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Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yes, reverse it.

For extra points, defragment and zero the Windows partition, and use bzip2 to 
compress the output of dd.  That makes an even smaller file.

It’s a shame that all this can’t be easily automated, although to be fair Apple 
has taken great care of Apple’s own side of the fence.  And when you come right 
down to it, OS X (and Unix, generally) file systems are easier to duplicate 
than Windows.  Bloody MickeySoft.

Your partition tables, including errors, would also be duplicated.  I’d throw 
it all out.

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OSX 10.11 releases September 30Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Singing Sparrow
apple has set september 30 for the release of OSX 10.11 the gold master 
is out now!


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Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Joe Quinn
Then how do you restore it? Reverse it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> well,
> if you use dd and you set the input file to be the first device for the HDD 
> in /dev (the root device for the drive), then *everything* should be copied 
> bit for bit. No missing data, no corruptions. In this case, your root drive 
> would probably be /dev/sda (with 1 thru x being the partitions in order).
> 
> here is what I use to backup my system: dd if=/dev/sda 
> of=/Volumes/Media/backups/macHD.img
> 
> that copies the entirety of the primary boot drive (and all its partitions, 
> boot records, etc.) into a single contiguous file. no muss, no fuss. I have 
> room on my 2 TB external for at least 1 months worth of backups at one per 
> week. Considering that the boot drive is only 256 GB, it leaves me a lot of 
> room for other things (including storing backups of documents, installation 
> files, and my talking book library. Not too shabby, eh?
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>> 
>> did i ask this before, i use dd, but then I'd still have same problem with 
>> the corrupt partition issue, right? forgive the question if I asked it 
>> before.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> well, here is how the drive imaging works with Disk utility.
>>> 
>>> you can create a hard disk image, partition it and then copy the relevant 
>>> files to it. mind you, this is not exactly a clone. I haven't tried this 
>>> particular method myself, so I am not sure if it would work.
>>> 
>>> However, if you dd the entire device, all information (including boot 
>>> record, partition map, drive allocation tables, volume bitmaps and 
>>> everything else is preserved as a bit for bit image. with a large enough 
>>> backup drive, you can store the entire image as a single file. This is the 
>>> method I use and it works 100% of the time. THe other method (creating a 
>>> disk image using DU) will not have the same results. you might miss some 
>>> things like the MBR, partition tables and a few other needed items. now, I 
>>> use dd as a matter of course simply because I don't have money to throw at 
>>> a backup program that may, or may not, be entirely accessible for the 
>>> totally blind user. it is also an included command line app that can be run 
>>> in terminal from the recovery partition. SInce I can run this recovery 
>>> partition from either a CD or a USB stick (properly configured), I don't 
>>> have to worry about anything on the system drive that might accidentally 
>>> get wiped (considering that I am wiping it anyway).
>>> 
>>> if you need more info on dd, you can read here: 
>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dd.1.html
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:
 
 So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and 
 then restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it 
 wouldn't copy everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) 
 I should just come in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition 
 tables.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image 
> file on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places 
> that have data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be 
> ignored (as a zero space allocation). THis generally only works if you 
> create a sparse image volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of 
> all the files inside the partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, 
> but it serves as a stopgap.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>> 
>> there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
>> anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last 
>>> time I used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings 
>>> directory. so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an 
>>> external drive as an image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 
>>> consecutive backups. THis way, I have the next most recent and the most 
>>> recent backups on hand should something be amiss.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
 
 
 Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and 
 rsync can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and 
 one of the names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
 
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn w

Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Eric Oyen
well,
if you use dd and you set the input file to be the first device for the HDD in 
/dev (the root device for the drive), then *everything* should be copied bit 
for bit. No missing data, no corruptions. In this case, your root drive would 
probably be /dev/sda (with 1 thru x being the partitions in order).

here is what I use to backup my system: dd if=/dev/sda 
of=/Volumes/Media/backups/macHD.img

that copies the entirety of the primary boot drive (and all its partitions, 
boot records, etc.) into a single contiguous file. no muss, no fuss. I have 
room on my 2 TB external for at least 1 months worth of backups at one per 
week. Considering that the boot drive is only 256 GB, it leaves me a lot of 
room for other things (including storing backups of documents, installation 
files, and my talking book library. Not too shabby, eh?

