Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Apple is Selling You a Phone, Not Civil Liberties
https://lawfareblog.com/apple-selling-you-phone-not-civil-liberties

> FBI and Justice Department officials, we think, can be forgiven if they’re a 
> touch cynical about all of Apple’s elaborate legal argumentation and suspect 
> that this all just masks what appears to be Apple’s genuine litigating 
> posture towards the government: You can’t make us do anything, because we are 
> immensely politically powerful, our CEO is on the phone with the President 
> regularly, we are too big and way too cool to fail, and people around the 
> world like us more than they like you. So what about that dead woman in 
> Louisiana? Sorry, but bringing her killer to justice—and preventing his or 
> her future violence—just isn’t as important as the data security of our 
> devices. And about protecting people from ISIS? We’ll help out if it’s not 
> too much trouble, but don’t ask us—ever—to do something that will make us 
> look bad to the ACLU, even if there’s a very good legal argument that you can.

Oof!  Nasty.  Very, very, very nasty.

It’s quite fun, this.  Don’t you find? :)

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Re: Entering passwords for 1 password on Mac

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I think it has something to do with the way VoiceOver handles cursor movement.  
It makes me very uncomfortable, because it will probably some day lead to my 
ending up with corrupted passwords in the database when I type and don’t check 
back, or fail to reverse correctly in my head, especially if merely reversing 
the passwords is not sufficient to detect character transpositions that 
sometimes happen with this bug.  Particularly bad when you’re entering your 
existing passwords.

You can work around it, for now, by copy-pasting your secrets in.  And as has 
been said, the Safari extension (and, incidentally, the iOS app) don’t have 
this issue.

Why the sudden interest in password managers around here, anyway? :)

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Re: iPad settings navigation

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Well, it definitely used to work in the past.  Some regression or other, then.  
Anyway, as of very recently, I have no iPad.  iPhone 6S Plus is big enough for 
me.  Even my iPod has gone now; the battery in the 6S Plus is really good.

Strange, how times change …

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Re: iPad settings navigation

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
On my Ipad mini i have the same problem as Chris describes.
I use to navigate by heading as it seems that the setting you activate has a 
heading with its name.
/A
> On 09 Mar 2016, at 20:22, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Weird.  When I had an iPad, I was sure what you described (jumping to the 
> right side of Settings and landing on the first item when the left item was 
> chosen) was the default behaviour.  Maybe it’s just iOS bugs or something.
> 
> Anyway, try containers.  See if navigating by containers does what you need.  
> Might be you need to enable it in the rotor.
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Re: Entering passwords for 1 password on Mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

This has been a problem for a while now, and I've reported it to AgileBits.  
They promised to fix it but the latest upgrade has not fixed this problem of 
passwords appearing backwards - even worse - half of the password will appear 
backwards and then the other half is also backwards making it difficult to work 
out what it was in the beginning.  For me, it doesn't affect actually using 
1password on a webpage when I issue command to fill in password but I still 
want to be able to check what the password is should I forget it.  Please 
report to AgileBitts - they are very receptive, and it helps if more people 
make a bit of a fuss.

Andrew
> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:08, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> I am using VoiceOver to run 1 password 5 latest version on El Capitan latest 
> version on my iMac. 
> 
> If I invent a password for a logon , say “dog21” then if I type “dog21” in 
> the password field in the detail table for my new logon it displays as 
> “12god”. To get it set to “dog21” I have to type “12god” into the password 
> field. 
> 
> Any ideas on why this should be? It is simple enough if the password is 
> short, but bad news if the password is long. Note that all other fields in 
> the detail for my new logon work correctly. 
> 
> Best regards….
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
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Re: iBooks issue

