Wiping the Hard drive clean in a 2011 Mac computer

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! This is helga! How are you all? Below will be a question that my  
friend Greg ask me regarding his 2011 Mac  computer, but I don't know  the 
answer for it. Hopefully some of yu can answer his question. he is not part of 
the list though. However, I will forward him the answers tht you guys will give 
him. But I think this answers will also definitely help me in th elong run in 
the future if I ever have this issue. I loook forward in hearing from you soon. 
Thanks and God bless! Hi Helga, Ihave a 2011 mac book pro that’s running very 
slow and lagging. I want to wipe the hard drive clean and reinstall a fresh 
copy of the latest operating system on it. Do you know how I would do that? 
Thanks, Greg 

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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Chris,

Oh, thanks for letting me know. :) Well perhaps I will give it a second listen 
and see what I think.

As far as pianos I already have, Aside from the bundled ones in Logic, (of 
which some are really quite good) I have many Roland pianos in a module I have 
called a roland Integra 7. Many of these actually sound very similar to the 
Ivory samples I’ve heard, which was why I was not super into getting them right 
away.

I also have a fairly old Casio digital piano which also sounds quite good. 
Lastly I have Komplete 8 Ultimate which also has a bunch of pianos in it. So 
basically I have way more pianos than I know what to do with! :) lol!

The Integra 7 is great as it is basically a history of everything Roland has 
done over the last 30 years or so. There are like six and a half thousand 
sounds in the module and most of them are simply superb.

there is actually one piano plugin I am still thinking of getting though. It is 
called Emotional Piano and it is from SoundIron. It is a very warm sounding 
jazzy piano which is really nice.

Anyway, would love to hear what you are doing with the Ivory stuff. Feel free 
to share some music privately if you wish.

Thanks to you and Scott for starting this thread and to everyone else who has 
contributed.

Have a great night!

Cheers!

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On May 23, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Cara,

They do have an audio unit version.  I was only stating that you couldn't 
mixmatch the presets from PT into Logic.

In other words, separate presets would have to be made to get things working in 
Logic, as the Audio unit plug, just like the version in ProTools, isn't 
accessible straight out of the box.

The only problem is, there are no demos for Ivory.  The only way to get them is 
to buy it outright, which I think is a bit annoying, but, oh well.

You say you have some pianos that sound really good.  Aside the ones which come 
stock with Logic, what else are you using?
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX


Hi Chris,

I hadn’t looked at the Ivory instruments that deeply since I was not interested 
in them. Yes, I am familiar with the different formats.

Thanks for letting me know though. I was thinking they had an audio unit 
version as well. Thanks for saving me the research. :) -And BTW, as others have 
said, thanks for your work with Synthogy to get the presets into a usable 
format for PT users.

Have a great evening!

Cheers!

Cara
On May 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

There are no demos as far as I know.  Further, the issue is, the plugins are 
not accessible out of the box, hince why custom presets have to be made. The 
problem is, there is no way to take custom made exported presets from ProTools, 
and load them up in logic.  They are two completely different formats, and work 
totally differently.  Plus, the plugins wouldn't work cross platform with the 
presets, even if you could! export the presets, as ProTools uses the AAX I 
think they're called, where as Logic uses Audio units, so totally different.  
It would be kind of like trying to take an old RTas plug from PT back in the 
days, and load it up in Cakewalk/Sonar/Reaper. It's just not gonna happen.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX


Hi Chris,

I do not know, as I do not have the Ivory plugins but I can certainly try them 
if there are demos.

I looked at them on the Synthogy site after I saw your posting on PTAccess but 
since I already have several pianos I really like the sound of, I did not 
purchase them.

I’ll see if there is a demo of some sort and try them in Logic.

Cheers!

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On May 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already, for 
Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.

Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's 
where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely 

Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[sadam ahmed]

Hi Tim,


I just wish Apple would make PDF content accessible instead of getting a 
third party app.


If they did that I  would totally switch to the Mac full time.

Have purchased PDFPen and will play with it this weekend.

Thanks for sending through your thoughts very helpful.

Kindest regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 25/05/2016 10:32 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I've found that PDFPenPro handles columns and other layered layouts much better 
than Preview.  When listening to VO reading out the document, it usually reads 
it out in a far better order so that it is easier to understand.  I do 
primarily use Preview but have found that PDFPenPro handles those sorts of 
pdf's better.  Regarding tables, I can't say positively whether it handles 
things better then it used to or not.  I'd have to test a few pdf's to confirm. 
 I'll take a look some time tomorrow when I have more time.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 24, 2016, at 10:01, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Tim,

Would you mind sharing how pdf pen pro is better from preview?  I did try one 
of the earlier versions and couldn't find a way of working in it at all.  Maybe 
it's improved.  Can it handle tables better for example?

Many thanks

Andrew

On 23 May 2016, at 21:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
great experience reading them on Windows.

Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.

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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't think so.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV


Hi Dodda and all,

Michelle Stevens here,

Does Braille work on the new Apple TV, similar to our other Mac and phone 
features? That would be really useful if I can use my Braille display 
Bluetooth.


Kind wishes
Michelle

Sent from my iPhone


On 24 May 2016, at 11:52 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Well, glad I could help you out for a change. :)  For what it's worth, our 
TV is also a Samsung.


Thanks for the network tips.  I have to get to work, but will mess around 
with that later on today.


Hope the TV volume thing works for you.
Cheers,
Donna

On May 24, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Whoa, that’s cool nd would be nice as I find the show audio low and VO 
hot.


I’m going to try this, thanks for the suggestion.


On May 24, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

It's funny, last night, it did exactly what I would have expected.  When 
I press the button when VO is speaking, it modified that volume.  If I 
pressed it when a show was playing, it modified the TV volume.  That's 
exactly what I wanted it to do, so life is good.  I'm not sure why it 
wasn't doing that on Sunday, but I'm glad it's working now.

Cheers,
Donna

On May 24, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Scott Granados  
wrote:


My TV and Apple TV has only ever modified the master TV volume.  If it 
helps it’s a Samsung smart TV which does seem to support all the 
various protocols over HDMI.





On May 23, 2016, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Donna,

This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perh


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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Michelle's Home Emails]

Hi Dodda and all, 

Michelle Stevens here, 

Does Braille work on the new Apple TV, similar to our other Mac and phone 
features? That would be really useful if I can use my Braille display  
Bluetooth. 

Kind wishes 
Michelle 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 May 2016, at 11:52 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Well, glad I could help you out for a change. :)  For what it's worth, our TV 
> is also a Samsung.
> 
> Thanks for the network tips.  I have to get to work, but will mess around 
> with that later on today.
> 
> Hope the TV volume thing works for you.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Whoa, that’s cool nd would be nice as I find the show audio low and VO hot.
>> 
>> I’m going to try this, thanks for the suggestion.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's funny, last night, it did exactly what I would have expected.  When I 
>>> press the button when VO is speaking, it modified that volume.  If I 
>>> pressed it when a show was playing, it modified the TV volume.  That's 
>>> exactly what I wanted it to do, so life is good.  I'm not sure why it 
>>> wasn't doing that on Sunday, but I'm glad it's working now.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 My TV and Apple TV has only ever modified the master TV volume.  If it 
 helps it’s a Samsung smart TV which does seem to support all the various 
 protocols over HDMI.
 
 
 
> On May 23, 2016, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perh

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Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Actually Ray, you've tought me more than I already knew from that last 
message.  I've only had screen flow for all of maybe a week and a half.  So, 
I'm incredibly new to this, and still am a very very baby learner.


That's what I love though so much about this list, and about the blind mac 
community in a whole.  Unlike the Linux community, we won't go there though, 
the mac community is just so! friendly!  We all are in this together to help 
each other out.  If one person finds a little trick, then we share it.


The J K and L keys are really cool.  Did you know, Ray, that those are 
exactly the keys you use while on the Youtube web site to rewind, pause, and 
fast forward?


Here's a little trick for ya.  Once your video is finnished and ready to be 
published, go look in your file menu.  In addition to your command+E to 
export, you also have an option under there to publish to.  Yes, you heard 
me right.  You can actually directly from the app itself publish directly 
either to Youtube, or to Vimeo.


Totally groovy!
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!


Heh heh heh.  Now that was funny Chris.  Anymore little tricks I should know 
about Screen Flow?



Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

On May 24, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I'm glad that you were able to make some progress, Ray.  It's always nice 
when I can turn someone on to such a useful app to help them with their 
screenflow, uh, I mean, workflow.  LOL!  Just kidding.

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- Original Message - From: "Jürgen Fleger" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!


Do you know which formats are supported?
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 25.05.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Seyoon Choi :

Hi,
Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would 
be the only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of 
YouTube videos, so I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own 
editor didn’t appear to be very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty 
useful and accessible with many shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing 
that i can’t seem to figure out in Screenflow is how you can add audio 
track, such as background music to your video project.

Let me know if there is additional info.
On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  
wrote:


I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at 
least decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last. 
Screen Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos. 
Chris was more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have 
already edited a screen recording, actually imported a video in to 
Screen Flow and cut pieces out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like 
for $99.99 or so, it’s gonna be a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty 
much right about using the in and out markers.  you can press the play 
button with the space bar and J moves you back and L moves you forward. 
The more you press J or L, the faster you move forward or backward. 
This you can control by the zoom in and zoom out buttons on either side 
of the time line.  When you reach very close to the point you want to do 
something, pause the playback using K and then, use the right and left 
arrow keys alone for really super fine adjustment.  When you get to the 
exact point you want to drop the in marker, stop moving the curser and 
press the I key.  Now, navigate in the same way to where you want to 
drop the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  Now, if you press 
Command+delete, this will cause a wripple delete which will delete only 
the section you’ve marked off.  Play it back and you will find the 
unwanted portion gone. Now, if you want to select back to the beginning 
of a video for trimming, just set the out marker and the in marker will 
automatically be pushed right to the beginning.  Want to trim to the 
end, set an in marker instead and everything to the right of it is gone.


Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.

Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box. 
Adding one is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to 
it seems not to be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked 

Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, I'm with Ray.  I need to look at the documentation, but as far as I 
know, at least on the exporting side of it, it only does MP4.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Foret jr" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!


Not of the top of my head.  From what I can tell, Screen Flow exports as mp4 
but maybe it also does more formats.  Just haven’t looked yet.



Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

On May 24, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Jürgen Fleger  
wrote:


Do you know which formats are supported?
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 25.05.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Seyoon Choi :

Hi,
Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would 
be the only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of 
YouTube videos, so I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own 
editor didn’t appear to be very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty 
useful and accessible with many shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing 
that i can’t seem to figure out in Screenflow is how you can add audio 
track, such as background music to your video project.

Let me know if there is additional info.
On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  
wrote:


I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at 
least decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last. 
Screen Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos. 
Chris was more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have 
already edited a screen recording, actually imported a video in to 
Screen Flow and cut pieces out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like 
for $99.99 or so, it’s gonna be a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty 
much right about using the in and out markers.  you can press the play 
button with the space bar and J moves you back and L moves you forward. 
The more you press J or L, the faster you move forward or backward. 
This you can control by the zoom in and zoom out buttons on either side 
of the time line.  When you reach very close to the point you want to do 
something, pause the playback using K and then, use the right and left 
arrow keys alone for really super fine adjustment.  When you get to the 
exact point you want to drop the in marker, stop moving the curser and 
press the I key.  Now, navigate in the same way to where you want to 
drop the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  Now, if you press 
Command+delete, this will cause a wripple delete which will delete only 
the section you’ve marked off.  Play it back and you will find the 
unwanted portion gone.  Now, if you want to select back to the beginning 
of a video for trimming,  just set the out marker and the in marker will 
automatically be pushed right to the beginning.  Want to trim to the 
end, set an in marker instead and everything to the right of it is gone.


Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.

Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box. 
Adding one is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to 
it seems not to be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to 
do this yet.


Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I 
believe one other person on here have found a video editor almost equal 
at least to amadeus Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee 
bit:  but, with Screen Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer 
legitimately claim that there is no video editor he can accessibly use 
and learn fairly quickly!
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

When I turn off the Apple TV, I go to settings, and Click Sleep Now.  It turns 
off the Apple TV, and our TV.  then, when I press the remote, it automatically 
wakes up the Apple TV and turns on the actual TV.  It's great!
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I don't remember seeing  turning on TV as an option, where is that? 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> I actually love that feature.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Touching the remote or some how triggering any of the buttons or touch 
>>> surface will power up your TV if you have that feature enabled under 
>>> settings.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Mary Otten > wrote:
 
 I remember reading something about people's TVs turning on at inopportune 
 times, such as the middle of the night. This was shortly after the new 
 version came out, and whatever it was, it was not a neighbor causing it. 
 Unfortunately, I don't remember what the problem was caused by. Googling 
 around might find you something. We haven't had that happen with ours yet.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 22, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
> Yeah but why would apple tv lturn on if it’s just downloading something, 
> surely that could happen on the device without your tv having to turn on? 
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 3:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> Oh! That makes sense.  I certainly prefer that explanation to Simon's. It 
> would be kind of creepy if your neighbor really could turn on your TV.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 22, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Daniel Miller  > wrote:
>  
> Are TVs do that too. We have three AppleTV fourth-generation units, and 
> two out of the three TVs randomly turn on. My guess is it does that when 
> tvOS wants to download Ariel screensaver videos.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On May 22, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no 
> apparent reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors 
> too.  I wonder how it is that that happens?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and 
> apple tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also 
> has an apple tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day 
> or night.
>  
> I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering 
> our emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it 
> worked like a charm.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde 
> in this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am 
> so grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this 
> is really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  

Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Ray Foret jr]

Heh heh heh.  Now that was funny Chris.  Anymore little tricks I should know 
about Screen Flow?