-eric

On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:

> did i ask this before, i use dd, but then I'd still have same problem with 
> the corrupt partition issue, right? forgive the question if I asked it before.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> well, here is how the drive imaging works with Disk utility.
>> 
>> you can create a hard disk image, partition it and then copy the relevant 
>> files to it. mind you, this is not exactly a clone. I haven't tried this 
>> particular method myself, so I am not sure if it would work.
>> 
>> However, if you dd the entire device, all information (including boot 
>> record, partition map, drive allocation tables, volume bitmaps and 
>> everything else is preserved as a bit for bit image. with a large enough 
>> backup drive, you can store the entire image as a single file. This is the 
>> method I use and it works 100% of the time. THe other method (creating a 
>> disk image using DU) will not have the same results. you might miss some 
>> things like the MBR, partition tables and a few other needed items. now, I 
>> use dd as a matter of course simply because I don't have money to throw at a 
>> backup program that may, or may not, be entirely accessible for the totally 
>> blind user. it is also an included command line app that can be run in 
>> terminal from the recovery partition. SInce I can run this recovery 
>> partition from either a CD or a USB stick (properly configured), I don't 
>> have to worry about anything on the system drive that might accidentally get 
>> wiped (considering that I am wiping it anyway).
>> 
>> if you need more info on dd, you can read here: 
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dd.1.html
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>> 
>>> So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and 
>>> then restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it 
>>> wouldn't copy everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) 
>>> I should just come in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition 
>>> tables.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
 
 that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image 
 file on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places 
 that have data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be 
 ignored (as a zero space allocation). THis generally only works if you 
 create a sparse image volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of all 
 the files inside the partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, but 
 it serves as a stopgap.
 
 -eric
 
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
> 
> there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
> anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last 
>> time I used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings 
>> directory. so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an external 
>> drive as an image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 
>> consecutive backups. THis way, I have the next most recent and the most 
>> recent backups on hand should something be amiss.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and 
>>> rsync can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and 
>>> one of the names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
>>> 
 On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn wrote:
 
 What are some good back up programs that will back up my Mac OS X 
 drive as well as the Boot Camp partition? I think I'm going to need 
 it. :-)
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
>>

Re: Question about bluetooth

2015-09-12 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
What about using hey Siri. Also some phones or perhaps BT systems have auto 
answer when paired, not ideal but useable 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
>  
> I have a quick question.
>  
> My grandmother just got a new car.  It's a 2015 Toyoda Corola.  Anyway, this 
> is the very very first vehicle that I've had the chance to ride in on a 
> regular basis that has bluetooth ability.  All the cars that both my mom and 
> grandmother have had before this didn't have bluetooth.
>  
> Anyway, we got my phone pared to her car with absolutely no problem.  
> Unfortunately, the controls on her dashboard are totally touch screen, so I 
> can't opperate the car stereo at all.  I can't even adjust the volume, as 
> even that! is all touch screen.  Sucks, but whatever.  My grandmother can do 
> that part for me.
>  
> Anyway, my grandmother is probably by far the most computer illiterate person 
> I've ever known, and honestly she doesn't even have the slightest desire to 
> learn.  If her car didn't have bluetooth, it would have served her just fine. 
>  She didn't special request it, as much as it just so happened to have it.  I 
> think most cars now adays come pretty standard with it.  Anyway, here's my 
> question.
>  
> On her radio console dashboard screen after first turning on her car, she has 
> an icon that says source.  If she touches on source, she then gets 3 options 
> provided my phone is connected, which it always normally will be.  She gets, 
> FM, A.M, and Audio.  Audio is basically what they're naming the bluetooth.  
> In other words, if she taps on source, then taps on Audio, then my phone 
> audio, be it Voiceover, be it music, whatever comes through her car speakers. 
>  It's really awesome.  Apple Music through her car stereo baby!  And you'd be 
> shocked if you've never heard Bluetooth audio in a car playing music.  The 
> sound is actually super crystal! clear.  Anyway, being my phone connects via 
> bluetooth automatically to her car when I get inside, this means that my 
> phone's internal speaker stops working since everything now is being routed 
> to bluetooth instead.  So, if she's got the FM radio going for instance, then 
> obviously, I can't hear Voiceover nor anything at all on my phone.
>  
> So, what happens if I get a phone call, or need to make! a call?  Yes, she 
> has the controls on her steering wheel to answer and hang up, as well as 
> voice command, but again, non techy.  She thinks in her words, I'll fowl up 
> the car where it won't even drive if I start pushing buttons.  Those are her 
> words, not mine.  I know, it's pathetic.  Anyway, point is, someone told me 
> that if I get a call, even if she's on the radio, she won't have to manually 
> switch the source over to bluetooth audio.  I'm told that the car should 
> automatically detect an incoming call, and switch the source over to 
> bluetooth audio without the need for she nor I to do anything.  Then, when 
> the call is disconnected, it'll then go back to the radio source.  I don't 
> think she even can! switch the source while she's driving.  I don't think 
> it'll letter.  I think it's a safety mechinism.  She has to be stopped, and 
> in park for it to work.  If she's in drive, reverse, or neutral it won't 
> work.  Well, in reverse, she has one a those camera things to show'er what's 
> behind her, so the screen totally goes off the menu at that point as it's 
> just then a viewfinder.  Anyway, sames goes with making a call.  Whether I 
> use Siri or manually use the phone app itself, once my outgoing call is 
> placed, will she have to then switch the source over, or will it 
> automatically stop her radio and pop me over to the bluetooth for the 
> duration of the call.
>  
> Sorry to  be so ignorant with this, but really, I've never delt with car 
> bluetooth until now.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Joe Quinn
did i ask this before, i use dd, but then I'd still have same problem with the 
corrupt partition issue, right? forgive the question if I asked it before.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> well, here is how the drive imaging works with Disk utility.
> 
> you can create a hard disk image, partition it and then copy the relevant 
> files to it. mind you, this is not exactly a clone. I haven't tried this 
> particular method myself, so I am not sure if it would work.
> 
> However, if you dd the entire device, all information (including boot record, 
> partition map, drive allocation tables, volume bitmaps and everything else is 
> preserved as a bit for bit image. with a large enough backup drive, you can 
> store the entire image as a single file. This is the method I use and it 
> works 100% of the time. THe other method (creating a disk image using DU) 
> will not have the same results. you might miss some things like the MBR, 
> partition tables and a few other needed items. now, I use dd as a matter of 
> course simply because I don't have money to throw at a backup program that 
> may, or may not, be entirely accessible for the totally blind user. it is 
> also an included command line app that can be run in terminal from the 
> recovery partition. SInce I can run this recovery partition from either a CD 
> or a USB stick (properly configured), I don't have to worry about anything on 
> the system drive that might accidentally get wiped (considering that I am 
> wiping it anyway).
> 
> if you need more info on dd, you can read here: 
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dd.1.html
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>> 
>> So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and then 
>> restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it wouldn't copy 
>> everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) I should just 
>> come in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition tables.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image 
>>> file on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places 
>>> that have data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be ignored 
>>> (as a zero space allocation). THis generally only works if you create a 
>>> sparse image volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of all the files 
>>> inside the partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, but it serves 
>>> as a stopgap.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
 
