like Tescos and 
Sainsburys.

Hopefully one day it will be sorted out.

David Griffithto in
.

of the 2015 19:50, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
> I found this with my electricity company. I couldn't subscribe to one of 
> their flat rate plans with Safari but could using Firefox under Windows.
> 
> On 17/03/2015 13:48, Phil Halton wrote:
>> I have been finding that safari fails quite a bit in certain websites where 
>> I try to make a purchase. I can think of three websites off-hand where I 
>> recently was kicked out using Safari. It just doesn’t work with Safari. Even 
>> my bank yells a bit when I log on with safari although it lets me in.
>> In these cases, I use internet explorer in a windows VM and problem solved.
>> 
>> I checked to see that safari had JAVA enabled, but beyond that I can’t think 
>> of what might be the problem. Maybe Safari just isn’t a main stream browser 
>> and can’t handle sophisticated websites.
>> I like using safari, but I can’t rely on it for all my internet browsing and 
>> need a backup like IE in windows. Too bad!
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I was trying to purchase Clean my mac yesterday.
>>> When i came to the payment method there was 3 unlabled radiobuttons to 
>>> select payment method.
>>> Very annoying to not be able to buy a mac program from my mac.
>>> I have to do this in linux instead.
>>> /A
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Cd rippers for mac.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
What other cd rippers are there out there for the mac?
Itunes ofcourse but i'd  appreciate others too.
I have the audiobook builder but its to complicated for my small brain_).
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Re: converting mp3 files on the mac

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks very much.
I got it.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
> On Mar 18, 2015, at 12:34 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Here you go
>  
> http://all2mp3.en.softonic.com/mac/download 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:15
> To: Macvisionaries
> Subject: converting mp3 files on the mac
>  
> Hi all,
> I had a program called All to mp3 on my older mac.
> I thought I’d backed it up but can’t find it anywhere.
> Can someone tell me where I can download this free program for my macbook air?
> I find it easier to convert things with this program rather than iTunes.
>  
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
> 
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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Mike and others. For the downloads thing, if I remember correctly, somebody 
posted an applescript that opens a dialog when a download is complete if they 
want to view it. I have this script somewhere but I can't remember the name off 
the top of my head.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Pressing vo+a will read from your cursor position. Safari does not really 
> give any indication that a fileis downloading, you will need to go to the 
> toolbar if it's enabled, and check the download status there.
> Original message:
>> Hello all:
>> I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
>> pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
>> however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.
> 
>> First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless 
>> the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back 
>> up from there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key 
>> was taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h 
>> twice) but there’s not a key. Can I assign one?
> 
>> 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like 
>> to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
>> 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
>> that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
>> times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
>> file. Is there a way for notifications?
>> 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but 
>> I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things 
>> where sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
> 
>> TIA.
> 
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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Littlefield, Tyler]

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Thanks all, really appreciate the help.
On 3/18/2015 4:53 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> Pressing vo+a will read from your cursor position. Safari does not 
> really give any indication that a fileis downloading, you will need
> to go to the toolbar if it's enabled, and check the download status
> there. Original message:
>> Hello all: I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in
>> class just to be able to pick up the skills with it. There are a
>> couple things that are bothering me, however which I’d like to
>> figure out if someone could help.
> 
>> First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to
>> work unless the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an
>> edit box (then go back up from there), but that’s not really the
>> best solution since the edit key was taken away. there is a way
>> to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) but there’s not a
>> key. Can I assign one?
> 
>> 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top,
>> but I’d like to read from the position where my cursor is. Is
>> this possible? 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it
>> doesn’t make any indication that it’s actually downloading. This
>> results in me clicking a link a couple times, assuming it’s
>> broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that file. Is
>> there a way for notifications? 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for
>> the messages. I like the timestamps, but I’d love to be able to
>> shut off the graphics and the weird group things where sometimes
>> it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
> 
>> TIA.
> 
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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Mike Arrigo]

Pressing vo+a will read from your cursor position. Safari does not 
really give any indication that a fileis downloading, you will need to 
go to the toolbar if it's enabled, and check the download status there.