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Gary,

VO-s and VO-p both work for me, as do the commands for next sentence and next 
paragraph. One thing I just checked, my mouse pointer is sitting on my desktop, 
so have you got your mouse pointer following your VO Cursor and keyboard focus? 
If so, try setting the mouse pointer to ignore the other cursors. I always have 
this setting as I find that the mouse can destabilise VoiceOver.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 10 Mar 2016, at 18:15, Gary  wrote:
> 
> How did you get VO to read a sentence or paragraph?  I tried VO + S, and VO + 
> P, and neither worked for me.
> Gary
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Like you, I can read with iBooks on my Mac with no trouble. However, a 
>> couple of things worth noting:
>> Having pressed VO-Space on a book title, I often have to turn VoiceOver off 
>> and back on again to be able to navigate;
>> The text area is to the right of the Previous Page button and it always goes 
>> busy for a short while before I can interact with it and read the book;
>> Quick Nav does not work in iBooks.
>> 
>> I can read by character, word, line, sentence or paragraph, but not by page. 
>> Read All works fine.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, but I'm surprised.  I 
>>> agree that the IOS app is much better, but on my Mac iBooks works 
>>> reasonably well.  At least mostly.  The interface is kind of clunky, and I 
>>> get more busy messages than I would like, but I have no problem reading 
>>> book content.  I can read either by line, or just use VO-A to read 
>>> continuously.  Odd that my experience would be different from that of so 
>>> many of you.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 Gary,
  
 I tried, just as you, to use IBooks on the mac a while back, as I was told 
 it worked really well.  There is a possibility that in Yosemite, it did.  
 I confess that I never tried it prior to El Capitan.  I found almost 
 identically the same results as you.  I could read a majority of the 
 interface of the app, but the book content itself, regardless the book 
 loaded, wouldn't read hardly at all.
  
 I should add that this isn't the case on I O S.  On I O S, it works 
 beautifully.  I did report this to Apple, but I never really followed up 
 with them about it, as reading IBooks from the mac isn't really something 
 I'd normally wish to do.  I'd prefer to just use my phone, or IPad and do 
 it.  That however said, I definitely can confirm that I am  able to 
 reproduce your issues.
  
 Chris.
  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Gary 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:10 AM
> Subject: Re: iBooks issue
> 
> I recently installed El Capitan and hadn’t used iBooks yet, but tried it 
> just now.
> When I opened iBooks, I went to the book shelf table with my list of 
> books and interacted with it.  I didn’t see another window/table with the 
> contents, so I double-click on my book, to open it.  A window opened, but 
> VO only dinged when I tried to move around.  I had to turn VO off and on 
> in order to read the book.  If I interacted with the scroll area, I could 
> only read my book a line at a time, but if I didn’t interact with it, VO 
> would read all the text continuously.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Juan Hernandez > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I wanted to know if people are having issues with iBooks?  When I open a 
>> book, I can’t seem to read it.  I place focus on the text, and interact 
>> with it.  but it makes iBooks go busy, or even restart/ lockup some.
>> 
>> I’m fully updated on my ox x 10.11.
>> 
>> If anyone has any ideas I’d really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Juan
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Re: Entering passwords for 1 password on Mac

[E.T.]

   Latest version of 1Password is 6.x. I have not tried this but unhide 
passwords before you type one in.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/10/2016 9:08 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I am using VoiceOver to run 1 password 5 latest version on El Capitan latest 
version on my iMac.

If I invent a password for a logon , say “dog21” then if I type “dog21” in the 
password field in the detail table for my new logon it displays as “12god”. To 
get it set to “dog21” I have to type “12god” into the password field.

Any ideas on why this should be? It is simple enough if the password is short, 
but bad news if the password is long. Note that all other fields in the detail 
for my new logon work correctly.

Best regards….

Paul Hopewell



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Re: can't post on my page

[Vaughn Brown]

Ha,ha,ha... I'm going to contact my web designer and see if he can help.
Vaughn


On 3/10/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> No need to apologize.  I just wanted to make sure we were on the same... no
>
> pun intended, page.  LOL!
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vaughn Brown" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: can't post on my page
>
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I am sorry for that. I am talking about the Facebook page. I hope that
>> clears it up. Basically, I managed to fix that posting issue but it
>> says reached zero audience".
>> Thank you folks.
>> Vaughn
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
>>> Can't post on your page... ok, that's a bit vague.  Are you referring to
>>> Facebook pages?  Google Plus pages? Twitter pages? or what exactly?  No
>>> offense whatsoever intended.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Vaughn Brown" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:25 PM
>>> Subject: can't post on my page
>>>
>>>
 Hi folks,

 I am building a page for my music business. I added a profile picture.
 What I am having great difficulty with is solving the problem of not
 being able to update my status on the page. There is no "what's on
 your mind" or any field to post whatsoever. I looked at the settings
 but cannot sem to find the one I need. I even tried some research but
 came up empty handed.