 there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
 anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last time 
> I used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings 
> directory. so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an external 
> drive as an image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 consecutive 
> backups. THis way, I have the next most recent and the most recent 
> backups on hand should something be amiss.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and rsync 
>> can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and one of 
>> the names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
>> 
>>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are some good back up programs that will back up my Mac OS X drive 
>>> as well as the Boot Camp partition? I think I'm going to need it. :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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3 D touch.

2015-09-12 Thread sadam . lists
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-iphone-news/apple-confirms-peek-and-pop-features-new-iphone-6s-will-be-accessible

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Re: TVOS Accessibility

2015-09-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi Jonathan.

Thanks for your reply.  I had a conversation with Apple today about it as I 
ordered my I phone 6S Plus.

Kawal.
On 12 Sep 2015, at 07:18, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

Hi Kawal, you'll still need a TV, because Apple TV is only a set-top box. As 
long as any TV you get has an HDMI port, you'll be fine.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 11/09/2015, at 8:34 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott.
> 
> I am very interested in the new Apple TV as I have no TV at the moment.  So 
> if I got a basic Free View TV (don't know if the US have Freeview TV) and got 
> an Apple TV the new one, would it work on the Freeview TV?  As I thought 
> yesterday Apple said that they had made a proper television.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 20:00, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I think we’re going to write an App for the device so we can use our service 
> as well in the same way.  Would be cool to have very high definition meetings 
> right on your large screen TV.:)
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, just looked at this page.  This is awesome!  I am really heartened that 
>> straight out of the box, the very very first introduction to TVOS already 
>> has Voiceover included, and can even be activated with no sighted help, just 
>> like it can on I O S, and on OSS, and frankly, WatchOS.  That is incredible! 
>>  I confess, I was ever so slightly concerned, not so much that accessibility 
>> wouldn't be there, nor developed, but to what extent more or less it would 
>> be.  The fact they directly mention about flicking and double tapping, as 
>> well as your rotor even working tells me that this is gonna be probably like 
>> a real glorified version of I O S.  Guies, think about what this could mean 
>> for us audio gurus!  Pandora on your TV, Apple Music on your TV, Skype and 
>> maybe even Facetime on your TV in combination with the remote, e-mail and 
>> web browsing, Facebook and Twitter!  Oh, my freaking Gawod? Ehh K, ehh 
>> kayyy, Periscope! from the TV!  Now! you got me thinking!  This could be a 
>> freaking mazing!
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Kevin Shaw
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; viph...@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:24 AM
>>> Subject: TVOS Accessibility
>>> 
>>> Apple’s page on TVOS accessibility. 
>>> 
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/tvos/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kevin
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Need To Get Shared Photo Folder From Google Drive To Photo App On MacBook Air

2015-09-12 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello List, 

I’m not sure if this is possible. I have a shared photo folder in Google Drive, 
but I would like to copy it to the photo app on my MacBook Air. Is this 
possible and what is the steps involved to complete this action? I can access 
this folder in Google Drive, but I would like to have the feature of showing 
the photos as a slide show. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
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Re: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, you'll have to let us know what you think!
Donna
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Ah,
> 
> I got it, so I think it is awesome and I already ordered a 6s plus
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 6S?
> 
> Well, that's certainly true.  I just wondered what the take-aways were from 
> thursday's event.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on it on 
>> the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any indication 
>> of how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
>>> developments?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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RE: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread george b
Ah,

I got it, so I think it is awesome and I already ordered a 6s plus

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Subject: Re: iPhone 6S?