Original message:

Hello all:
I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be 
able to pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are 
bothering me, however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.


First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work 
unless the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box 
(then go back up from there), but that’s not really the best solution 
since the edit key was taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit 
box in the help (vo+h twice) but there’s not a key. Can I assign one?


2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d 
like to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any 
indication that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking 
a link a couple times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I 
have 5 versions of that file. Is there a way for notifications?
4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, 
but I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group 
things where sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?



TIA.




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Re: Preview pane

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   thanks very much for this I have a track pad and don’t really get on 
well with it.  but I will check the settings just if needed thanks again.
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dionipher,
> 
> Here are my trackpad settings in System preferences:
> • Point&Click: Tap to click unchecked checkbox, Secondary click unchecked 
> checkbox, Look up unchecked checkbox, Three finger drag unchecked checkbox, 
> Tracking speed 33.3%.
> • Scroll & Zoom: Scroll direction: natural checked checkbox, Zoom in or out 
> checked checkbox, Smart zoom unchecked checkbox, Rotate checked checkbox.
> • More Gestures: Swipe between pages unchecked checkbox, Swipe between 
> full-screen apps unchecked checkbox, Notification Center unchecked checkbox, 
> Mission Control unchecked checkbox, App Exposé unchecked checkbox, Launchpad 
> unchecked checkbox, Show Desktop unchecked checkbox.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:25, dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hello anne, can you send again your trackpad preferences because i can seem 
>> to drag the slider up. 
>> thanks
>> dionipher
>>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 12:19, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ed,
>>> 
>>> Yes, by “bring the mouse” i do mean VO-Cmd-F5.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 Feb 2015, at 08:56, Edward Green  wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 Many thanks for posting this.
 
 Could I just check what you mean by ‘bring the mouse’? Do you mean VO 
 Command f5?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ed
> On 22 Feb 2015, at 07:51, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Stacey,
> 
> This has been discussed a great deal recently, but here are the 
> instructions once again.
> 
> Here’s how to disable the preview pane.
> 
> Put Mail into classic view by opening Mail preferences (Cmd-Comma) and 
> selecting Viewing in the toolbar then checking the Use classic layout 
> check box.
> Close Mail preferences and navigate to the messages table.
> Do not interact with the messages table but press VO-Down Arrow.
> You should be on a horizontal splitter.
> Make sure the Trackpad commander and Quick Nav are off.
> Bring the mouse.
> Press down on the bottom edge of the trackpad with one finger, and use 
> another finger to stroke the trackpad toward you.
> There should be nothing below the horizontal splitter the next time you 
> press VO-Down Arrow.
> 
> Sometimes it takes several attempts to get it right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Annoying problem with IMAP account in Apple Mail

[Edward Green]

Hi,

I’m having an annoying problem with an IMAP account in Apple Mail on a 2013 
MacBook Pro with retina display running Yosemite.

It used to work fine, but all of a sudden, it stopped sending and receiving 
messages.  What’s more, if I delete messages from a folder they appear to be 
gone, but when I close and restart Mail, they appear again.

There aren’t any obvious error messages that come up.  Removing and recreating 
the account from within Mail doesn’t work, but deleting the account.plist file 
from my library/mail folder and recreating the account gets it working again 
for a day or two, then the same thing happens.

Does anyone know how I can cure this problem permanently without having to 
delete the plist file and recreating the account? Alternatively, are there any 
other accessible mail apps for the Mac? The latest Outlook isn’t an option as I 
don’t have office 365.

I’m not having any problems with the account on other devices including other 
Macs.