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On May 24, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad that you were able to make some progress, Ray.  It's always nice 
> when I can turn someone on to such a useful app to help them with their 
> screenflow, uh, I mean, workflow.  LOL!  Just kidding.
> ---
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> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Jürgen Fleger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!
> 
> 
> Do you know which formats are supported?
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> 
>> Am 25.05.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Seyoon Choi :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
>> always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would be 
>> the only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of YouTube 
>> videos, so I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own editor 
>> didn’t appear to be very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty useful and 
>> accessible with many shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing that i can’t 
>> seem to figure out in Screenflow is how you can add audio track, such as 
>> background music to your video project.
>> Let me know if there is additional info.
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at least 
>>> decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last. Screen 
>>> Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos. Chris was 
>>> more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have already edited 
>>> a screen recording, actually imported a video in to Screen Flow and cut 
>>> pieces out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like for $99.99 or so, it’s 
>>> gonna be a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty much right about using the 
>>> in and out markers.  you can press the play button with the space bar and J 
>>> moves you back and L moves you forward.  The more you press J or L, the 
>>> faster you move forward or backward.  This you can control by the zoom in 
>>> and zoom out buttons on either side of the time line.  When you reach very 
>>> close to the point you want to do something, pause the playback using K and 
>>> then, use the right and left arrow keys alone for really super fine 
>>> adjustment.  When you get to the exact point you want to drop the in 
>>> marker, stop moving the curser and press the I key.  Now, navigate in the 
>>> same way to where you want to drop the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  
>>> Now, if you press Command+delete, this will cause a wripple delete which 
>>> will delete only the section you’ve marked off.  Play it back and you will 
>>> find the unwanted portion gone. Now, if you want to select back to the 
>>> beginning of a video for trimming, just set the out marker and the in 
>>> marker will automatically be pushed right to the beginning.  Want to trim 
>>> to the end, set an in marker instead and everything to the right of it is 
>>> gone.
>>> 
>>> Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.
>>> 
>>> Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box.  Adding 
>>> one is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to it seems 
>>> not to be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to do this yet.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I believe 
>>> one other person on here have found a video editor almost equal at least to 
>>> amadeus Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee bit:  but, with 
>>> Screen Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer legitimately claim that there 
>>> is no video editor he can accessibly use and learn fairly quickly!
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
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Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Ray Foret jr]

Not of the top of my head.  From what I can tell, Screen Flow exports as mp4 
but maybe it also does more formats.  Just haven’t looked yet.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On May 24, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Do you know which formats are supported?
> Jürgen 
> 
> 
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> 
>> Am 25.05.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Seyoon Choi :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
>> always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would be 
>> the only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of YouTube 
>> videos, so I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own editor 
>> didn’t appear to be very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty useful and 
>> accessible with many shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing that i can’t 
>> seem to figure out in Screenflow is how you can add audio track, such as 
>> background music to your video project.
>> Let me know if there is additional info.
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at least 
>>> decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last.  Screen 
>>> Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos.  Chris was 
>>> more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have already edited 
>>> a screen recording, actually imported a video in to Screen Flow and cut 
>>> pieces out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like for $99.99 or so, it’s 
>>> gonna be a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty much right about using the 
>>> in and out markers.  you can press the play button with the space bar and J 
>>> moves you back and L moves you forward.  The more you press J or L, the 
>>> faster you move forward or backward.  This you can control by the zoom in 
>>> and zoom out buttons on either side of the time line.  When you reach very 
>>> close to the point you want to do something, pause the playback using K and 
>>> then, use the right and left arrow keys alone for really super fine 
>>> adjustment.  When you get to the exact point you want to drop the in 
>>> marker, stop moving the curser and press the I key.  Now, navigate in the 
>>> same way to where you want to drop the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  
>>> Now, if you press Command+delete, this will cause a wripple delete which 
>>> will delete only the section you’ve marked off.  Play it back and you will 
>>> find the unwanted portion gone.  Now, if you want to select back to the 
>>> beginning of a video for trimming,  just set the out marker and the in 
>>> marker will automatically be pushed right to the beginning.  Want to trim 
>>> to the end, set an in marker instead and everything to the right of it is 
>>> gone.
>>> 
>>> Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.
>>> 
>>> Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box.  Adding 
>>> one is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to it seems 
>>> not to be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to do this yet.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I believe 
>>> one other person on here have found a video editor almost equal at least to 
>>> amadeus Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee bit:  but, with 
>>> Screen Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer legitimately claim that there 
>>> is no video editor he can accessibly use and learn fairly quickly!
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
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Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm glad that you were able to make some progress, Ray.  It's always nice 
when I can turn someone on to such a useful app to help them with their 
screenflow, uh, I mean, workflow.  LOL!  Just kidding.

---
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clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jürgen Fleger" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!


Do you know which formats are supported?
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 25.05.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Seyoon Choi :

Hi,
Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would be 
the only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of YouTube 
videos, so I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own editor 
didn’t appear to be very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty useful 
and accessible with many shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing that i 
can’t seem to figure out in Screenflow is how you can add audio track, 
such as background music to your video project.

Let me know if there is additional info.

On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at 
least decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last. 
Screen Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos. 
Chris was more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have 
already edited a screen recording, actually imported a video in to Screen 
Flow and cut pieces out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like for 
$99.99 or so, it’s gonna be a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty much 
right about using the in and out markers.  you can press the play button 
with the space bar and J moves you back and L moves you forward.  The 
more you press J or L, the faster you move forward or backward.  This you 
can control by the zoom in and zoom out buttons on either side of the 
time line.  When you reach very close to the point you want to do 
something, pause the playback using K and then, use the right and left 
arrow keys alone for really super fine adjustment.  When you get to the 
exact point you want to drop the in marker, stop moving the curser and 
press the I key.  Now, navigate in the same way to where you want to drop 
the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  Now, if you press Command+delete, 
this will cause a wripple delete which will delete only the section you’ve 
marked off.  Play it back and you will find the unwanted portion gone. 
Now, if you want to select back to the beginning of a video for trimming, 
just set the out marker and the in marker will automatically be pushed 
right to the beginning.  Want to trim to the end, set an in marker 
instead and everything to the right of it is gone.


Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.

Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box.  Adding 
one is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to it 
seems not to be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to do 
this yet.


Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I 
believe one other person on here have found a video editor almost equal 
at least to amadeus Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee 
bit:  but, with Screen Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer 
legitimately claim that there is no video editor he can accessibly use 
and learn fairly quickly!
Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

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Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Jürgen Fleger]

Do you know which formats are supported?
Jürgen 


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 25.05.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Seyoon Choi :
> 
> Hi,
> Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
> always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would be 
> the only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of YouTube 
> videos, so I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own editor didn’t 
> appear to be very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty useful and 
> accessible with many shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing that i can’t 
> seem to figure out in Screenflow is how you can add audio track, such as 
> background music to your video project.
> Let me know if there is additional info.
>> On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at least 
>> decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last.  Screen 
>> Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos.  Chris was 
>> more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have already edited a 
>> screen recording, actually imported a video in to Screen Flow and cut pieces 
>> out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like for $99.99 or so, it’s gonna be 
>> a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty much right about using the in and out 
>> markers.  you can press the play button with the space bar and J moves you 
>> back and L moves you forward.  The more you press J or L, the faster you 
>> move forward or backward.  This you can control by the zoom in and zoom out 
>> buttons on either side of the time line.  When you reach very close to the 
>> point you want to do something, pause the playback using K and then, use the 
>> right and left arrow keys alone for really super fine adjustment.  When you 
>> get to the exact point you want to drop the in marker, stop moving the 
>> curser and press the I key.  Now, navigate in the same way to where you want 
>> to drop the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  Now, if you press 
>> Command+delete, this will cause a wripple delete which will delete only the 
>> section you’ve marked off.  Play it back and you will find the unwanted 
>> portion gone.  Now, if you want to select back to the beginning of a video 
>> for trimming,  just set the out marker and the in marker will automatically 
>> be pushed right to the beginning.  Want to trim to the end, set an in marker 
>> instead and everything to the right of it is gone.
>> 
>> Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.
>> 
>> Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box.  Adding 
>> one is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to it seems 
>> not to be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to do this yet.
>> 
>> Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I believe 
>> one other person on here have found a video editor almost equal at least to 
>> amadeus Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee bit:  but, with 
>> Screen Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer legitimately claim that there 
>> is no video editor he can accessibly use and learn fairly quickly!
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
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Re: A Question Regarding Twitter Hash Tags

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Mark, either Tweetings or Twitterific will let you follow a hashtag, but not 
be notified when someone posts to it, the latter could get rather noisy and I 
know of no client that has implemented this for that reason.
I do my radio show, the Mosen Explosion, on Mushroom FM, where we have a policy 
of sending out all our tweets with the #MushroomFM hashtag. By doing this, not 
only can people who aren't interested filter the hashtag from their timeline, 
but it also allows listeners who are all tuned in but not necessarily following 
each other to communicate with one another about the show. It really fosters a 
sense of community.
One advantage of Tweetings over Twitterific is that it will also automatically 
insert a hashtag for you. So if you're tweeting a lot at an event, or as part 
of a radio show, you can save 
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> On 25/05/2016, at 9:11 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am cross posting this.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible iOS app that allows one to
> either follow or be notified of updates to a hash tag?  
> 
> As it currently stands in the Native iOS Twitter app, while one can search
> for hash tag items, it is not possible to save that search or follow the
> hash tag.
> 
> By following the hash tag, I mean that I would, at best, be notified when
> others post using that hash tag or, at worst, be able to save the hash tag
> as a search so that I do not need to retype it in, again.  
> 
> Now I have Twitterific but, as far as I can tell, it does not allow for hash
> tag push notifications.  
> 
> Mark
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Apple Watch saying "no Siri connection"?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
My Apple Watch has been humming along perfectly since I got it about two months 
ago. Then, within the last few days, it's lost its Siri connection twice. Plus, 
today, it only received some notifications, not all that it should have. Both 
times, turning it off and on again has fixed the problem, but I can't see why 
this would happen out of the blue after many weeks of no problems at all. Is 
there a better fix for this? Any troubleshooting I can do? Thanks in advance.

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Re: falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Seyoon Choi]

Hi,
Thanks for this useful tricks. I am a heavy video editor as well, and I’ve 
always thought Apple’s video editor like Final Cut pro and iMovie would be the 
only choice when it comes to editing videos. I make a lot of YouTube videos, so 
I find this to be helpful. At first Screenflow’s own editor didn’t appear to be 
very accessible but it seems like it’s pretty useful and accessible with many 
shortcut keys to utilize. The only thing that i can’t seem to figure out in 
Screenflow is how you can add audio track, such as background music to your 
video project.
Let me know if there is additional info.
> On May 24, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at least 
> decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last.  Screen 
> Flow.  That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos.  Chris was 
> more right than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have already edited a 
> screen recording, actually imported a video in to Screen Flow and cut pieces 
> out and so forth.  In short, sure looks like for $99.99 or so, it’s gonna be 
> a sweet app for sure!!!  I was pretty much right about using the in and out 
> markers.  you can press the play button with the space bar and J moves you 
> back and L moves you forward.  The more you press J or L, the faster you move 
> forward or backward.  This you can control by the zoom in and zoom out 
> buttons on either side of the time line.  When you reach very close to the 
> point you want to do something, pause the playback using K and then, use the 
> right and left arrow keys alone for really super fine adjustment.  When you 
> get to the exact point you want to drop the in marker, stop moving the curser 
> and press the I key.  Now, navigate in the same way to where you want to drop 
> the out marker.  Now, press the O key.  Now, if you press Command+delete, 
> this will cause a wripple delete which will delete only the section you’ve 
> marked off.  Play it back and you will find the unwanted portion gone.  Now, 
> if you want to select back to the beginning of a video for trimming,  just 
> set the out marker and the in marker will automatically be pushed right to 
> the beginning.  Want to trim to the end, set an in marker instead and 
> everything to the right of it is gone.
> 
> Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.
> 
> Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box.  Adding one 
> is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to it seems not to 
> be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to do this yet.
> 
> Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I believe 
> one other person on here have found a video editor almost equal at least to 
> amadeus Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee bit:  but, with 
> Screen Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer legitimately claim that there 
> is no video editor he can accessibly use and learn fairly quickly!
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I don't remember seeing  turning on TV as an option, where is that? 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On May 23, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I actually love that feature.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 23, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Touching the remote or some how triggering any of the buttons or touch 
>> surface will power up your TV if you have that feature enabled under 
>> settings.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember reading something about people's TVs turning on at inopportune 
>>> times, such as the middle of the night. This was shortly after the new 
>>> version came out, and whatever it was, it was not a neighbor causing it. 
>>> Unfortunately, I don't remember what the problem was caused by. Googling 
>>> around might find you something. We haven't had that happen with ours yet.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 22, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 Yeah but why would apple tv lturn on if it’s just downloading something, 
 surely that could happen on the device without your tv having to turn on? 
  
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 3:28 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
  
 Oh! That makes sense.  I certainly prefer that explanation to Simon's. It 
 would be kind of creepy if your neighbor really could turn on your TV.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 22, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
  
 Are TVs do that too. We have three AppleTV fourth-generation units, and 
 two out of the three TVs randomly turn on. My guess is it does that when 
 tvOS wants to download Ariel screensaver videos.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
 On May 22, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no 
 apparent reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors too. 
  I wonder how it is that that happens?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
  
 I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and 
 apple tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has 
 an apple tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or 
 night.
  
 I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
  
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
  
 It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering 
 our emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it 
 worked like a charm.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
  
 I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde 
 in this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am 
 so grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this 
 is really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
 upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
  
 Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds 
 like you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here 
 somewhere.
  
 Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button? 
  Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
 TIA,
 Donna
 On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
  
 Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
 Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style 
 Apple Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't 
 think that's what you meant, is it?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second 
 GEN. I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose 
 chase. :-)
 

Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I've found that PDFPenPro handles columns and other layered layouts much better 
than Preview.  When listening to VO reading out the document, it usually reads 
it out in a far better order so that it is easier to understand.  I do 
primarily use Preview but have found that PDFPenPro handles those sorts of 
pdf's better.  Regarding tables, I can't say positively whether it handles 
things better then it used to or not.  I'd have to test a few pdf's to confirm. 
 I'll take a look some time tomorrow when I have more time.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 24, 2016, at 10:01, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Tim,

Would you mind sharing how pdf pen pro is better from preview?  I did try one 
of the earlier versions and couldn't find a way of working in it at all.  Maybe 
it's improved.  Can it handle tables better for example?

Many thanks

Andrew
> On 23 May 2016, at 21:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
> PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
> technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
> great experience reading them on Windows.
> 
> Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.
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PDFPen for iOS

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

For those of you interested in PDFPen for iOS, please consider the response 
from Smile Support pasted below before your purchase.  Certainly isn't a show 
stopper, but worth considering.

"Regarding PDFpen for iOS, currently the VoiceOver support is not adequate in 
PDFpen 2 to do more advanced editing. There is some basic support for 
navigating into a document with VoiceOver, but there is not much support for 
navigating the elements of the PDF itself (such as finding the signature 
boxes). We have it on our list to continue to improve the VoiceOver support, 
but at this point I would not recommend using PDFpen to do something like sign 
specific areas of the document.

Regarding PDFpenPro for Mac, we've had significant development with 
Accessibility because we've been developing the program for much longer. Also 
feedback from customers as yourself help us better understand the user so we 
can develop it in that direction. I will forward your request regarding 
Accessibility for PDFpen for iOS onto engineering

As we are continually working to enhance and improve the program, we appreciate 
any feedback you may have. We are always happy to help. Feel free to email us 
anytime if you have any other questions, comments, concerns, or suggestions.

Thanks for using PDFpen from Smile!"

They are very responsive to feature requests and improvements in accessibility.

Later...

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Re: A Question Regarding Twitter Hash Tags

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

You know, Mark, I have wondered how people do that. I've heard of 
contests wherein the winner tweets using a hashtag. I just looked in 
Tweetings for iOS, and I don't see it there either. A lot of companies 
use Tweetdeck, but I haven't found that that app was really any good. it 
was clunkier more so than it was inaccessible.



Ben


On 5/24/2016 14:11, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello,

I am cross posting this.

Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible iOS app that allows one to
either follow or be notified of updates to a hash tag?

As it currently stands in the Native iOS Twitter app, while one can search
for hash tag items, it is not possible to save that search or follow the
hash tag.

By following the hash tag, I mean that I would, at best, be notified when
others post using that hash tag or, at worst, be able to save the hash tag
as a search so that I do not need to retype it in, again.

Now I have Twitterific but, as far as I can tell, it does not allow for hash
tag push notifications.

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A Question Regarding Twitter Hash Tags

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

I am cross posting this.

Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible iOS app that allows one to
either follow or be notified of updates to a hash tag?  

As it currently stands in the Native iOS Twitter app, while one can search
for hash tag items, it is not possible to save that search or follow the
hash tag.

By following the hash tag, I mean that I would, at best, be notified when
others post using that hash tag or, at worst, be able to save the hash tag
as a search so that I do not need to retype it in, again.  

Now I have Twitterific but, as far as I can tell, it does not allow for hash
tag push notifications.  

Mark

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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Stacey Robinson]

I just find it very difficult to use.

Blessings,
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mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On May 24, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> Really? What Do you not like about it?
>> On May 23, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Stacey Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I also have the LG TonePro and don’t like it at all.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>  
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an LG tone, and love it.  It fits behind your head, kind of like a 
>>> necklace and has ear tips that are magnetic, which can sometimes be a pain 
>>> in the neck to get to stay in there, but otherwise, has great sound and 
>>> talks when you turn it on and lets you know your battery status.
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 The Plantronics Backbeat is a good way to go for stereo headset.
 
 
> On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
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> Hi:
> Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good 
> stareo sound?
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
This is in the airport utility yes.
You have to select the device to edit first and then double tap the edit button.
I assume you do it on your iphone.
/A
> On 24 May 2016, at 21:53, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> I'm not seeing an Edit Option.  Is this within the Airport Utility?
> TIA,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah you have an airport extreme, very good so do I so I can be helpful here.:)
>> 
>> 
>> Go in to network under the edit option and select wireless, under there you 
>> can see, I believe it’s under advanced the 2.4 and 5.0 network name, it’s 
>> probably the same  if you didn’t specifically define different names on 
>> setup.  Your airport utility though will show you what you need and it’s 
>> very safe / easy to look, just don’t click apply or ok and use the cancel to 
>> back out and you’re good.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Scott.  OK, so you can tell it's been a long time since I set ours 
>>> up. lol   Can I assume, since I did not set up two SSIDs that my Airport 
>>> Extreme is using the same one?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 24, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means 
 the network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other 
 than the default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern 
 routers you have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do 
 something like my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can 
 individually connect to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  
 I have all mine set to the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the 
 same name and then the adapter figures out what’s best.
 
 Make more sense?
 
 :)
 
 Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
 specifics.  I’m betting you have though
 
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to 
> the SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
>> Will do that later on here.
>> /A
>>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
>>> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, so here we have the sollution.
 I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
 So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
 /A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> So yes and no.
> 
> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
> enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 
> 5.0 GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 
> 5.0 only it won’t work.
>   If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow 
> for WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available 
> over WiFi but calling is.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> So
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
>> to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
>> my Iphone.
>> At least it tells me so.
>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>> Any thoughts
>> /AA
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Chris, in terms of a Pages tutorial, Anne and Archie Robertson have produced 
a book covering using Pages from a blindness perspective. It's a comprehensive 
resource and you can find it here.
http://mosen.org/index.php/mymacpages/
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falling in love with Screen Flow!!!

[Ray Foret jr]

I seem to recall somebody out there on this list wanted a good or at least 
decent video editor.  Well, I think I may have found it at last.  Screen Flow.  
That’s the one that Chris uses do do his youtube videos.  Chris was more right 
than he knew!!!  I mean totally right!!!  I have already edited a screen 
recording, actually imported a video in to Screen Flow and cut pieces out and 
so forth.  In short, sure looks like for $99.99 or so, it’s gonna be a sweet 
app for sure!!!  I was pretty much right about using the in and out markers.  
you can press the play button with the space bar and J moves you back and L 
moves you forward.  The more you press J or L, the faster you move forward or 
backward.  This you can control by the zoom in and zoom out buttons on either 
side of the time line.  When you reach very close to the point you want to do 
something, pause the playback using K and then, use the right and left arrow 
keys alone for really super fine adjustment.  When you get to the exact point 
you want to drop the in marker, stop moving the curser and press the I key.  
Now, navigate in the same way to where you want to drop the out marker.  Now, 
press the O key.  Now, if you press Command+delete, this will cause a wripple 
delete which will delete only the section you’ve marked off.  Play it back and 
you will find the unwanted portion gone.  Now, if you want to select back to 
the beginning of a video for trimming,  just set the out marker and the in 
marker will automatically be pushed right to the beginning.  Want to trim to 
the end, set an in marker instead and everything to the right of it is gone.

Cutting and pasting work very much the same way.

Only thing I haven’t figured out is how to type in to a text box.  Adding one 
is easy enough, but, finding and clicking on it to type in to it seems not to 
be possible:  or else, I just haven’t worked out how to do this yet.

Just wanted to tel you that I firmly believe that Chris and I and I believe one 
other person on here have found a video editor almost equal at least to amadeus 
Pro.  Well, Okay, that may be pushing it just a wee bit:  but, with Screen 
Flow, the blind Mac user can no longer legitimately claim that there is no 
video editor he can accessibly use and learn fairly quickly!
Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scott,

I'm not seeing an Edit Option.  Is this within the Airport Utility?
TIA,
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Ah you have an airport extreme, very good so do I so I can be helpful here.:)
> 
> 
> Go in to network under the edit option and select wireless, under there you 
> can see, I believe it’s under advanced the 2.4 and 5.0 network name, it’s 
> probably the same  if you didn’t specifically define different names on 
> setup.  Your airport utility though will show you what you need and it’s very 
> safe / easy to look, just don’t click apply or ok and use the cancel to back 
> out and you’re good.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Scott.  OK, so you can tell it's been a long time since I set ours 
>> up. lol   Can I assume, since I did not set up two SSIDs that my Airport 
>> Extreme is using the same one?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means 
>>> the network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other 
>>> than the default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern 
>>> routers you have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do 
>>> something like my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can 
>>> individually connect to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I 
>>> have all mine set to the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same 
>>> name and then the adapter figures out what’s best.
>>> 
>>> Make more sense?
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
>>> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to 
 the SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
> Will do that later on here.
> /A
>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
>> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>>> /A
 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 So yes and no.
 
 Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
 enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 
 GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 
 only it won’t work.
If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow 
 for WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available 
 over WiFi but calling is.
 
 Hope that helps.
 So
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
> to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
> my Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Donna Goodin]

Good to know.  thanks!
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I don’t regrett i’ve bought the SE.
> Its small enough to fit in a pocket without any problems.
> I didn’t like to have the 6S in a pocket on my Jeans so this is a great plus 
> for me.
> The Touch Id is a bit slower on the SE but thats not a problem for me. The 
> only downside is that Voiceover sounds a bit dull on the SE.
> The other sounds sounds as they should so i am not sure why voiceover would 
> sound that dull.
> /A
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>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> I was very intrigued when the SE came out.  Just curious, how are you liking 
>> it?  Other than the battery issue, do you prefer it over the 6S?  Anything 
>> you liked better on the 6S?
>> 
>> I know a lot of that is subjective, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> My 6S had to be charged evry day.
>>> Thats why i bought an Iphone Se.
>>> /A
 23 maj 2016 kl. 13:55 skrev Jenine Stanley :
 
 I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some 
 reason my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. 
 I’m also using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and 
 have the wifi mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular 
 signal.  
 
 Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
 battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem 
 to match the drain I’m experiencing. 
 
 Thoughts?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t regrett i’ve bought the SE.
Its small enough to fit in a pocket without any problems.
I didn’t like to have the 6S in a pocket on my Jeans so this is a great plus 
for me.
The Touch Id is a bit slower on the SE but thats not a problem for me. The only 
downside is that Voiceover sounds a bit dull on the SE.
The other sounds sounds as they should so i am not sure why voiceover would 
sound that dull.
/A
> On 24 May 2016, at 14:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> I was very intrigued when the SE came out.  Just curious, how are you liking 
> it?  Other than the battery issue, do you prefer it over the 6S?  Anything 
> you liked better on the 6S?
> 
> I know a lot of that is subjective, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> My 6S had to be charged evry day.
>> Thats why i bought an Iphone Se.
>> /A
>>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 13:55 skrev Jenine Stanley :
>>> 
>>> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some 
>>> reason my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. 
>>> I’m also using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have 
>>> the wifi mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
>>> battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
>>> match the drain I’m experiencing. 
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Jessica Moss]

Really? What Do you not like about it?
> On May 23, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
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> I also have the LG TonePro and don’t like it at all.
> 
> Blessings,
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>> On May 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>> I got an LG tone, and love it.  It fits behind your head, kind of like a 
>> necklace and has ear tips that are magnetic, which can sometimes be a pain 
>> in the neck to get to stay in there, but otherwise, has great sound and 
>> talks when you turn it on and lets you know your battery status.
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Plantronics Backbeat is a good way to go for stereo headset.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good 
 stareo sound?
 Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
 
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Re: Pptp or vpn.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

PPTP is a particular VPN protocol, so you don’t choose between PPTP and VPN but 
PPTP and some other protocol.

PPTP is very convenient because it’s widely used and supported by everything, 
but it’s less secure than other protocols such as OpenVPN or IPSec.  I prefer 
IPSec myself, as it’s standard and iOS has native support for it.  But it’s 
more complicated to set up than PPTP or OpenVPN.  You need an app for anything 
besides PPTP or IPSec on iOS.

Maybe your VPN provider has an app, and maybe they also have manual 
configuration instructions.  Look out for them, as they’ll tell you which 
protocols are in use and/or help you set it up.

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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Krister, you’re not alone.  Despite my best efforts to like both Bluez 2 and 
Trekz Titanium, I’m afraid they just aren’t for me.  I will need something 
louder, with more clarity.  I’ll take the risk of using them only while I’m 
travelling with sight, and keep the Bluez for solo trips with mapping (which I 
rarely need on my routine journeys anyway).

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Pptp or vpn.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There’s a Vpn service in Sweden called Bahnhoff that can give me Pptp or vpn 
for a very low price.
However what is the difference between a vpn and pptp.
Is there less security in the later or is it the same as a vpn?
Thanks.
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Try forgetting and re-adding the Wi-Fi network on your iPhone.  Sometimes I 
found that if the watch had been set up after the Wi-Fi network, then the watch 
didn’t receive the necessary key.  Also make sure your Wi-Fi network offers 
DHCP (almost always the case), you’re using a simple shared key (almost always 
the case) and that you aren’t using any MAC address filtering (you’ll know if 
you are, most likely).

You’ll know if it worked because the Settings glance says “Connected” and Ping 
iPhone will work even if you turn Bluetooth off on your iPhone.

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Re: Facebook on the Mac.

[christopher hallsworth]

Used to use Trillion, but confessed to have not used it lately so glad Facebook 
is still working there. Sorry about that.
> On 24 May 2016, at 18:55, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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> Hi Chris. That's not true. Trillian still supports Facebook.
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>> It can’t be done now as Facebook shut down the Jabba protocol. This applies 
>> to all third party clients not just the Messages app.
>>> On 24 May 2016, at 18:16, sadam ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just wondering the steps for setting up Facebook in the messages app?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If some one could post the instructions would appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
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Re: Facebook on the Mac.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Chris. That's not true. Trillian still supports Facebook.