 Thank you for your insight.
 Vaughn

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Re: iBooks issue

[Gary]

How did you get VO to read a sentence or paragraph?  I tried VO + S, and VO + 
P, and neither worked for me.
Gary

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Like you, I can read with iBooks on my Mac with no trouble. However, a couple 
> of things worth noting:
> Having pressed VO-Space on a book title, I often have to turn VoiceOver off 
> and back on again to be able to navigate;
> The text area is to the right of the Previous Page button and it always goes 
> busy for a short while before I can interact with it and read the book;
> Quick Nav does not work in iBooks.
> 
> I can read by character, word, line, sentence or paragraph, but not by page. 
> Read All works fine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, but I'm surprised.  I 
>> agree that the IOS app is much better, but on my Mac iBooks works reasonably 
>> well.  At least mostly.  The interface is kind of clunky, and I get more 
>> busy messages than I would like, but I have no problem reading book content. 
>>  I can read either by line, or just use VO-A to read continuously.  Odd that 
>> my experience would be different from that of so many of you.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>>  
>>> I tried, just as you, to use IBooks on the mac a while back, as I was told 
>>> it worked really well.  There is a possibility that in Yosemite, it did.  I 
>>> confess that I never tried it prior to El Capitan.  I found almost 
>>> identically the same results as you.  I could read a majority of the 
>>> interface of the app, but the book content itself, regardless the book 
>>> loaded, wouldn't read hardly at all.
>>>  
>>> I should add that this isn't the case on I O S.  On I O S, it works 
>>> beautifully.  I did report this to Apple, but I never really followed up 
>>> with them about it, as reading IBooks from the mac isn't really something 
>>> I'd normally wish to do.  I'd prefer to just use my phone, or IPad and do 
>>> it.  That however said, I definitely can confirm that I am  able to 
>>> reproduce your issues.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:10 AM
 Subject: Re: iBooks issue
 
 I recently installed El Capitan and hadn’t used iBooks yet, but tried it 
 just now.
 When I opened iBooks, I went to the book shelf table with my list of books 
 and interacted with it.  I didn’t see another window/table with the 
 contents, so I double-click on my book, to open it.  A window opened, but 
 VO only dinged when I tried to move around.  I had to turn VO off and on 
 in order to read the book.  If I interacted with the scroll area, I could 
 only read my book a line at a time, but if I didn’t interact with it, VO 
 would read all the text continuously.
 
 Gary
 
 
 
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Juan Hernandez  > wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I wanted to know if people are having issues with iBooks?  When I open a 
> book, I can’t seem to read it.  I place focus on the text, and interact 
> with it.  but it makes iBooks go busy, or even restart/ lockup some.
> 
> I’m fully updated on my ox x 10.11.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas I’d really appreciate it.
> 
> Best
> 
> Juan
> Juan Hernandez
> Email:  juanhernande...@gmail.com 
> Mobile:  (619) 750-9431
> Twitter:  https://www.twitter.com/blindwiz 
> 
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Entering passwords for 1 password on Mac

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am using VoiceOver to run 1 password 5 latest version on El Capitan latest 
version on my iMac. 

If I invent a password for a logon , say “dog21” then if I type “dog21” in the 
password field in the detail table for my new logon it displays as “12god”. To 
get it set to “dog21” I have to type “12god” into the password field. 

Any ideas on why this should be? It is simple enough if the password is short, 
but bad news if the password is long. Note that all other fields in the detail 
for my new logon work correctly. 

Best regards….

Paul Hopewell 

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Xcode playgrounds

[Juan Hernandez]

Hello,

I am playing with playgrounds in xCode.