Thanks,

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Re: Preview pane

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

thanks anne
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 7:01 pm, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dionipher,
> 
> Here are my trackpad settings in System preferences:
> • Point&Click: Tap to click unchecked checkbox, Secondary click unchecked 
> checkbox, Look up unchecked checkbox, Three finger drag unchecked checkbox, 
> Tracking speed 33.3%.
> • Scroll & Zoom: Scroll direction: natural checked checkbox, Zoom in or out 
> checked checkbox, Smart zoom unchecked checkbox, Rotate checked checkbox.
> • More Gestures: Swipe between pages unchecked checkbox, Swipe between 
> full-screen apps unchecked checkbox, Notification Center unchecked checkbox, 
> Mission Control unchecked checkbox, App Exposé unchecked checkbox, Launchpad 
> unchecked checkbox, Show Desktop unchecked checkbox.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:25, dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hello anne, can you send again your trackpad preferences because i can seem 
>> to drag the slider up. 
>> thanks
>> dionipher
>>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 12:19, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ed,
>>> 
>>> Yes, by “bring the mouse” i do mean VO-Cmd-F5.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 Feb 2015, at 08:56, Edward Green  wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 Many thanks for posting this.
 
 Could I just check what you mean by ‘bring the mouse’? Do you mean VO 
 Command f5?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ed
> On 22 Feb 2015, at 07:51, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Stacey,
> 
> This has been discussed a great deal recently, but here are the 
> instructions once again.
> 
> Here’s how to disable the preview pane.
> 
> Put Mail into classic view by opening Mail preferences (Cmd-Comma) and 
> selecting Viewing in the toolbar then checking the Use classic layout 
> check box.
> Close Mail preferences and navigate to the messages table.
> Do not interact with the messages table but press VO-Down Arrow.
> You should be on a horizontal splitter.
> Make sure the Trackpad commander and Quick Nav are off.
> Bring the mouse.
> Press down on the bottom edge of the trackpad with one finger, and use 
> another finger to stroke the trackpad toward you.
> There should be nothing below the horizontal splitter the next time you 
> press VO-Down Arrow.
> 
> Sometimes it takes several attempts to get it right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: Preview pane

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Dionipher,

Here are my trackpad settings in System preferences:
• Point&Click: Tap to click unchecked checkbox, Secondary click unchecked 
checkbox, Look up unchecked checkbox, Three finger drag unchecked checkbox, 
Tracking speed 33.3%.
• Scroll & Zoom: Scroll direction: natural checked checkbox, Zoom in or out 
checked checkbox, Smart zoom unchecked checkbox, Rotate checked checkbox.
• More Gestures: Swipe between pages unchecked checkbox, Swipe between 
full-screen apps unchecked checkbox, Notification Center unchecked checkbox, 
Mission Control unchecked checkbox, App Exposé unchecked checkbox, Launchpad 
unchecked checkbox, Show Desktop unchecked checkbox.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:25, dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> hello anne, can you send again your trackpad preferences because i can seem 
> to drag the slider up. 
> thanks
> dionipher
>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 12:19, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ed,
>> 
>> Yes, by “bring the mouse” i do mean VO-Cmd-F5.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 08:56, Edward Green  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anne,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for posting this.
>>> 
>>> Could I just check what you mean by ‘bring the mouse’? Do you mean VO 
>>> Command f5?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ed
 On 22 Feb 2015, at 07:51, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Stacey,
 
 This has been discussed a great deal recently, but here are the 
 instructions once again.
 
 Here’s how to disable the preview pane.
 
 Put Mail into classic view by opening Mail preferences (Cmd-Comma) and 
 selecting Viewing in the toolbar then checking the Use classic layout 
 check box.
 Close Mail preferences and navigate to the messages table.
 Do not interact with the messages table but press VO-Down Arrow.
 You should be on a horizontal splitter.
 Make sure the Trackpad commander and Quick Nav are off.
 Bring the mouse.
 Press down on the bottom edge of the trackpad with one finger, and use 
 another finger to stroke the trackpad toward you.
 There should be nothing below the horizontal splitter the next time you 
 press VO-Down Arrow.
 