Shawn
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> On May 24, 2016, at 12:42 PM, christopher hallsworth 
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> It can’t be done now as Facebook shut down the Jabba protocol. This applies 
> to all third party clients not just the Messages app.
>> On 24 May 2016, at 18:16, sadam ahmed  wrote:
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>> Just wondering the steps for setting up Facebook in the messages app?
>> 
>> 
>> If some one could post the instructions would appreciate it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
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Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac

[Chris Moore]

Hi Chris,
I listened to your iTunes podcast and commend you for the effort.  My question 
is when I am in the edit box VO + down just beeps and does not leave the edit 
field.  This is different behavior from what you described.  Any thoughts?

Thanks
Chris M
> On May 24, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Kimber Gardner  
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> Hi Chris,
> 
> Do you have a tutorial for the older version of iTunes? I don't have
> version 12.4 and can't upgrade to it because my os is too old.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kimber
> 
> On 5/23/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
>> Kimber,
>> 
>> You may want to have a look at my Youtube channel, as I did an extremely
>> comprehensive walkthrough recently on ITunes, and how to navigate the music
>> 
>> area.
>> 
>> You'll find the video on my channel, which is at:
>> 
>> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Chris.
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:53 AM
>> Subject: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I'm new to the list and pretty much a novice to the Mac though I've
>>> had an iPhone for the past four years.
>>> 
>>> I have an older MacAir running Lion which I want to use to stream
>>> content from my iTunes library and Apple music. My problem is I'm
>>> unable to locate the particular artist, album or playlist I want to
>>> play. I have been able to get content to play, but it seems more by
>>> luck than skill. Here's what happens.
>>> 
>>> I have my iTunes displayed by artist. But when I get into the -- I
>>> guess it's the table? -- where the content is shown, all I see is how
>>> many albums or songs I have by each artist but not the names of the
>>> artists.
>>> 
>>> If someone could give me some basic steps for navigating around iTunes
>>> and accessing my content I would be very grateful.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Kimber
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Re: Facebook on the Mac.

[christopher hallsworth]

It can’t be done now as Facebook shut down the Jabba protocol. This applies to 
all third party clients not just the Messages app.
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> Just wondering the steps for setting up Facebook in the messages app?
> 
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> If some one could post the instructions would appreciate it.
> 
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> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: simple video editor

[Scott Berry]

Yes I have used them on the Mac before.  I am not a regular user but the person 
I have been working with is trying to make accessibility better.  I think it’s 
a one man show so we just need to let him know what’s wrong and I am sure he’ll 
try to fix it.


> On May 24, 2016, at 5:23 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Well, some buttons remain unlabeled and have no help tags.  Also, the editing 
> function seems to have no way to set in and out markers on the time line and 
> the video downloader part needs a lot of work still because mainly of 
> unlabeled buttons and controls and it seems not possible to select a number 
> of videos for batch downloading as they claim can be done.  Do you use their 
> apps?  If so, any tips you can offer would be helpful.  One thing I will give 
> them is that as a converter, Total Video Converter can’t be beat because you 
> can convert pretty much any video in to a format which can be watch or used.  
> So far as I can determine, though, you can’t convert an mp4 so that it uses 
> AAC instead of AC3 for the audio format.  That causes a problem for windows 
> users because natively, windows player cannot handle AC3.  Not an issue for 
> us Mac users, but, when I sent a friend who uses windows an mp4, he couldn’t 
> play the audio.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Was wondering what you used to put that together.  The people who make Total 
>> video Converter have just improved their product to what they say is Voice 
>> OVer support but it seems minimal at best.  Still, it’s doable.
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
>>> well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
>>> Youtube.
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>>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: simple video editor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time 
>>> I tried it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
 with that app.
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 - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
 To: "Mac Visionaries List" 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
 Subject: simple video editor
 
 
 Okay,
 
 Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
 which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
 press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
 set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
 remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
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Re: Focus Blue 40 braille display not working on the Mac computer when using Bluetooth

[Scott Berry]

Maybe we need to tell accessibility directly we don’t think the engineering 
team isn’t listening and that might put a fire under them.

I have reported that my braille display hasn’t worked on the Mac for gosh four 
versions now.


> On May 24, 2016, at 6:12 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> 
> It kind of seems braille support on the Mac is a bit of an after thought. 
> 
> iOS works quite well. 
> 
> People have given feedback but it continues to be horrible. 
> 
> I just hope things improve in the next version of the OS. 
> 
> On 24/05/2016 6:41 AM, Walkaway Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hello Anne.
>> 
>> Sorry for the late reply.  I did do what you suggested months ago but it 
>> still kept happening, the combination of letters which I tried to do timed 
>> out.  However, I’m waiting for more improvements re braille on the Mac but 
>> so far nothing is happening yet about braille.  I wish it would.  I wish 
>> braille on the Mac was as good as braille on the I devices.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 22 May 2016, at 10:30, Anne Robertson < 
>>> a...@anarchie.org.uk 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Kawal,
>>> 
>>> Here’s a suggestion how to make it work.
>>> Position your left hand on the computer keyboard with your little finger on 
>>> the Command key and your index finger on the letter ‘b’. Place your right 
>>> hand on your Braille display. In this way, you only have to bring your left 
>>> hand to your right hand after pressing Cmd-b and you should have time to 
>>> press the key combination you want.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 May 2016, at 10:16, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:
 
 Hello Anne.
 
 That is my problem, I am not quick enough to sign the commands. It times 
 out because I am too slow.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21 May 2016, at 6:56 pm, Anne Robertson > wrote:
 
> Hello Kawal,
> To assign a command on a Braille display, press the Assign command 
> button, then press the Add button.
> Press Cmd-b then quickly press the key combination on your Braille device 
> that you wish to use. You’ll then find a menu button where you can select 
> the appropriate action.
> 
> You have to be quick putting in the key combination on your Braille 
> display as you only have 5 seconds and the computer makes a sort of 
> clanging noise for the whole time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 May 2016, at 08:58, Kawal Gucukoglu < 
>> kgli...@icloud.com 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Last time I tried to assign commands, I could not do it.  If someone can 
>> explain how to do it please then that would be hhelpful as I’d like to 
>> use my braille display with the Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 May 2016, at 00:10, David Chittenden < 
>>> dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Braille displays are highly customiseable on the Mac. Have you looked 
>>> at the table of commands for your braille display?
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email:  dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 20 May 2016, at 07:08, Kawal Gucukoglu < 
>>> kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 Are you connection your braille display through the Voice Utility 
 menu?  You can’t connect it directly through the Bluetooth menu.  You 
 need to select the Voice Utility, VO F8 and arrow down until you get 
 to braille.  I have just connected my Focus 40 Blue to make sure and 
 it works although i find braille on the mac not very useful.  I wish 
 it was but thus far no work is being done to change this.  Just my 
 opinion.
 
 Kawal.
> On 19 May 2016, at 19:58, Scott Berry < 
> sb356...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> Is anyone else having problems still with the Focus 40 Blue display 
> not working in bluetooth mode on the Mac?
> 
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Re: Facebook on the Mac.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I posted instructions a few days ago, but FaceBook has moth-balled it's Jabber 
server.  Therefore, the Messages app is no longer a viable solution for 
FaceBook messaging.  There are some other apps people have suggested like 
Trillion although I've never used them myself.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 24, 2016, at 11:16, sadam ahmed  wrote:

Just wondering the steps for setting up Facebook in the messages app?


If some one could post the instructions would appreciate it.


Sadam Ahmed


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Re: TV for Apple TV

[Scott Granados]

Visio is a good brand on the low end price range.  You get a lot for your buck, 
if that helps.



> On May 24, 2016, at 12:45 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   So many choices and many strange brand names too.
> 
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> On 5/24/2016 6:19 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> There are, there still are options from small on up.  I’d definitely go flat 
>> screen if you can and I’m not sure your budget.  Amazon has good deals.  You 
>> can get a 40 inch Samsung 4K TV for about 500 bucks which means you can go 
>> far cheaper with fewer features and smaller screen.  Lots of options out 
>> there though.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 6:51 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Been toying with the notion of replacing old TV with a new one. Only two 
>>> criteria to consider. One, for use with Apple TV and two, needs to have a 
>>> headphone jack. Perhaps 32 inch is big enough.
>>> 
>>>  Are there good choices out there where one can easily change inputs?
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Facebook on the Mac.

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Just wondering the steps for setting up Facebook in the messages app?


If some one could post the instructions would appreciate it.


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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

The name should be the same including case and all the security settings / keys 
should be the same which they almost certainly are.  I’ve seen very few units 
that support different keys and security for 2.4 and 5.0.  The general settings 
I use are a decently secure key, WPA2 security, yes encryption (most routers 
don’t have this choice but in case they do), and I use WPA2 only not WPA/WPA2 
mixed because it performs better.  If you have old gear that needs WPA then 
leave as mixed otherwise optimize by selecting 2 only.  Other stuff like DTIM 
interval I leavealone, if your router supports it you can enable short guard 
interval.  If you don’t have any of these settings then don’t worry about it.:)

Other things I suggest are making sure you’re on one of the main channels like 
1, 6 or 11 on 2.4 or 151, 157 or 161 among others on the 5.0 GHZ band.  You can 
use the lower channels of 5.0 like 36, 40 and so forth but these are DFS which 
means shared with weather RADAR frequencies.  Believe me, weather RADAR will 
win.:)  I had an issue where WBZ channel 4 TV had a Doppler RADAR behind the 
building I was working in and it made WiFi go sideways.

Channels are important, use the wrong ones on 2.4 or 5.0 and you overlap 
randomly with your neighbors and the routers have hard times negotiating this, 
also use congested channels and performance drops so try to find one that’s 
open.  Or do what I did, I live in a WiFi saturated area so I jacked up my 
power.:)  I can pick up my home WiFi for over a mile but I can’t stand with in 
6 feet of the rack it sits on for long durations according to the manufacturers 
instructions.  Then again it says for outdoor use only as well and that seemed 
optional so we’ll see.


> On May 24, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Scott, is there anything else that needs setting when giving both networks 
> the same name? Sorry if I missed that.
> 
> Hey, I’m not quite 1 of the 1% but creeping that way. I judge not.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you say that now but when people find out I’m one of the 1% all bets 
>> are off.:)
>> 
>> One more point on the 2.4 verses 5G thing that’s worth mentioning since you 
>> mentioned issues.  The 2.4 signal carries further and penetrates walls 
>> better etc but is slower.  The 5.0 GHZ can carry well but interacts with 
>> walls and things more and provides more speed do to the literal higher 
>> bandwidth.  Now there’s a lot of other factors here including the type of 
>> network (N, G, AC etc) and a lot of other things that probably get to 
>> technical for this list but the advantage to joining both networks with 
>> different names or having both assigned the same name is your device can 
>> select the best frequency for the conditions.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for that excellent explanation. You are worth every penny 
>>> they pay you for such things.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means 
 the network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other 
 than the default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern 
 routers you have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do 
 something like my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can 
 individually connect to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  
 I have all mine set to the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the 
 same name and then the adapter figures out what’s best.
 
 Make more sense?
 
 :)
 
 Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
 specifics.  I’m betting you have though
 
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to 
> the SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
>> Will do that later on here.
>> /A
>>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
>>> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, so here we have the sollution.
 I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 

Re: TV for Apple TV

[E.T.]

   So many choices and many strange brand names too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 5/24/2016 6:19 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

There are, there still are options from small on up.  I’d definitely go flat 
screen if you can and I’m not sure your budget.  Amazon has good deals.  You 
can get a 40 inch Samsung 4K TV for about 500 bucks which means you can go far 
cheaper with fewer features and smaller screen.  Lots of options out there 
though.



On May 23, 2016, at 6:51 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Been toying with the notion of replacing old TV with a new one. Only two 
criteria to consider. One, for use with Apple TV and two, needs to have a 
headphone jack. Perhaps 32 inch is big enough.

  Are there good choices out there where one can easily change inputs?

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Re: Computer repeatedly trying to connect to bluetooth speaker

[E.T.]

Kimber,
   In System Preferences, Sounds, at the bottom enable "Show volume in 
menu bar".


   Go to menu extras, arrow over to sounds then hold down the Option 
key and click the lower left corner of the trackpad.


   You will see a list of the input and output devices on your system. 
You can choose what you want to be active.


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On 5/24/2016 3:20 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

Hi All,

I have a Bluetooth speaker that I like to use when I listen to music
on my Mac. Sometimes however, I don't want to route the sound through
the speaker like when I'm doing just normal tasks. At these times the
computer is continually trying to connect to the speaker and throwing
an error telling me it can't connect. How can I stop it from trying to
connect automatically, short of unpairing the speaker altogether.

Thanks,
Kimber



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Re: Editing an audio file.

[Stacey Robinson]

where do I find audacity and does it work well with VO?
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
> On May 24, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Carter Temm  wrote:
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> Give Audacity and try. It's not the easiest audio editor to work with, but it 
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>> I have an mp3 file that I would like to edit the end from.
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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Tim,

Would you mind sharing how pdf pen pro is better from preview?  I did try one 
of the earlier versions and couldn't find a way of working in it at all.  Maybe 
it's improved.  Can it handle tables better for example?

Many thanks

Andrew
> On 23 May 2016, at 21:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
> PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
> technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
> great experience reading them on Windows.
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Re: Editing an audio file.

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Give Audacity and try. It's not the easiest audio editor to work with, but it 
sure does the job

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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Jenine Stanley]

Scott, is there anything else that needs setting when giving both networks the 
same name? Sorry if I missed that. 