Well, that's certainly true.  I just wondered what the take-aways were from 
thursday's event.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on it on 
> the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any indication of 
> how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
>> developments?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Eric Oyen
well, here is how the drive imaging works with Disk utility.

you can create a hard disk image, partition it and then copy the relevant files 
to it. mind you, this is not exactly a clone. I haven't tried this particular 
method myself, so I am not sure if it would work.

However, if you dd the entire device, all information (including boot record, 
partition map, drive allocation tables, volume bitmaps and everything else is 
preserved as a bit for bit image. with a large enough backup drive, you can 
store the entire image as a single file. This is the method I use and it works 
100% of the time. THe other method (creating a disk image using DU) will not 
have the same results. you might miss some things like the MBR, partition 
tables and a few other needed items. now, I use dd as a matter of course simply 
because I don't have money to throw at a backup program that may, or may not, 
be entirely accessible for the totally blind user. it is also an included 
command line app that can be run in terminal from the recovery partition. SInce 
I can run this recovery partition from either a CD or a USB stick (properly 
configured), I don't have to worry about anything on the system drive that 
might accidentally get wiped (considering that I am wiping it anyway).

if you need more info on dd, you can read here: 
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dd.1.html

-eric

On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:

> So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and then 
> restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it wouldn't copy 
> everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) I should just 
> come in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition tables.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image file 
>> on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places that have 
>> data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be ignored (as a zero 
>> space allocation). THis generally only works if you create a sparse image 
>> volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of all the files inside the 
>> partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, but it serves as a stopgap.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>> 
>>> there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
>>> anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
 
 I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last time 
 I used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings 
 directory. so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an external 
 drive as an image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 consecutive 
 backups. THis way, I have the next most recent and the most recent backups 
 on hand should something be amiss.
 
 -eric
 
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
> 
> 
> Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and rsync 
> can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and one of 
> the names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
> 
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn wrote:
>> 
>> What are some good back up programs that will back up my Mac OS X drive 
>> as well as the Boot Camp partition? I think I'm going to need it. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Nice write-up Alex.  thanks!  I'd been thinking maybe I'd wait till the 7 next 
year, but ...
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I wrote a summary of Apple's Wednesday media event for AppleVis, and the 
> first section talks all about the iPhone 6S. Here's the link:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-apple-watch-ipad-iphone-mac-os-x-news/recap-apples-hey-siri-event-september-2015
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 09:51, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to www.apple.com and iPhones and read all about it
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 06:33
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 6S?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
>> developments?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread Alex Hall
I wrote a summary of Apple's Wednesday media event for AppleVis, and the first 
section talks all about the iPhone 6S. Here's the link:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-apple-watch-ipad-iphone-mac-os-x-news/recap-apples-hey-siri-event-september-2015
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 09:51, george b  wrote:
> 
> Go to www.apple.com and iPhones and read all about it
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 06:33
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 6S?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
> developments?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, that's certainly true.  I just wondered what the take-aways were from 
thursday's event.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on it on 
> the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any indication of 
> how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
>> developments?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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RE: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread george b
Go to www.apple.com and iPhones and read all about it

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Hi all,

Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
developments?
Cheers,
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Re: iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on it on 
the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any indication of 
how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.

> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
> developments?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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iPhone 6S?

2015-09-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any worthwhile 
developments?
Cheers,
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Re: urgent! Thorough and Good back up programs

2015-09-12 Thread Joe Quinn
So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and then 
restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it wouldn't copy 
everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) I should just come 
in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition tables.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image file 
> on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places that have 
> data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be ignored (as a zero 
> space allocation). THis generally only works if you create a sparse image 
> volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of all the files inside the 
> partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, but it serves as a stopgap.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>> 
>> there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
>> anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last time I 
>>> used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings directory. 
>>> so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an external drive as an 
>>> image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 consecutive backups. THis 
>>> way, I have the next most recent and the most recent backups on hand should 
>>> something be amiss.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
 
 
 Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and rsync 
 can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and one of the 
 names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
 
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn wrote:
> 
> What are some good back up programs that will back up my Mac OS X drive 
> as well as the Boot Camp partition? I think I'm going to need it. :-)
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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