 Sometimes it takes several attempts to get it right.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Tyler. For your query about Facebook, I find that if you set Safari to act 
like a different browser, the website plays a lot nicer. To do this, in the 
advanced pain in Safari preferences, make the develop menu visible in the menu 
bar, then in the develop menu, select user agent. I find the site works better 
when it's set to behave like the latest version of Firefox for Mac. Also, if 
you want an easier way of sharing statuses, I find that the share menu in Text 
Edit does what I want it to do.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
> pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
> however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.
> 
> First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless 
> the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back up 
> from there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key was 
> taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) 
> but there’s not a key. Can I assign one?
> 
> 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like 
> to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
> 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
> that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
> times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
> file. Is there a way for notifications?
> 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but 
> I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things where 
> sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
> 
> TIA.
> 
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RE: converting mp3 files on the mac

[george b]

Here you go

 

http://all2mp3.en.softonic.com/mac/download



 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:15
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: converting mp3 files on the mac

 

Hi all,

I had a program called All to mp3 on my older mac.

I thought I’d backed it up but can’t find it anywhere.

Can someone tell me where I can download this free program for my macbook air?

I find it easier to convert things with this program rather than iTunes.

 

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.



mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

 

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converting mp3 files on the mac

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi all,
I had a program called All to mp3 on my older mac.
I thought I’d backed it up but can’t find it anywhere.
Can someone tell me where I can download this free program for my macbook air?
I find it easier to convert things with this program rather than iTunes.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 

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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

when reading from cursor and beyond VO A
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 5:21 pm, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
> pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
> however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.
> 
> First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless 
> the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back up 
> from there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key was 
> taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) 
> but there’s not a key. Can I assign one?
> 
> 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like 
> to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
> 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
> that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
> times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
> file. Is there a way for notifications?
> 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but 
> I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things where 
> sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
> 
> TIA.
> 
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Re: various OS X questions with voiceover

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i can answer some of your questions, first, going to the edit field on 
facebook, turn on your quick nav on then press e for edit boxes, you can use 
this in every web when going to edit boxes.

there's also a lot of shortcut keys for facebook,, 
turn off your quick nav on, then press p for your status, l to like, s to 
share, c to comment, j to go to the next status,, then k to go backward.

about the downloading, i usually go to the downloads folder then if i see the 
file that i am downloading, it tells like and extension of the file. dot 
downloading.
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 5:21 pm, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
> pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
> however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.
> 
> First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless 
> the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back up 
> from there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key was 
> taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) 
> but there’s not a key. Can I assign one?
> 
> 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like 
> to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
> 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
> that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
> times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
> file. Is there a way for notifications?
> 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but 
> I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things where 
> sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?
> 
> TIA.
> 
> 
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various OS X questions with voiceover

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hello all:
I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to 
pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, 
however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help.

First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless the 
content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back up from 
there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key was taken 
away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) but 
there’s not a key. Can I assign one?

2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like to 
read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible?
3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication 
that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple 
times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that 
file. Is there a way for notifications?
4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but I’d 
love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things where 
sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible?

TIA.


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Re: I don't even begin to understand the first thing about pages

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi there,
Turned out that 1, i had the icon in the dock pointing at an old version of 
Pages from 2012. 2, in that version i chose the blank layout document instead 
of the word processing document. All fixed now and the right version of Pages 
namely the latest one is what the dock icon points to.
/Krister