Hey, I’m not quite 1 of the 1% but creeping that way. I judge not. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On May 24, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Well, you say that now but when people find out I’m one of the 1% all bets 
> are off.:)
> 
> One more point on the 2.4 verses 5G thing that’s worth mentioning since you 
> mentioned issues.  The 2.4 signal carries further and penetrates walls better 
> etc but is slower.  The 5.0 GHZ can carry well but interacts with walls and 
> things more and provides more speed do to the literal higher bandwidth.  Now 
> there’s a lot of other factors here including the type of network (N, G, AC 
> etc) and a lot of other things that probably get to technical for this list 
> but the advantage to joining both networks with different names or having 
> both assigned the same name is your device can select the best frequency for 
> the conditions.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you so much for that excellent explanation. You are worth every penny 
>> they pay you for such things.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means 
>>> the network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other 
>>> than the default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern 
>>> routers you have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do 
>>> something like my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can 
>>> individually connect to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I 
>>> have all mine set to the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same 
>>> name and then the adapter figures out what’s best.
>>> 
>>> Make more sense?
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
>>> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to 
 the SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
> Will do that later on here.
> /A
>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
>> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>>> /A
 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 So yes and no.
 
 Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
 enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 
 GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 
 only it won’t work.
If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow 
 for WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available 
 over WiFi but calling is.
 
 Hope that helps.
 So
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
> to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
> my Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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win cloan

[jeff `greene]

Hi, I don't remember who was interested in this app to backup
bootcamp, but I heard from the developer. Apparently most buttons are
labeled, but they have a few voiceover users who have had some
problems. Russ from the developer advised me to give the basic version
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Probably later this week I'll give it a try and let the list know how it works.
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Editing an audio file.

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi,
I have an mp3 file that I would like to edit the end from.
I’m running Yosemite.
Can someone tell me how to do this with quick time or recommend a free 
accessable audio editor?
 
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Re: simple video editor

[Ray Foret jr]

By “Apple’s video editor”, do you mean imovie?

I seem to recall Chris posting here last night that in Screen Flow, the I key 
sets the in marker which I guess maybe sets the beginning point of a selection. 
 The letter O sets the out marker which determins the end point of a selection. 
 I guess maybe that you can move left or right either using left and right 
arrow keys or use the J key to move back, the K key to pause and the L key to 
move forwards.  Once you’ve got a point where you want to indicate the 
beginning of a selection, use the K key to pause and then the I key to drop the 
beginning marker.  Now, move to the point where you want the selection to end.  
once there, Press K to pause then use the O key to drop the out or end marker.  
Now, you can cut, paste and do pretty much what you want.  Is that right Chris?


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On May 24, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Seyoon Choi  wrote:
> 
> For my production on YouTube I record videos using Screenflow than edit with 
> Apple's video editor. I have both iMovie and Final Cut pro which in my 
> opinion seem to work best. VO is able to identify most but all helptag and 
> editing isn't too complicated. If anyone knows a way to use Screenflow's 
> built-in editor it would be nice to learn more about. Doing right on the 
> actual software will definitely eas up my video job as I won't have to export 
> my video twice from two separate editor than making its way to YouTube.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, some buttons remain unlabeled and have no help tags.  Also, the 
>> editing function seems to have no way to set in and out markers on the time 
>> line and the video downloader part needs a lot of work still because mainly 
>> of unlabeled buttons and controls and it seems not possible to select a 
>> number of videos for batch downloading as they claim can be done.  Do you 
>> use their apps?  If so, any tips you can offer would be helpful.  One thing 
>> I will give them is that as a converter, Total Video Converter can’t be beat 
>> because you can convert pretty much any video in to a format which can be 
>> watch or used.  So far as I can determine, though, you can’t convert an mp4 
>> so that it uses AAC instead of AC3 for the audio format.  That causes a 
>> problem for windows users because natively, windows player cannot handle 
>> AC3.  Not an issue for us Mac users, but, when I sent a friend who uses 
>> windows an mp4, he couldn’t play the audio.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Was wondering what you used to put that together.  The people who make 
>>> Total video Converter have just improved their product to what they say is 
>>> Voice OVer support but it seems minimal at best.  Still, it’s doable.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
 well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
 Youtube.
 ---
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 JAWS Certified, 2016.
 Training Instructor.
 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: simple video editor
 
 
 Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the 
 time I tried it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
> with that app.
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> 
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> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
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> To: "Mac Visionaries List" 

Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Donna Goodin]

Well, glad I could help you out for a change. :)  For what it's worth, our TV 
is also a Samsung.

Thanks for the network tips.  I have to get to work, but will mess around with 
that later on today.

Hope the TV volume thing works for you.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Whoa, that’s cool nd would be nice as I find the show audio low and VO hot.
> 
> I’m going to try this, thanks for the suggestion.
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> It's funny, last night, it did exactly what I would have expected.  When I 
>> press the button when VO is speaking, it modified that volume.  If I pressed 
>> it when a show was playing, it modified the TV volume.  That's exactly what 
>> I wanted it to do, so life is good.  I'm not sure why it wasn't doing that 
>> on Sunday, but I'm glad it's working now.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My TV and Apple TV has only ever modified the master TV volume.  If it 
>>> helps it’s a Samsung smart TV which does seem to support all the various 
>>> protocols over HDMI.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perhaps 
 on a different list.
 
 Anyway, the volume button, on my Apple TV, only adjust my television's 
 volume.
 
 Now when I first got my Apple TV, somehow, some way, I swear I was able to 
 adjust the unit's internal volume but only once or twice.  However, for 
 whatever reason, I can now only adjust the television volume, nothing more.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:20 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV
 
 Hi all,
 
 I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to 
 control Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of 
 the TV any more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that 
 button to adjust the television volume?  If so, how?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Under phone under settings on your 6s+, see if you have WiFi calling and if so 
enable it.

This enables the WiFi calling features on the watch.  For me I need this 
feature enabled, not sure if others have this issue.

Try that and let us know if it helps.  Others may have a better idea.

> On May 24, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I'm on the 2.4ghz network but my watch says disconnected when I turn 
> Bluetooth off. How do I go about fixing this?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you say that now but when people find out I’m one of the 1% all bets 
>> are off.:)
>> 
>> One more point on the 2.4 verses 5G thing that’s worth mentioning since you 
>> mentioned issues.  The 2.4 signal carries further and penetrates walls 
>> better etc but is slower.  The 5.0 GHZ can carry well but interacts with 
>> walls and things more and provides more speed do to the literal higher 
>> bandwidth.  Now there’s a lot of other factors here including the type of 
>> network (N, G, AC etc) and a lot of other things that probably get to 
>> technical for this list but the advantage to joining both networks with 
>> different names or having both assigned the same name is your device can 
>> select the best frequency for the conditions.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for that excellent explanation. You are worth every penny 
>>> they pay you for such things.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means 
 the network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other 
 than the default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern 
 routers you have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do 
 something like my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can 
 individually connect to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  
 I have all mine set to the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the 
 same name and then the adapter figures out what’s best.
 
 Make more sense?
 
 :)
 
 Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
 specifics.  I’m betting you have though
 
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to 
> the SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
>> Will do that later on here.
>> /A
>>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
>>> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, so here we have the sollution.
 I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
 So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
 /A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> So yes and no.
> 
> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
> enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 
> 5.0 GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 
> 5.0 only it won’t work.
>   If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over 
> WiFi but calling is.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> So
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
>> to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
>> my Iphone.
>> At least it tells me so.
>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>> Any thoughts
>> /AA
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Re: simple video editor

[Seyoon Choi]

For my production on YouTube I record videos using Screenflow than edit with 
Apple's video editor. I have both iMovie and Final Cut pro which in my opinion 
seem to work best. VO is able to identify most but all helptag and editing 
isn't too complicated. If anyone knows a way to use Screenflow's built-in 
editor it would be nice to learn more about. Doing right on the actual software 
will definitely eas up my video job as I won't have to export my video twice 
from two separate editor than making its way to YouTube.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Well, some buttons remain unlabeled and have no help tags.  Also, the editing 
> function seems to have no way to set in and out markers on the time line and 
> the video downloader part needs a lot of work still because mainly of 
> unlabeled buttons and controls and it seems not possible to select a number 
> of videos for batch downloading as they claim can be done.  Do you use their 
> apps?  If so, any tips you can offer would be helpful.  One thing I will give 
> them is that as a converter, Total Video Converter can’t be beat because you 
> can convert pretty much any video in to a format which can be watch or used.  
> So far as I can determine, though, you can’t convert an mp4 so that it uses 
> AAC instead of AC3 for the audio format.  That causes a problem for windows 
> users because natively, windows player cannot handle AC3.  Not an issue for 
> us Mac users, but, when I sent a friend who uses windows an mp4, he couldn’t 
> play the audio.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Was wondering what you used to put that together.  The people who make Total 
>> video Converter have just improved their product to what they say is Voice 
>> OVer support but it seems minimal at best.  Still, it’s doable.
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
>>> well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
>>> Youtube.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: simple video editor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time 
>>> I tried it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
 with that app.
 ---
 Christopher Gilland
 JAWS Certified, 2016.
 Training Instructor.
 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
 To: "Mac Visionaries List" 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
 Subject: simple video editor
 
 
 Okay,
 
 Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
 which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
 press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
 set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
 remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi Scott,

I'm on the 2.4ghz network but my watch says disconnected when I turn Bluetooth 
off. How do I go about fixing this?

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 24, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Well, you say that now but when people find out I’m one of the 1% all bets 
> are off.:)
> 
> One more point on the 2.4 verses 5G thing that’s worth mentioning since you 
> mentioned issues.  The 2.4 signal carries further and penetrates walls better 
> etc but is slower.  The 5.0 GHZ can carry well but interacts with walls and 
> things more and provides more speed do to the literal higher bandwidth.  Now 
> there’s a lot of other factors here including the type of network (N, G, AC 
> etc) and a lot of other things that probably get to technical for this list 
> but the advantage to joining both networks with different names or having 
> both assigned the same name is your device can select the best frequency for 
> the conditions.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you so much for that excellent explanation. You are worth every penny 
>> they pay you for such things.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means 
>>> the network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other 
>>> than the default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern 
>>> routers you have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do 
>>> something like my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can 
>>> individually connect to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I 
>>> have all mine set to the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same 
>>> name and then the adapter figures out what’s best.
>>> 
>>> Make more sense?
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
>>> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to 
 the SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
> Will do that later on here.
> /A
>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
>> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>>> /A
 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 So yes and no.
 
 Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
 enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 
 GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 
 only it won’t work.
If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
 WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over 
 WiFi but calling is.
 
 Hope that helps.
 So
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
> to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
> my Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Well, you say that now but when people find out I’m one of the 1% all bets are 
off.:)

One more point on the 2.4 verses 5G thing that’s worth mentioning since you 
mentioned issues.  The 2.4 signal carries further and penetrates walls better 
etc but is slower.  The 5.0 GHZ can carry well but interacts with walls and 
things more and provides more speed do to the literal higher bandwidth.  Now 
there’s a lot of other factors here including the type of network (N, G, AC 
etc) and a lot of other things that probably get to technical for this list but 
the advantage to joining both networks with different names or having both 
assigned the same name is your device can select the best frequency for the 
conditions.

Good luck.


> On May 24, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much for that excellent explanation. You are worth every penny 
> they pay you for such things.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means the 
>> network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other than the 
>> default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern routers you 
>> have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do something like 
>> my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can individually connect 
>> to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I have all mine set to 
>> the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same name and then the 
>> adapter figures out what’s best.
>> 
>> Make more sense?
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
>> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to the 
>>> SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Sorry for missunderstanding you.
 Will do that later on here.
 /A
> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>> /A
>>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> So yes and no.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
>>> enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 
>>> GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 
>>> only it won’t work.
>>> If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow 
>>> for WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over 
>>> WiFi but calling is.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> So
 On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
 to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
 When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
 my Iphone.
 At least it tells me so.
 So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
 This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
 Both devices uses the most up to date version.
 Any thoughts
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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Scott Granados]

Whoa, that’s cool nd would be nice as I find the show audio low and VO hot.

I’m going to try this, thanks for the suggestion.