I rated a new playground, and gave it a name, and said it was to be a mac os x 
playground.

so I type the link of code println(“this is my first test.”)

I also went up to menu view, assistant editor, and then activated the show 
assistant editor option.

Then I quit interacting with the source code editor, then did vo+right and I 
think found the assistant editor.  I interacted with it, and I get two 
different issues:

1.  I find a copy of my code in that editor.
2.  It shows as empty.

What are the steps to use a playground to test code snippets in xCode 7.2?

Thanks in advanced.
 
Juan Hernandez
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Re: How do I remove icons from the dock?

[Basioli George]

open the doc with vo d
arrow to the item to remove
do a vo shift m
arrowdown to others and vo spacebar
now arrow down to remove from doc and vo spacebar

h t h
,d

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 7:36 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   You can also sort the Dock. Focus on an app, and while holding the Option 
> and Command keys, use left or right arrows to move. VO will speak what you 
> are next to. Drop the app where you like by releasing the two keys.
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> On 3/10/2016 7:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Awesome!  thank you, worked like a charm.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Easy as pie. Focus on the app,VO shift m, select Options, select Remove 
>>> from dock.
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 I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping. 
  I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the 
 app I want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: How do I remove icons from the dock?

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   Applevis. (smiles)

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On 3/10/2016 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Oh, that's handy!  How on earth did you figure that out? :)
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:36 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   You can also sort the Dock. Focus on an app, and while holding the Option 
and Command keys, use left or right arrows to move. VO will speak what you are 
next to. Drop the app where you like by releasing the two keys.

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Awesome!  thank you, worked like a charm.
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Easy as pie. Focus on the app,VO shift m, select Options, select Remove from 
dock.

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I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping.  
I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the app I 
want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
TIA,
Donna



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Re: iBooks issue

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Anne,

I don't use Quicknav, so I wouldn't have figured that out.  I have had the same 
experience you write about when clicking on a book title.  I have been able to 
move around by pages, but not in a way that is consistent.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Like you, I can read with iBooks on my Mac with no trouble. However, a couple 
> of things worth noting:
> Having pressed VO-Space on a book title, I often have to turn VoiceOver off 
> and back on again to be able to navigate;
> The text area is to the right of the Previous Page button and it always goes 
> busy for a short while before I can interact with it and read the book;
> Quick Nav does not work in iBooks.
> 
> I can read by character, word, line, sentence or paragraph, but not by page. 
> Read All works fine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, but I'm surprised.  I 
>> agree that the IOS app is much better, but on my Mac iBooks works reasonably 
>> well.  At least mostly.  The interface is kind of clunky, and I get more 
>> busy messages than I would like, but I have no problem reading book content. 
>>  I can read either by line, or just use VO-A to read continuously.  Odd that 
>> my experience would be different from that of so many of you.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>>  
>>> I tried, just as you, to use IBooks on the mac a while back, as I was told 
>>> it worked really well.  There is a possibility that in Yosemite, it did.  I 
>>> confess that I never tried it prior to El Capitan.  I found almost 
>>> identically the same results as you.  I could read a majority of the 
>>> interface of the app, but the book content itself, regardless the book 
>>> loaded, wouldn't read hardly at all.
>>>  
>>> I should add that this isn't the case on I O S.  On I O S, it works 
>>> beautifully.  I did report this to Apple, but I never really followed up 
>>> with them about it, as reading IBooks from the mac isn't really something 
>>> I'd normally wish to do.  I'd prefer to just use my phone, or IPad and do 
>>> it.  That however said, I definitely can confirm that I am  able to 
>>> reproduce your issues.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:10 AM
 Subject: Re: iBooks issue
 
 I recently installed El Capitan and hadn’t used iBooks yet, but tried it 
 just now.
 When I opened iBooks, I went to the book shelf table with my list of books 
 and interacted with it.  I didn’t see another window/table with the 
 contents, so I double-click on my book, to open it.  A window opened, but 
 VO only dinged when I tried to move around.  I had to turn VO off and on 
 in order to read the book.  If I interacted with the scroll area, I could 
 only read my book a line at a time, but if I didn’t interact with it, VO 
 would read all the text continuously.
 