> 18 mar 2015 kl. 15:45 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Further to Erik’s comments, the Blank template that you’ve chosen is the 
> correct one.  In Pages Preferences, you can set Pages to automatically have 
> this as your default document upon startup.  For me, at least, when starting 
> Pages, when the blank document comes up, VO is focused on the Body Text of 
> the document and one can simply start typing.  If that’s not the case for 
> you, then you can interact with the Document Layout area where you’ll note 
> Header and Footer text fields and a Body text field.  The Body one is the 
> field you wish to use.  You can use VO-j to jump over to the Formatter area 
> if you need to set formatting options.  Simple formatting like Bold, Italics 
> etc can be easily set using keyboard shortcuts like cmd-b or cmd-i.  If your 
> version is not allowing you into the Body text area, then you’ve either a 
> very old version of Pages or it is just not focused on the necessary area of 
> the document.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 18, 2015, at 08:14, erik burggraaf  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Krister.
> 
> First, let me say that you can export to word formats in textedit  just fine. 
>  To do this,  make a new rich text document using command N followed by 
> command shift T.
> When you save your file, simply add the .doc or .docx extension and it will 
> open properly in word.
> 
> If you stull need the extra features of pages or you just want the piece of 
> mind of using a pages to word converter, here are some tips that may help you.
> 
> Pages is very cluttered.  To get to an edit box where you can compose a 
> document, you have to interact with first the layout area, and then the body 
> field.
> 
> To make formatting changes, you then have to stop interacting with 
> everything, go over to the formatter group, and interact with that.  It's 
> very tedious.  Fortunately, all of the formattting keyboard commands you know 
> and love from pages are still here.
> 
> I hope this helps get you started.
> 
> 
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Ok, i am now trying to use Pages to write an article that someone wants by 
>> sunday and the reason for me using Pages is simply that it can convert to 
>> word format in some way. I have a problem though: I want to start from a 
>> blank page template, i don’t want place holders or graphics that i don’t see 
>> and thus can’t erase or something like that. However when i try doing this, 
>> that is start with a blank page template what i get is a blank page, 
>> logically enough, but that means nowhere to place text nor anything. In 
>> other word processors, when i want a blank page template an empty page with 
>> an edit box for typing comes up, not so in Pages, the whole page is blank 
>> and not even a text box is there for typing into. My probably stupid 
>> question now is how on earth do i get a page that’s blank with an edit box 
>> to type into like in other word processors so that i can start typing right 
>> away rather than constructing my own layout, something that’s way way way 
>> way over my stupid head?
>> Thanks,
>> /Krister
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RE: vpn service

[wayne coles]

hello and if what you say is true then I would be very intrested just because 
of the sport that I mis in the uk like cricket on the radio and rugby and 
that’s just the radio tv is another matter so again thanks

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vpn service

Hi Wayne, I don't know that much about vpn. But from what I've heardit
hides your ip address and you can tell it what country you live in.
Then you always look like you're surfing from whatervercountry you
picked. It doesn't have to be your actual location. So, with a vpn you
probably could watch UK tv.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 3/17/15, wayne coles  wrote:
> hello could you tell us more about it only I live here in the us but I came
> from the uk and would love to watch uk tv is that possible and if yes how
> can it be done thanks in advance
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:34 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: vpn service
>
> Personally, I prefer Hide my ass.
>
> I'm serious.  That's literally what it's called.
>
> http://www.hidemyass.com
>
> Chris.
>
> ---
> Check out my web site at:
> http://www.clgproductions.net
> - Original Message -
> From: "jeff `greene" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:16 AM
> Subject: vpn service
>
>
>> Hi, I was just looking at cult of mac deals and they have a couple of
>> offers for vpn services. One is $39 for lifetime membership and it
>> says it works on mac, windows and ios. Just wondering if anybody on
>> the list has used vpn? How easy is it to setup?
>> Thanks, Jeff
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Re: I don't even begin to understand the first thing about pages

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Further to Erik’s comments, the Blank template that you’ve chosen is the 
correct one.  In Pages Preferences, you can set Pages to automatically have 
this as your default document upon startup.  For me, at least, when starting 
Pages, when the blank document comes up, VO is focused on the Body Text of the 
document and one can simply start typing.  If that’s not the case for you, then 
you can interact with the Document Layout area where you’ll note Header and 
Footer text fields and a Body text field.  The Body one is the field you wish 
to use.  You can use VO-j to jump over to the Formatter area if you need to set 
formatting options.  Simple formatting like Bold, Italics etc can be easily set 
using keyboard shortcuts like cmd-b or cmd-i.  If your version is not allowing 
you into the Body text area, then you’ve either a very old version of Pages or 
it is just not focused on the necessary area of the document.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 18, 2015, at 08:14, erik burggraaf  wrote:

Hi Krister.