> On May 24, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> It's funny, last night, it did exactly what I would have expected.  When I 
> press the button when VO is speaking, it modified that volume.  If I pressed 
> it when a show was playing, it modified the TV volume.  That's exactly what I 
> wanted it to do, so life is good.  I'm not sure why it wasn't doing that on 
> Sunday, but I'm glad it's working now.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> My TV and Apple TV has only ever modified the master TV volume.  If it helps 
>> it’s a Samsung smart TV which does seem to support all the various protocols 
>> over HDMI.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perhaps 
>>> on a different list.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, the volume button, on my Apple TV, only adjust my television's 
>>> volume.
>>> 
>>> Now when I first got my Apple TV, somehow, some way, I swear I was able to 
>>> adjust the unit's internal volume but only once or twice.  However, for 
>>> whatever reason, I can now only adjust the television volume, nothing more.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:20 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to 
>>> control Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of 
>>> the TV any more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that 
>>> button to adjust the television volume?  If so, how?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Jenine Stanley]

Thank you so much for that excellent explanation. You are worth every penny 
they pay you for such things. 
Jenine Stanley
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> On May 24, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means the 
> network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other than the 
> default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern routers you 
> have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do something like 
> my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can individually connect 
> to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I have all mine set to 
> the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same name and then the 
> adapter figures out what’s best.
> 
> Make more sense?
> 
> :)
> 
> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to the 
>> SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
>>> Will do that later on here.
>>> /A
 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
 and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
 
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
> /A
>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> So yes and no.
>> 
>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled 
>> on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The 
>> watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t 
>> work.
>>  If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
>> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi 
>> but calling is.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> So
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to 
>>> use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>>> Iphone.
>>> At least it tells me so.
>>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>>> Any thoughts
>>> /AA
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Jenine Stanley]

I wasn’t aware of the 2.4 versus 5gb wifi issue. Could explain some former 
inconsistencies here at home. At work, no problems. 
Jenine Stanley
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> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
> /A
>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> So yes and no.
>> 
>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled on 
>> the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The watch 
>> only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t work.
>>  If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
>> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi but 
>> calling is.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> So
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
>>> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>>> Iphone.
>>> At least it tells me so.
>>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>>> Any thoughts
>>> /AA
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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Donna Goodin]

It's funny, last night, it did exactly what I would have expected.  When I 
press the button when VO is speaking, it modified that volume.  If I pressed it 
when a show was playing, it modified the TV volume.  That's exactly what I 
wanted it to do, so life is good.  I'm not sure why it wasn't doing that on 
Sunday, but I'm glad it's working now.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 24, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> My TV and Apple TV has only ever modified the master TV volume.  If it helps 
> it’s a Samsung smart TV which does seem to support all the various protocols 
> over HDMI.
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perhaps on 
>> a different list.
>> 
>> Anyway, the volume button, on my Apple TV, only adjust my television's 
>> volume.
>> 
>> Now when I first got my Apple TV, somehow, some way, I swear I was able to 
>> adjust the unit's internal volume but only once or twice.  However, for 
>> whatever reason, I can now only adjust the television volume, nothing more.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:20 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
>> Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
>> more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
>> the television volume?  If so, how?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: TV for Apple TV

[Scott Granados]

There are, there still are options from small on up.  I’d definitely go flat 
screen if you can and I’m not sure your budget.  Amazon has good deals.  You 
can get a 40 inch Samsung 4K TV for about 500 bucks which means you can go far 
cheaper with fewer features and smaller screen.  Lots of options out there 
though.


> On May 23, 2016, at 6:51 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Been toying with the notion of replacing old TV with a new one. Only two 
> criteria to consider. One, for use with Apple TV and two, needs to have a 
> headphone jack. Perhaps 32 inch is big enough.
> 
>   Are there good choices out there where one can easily change inputs?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Scott Granados]

My TV and Apple TV has only ever modified the master TV volume.  If it helps 
it’s a Samsung smart TV which does seem to support all the various protocols 
over HDMI.



> On May 23, 2016, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perhaps on 
> a different list.
> 
> Anyway, the volume button, on my Apple TV, only adjust my television's volume.
> 
> Now when I first got my Apple TV, somehow, some way, I swear I was able to 
> adjust the unit's internal volume but only once or twice.  However, for 
> whatever reason, I can now only adjust the television volume, nothing more.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
> Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
> more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
> the television volume?  If so, how?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Ah you have an airport extreme, very good so do I so I can be helpful here.:)


Go in to network under the edit option and select wireless, under there you can 
see, I believe it’s under advanced the 2.4 and 5.0 network name, it’s probably 
the same  if you didn’t specifically define different names on setup.  Your 
airport utility though will show you what you need and it’s very safe / easy to 
look, just don’t click apply or ok and use the cancel to back out and you’re 
good.

Hope that helps.

> On May 24, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Scott.  OK, so you can tell it's been a long time since I set ours 
> up. lol   Can I assume, since I did not set up two SSIDs that my Airport 
> Extreme is using the same one?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means the 
>> network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other than the 
>> default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern routers you 
>> have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do something like 
>> my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can individually connect 
>> to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I have all mine set to 
>> the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same name and then the 
>> adapter figures out what’s best.
>> 
>> Make more sense?
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
>> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to the 
>>> SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Sorry for missunderstanding you.
 Will do that later on here.
 /A
> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
> and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>> /A
>>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> So yes and no.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling 
>>> enabled on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 
>>> GHZ.  The watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 
>>> only it won’t work.
>>> If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow 
>>> for WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over 
>>> WiFi but calling is.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> So
 On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible 
 to use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
 When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to 
 my Iphone.
 At least it tells me so.
 So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
 This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
 Both devices uses the most up to date version.
 Any thoughts
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Scott.  OK, so you can tell it's been a long time since I set ours up. 
lol   Can I assume, since I did not set up two SSIDs that my Airport Extreme is 
using the same one?
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means the 
> network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other than the 
> default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern routers you 
> have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do something like 
> my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can individually connect 
> to each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I have all mine set to 
> the same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same name and then the 
> adapter figures out what’s best.
> 
> Make more sense?
> 
> :)
> 
> Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
> specifics.  I’m betting you have though
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to the 
>> SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
>>> Will do that later on here.
>>> /A
 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 
 and your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
 
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
> /A
>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> So yes and no.
>> 
>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled 
>> on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The 
>> watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t 
>> work.
>>  If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
>> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi 
>> but calling is.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> So
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to 
>>> use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>>> Iphone.
>>> At least it tells me so.
>>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>>> Any thoughts
>>> /AA
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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Scott Granados]

While we’re on this topic.  Has anyone used a Mac pro, not a Macbook pro but A 
Mac Pro, the big daddy of desk tops.  Can I assume voice over works just the 
same on the pro as it does on the laptops and IMac?

I’m thinking about jumping in on this protools thing after what I’ve been 
reading now online and here and other list archives and since my assistant here 
is going whole hog in to video it might be worth justifying something with a  
pile of cores to run lots of plugins on as well as output in different video 
formats and such.  I smell over kill and maybe should go iMac but the pro is 
cool.:)  That’s a lot of cores.

> On May 23, 2016, at 11:32 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I hadn’t looked at the Ivory instruments that deeply since I was not 
> interested in them. Yes, I am familiar with the different formats.
> 
> Thanks for letting me know though. I was thinking they had an audio unit 
> version as well. Thanks for saving me the research. :) -And BTW, as others 
> have said, thanks for your work with Synthogy to get the presets into a 
> usable format for PT users.
> 
> Have a great evening!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> On May 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> There are no demos as far as I know.  Further, the issue is, the plugins are 
> not accessible out of the box, hince why custom presets have to be made. The 
> problem is, there is no way to take custom made exported presets from 
> ProTools, and load them up in logic.  They are two completely different 
> formats, and work totally differently.  Plus, the plugins wouldn't work cross 
> platform with the presets, even if you could! export the presets, as ProTools 
> uses the AAX I think they're called, where as Logic uses Audio units, so 
> totally different.  It would be kind of like trying to take an old RTas plug 
> from PT back in the days, and load it up in Cakewalk/Sonar/Reaper. It's just 
> not gonna happen.
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> - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
> To: 
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> Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I do not know, as I do not have the Ivory plugins but I can certainly try 
> them if there are demos.
> 
> I looked at them on the Synthogy site after I saw your posting on PTAccess 
> but since I already have several pianos I really like the sound of, I did not 
> purchase them.
> 
> I’ll see if there is a demo of some sort and try them in Logic.
> 
> Cheers!
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> wrote:
> 
> What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already, 
> for Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.
> 
> Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's 
> where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely would be nice 
> to have them in both.
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> - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
> To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX
> 
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I think this thread is fine. It is Mac-centric as it were, after all. :)
> 
> Just to add a bit at what Chris has been saying; Yes, both ProTools and Logic 
> Pro X are really the best options on Mac at this point.
> 
> I own both and also use both with outboard control surfaces / keyboards as 
> well as external sound modules etc.
> 
> I feel that ProTools is definitely more intuitive out of the box but having 
> said that, certain things are way easier to do with Logic and others are way 
> easier with ProTools.
> 
> So as long as you can afford ProTools I would also suggest that you get Logic 
> as well or at least try it out so you can judge for yourself.
> 
> One difference I have noticed between PT and Logic is that several plugins 
> seem to be more accessible in Logic than in PT. This does not mean they are 
> not usable to some degree in PT but they can be quite a bit more so in Logic.
> 
> One example is the M-Tron Pro plugin from G-Force software, which is an 
> amazingly comprehensive Mellotron (and other trons) sampler plugin.
> 
> In Logic all of the editing controls are available with Voiceover whereas in 
> PT 11 at least, these are not.
> 
> Hope this helps a 

Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Scott Granados]

Reality sucks, drugs help though.
:)

Seriously, you work with what you got as they say.  Nothing wrong with that at 
all.  I’m fat and happy now but I’ve been working at it for 30 years and 
definitely been way on the other end of that spectrum, to the point I had to 
steal electricity.  so no worries.

> On May 22, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> One thing that annoys me is that logic isn’t getting further beeing 
> accessible.
> Of course i could get reaper but what i want is logic with all its 
> instruments and such.
> This might sound very strange for you guys who seem able to afford such tools 
> as protools.
> But i don’t want to spend all my income per month on a musical creation tool.
> I just can’t.
> Sure if i had money i’d buy that but i have to face reallity.
> /A
>> On 20 May 2016, at 14:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I'll be really honest with you.  You know what I use hardware wise as far as 
>> an interface?  I just use a little 4 channel Alesis Multi-Mix 4.  Aside from 
>> it having USB interface, the whole rest of the thing is totally analog.  
>> It's absolutely beautiful!  And, they're dirt cheap, too!  Plus, as far as 
>> accessibility with the mac, just to keep this on topic, there's nothing to 
>> be accessible about it!  It just works.  I had an M-Audio Fast Tracks C400, 
>> which again was 4 channels, as I recall, but the control pannel software was 
>> totally! inaccessible with Voiceover.  I know a lot of blind people, like 
>> Brian Howerton, etc. who really, and I do mean, really! know their stuff who 
>> are using the Focusright Sapphire Pro lineup of interfaces and flipping 
>> swear by them!  I've never asked them how accessible the control pannel 
>> configuration utility is for them, although, I hear that supposedly with 
>> Voiceover, it's pretty rock solid.
>> 
>> As for a control surface, obviously, the Apogy is really really killer, but 
>> then, for most average home consumers just getting started, as myself, who 
>> are more low end professionals, it would probably be overkill.  Well, and, 
>> plus, they're like, 5 grand, so, ehh, um, werpse?  ee yeah.  Now, Digidesign 
>> back in the days, made a gorgeous! and I do mean, gorgeous! interface that 
>> also was combined as a control surface, and it's software was phenominally 
>> accessible!  That was the Digi03.  Oh God! that thing was sweet!  
>> Unfortunately, it's not made anymore.  I would freaking kill! for one a 
>> those things though!  And, back when they were around, they were only like, 
>> $130 or so.  Right now, I'm using a presonus Faderport for the control 
>> surface.  In logic, or Reaper, forget it!  I never could get the darn thing 
>> to work.  I tried and tried, but it just! will, not do it.  For all intense 
>> and purpose, the software that comes with it is accessible, although there 
>> really isn't much anything useful in it that you'd really wanna do.  It's 
>> mainly just a driver.  You can update its firmware, which is totally 
>> Voiceover friendly, but that's about it.  I mean, that's about it, period.  
>> I don't mean that's all that is accessible.  I'm saying, that's literally 
>> all the software really does, so nothing to really write home about.  It 
>> does work though.  In ProTools however, this device works almost, if not 
>> totally, perfectly.  I think there were maybe one or two buttons I had to 
>> remap, but for the most part, I'd say 99 percent, it worked right out of the 
>> box.  I don't even remember initially installing the driver.  You can, yeah, 
>> but it's really not necessary.
>> 
>> Anyway, this is kind of very very gradually starting to veer from the topic 
>> of the mac and Voiceover, so let's try to be really careful with this 
>> thread.  I don't wanna be the enemy here of allowing it to go OT.  We're not 
>> there yet, but I fear it's on its way there.  LOL!  I think for now, we're 
>> OK, but I'd just be careful, as admittedly, this kind of is a bit of a grey 
>> area.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi Chris,

Do you have a tutorial for the older version of iTunes? I don't have
version 12.4 and can't upgrade to it because my os is too old.

Thanks,
Kimber

On 5/23/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> You may want to have a look at my Youtube channel, as I did an extremely
> comprehensive walkthrough recently on ITunes, and how to navigate the music
>
> area.
>
> You'll find the video on my channel, which is at:
>
> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com
>
> HTH.
>
> Chris.
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:53 AM
> Subject: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'm new to the list and pretty much a novice to the Mac though I've
>> had an iPhone for the past four years.
>>
>> I have an older MacAir running Lion which I want to use to stream
>> content from my iTunes library and Apple music. My problem is I'm
>> unable to locate the particular artist, album or playlist I want to
>> play. I have been able to get content to play, but it seems more by
>> luck than skill. Here's what happens.
>>
>> I have my iTunes displayed by artist. But when I get into the -- I
>> guess it's the table? -- where the content is shown, all I see is how
>> many albums or songs I have by each artist but not the names of the
>> artists.
>>
>> If someone could give me some basic steps for navigating around iTunes
>> and accessing my content I would be very grateful.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Scott Granados]

I have to say, I like the air 2.  I am using one as the front end controller on 
one of my drones and it’s pretty snappy and rock solid.  The network support is 
also quite good.  It doesn’t have the lower bands that the pro has that my 
carrier supports but luckily where I’ve used it had good high band service and 
I can stream right from my drone to youtube etc.  Cool stuff.  Big fan of the 
air 2.