 Gary
 
 
 
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Juan Hernandez  > wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I wanted to know if people are having issues with iBooks?  When I open a 
> book, I can’t seem to read it.  I place focus on the text, and interact 
> with it.  but it makes iBooks go busy, or even restart/ lockup some.
> 
> I’m fully updated on my ox x 10.11.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas I’d really appreciate it.
> 
> Best
> 
> Juan
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Re: How do I remove icons from the dock?

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, that's handy!  How on earth did you figure that out? :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:36 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   You can also sort the Dock. Focus on an app, and while holding the Option 
> and Command keys, use left or right arrows to move. VO will speak what you 
> are next to. Drop the app where you like by releasing the two keys.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 3/10/2016 7:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Awesome!  thank you, worked like a charm.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Easy as pie. Focus on the app,VO shift m, select Options, select Remove 
>>> from dock.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> On 3/10/2016 6:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping. 
  I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the 
 app I want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: iBooks issue

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

Like you, I can read with iBooks on my Mac with no trouble. However, a couple 
of things worth noting:
Having pressed VO-Space on a book title, I often have to turn VoiceOver off and 
back on again to be able to navigate;
The text area is to the right of the Previous Page button and it always goes 
busy for a short while before I can interact with it and read the book;
Quick Nav does not work in iBooks.

I can read by character, word, line, sentence or paragraph, but not by page. 
Read All works fine.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, but I'm surprised.  I 
> agree that the IOS app is much better, but on my Mac iBooks works reasonably 
> well.  At least mostly.  The interface is kind of clunky, and I get more busy 
> messages than I would like, but I have no problem reading book content.  I 
> can read either by line, or just use VO-A to read continuously.  Odd that my 
> experience would be different from that of so many of you.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> Gary,
>>  
>> I tried, just as you, to use IBooks on the mac a while back, as I was told 
>> it worked really well.  There is a possibility that in Yosemite, it did.  I 
>> confess that I never tried it prior to El Capitan.  I found almost 
>> identically the same results as you.  I could read a majority of the 
>> interface of the app, but the book content itself, regardless the book 
>> loaded, wouldn't read hardly at all.
>>  
>> I should add that this isn't the case on I O S.  On I O S, it works 
>> beautifully.  I did report this to Apple, but I never really followed up 
>> with them about it, as reading IBooks from the mac isn't really something 
>> I'd normally wish to do.  I'd prefer to just use my phone, or IPad and do 
>> it.  That however said, I definitely can confirm that I am  able to 
>> reproduce your issues.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Gary 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: iBooks issue
>>> 
>>> I recently installed El Capitan and hadn’t used iBooks yet, but tried it 
>>> just now.
>>> When I opened iBooks, I went to the book shelf table with my list of books 
>>> and interacted with it.  I didn’t see another window/table with the 
>>> contents, so I double-click on my book, to open it.  A window opened, but 
>>> VO only dinged when I tried to move around.  I had to turn VO off and on in 
>>> order to read the book.  If I interacted with the scroll area, I could only 
>>> read my book a line at a time, but if I didn’t interact with it, VO would 
>>> read all the text continuously.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Juan Hernandez >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I wanted to know if people are having issues with iBooks?  When I open a 
 book, I can’t seem to read it.  I place focus on the text, and interact 
 with it.  but it makes iBooks go busy, or even restart/ lockup some.
 
 I’m fully updated on my ox x 10.11.
 
 If anyone has any ideas I’d really appreciate it.
 
 Best
 
 Juan
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Re: How do I remove icons from the dock?

[E.T.]

   You can also sort the Dock. Focus on an app, and while holding the 
Option and Command keys, use left or right arrows to move. VO will speak 
what you are next to. Drop the app where you like by releasing the two keys.


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On 3/10/2016 7:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Awesome!  thank you, worked like a charm.
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Easy as pie. Focus on the app,VO shift m, select Options, select Remove from 
dock.

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On 3/10/2016 6:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping.  
I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the app I 
want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
TIA,
Donna



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Re: How do I remove icons from the dock?