First, let me say that you can export to word formats in textedit  just fine.  
To do this,  make a new rich text document using command N followed by command 
shift T.
When you save your file, simply add the .doc or .docx extension and it will 
open properly in word.

If you stull need the extra features of pages or you just want the piece of 
mind of using a pages to word converter, here are some tips that may help you.

Pages is very cluttered.  To get to an edit box where you can compose a 
document, you have to interact with first the layout area, and then the body 
field.

To make formatting changes, you then have to stop interacting with everything, 
go over to the formatter group, and interact with that.  It's very tedious.  
Fortunately, all of the formattting keyboard commands you know and love from 
pages are still here.

I hope this helps get you started.



Erik Burggraaf



On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote:

> Hi,
> Ok, i am now trying to use Pages to write an article that someone wants by 
> sunday and the reason for me using Pages is simply that it can convert to 
> word format in some way. I have a problem though: I want to start from a 
> blank page template, i don’t want place holders or graphics that i don’t see 
> and thus can’t erase or something like that. However when i try doing this, 
> that is start with a blank page template what i get is a blank page, 
> logically enough, but that means nowhere to place text nor anything. In other 
> word processors, when i want a blank page template an empty page with an edit 
> box for typing comes up, not so in Pages, the whole page is blank and not 
> even a text box is there for typing into. My probably stupid question now is 
> how on earth do i get a page that’s blank with an edit box to type into like 
> in other word processors so that i can start typing right away rather than 
> constructing my own layout, something that’s way way way way over my stupid 
> head?
> Thanks,
> /Krister
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Re: I don't even begin to understand the first thing about pages

[erik burggraaf]

Hi Krister.

First, let me say that you can export to word formats in textedit  just fine.  
To do this,  make a new rich text document using command N followed by command 
shift T.
When you save your file, simply add the .doc or .docx extension and it will 
open properly in word.

If you stull need the extra features of pages or you just want the piece of 
mind of using a pages to word converter, here are some tips that may help you.

Pages is very cluttered.  To get to an edit box where you can compose a 
document, you have to interact with first the layout area, and then the body 
field.

To make formatting changes, you then have to stop interacting with everything, 
go over to the formatter group, and interact with that.  It's very tedious.  
Fortunately, all of the formattting keyboard commands you know and love from 
pages are still here.

I hope this helps get you started.



Erik Burggraaf



On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> Hi,
> Ok, i am now trying to use Pages to write an article that someone wants by 
> sunday and the reason for me using Pages is simply that it can convert to 
> word format in some way. I have a problem though: I want to start from a 
> blank page template, i don’t want place holders or graphics that i don’t see 
> and thus can’t erase or something like that. However when i try doing this, 
> that is start with a blank page template what i get is a blank page, 
> logically enough, but that means nowhere to place text nor anything. In other 
> word processors, when i want a blank page template an empty page with an edit 
> box for typing comes up, not so in Pages, the whole page is blank and not 
> even a text box is there for typing into. My probably stupid question now is 
> how on earth do i get a page that’s blank with an edit box to type into like 
> in other word processors so that i can start typing right away rather than 
> constructing my own layout, something that’s way way way way over my stupid 
> head?
> Thanks,
> /Krister
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Re: where to find my serial number of abbABBY fine reader pro that i bought to apps store?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

thanks a lot
On 18 Mar 2015, at 11:54 am, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> You will find it in the "about" under FineReader menu.  When you have opened 
> the app, do vo+m and then move once to the right to hear "FineReader" menu 
> and then down arrow and the first element is "about". Activate it and in the 
> window you will have amongst others your serial number.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 22:38, dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  can somebody help me again with this registration for ABBY fine reader 
>> pro, thanks
>> Dionipher
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I don't even begin to understand the first thing about pages