> On May 24, 2016, at 4:48 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Simon, hello.
> 
> Was considering using it as a writing tool via way of the smart keyboard.
> 
> I’ve just thus listened to an audio demonstration by David Woodbridge and 
> said keyboard sounds awful.
> 
> No dedicated Mac keys like CMD etc.
> 
> Most likely will go with a nice keyboard case to compliment the Air 2.
> 
> Best wishes.
> 
>> On 24 May 2016, at 6:07 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sadam
>> 
>> What would you upgrade to?
>> 
>> As for smart keyboard,
>> There are a lot of keyboard options out that would work well with the air 2,
>> 
>> A number of folio cases as well with built in keyboards.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
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>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPad Pro 9.7inch.
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I currently have the iPad Air 2.
>> 
>> Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?
>> 
>> Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?
>> 
>> Thanks for any feedback.
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Dona, SSID is a fancy word that keeps people like me employed.  It means the 
network name, so if you’ve set your network name to something other than the 
default NetGear or DLink you’ve changed your SSID.:)  On modern routers you 
have a separate field for 2.4 and 5.0 ghz and many people do something like 
my-home-network-24g and my-home-network-5g so they can individually connect to 
each.  This is fine but won’t support the watch.  I have all mine set to the 
same so whether you join 2.4 or 5.0 it’s the same name and then the adapter 
figures out what’s best.

Make more sense?

:)

Let me know if you haven’t changed your network name and would like more 
specifics.  I’m betting you have though

> On May 24, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to the 
> SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
>> Will do that later on here.
>> /A
>>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 and 
>>> your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>>> 
 On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, so here we have the sollution.
 I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
 So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
 /A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> So yes and no.
> 
> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled 
> on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The 
> watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t 
> work.
>   If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi 
> but calling is.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> So
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to 
>> use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>> Iphone.
>> At least it tells me so.
>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>> Any thoughts
>> /AA
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Anders,

I was very intrigued when the SE came out.  Just curious, how are you liking 
it?  Other than the battery issue, do you prefer it over the 6S?  Anything you 
liked better on the 6S?

I know a lot of that is subjective, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> My 6S had to be charged evry day.
> Thats why i bought an Iphone Se.
> /A
>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 13:55 skrev Jenine Stanley :
>> 
>> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some reason 
>> my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. I’m also 
>> using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have the wifi 
>> mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal.  
>> 
>> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
>> battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
>> match the drain I’m experiencing. 
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Scott Granados]

Mary, great suggestion, John does good work!

> On May 24, 2016, at 12:44 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> There is also the website mac for the blind which has tutorials, and the 
> website owner does training.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  > wrote:
> 
>> Hey Chris. That's awesome you're getting a Mac. Chris G isn't the only one 
>> that does training. I offer training as well. I don't have stuff on Youtube 
>> but my offer is there too.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cris
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>>> Gilland
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>> 
>>> My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
>>> Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, 
>>> if it be needed.
>>> 
>>> My Youtube channel can be found at:
>>> 
>>> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com 
>>> 
>>> The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
>>> would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and 
>>> yes, it will open all the formats that you menhtion.
>>> ---
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>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message -
 From: Cris Ali 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
 Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie
 
 Hello folks,
 
 I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
 mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram. 
  The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
 
 I have a number of questions however:
 
 First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
 switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices. 
  If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual 
 users of OSX deal with this issue?
 
 Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
 something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office 
 accessible?
 
 Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
 myself for the time when I get my computer?
 
 Your help will be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Scott Granados]

+1 to Chris’s and Sean’s training, also BlindcoolTech had some podcasts from 
Mike Erigo that were very good.  I used one on Voice Over and another on VM 
Fusion to get myself started on the mac.


> On May 24, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris. That's awesome you're getting a Mac. Chris G isn't the only one 
> that does training. I offer training as well. I don't have stuff on Youtube 
> but my offer is there too.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
>> Cheers,
>> Cris
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>> 
>> My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
>> Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, 
>> if it be needed.
>> 
>> My Youtube channel can be found at:
>> 
>> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com 
>> 
>> The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
>> would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, 
>> it will open all the formats that you menhtion.
>> ---
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>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Cris Ali 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
>>> Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
>>> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
>>> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
>>> 
>>> I have a number of questions however:
>>> 
>>> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
>>> switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  
>>> If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual 
>>> users of OSX deal with this issue?
>>> 
>>> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
>>> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
>>> 
>>> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
>>> myself for the time when I get my computer?
>>> 
>>> Your help will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Cris
>>> 
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Donna Goodin]

OK, maybe this is a dumb question, but I've never paid any attention to the 
SSID.  How do you set them up to use the same one?
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 24, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Sorry for missunderstanding you.
> Will do that later on here.
> /A
>> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 and 
>> your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>>> /A
 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 So yes and no.
 
 Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled 
 on the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The 
 watch only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t 
 work.
If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
 WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi 
 but calling is.
 
 Hope that helps.
 So
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to 
> use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
> Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Scott Granados]

Chris, way to go, nice machine and the advantage of buying higher on the scale 
is your machine will last you a long time.  I still have Macbook pro laptops in 
service in my family from 2011.

As far as the word processing goes, I like pages myself.  It’s included and has 
the ability to read and export MS Word files with out any issue. I use it at 
work all the time.


Good luck and nice choice.

> On May 23, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
> I have a number of questions however:
> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching? 
>  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice 
> over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX 
> deal with this issue?
> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
> myself for the time when I get my computer?
> Your help will be appreciated.
> Regards,
> Cris
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Sorry for missunderstanding you.
Will do that later on here.
/A
> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 and 
> your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
>> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
>> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
>> /A
>>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> So yes and no.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled on 
>>> the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The watch 
>>> only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t work.
>>> If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
>>> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi 
>>> but calling is.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> So
 On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to 
 use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
 When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
 Iphone.
 At least it tells me so.
 So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
 This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
 Both devices uses the most up to date version.
 Any thoughts
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Re: Focus Blue 40 braille display not working on the Mac computer when using Bluetooth

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t think they understand what we are talking about.
For now i have given up on their accessibility team.
I don’t have the strength due to personal problems.
Maybe later but its frustrating to read all thank you and we appreciate 
messages.
/A
> 24 maj 2016 kl. 14:12 skrev sadam ahmed :
> 
> 
> It kind of seems braille support on the Mac is a bit of an after thought. 
> 
> iOS works quite well. 
> 
> People have given feedback but it continues to be horrible. 
> 
> I just hope things improve in the next version of the OS. 
> 
> On 24/05/2016 6:41 AM, Walkaway Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hello Anne.
>> 
>> Sorry for the late reply.  I did do what you suggested months ago but it 
>> still kept happening, the combination of letters which I tried to do timed 
>> out.  However, I’m waiting for more improvements re braille on the Mac but 
>> so far nothing is happening yet about braille.  I wish it would.  I wish 
>> braille on the Mac was as good as braille on the I devices.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 22 May 2016, at 10:30, Anne Robertson < 
>>> a...@anarchie.org.uk 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Kawal,
>>> 
>>> Here’s a suggestion how to make it work.
>>> Position your left hand on the computer keyboard with your little finger on 
>>> the Command key and your index finger on the letter ‘b’. Place your right 
>>> hand on your Braille display. In this way, you only have to bring your left 
>>> hand to your right hand after pressing Cmd-b and you should have time to 
>>> press the key combination you want.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 May 2016, at 10:16, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:
 
 Hello Anne.
 
 That is my problem, I am not quick enough to sign the commands. It times 
 out because I am too slow.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21 May 2016, at 6:56 pm, Anne Robertson > wrote:
 
> Hello Kawal,
> To assign a command on a Braille display, press the Assign command 
> button, then press the Add button.
> Press Cmd-b then quickly press the key combination on your Braille device 
> that you wish to use. You’ll then find a menu button where you can select 
> the appropriate action.
> 
> You have to be quick putting in the key combination on your Braille 
> display as you only have 5 seconds and the computer makes a sort of 
> clanging noise for the whole time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 May 2016, at 08:58, Kawal Gucukoglu < 
>> kgli...@icloud.com 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Last time I tried to assign commands, I could not do it.  If someone can 
>> explain how to do it please then that would be hhelpful as I’d like to 
>> use my braille display with the Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 May 2016, at 00:10, David Chittenden < 
>>> dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Braille displays are highly customiseable on the Mac. Have you looked 
>>> at the table of commands for your braille display?
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email:  dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 20 May 2016, at 07:08, Kawal Gucukoglu < 
>>> kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 Are you connection your braille display through the Voice Utility 
 menu?  You can’t connect it directly through the Bluetooth menu.  You 
 need to select the Voice Utility, VO F8 and arrow down until you get 
 to braille.  I have just connected my Focus 40 Blue to make sure and 
 it works although i find braille on the mac not very useful.  I wish 
 it was but thus far no work is being done to change this.  Just my 
 opinion.
 
 Kawal.
> On 19 May 2016, at 19:58, Scott Berry < 
> sb356...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> Is anyone else having problems still with the Focus 40 Blue display 
> not working in bluetooth mode on the Mac?
> 
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Scott Granados]

+1 to this, I don’t use my phone as a phone either.  I communicate over other 
applications over the network if I use voice for the most part and it’s mostly 
about the data services for me.  The phone these days is the least thought out 
weakest part of the device.:)

> On May 23, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Wow, I am pretty much just the opposite, using my phone for just about 
> everything but a phone lately. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 2:26 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Since I still view my iPhone as a phone, I do not use it heavily. Main use 
>> at the moment is phone calls and text messaging. I could probably go 2-3 
>> days before the charge drops below 20%. But generally, I rarely let it go 
>> below 75% in case of major storms or other natural disasters such as 
>> earthquakes so I charge it at least every other night.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 5/23/2016 10:58 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>> Thanks much. About how long does your battery last before getting down to, 
>>> say, 10%?
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 10:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone when 
 I am not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I have most 
 apps set to never use data if there is no wifi.
 
 This article may provide more ideas.
 
 
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
> Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button 
> reset.
> 
> I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This 
> sucks one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help 
> significantly.
> 
> I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long 
> meeting and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.
> 
> My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. 
> I’ve got a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does 
> drain battery.
> 
> Then to tackle the data issue.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jenine,
>> 
>> Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?
>> 
>> Sometimes that can cause problems.
>> 
>> You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's 
>> not software related.
>> 
>> After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store 
>> is in order.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some 
>>> reason my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming 
>>> rate. I’m also using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the 
>>> settings and have the wifi mode turned off that uses data when there’s 
>>> a weak celular signal.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into 
>>> the battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t 
>>> seem to match the drain I’m experiencing.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Why not use the same SSID on 5.0 and 2.4, your phone will auto join 5.0 and 
your watch 2.4 and things work nicely.  This is what i do at home.

> On May 24, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so here we have the sollution.
> I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
> So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
> /A
>> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> So yes and no.
>> 
>> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled on 
>> the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The watch 
>> only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t work.
>>  If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
>> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi but 
>> calling is.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> So
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
>>> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>>> Iphone.
>>> At least it tells me so.
>>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>>> Any thoughts
>>> /AA
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Chris, you don’t, it mirrors your settings on the phone and you have to have 
the following caveats in place. (same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 ghz or 2.4 ghz only, 
no security other than PSK, and you have to have joined the SSID)

Hope that helps.

> On May 23, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, this is new news to me.  Where does one then go to connect the watch to 
> wifi?  I never saw that under settings on the watch, nor in the watch app on 
> the phone.  What am I missing?
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> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.
> 
> 
> Hi. With Bluetooth off, yes, the watch still communicate over Wi-Fi. You'll 
> be able to do things like send messages, check email, you Siri. You won't be 
> able to ping the iPhone however.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
>> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>> Iphone.
>> At least it tells me so.
>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>> Any thoughts
>> /AA
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

It’s not something Apple talks about much but yes, WiFi is available.  It’s 
secondary to bluetooth and only kicks in when bluetooth isn’t available but 
it’s definitely in there.  Probably signs of things to come.

> On May 23, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> I was under the impression that the Apple Watch uses Bluetooth, not wifi.
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> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:19 AM
> Subject: Apple Watch on Wifi.
> 
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
> Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I’d say well it depends on the pdf-s.
I have some manuals here i can read with preview.
I haven’t tried Adobe since i don’t like their products on windows either.
/A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 20:36 skrev Jonathan C. Cohn :
> 
> Unfortunately, yes.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
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>> On May 23, 2016, at 1:52 PM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
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>> All,
>> 
>> 
>> A while ago Adobe was touting accessibility for there DC product.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm guessing that PDF access is as bad as ever?
>> 
>> 
>> This is why I hang on to my PC.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope something is done regarding this in Mac OS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: Focus Blue 40 braille display not working on the Mac computer when using Bluetooth

[sadam ahmed]

It kind of seems braille support on the Mac is a bit of an after thought.

iOS works quite well.

People have given feedback but it continues to be horrible.

I just hope things improve in the next version of the OS.

On 24/05/2016 6:41 AM, Walkaway Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Anne.

Sorry for the late reply.  I did do what you suggested months ago but 
it still kept happening, the combination of letters which I tried to 
do timed out.  However, I’m waiting for more improvements re braille 
on the Mac but so far nothing is happening yet about braille.  I wish 
it would.  I wish braille on the Mac was as good as braille on the I 
devices.


Kawal.
On 22 May 2016, at 10:30, Anne Robertson > wrote:


Hello Kawal,

Here’s a suggestion how to make it work.
Position your left hand on the computer keyboard with your little 
finger on the Command key and your index finger on the letter ‘b’. 
Place your right hand on your Braille display. In this way, you only 
have to bring your left hand to your right hand after pressing Cmd-b 
and you should have time to press the key combination you want.


Cheers,

Anne



On 22 May 2016, at 10:16, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:


Hello Anne.

That is my problem, I am not quick enough to sign the commands. It 
times out because I am too slow.


Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 May 2016, at 6:56 pm, Anne Robertson > wrote:



Hello Kawal,
To assign a command on a Braille display, press the Assign command 
button, then press the Add button.
Press Cmd-b then quickly press the key combination on your Braille 
device that you wish to use. You’ll then find a menu button where 
you can select the appropriate action.


You have to be quick putting in the key combination on your Braille 
display as you only have 5 seconds and the computer makes a sort of 
clanging noise for the whole time.