[Donna Goodin]

Awesome!  thank you, worked like a charm.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Easy as pie. Focus on the app,VO shift m, select Options, select Remove 
> from dock.
> 
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> On 3/10/2016 6:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping.  
>> I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the app 
>> I want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: How do I remove icons from the dock?

[E.T.]

   Easy as pie. Focus on the app,VO shift m, select Options, select 
Remove from dock.


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I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping.  
I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the app I 
want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
TIA,
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Re: Requesting uber rides from workflow for iOS

[venky . 92]

Tried that as well. 

Thank you.
Regards,
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Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone

> On 10-Mar-2016, at 8:07 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
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> There is already a workflow for that one. I haven’t used it yet but you could 
> certainly modify it to meet your needs. 
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> 
>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have that service here so can't test it, but have you tried 
>> reversing the address and Ubar actions? Also, if you have Twitter, ask 
>> @WorkflowHQ and I'm sure they'll help. Finally, I think there's an action 
>> for this already, in the Gallery, which you could use instead of trying to 
>> make one. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 21:00, venky...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I recently installedWorkflow for iOS. I'm trying to create a Workflow that 
>>> will hale an uber to my current location to my house address. I created a 
>>> workflow by adding a street address action, entering my house address in 
>>> it, and adding request uber ride action below it. Request an uber but 
>>> however, I'm unable to have it automatically set the destination. What am I 
>>> doing wrong?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Regards,
>>> Venkatesh Potluri
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How do I remove icons from the dock?

[Donna Goodin]

I've googled this, and the answer I found suggested dragging and dropping.  
I've looked in the Finder menu, and brought up the context menu for the app I 
want to remove.  Nothing.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
TIA,
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Re: iBooks issue

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, but I'm surprised.  I agree 
that the IOS app is much better, but on my Mac iBooks works reasonably well.  
At least mostly.  The interface is kind of clunky, and I get more busy messages 
than I would like, but I have no problem reading book content.  I can read 
either by line, or just use VO-A to read continuously.  Odd that my experience 
would be different from that of so many of you.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
>  
> I tried, just as you, to use IBooks on the mac a while back, as I was told it 
> worked really well.  There is a possibility that in Yosemite, it did.  I 
> confess that I never tried it prior to El Capitan.  I found almost 
> identically the same results as you.  I could read a majority of the 
> interface of the app, but the book content itself, regardless the book 
> loaded, wouldn't read hardly at all.
>  
> I should add that this isn't the case on I O S.  On I O S, it works 
> beautifully.  I did report this to Apple, but I never really followed up with 
> them about it, as reading IBooks from the mac isn't really something I'd 
> normally wish to do.  I'd prefer to just use my phone, or IPad and do it.  
> That however said, I definitely can confirm that I am  able to reproduce your 
> issues.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Gary 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: iBooks issue
>> 
>> I recently installed El Capitan and hadn’t used iBooks yet, but tried it 
>> just now.
>> When I opened iBooks, I went to the book shelf table with my list of books 
>> and interacted with it.  I didn’t see another window/table with the 
>> contents, so I double-click on my book, to open it.  A window opened, but VO 
>> only dinged when I tried to move around.  I had to turn VO off and on in 
>> order to read the book.  If I interacted with the scroll area, I could only 
>> read my book a line at a time, but if I didn’t interact with it, VO would 
>> read all the text continuously.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Juan Hernandez >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I wanted to know if people are having issues with iBooks?  When I open a 
>>> book, I can’t seem to read it.  I place focus on the text, and interact 
>>> with it.  but it makes iBooks go busy, or even restart/ lockup some.
>>> 
>>> I’m fully updated on my ox x 10.11.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has any ideas I’d really appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
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Re: Requesting uber rides from workflow for iOS

[Jenine Stanley]