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Ok, i am now trying to use Pages to write an article that someone wants by 
sunday and the reason for me using Pages is simply that it can convert to word 
format in some way. I have a problem though: I want to start from a blank page 
template, i don’t want place holders or graphics that i don’t see and thus 
can’t erase or something like that. However when i try doing this, that is 
start with a blank page template what i get is a blank page, logically enough, 
but that means nowhere to place text nor anything. In other word processors, 
when i want a blank page template an empty page with an edit box for typing 
comes up, not so in Pages, the whole page is blank and not even a text box is 
there for typing into. My probably stupid question now is how on earth do i get 
a page that’s blank with an edit box to type into like in other word processors 
so that i can start typing right away rather than constructing my own layout, 
something that’s way way way way over my stupid head?
Thanks,
/Krister

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Re: where to find my serial number of abbABBY fine reader pro that i bought to apps store?

[Andrew Lamanche]

You will find it in the "about" under FineReader menu.  When you have opened 
the app, do vo+m and then move once to the right to hear "FineReader" menu and 
then down arrow and the first element is "about". Activate it and in the window 
you will have amongst others your serial number.

Andrew
> On 17 Mar 2015, at 22:38, dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>   can somebody help me again with this registration for ABBY fine reader 
> pro, thanks
> Dionipher
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Re: Safari on the Mac

[David Griffith]

The division between responsibilities between screen readers and 
application access is always an issue I agree. Sometimes it is clear. 
Microsoft latest Word is an obvious example where they have clearly 
neglected to allow Voiceover to hook into the edit areas.


I think the issue about Safari and Voiceover is more difficult. Apple 
has full responsibility for both applications.  Macs are still a 
minority platform for most website developers and I think few 
corporations will invest in multiple web architectures to suit minority 
platforms. The exception is the existence of mobile site versions of web 
pages which sometimes offer better access. I think it is highly unlikely 
though that web site providers will invest in Mac specific versions of 
their web sites, especially if sighted Mac users not using Voiceover 
will apparently cope OK.


In this situation I believe that the only realistic hope is that the 
access team at Apple is somehow going to get Voiceover to match the 
screen reading access on these more difficult financial sites that the 
Windows Screen Readers are currently achieving.


I did point out to Accessibility at Apple that these sites were the 
major online providers serving millions of customers in total so 
hopefully they will respond.


Apparently these sites work well if your bank does not require Verified 
by Visa to authorize online purchases so this seems to be one of the 
major stumbling blocks. The other problem is demonstrating the problem 
as of course these verification screens are behind password protected 
areas so you cannot simply send a link to demonstrate the issue.


I have not actually tried one of these for a couple of months so will 
have to give it a check later just to make sure that nothing magical has 
happened recently.  I am a little nervous of this as I have had to end 
up resetting bank passwords etc in the past which is areal pain but if 
some improvement has occurred I will update.


David Griffith

On 18/03/2015 01:41, Colin Matthews wrote:

Hi!
OK I’m no expert but also could some of these problems be that sites do not 
code properly for Safari on the Mac I always hear sites talking about jaws 
window eyes and NVDA and sometimes IDivices but no mention of Mac and voice 
over!
This is on UK sites and of course they say their accessible compliant!
So maybe some are out of Apples hands!
Colin

On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:10, Joseph  wrote:


Hello,
I know. While I’m sure that things sometimes get corrected, still at other 
times, I kind of have my doubts. But here’s hoping that Apple listens and will 
in time correct things. I wish they would demonstrate a little more willing to 
the consumer that they are really trying to correct accessibility concerns.