Cheers,

Anne



On 20 May 2016, at 08:58, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:


Last time I tried to assign commands, I could not do it.  If 
someone can explain how to do it please then that would be 
hhelpful as I’d like to use my braille display with the Mac.


Thanks.

Kawal.
On 20 May 2016, at 00:10, David Chittenden > wrote:


Braille displays are highly customiseable on the Mac. Have you 
looked at the table of commands for your braille display?


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 20 May 2016, at 07:08, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:



Hi.

Are you connection your braille display through the Voice 
Utility menu?  You can’t connect it directly through the 
Bluetooth menu.  You need to select the Voice Utility, VO F8 and 
arrow down until you get to braille.  I have just connected my 
Focus 40 Blue to make sure and it works although i find braille 
on the mac not very useful.  I wish it was but thus far no work 
is being done to change this.  Just my opinion.


Kawal.
On 19 May 2016, at 19:58, Scott Berry > wrote:


Hello there,

Is anyone else having problems still with the Focus 40 Blue 
display not working in bluetooth mode on the Mac?



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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, so here we have the sollution.
I use 5ghz wifi for my Iphone which i prefer over 2.4 ghz.
So i guess i will have to use bluetooth anyway.
/A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> So yes and no.
> 
> Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled on 
> the phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The watch 
> only works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t work.
>   If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
> WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi but 
> calling is.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> So
>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
>> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>> Iphone.
>> At least it tells me so.
>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>> Any thoughts
>> /AA
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
THe strange thing is that it does not work for me.
I see if a restart will fix the problem.
/A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 15:29 skrev Daniel Miller :
> 
> Hi. With Bluetooth off, yes, the watch still communicate over Wi-Fi. You'll 
> be able to do things like send messages, check email, you Siri. You won't be 
> able to ping the iPhone however.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
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>> 
>> Hi!
>> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
>> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
>> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
>> Iphone.
>> At least it tells me so.
>> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
>> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
>> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
>> Any thoughts
>> /AA
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
My 6S had to be charged evry day.
Thats why i bought an Iphone Se.
/A
> 23 maj 2016 kl. 13:55 skrev Jenine Stanley :
> 
> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some reason 
> my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. I’m also 
> using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have the wifi 
> mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal.  
> 
> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
> battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
> match the drain I’m experiencing. 
> 
> Thoughts?
> Jenine Stanley
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Re: simple video editor

[Ray Foret jr]

Well, some buttons remain unlabeled and have no help tags.  Also, the editing 
function seems to have no way to set in and out markers on the time line and 
the video downloader part needs a lot of work still because mainly of unlabeled 
buttons and controls and it seems not possible to select a number of videos for 
batch downloading as they claim can be done.  Do you use their apps?  If so, 
any tips you can offer would be helpful.  One thing I will give them is that as 
a converter, Total Video Converter can’t be beat because you can convert pretty 
much any video in to a format which can be watch or used.  So far as I can 
determine, though, you can’t convert an mp4 so that it uses AAC instead of AC3 
for the audio format.  That causes a problem for windows users because 
natively, windows player cannot handle AC3.  Not an issue for us Mac users, 
but, when I sent a friend who uses windows an mp4, he couldn’t play the audio.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On May 23, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Was wondering what you used to put that together.  The people who make Total 
> video Converter have just improved their product to what they say is Voice 
> OVer support but it seems minimal at best.  Still, it’s doable.
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
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> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
>> well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
>> Youtube.
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>> Training Instructor.
>> 
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>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: simple video editor
>> 
>> 
>> Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time 
>> I tried it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
>>> with that app.
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>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
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>>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>>> To: "Mac Visionaries List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: simple video editor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> 
>>> Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
>>> which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
>>> press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
>>> set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
>>> remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Devin Prater]

Also, if you don’t feel like paying for training, apples.com has plenty of 
guides and podcasts, and there’s always this list to ask questions on.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com



> On May 23, 2016, at 11:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> There is also the website mac for the blind which has tutorials, and the 
> website owner does training.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  > wrote:
> 
>> Hey Chris. That's awesome you're getting a Mac. Chris G isn't the only one 
>> that does training. I offer training as well. I don't have stuff on Youtube 
>> but my offer is there too.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cris
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>>> Gilland
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>>  
>>> My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
>>> Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, 
>>> if it be needed.
>>>  
>>> My Youtube channel can be found at:
>>>  
>>> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com 
>>>  
>>> The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
>>> would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and 
>>> yes, it will open all the formats that you menhtion.
>>> ---
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>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cris Ali 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
 Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie
  
 Hello folks,
 
 I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
 mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram. 
  The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
 
 I have a number of questions however:
 
 First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
 switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices. 
  If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual 
 users of OSX deal with this issue?
 
 Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
 something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office 
 accessible?
 
 Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
 myself for the time when I get my computer?
 
 Your help will be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Cris
 
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Re: simple video editor

[Scott Berry]

Hey ray,

I wonder what you mean by minimal.  If you can explain that more I’ll go back 
to them and ask them to make more changes.


> On May 23, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Was wondering what you used to put that together.  The people who make Total 
> video Converter have just improved their product to what they say is Voice 
> OVer support but it seems minimal at best.  Still, it’s doable.
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
>> well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
>> Youtube.
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>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: simple video editor
>> 
>> 
>> Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time 
>> I tried it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
>>> with that app.
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>>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>>> To: "Mac Visionaries List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: simple video editor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> 
>>> Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
>>> which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
>>> press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
>>> set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
>>> remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I don’t want to offend in any way but what do you think is so great about the 
Bluez2 S?
The sound is beyond horrible, with only midrange and no bass nor treble 
whatsoever, the only thing that sounds decent are phone calls and here we have 
another interesting issue: While on a phone call I can never be sure that the 
person on the other end hears me. The slightest movement of your head and the 
microphone goes out of wack. Plus at least for my head they sit painfully 
tight. I don’t know if i’m doing something wrong and what that wrong can be to 
get these results from my Bluez 2 S but this is what i experience.
/Krister

> 24 maj 2016 kl. 00:38 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :
> 
> Why not look at the Aftershokz Bluez 2S as I have suggested upon countless 
> upon countless of times.
> 
> http://www.aftershokz.com
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> - Original Message - From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" 
> 
> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> Subject: Bluetooth headset
> 
> 
>> Hi:
>> Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good 
>> stareo sound?
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Computer repeatedly trying to connect to bluetooth speaker

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi All,

I have a Bluetooth speaker that I like to use when I listen to music
on my Mac. Sometimes however, I don't want to route the sound through
the speaker like when I'm doing just normal tasks. At these times the
computer is continually trying to connect to the speaker and throwing
an error telling me it can't connect. How can I stop it from trying to
connect automatically, short of unpairing the speaker altogether.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Simon, 

Here you go: 

https://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen-ios . 

For some strange reason couldn’t  find it in the Mac App Store. 

Will purchase ASAp. 

Thanks, 

> On 24 May 2016, at 6:31 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Do you know if there is a version of this PDF tool for the IOS platform such 
> as I can get it on my iPad?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016 3:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: State of PDF accessibility?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> PDFPenPro works well for filling out forms.  The limitation though would be 
> on whether the pdf creator spent any time labelling the form fields.  If they 
> are not labelled, it is rather difficult to determine what data to enter into 
> which field.  Not always can you even use tab order if the pdf creator didn't 
> set those up properly either.  All that said, a properly labelled and tagged 
> pdf form is a dream to dill out in PDFPenPro.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 17:48, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Forget about Adobe it's a joke to say the least.
> 
> As Tim has stated PDF Pen Pro is quite good for more complex things.
> 
> Haven't got it yet but it's on my app list.
> 
> On 24/05/2016 8:55 AM, Percy Garrett wrote:
>> Hi, how do you fill out pdf forms? Should I download Adobe or some other app 
>> or software? Thanks!
>> Percy Garrett
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: State of PDF accessibility?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
>> PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
>> technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
>> great experience reading them on Windows.
>> 
>> Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.
>> 
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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Simon, hello. 

Was considering using it as a writing tool via way of the smart keyboard. 

I’ve just thus listened to an audio demonstration by David Woodbridge and said 
keyboard sounds awful. 

No dedicated Mac keys like CMD etc. 

Most likely will go with a nice keyboard case to compliment the Air 2. 

Best wishes. 

> On 24 May 2016, at 6:07 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sadam 
> 
> What would you upgrade to?
> 
> As for smart keyboard,
> There are a lot of keyboard options out that would work well with the air 2,
> 
> A number of folio cases as well with built in keyboards.
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
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> Subject: iPad Pro 9.7inch.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I currently have the iPad Air 2.
> 
> Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?
> 
> Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?
> 
> Thanks for any feedback.
> 
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RE: State of PDF accessibility?

[Simon Fogarty]

Tim,

 Do you know if there is a version of this PDF tool for the IOS platform such 
as I can get it on my iPad?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016 3:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: State of PDF accessibility?

Hi,

PDFPenPro works well for filling out forms.  The limitation though would be on 
whether the pdf creator spent any time labelling the form fields.  If they are 
not labelled, it is rather difficult to determine what data to enter into which 
field.  Not always can you even use tab order if the pdf creator didn't set 
those up properly either.  All that said, a properly labelled and tagged pdf 
form is a dream to dill out in PDFPenPro.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2016, at 17:48, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:


Forget about Adobe it's a joke to say the least.

As Tim has stated PDF Pen Pro is quite good for more complex things.

Haven't got it yet but it's on my app list.

On 24/05/2016 8:55 AM, Percy Garrett wrote:
> Hi, how do you fill out pdf forms? Should I download Adobe or some other app 
> or software? Thanks!
> Percy Garrett
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:48 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: State of PDF accessibility?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
> PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
> technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
> great experience reading them on Windows.
> 
> Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.
> 

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RE: Adding to iTunes

[Simon Fogarty]

Edit the meta data of the content of the folder so it sorts them into another 
folder under the name of Jimmy Hendrix,

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On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016 2:08 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Adding to iTunes

>> In iTunes 12.4.0.1189 I am trying to add the artist “Jimi Hendrix”, Alblum 
>> "WestCoastSeattleBoy-TheJimiHendrixAnthology[4CD-DVD]Disc_1” and song "01 - 
>> The Isley Brothers & Jimi Hendrix - Testify (Parts 1 & 2).mp3”. No matter 
>> what I do, "01 - The Isley Brothers & Jimi Hendrix - Testify (Parts 1 & 
>> 2).mp3” appears in the "Isley Brothers & Jimi Hendrix” folder “ and not in 
>> the “Jimi Hendrix folder. How do I get ”01 - The Isley Brothers & Jimi 
>> Hendrix - Testify (Parts 1 & 2).mp3” appear in the “Jimi Hendrix” folder? 
>> Thank you.

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RE: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm wondering about this myself as I can't find a wifi feature in my apple 
watch?!

Apart from the sync with the phone it's only showing Bluetooth.

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Subject: Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

I was under the impression that the Apple Watch uses Bluetooth, not wifi.
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To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:19 AM
Subject: Apple Watch on Wifi.


Hi!
Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
Iphone.
At least it tells me so.
So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
Both devices uses the most up to date version.
Any thoughts
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RE: voiceover quits speaking

[Simon Fogarty]

I get the same thing happening in Yosemite on a work machine, 

 I've figured out though that it's a virtual box VM that we have setup for a 
windows 7 vm.

 Something to do with the VB interface not working well with voiceover.

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Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016 9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: voiceover quits speaking

I meant Command F5.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/23/2016 2:05 PM, E.T. wrote:
>No ideas except to keep using Command F6 until it gets fixed. Which 
> I had hoped was in the latest update.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
>
> On 5/23/2016 1:53 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> Hi:
>> I have a MBP 2010 running the latest version of el capitan. Voiceover 
>> will stop speaking. I have to press command f5 to turn vo on and off.
>> Some times I have to force a shut down. Any ideas?
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>
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RE: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Sadam 

What would you upgrade to?

 As for smart keyboard,
 There are a lot of keyboard options out that would work well with the air 2,

 A number of folio cases as well with built in keyboards.

 

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Subject: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

Hi all,

I currently have the iPad Air 2.

Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?

Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?

Thanks for any feedback.

Sadam Ahmed

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RE: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

Yeah it’s almost to touch sensitive
I have to put my remote on the shelf with the tv to keep it out of the road.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016 1:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

Hi Simon,

Well, since Saturday, no mysterious TV going on and off here.  I do know what 
you mean, though, about accidentally invoking the touch surface.  Last night we 
were watching TV, and I reached over the remote to pick something up off the 
table.  I guess I was too close to the remote, because it stopped the TV show, 
and took us into some kind of media menu or something.  That'll take some 
getting used to.  With the old remote, it was really hard to accidentally do 
anything.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 23, 2016, at 1:55 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Yeah Donna,

I’ve been getting up in the morning to find my tv on, and I know that I turned 
it off the night before,

So there are two things I’m now aware of in the way of the apple tv forth gen,

1.   I’ve got a neighbour with an apple tv that is awake in the middle of 
the night watching their tv,
2. If my remote is in the wrong place when I sit on the couch, and I 
either knock it or put my hand on it, I can turn the tv on by mistake,
I know that I’ve turned it on in this case because my tv makes a noise when it 
is turned on and off,

As for the neighbour,
 I’ve got a couple of Asian neighbours around here so possibly they are up 
surfing the net or talking with the home planet due to time differences.

Oh and your old remote will turn it on also.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 1:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no apparent 
reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors too.  I wonder how 
it is that that happens?
Cheers,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple tv 
on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an apple tv 
that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.

I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
like a charm.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin 
> wrote:
Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the upgrade, 
even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin 
> wrote:

Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.

Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
TIA,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the Apple 
TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
what you meant, is it?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin 
> wrote:
Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)

We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)

One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
does it need to be