There is already a workflow for that one. I haven’t used it yet but you could 
certainly modify it to meet your needs. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Mar 10, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't have that service here so can't test it, but have you tried reversing 
> the address and Ubar actions? Also, if you have Twitter, ask @WorkflowHQ and 
> I'm sure they'll help. Finally, I think there's an action for this already, 
> in the Gallery, which you could use instead of trying to make one. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 21:00, venky...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I recently installedWorkflow for iOS. I'm trying to create a Workflow that 
>> will hale an uber to my current location to my house address. I created a 
>> workflow by adding a street address action, entering my house address in it, 
>> and adding request uber ride action below it. Request an uber but however, 
>> I'm unable to have it automatically set the destination. What am I doing 
>> wrong?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Regards,
>> Venkatesh Potluri
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: GoPro and other camera app

[Scott Granados]

Image stabilization is an issue.  On my drones they have auto stabilization 
features in the camera itself and in the gimbal.  The only mounts I can think 
of that I have experience with cost 5 or 6 figures and carry very large cameras 
but are so good you could use them on horse back and still have a stable image.

Built in stabilization will do some good but for walking or mounting on a 
harness you still will get jiggle with out exotic gear unless someone else has 
some good ideas.  I’m definitely open to a low cost solution or have others had 
good luck with the built in stabilization features?


> On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Scott, the thing I’m concerned about is image stabilization. I know the 
> iPhone 6S is supposed to have more of that when shooting videos but given the 
> walking kinds of videos I’m planning, there isn’t a good mount for the phone.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, very good question.  It depends on what you’re doing.  If you’re just 
>> doing the odd shot of family to share then the phone is fine.  The iPhone 
>> has a very very good camera built in, it’s actually a Sony censor if memory 
>> serves.
>> 
>> If you want to do heavy duty recording then a GoPro or similar is the way to 
>> go.  You have many more mounts and housings as well as lenses and all sorts 
>> of photographic options the phone doesn’t have.  So it just depends on your 
>> use case.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Would you recommend the go pro over using just an i phone for shooting 
>>> videos for youtube?
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
 On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 George, All I mentioned was that they are very easy to use. You insert a 
 card and press the button on the side of the front like a regular camera.  
 It beeps which means the video starts, beeps again means it stops.  
 
 You can then remove the card and edit as you wish or you can use the 
 application to download the content.  Myself I’m removing the cards but 
 that’s me.
 
 How’s that?
 
 Oh the other thing, Best Buy has a great GoPRo section.  Go there and grab 
 ahold of them if you want an idea what the form factor is like and the 
 accessories etc.
 
 
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Basioli George  wrote:
> 
> scott
> 
> can i get the info for the go pro also
> 
> thanks
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Janine, feel free and write me off list.  I just recently bought a pile 
>> of GoPros and accessories so at least can help out on that side.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks much. My other big question is about accessories for both 
>>> cameras but that’s beyond this list. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 So the Go pro is pretty usable even with out the app.  The nice thing 
 is you have a button on the side which is a simple start and stop 
 recording button and everything is dropped to an SD card where you can 
 copy it and work with the video.  The APP is more of a file transfer / 
 file editing / simple movie making deal.  You can do a lot of that 
 with other tools.
 
 Either camera should do well.  Sony makes the censors for most cameras 
 anyway.
 
 Good luck
 
 
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Jenine Stanley  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m looking to buy a GoPro or similar camera for recording motion, 
> walks, etc. I’ve narrowed my selection down to the GoPro 4 Select and 
> the Sony Mini. 
> 
> Does anyone know how accessible the phone apps to control these 
> cameras are? I’m leaning toward the Sony for price but don’t want to 
> buy it and find out the phone app is useless. Minor access things I 
> can handle. 
> 
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Re: iBooks issue

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Gary,

I tried, just as you, to use IBooks on the mac a while back, as I was told it 
worked really well.  There is a possibility that in Yosemite, it did.  I 
confess that I never tried it prior to El Capitan.  I found almost identically 
the same results as you.  I could read a majority of the interface of the app, 
but the book content itself, regardless the book loaded, wouldn't read hardly 
at all.