On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:06 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

I did so last year but so far to no affect.

DavidGriffith

On 17/03/2015 20:34, Joseph wrote:

Hello,
Please express this to Apple Accessibility.

accessibil...@apple.com




On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

I have changed the subject line to reflect the direction the discussion is 
going.

My own observations on Safari is that it is my preferred browser on all 
platforms for general news and page reading largely because of the excellent 
Reader function.

However like others I find that there are serious obstacles to using Safari and 
Voiceover on many websites. Generally these problems appear related to sites 
involving financial security measures / password verification and after various 
problems experienced I reluctantly have decided to revert to Windows for many 
task.

These include.
1. My  Nat West Bank site  which is unusable with Safari and Voiceover and 
dumps me out at unpredictable moments. Entering passwords on this site under 
Safari is also very confusing as there is no audible key echo, even a click.  
Whether this is a Safari or Voiceover problem I do not know but this log in 
section and other parts of the site works fine with both Firefox and IE with a 
range of Window Screen Readers so I suspect it may be a Voiceover issue.

2.  There are problems for me with the multiple shopping websites which use the 
UK Verified by Visa security password verification system for authorising 
payments.
To be fair I have occasionally managed to get this to work on Safari but on too 
many occasions Voiceover does not recognise the edits boxes on the page, or 
even when it does it does not seem able to read out the message content asking 
for characters from your password.

On many occasions Voiceover does not give any feedback at all, even a click 
when attempting to enter text into these edit boxes which is confusing and has 
in the past resulted in me having to reset my password because of too many log 
in attempts.

This means that even if I do the first part of a shop on Safari I normally 
switch to Windows to complete the checkout of my trolley or basket to avoid 
experiencing these problems.

Re: Cleanmymac

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The safari problems we have with voiceover should definetly be reported to 
accessibil...@apple.com so that they are aware of the problem.
/A
> 17 mar 2015 kl. 15:28 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A few comments here for what it’s worth.  In Anders case, I don’t believe 
> that it had much to do with Safari’s ability to handle the web-page, it’s 
> more likely the web developers ability to label buttons and adhere to 
> accessibility guidelines in their design and coding.  With respect to Safari 
> being a mainstream browser and its ability to handle complicated web-sites, I 
> believe that is an inaccurate statement.  I would venture to say that if you 
> were a sighted user, those sites would most likely work just fine.  In many 
> cases, it appears to the the combination of the browser, the specific 
> plugins, and their ability to work in conjunction with VO.  Going back to 
> site design and coding, there are sites who specifically optimized their site 
> for IE, in essence, attempting to force users to employ IE, rather a narrow 
> and lazy way to code in my opinion.  Sites should be designed with all users 
> in mind, not just those who happen to run Windows and some version of IE.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 17, 2015, at 07:48, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I have been finding that safari fails quite a bit in certain websites where I 
> try to make a purchase. I can think of three websites off-hand where I 
> recently was kicked out using Safari. It just doesn’t work with Safari. Even 
> my bank yells a bit when I log on with safari although it lets me in.
> In these cases, I use internet explorer in a windows VM and problem solved.
> 
> I checked to see that safari had JAVA enabled, but beyond that I can’t think 
> of what might be the problem. Maybe Safari just isn’t a main stream browser 
> and can’t handle sophisticated websites.
> I like using safari, but I can’t rely on it for all my internet browsing and 
> need a backup like IE in windows. Too bad!
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I was trying to purchase Clean my mac yesterday.
>> When i came to the payment method there was 3 unlabled radiobuttons to 
>> select payment method.
>> Very annoying to not be able to buy a mac program from my mac.
>> I have to do this in linux instead.
>> /A
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iMazing

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Hi all,
I'm seriously considering checking out iMazing. I tried and bought Waltr 
which does a similar thing but is currently very slow at transferring 
large items including a folder of files. This is I hope constructive 
criticism.


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