I should add that this isn't the case on I O S.  On I O S, it works 
beautifully.  I did report this to Apple, but I never really followed up with 
them about it, as reading IBooks from the mac isn't really something I'd 
normally wish to do.  I'd prefer to just use my phone, or IPad and do it.  That 
however said, I definitely can confirm that I am  able to reproduce your issues.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:10 AM
  Subject: Re: iBooks issue


  I recently installed El Capitan and hadn’t used iBooks yet, but tried it just 
now.
  When I opened iBooks, I went to the book shelf table with my list of books 
and interacted with it.  I didn’t see another window/table with the contents, 
so I double-click on my book, to open it.  A window opened, but VO only dinged 
when I tried to move around.  I had to turn VO off and on in order to read the 
book.  If I interacted with the scroll area, I could only read my book a line 
at a time, but if I didn’t interact with it, VO would read all the text 
continuously.


  Gary






On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Juan Hernandez  
wrote:


Hello All,


I wanted to know if people are having issues with iBooks?  When I open a 
book, I can’t seem to read it.  I place focus on the text, and interact with 
it.  but it makes iBooks go busy, or even restart/ lockup some.


I’m fully updated on my ox x 10.11.


If anyone has any ideas I’d really appreciate it.


Best


Juan

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Re: can't post on my page

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

No need to apologize.  I just wanted to make sure we were on the same... no 
pun intended, page.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Vaughn Brown" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: can't post on my page



Chris,

I am sorry for that. I am talking about the Facebook page. I hope that
clears it up. Basically, I managed to fix that posting issue but it
says reached zero audience".
Thank you folks.
Vaughn



On 3/9/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

Can't post on your page... ok, that's a bit vague.  Are you referring to
Facebook pages?  Google Plus pages? Twitter pages? or what exactly?  No
offense whatsoever intended.

Chris.

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From: "Vaughn Brown" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:25 PM
Subject: can't post on my page



Hi folks,

I am building a page for my music business. I added a profile picture.
What I am having great difficulty with is solving the problem of not
being able to update my status on the page. There is no "what's on
your mind" or any field to post whatsoever. I looked at the settings
but cannot sem to find the one I need. I even tried some research but
came up empty handed.

Thank you for your insight.
Vaughn

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Workflow: getting images of a particular date

[venky . 92]

Hi,
How do I get images of a particular date in workflow?
I added the find photos where action . Tapping on the add filters option is not 
giving any  additional filters that I can select using Voiceover. Checked with 
sighted assistance, tapping this is only giving an option to select an album . 
However, I know this is possible for the fact that there is a workflow in the 
gallery called Time Machine which uses a similar filter. What could have 
possibly gone wrong?
 Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
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Re: Requesting uber rides from workflow for iOS

[venky . 92]

Hi,
I don't think reversing actions will work because, request uber ride action 
takes the destination as input and gives the link to the ride as output. 


Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri

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> On 10-Mar-2016, at 6:24 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't have that service here so can't test it, but have you tried reversing 
> the address and Ubar actions? Also, if you have Twitter, ask @WorkflowHQ and 
> I'm sure they'll help. Finally, I think there's an action for this already, 
> in the Gallery, which you could use instead of trying to make one. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 21:00, venky...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I recently installedWorkflow for iOS. I'm trying to create a Workflow that 
>> will hale an uber to my current location to my house address. I created a 
>> workflow by adding a street address action, entering my house address in it, 
>> and adding request uber ride action below it. Request an uber but however, 
>> I'm unable to have it automatically set the destination. What am I doing 
>> wrong?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Regards,
>> Venkatesh Potluri
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Requesting uber rides from workflow for iOS

[Alex Hall]

I don't have that service here so can't test it, but have you tried reversing 
the address and Ubar actions? Also, if you have Twitter, ask @WorkflowHQ and 
I'm sure they'll help. Finally, I think there's an action for this already, in 
the Gallery, which you could use instead of trying to make one. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 21:00, venky...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I recently installedWorkflow for iOS. I'm trying to create a Workflow that 
> will hale an uber to my current location to my house address. I created a 
> workflow by adding a street address action, entering my house address in it, 
> and adding request uber ride action below it. Request an uber but however, 
> I'm unable to have it automatically set the destination. What am I doing 
> wrong?
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> Regards,
> Venkatesh Potluri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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