Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Scott Granados]

Well, there are many in the French society who would disagree with you but I 
don’t blaim you at all for your position if that was your life experience.  
Wow, I’m not sure what to say about your healthcare comments other than I’m 
glad I can buy what I need and nobody says no.  Sounds like a ringing rebuke of 
socialized healthcare to me but that might be the rightwinger in me overstating 
the case.  Honestly from some of the comments I’ve heard privately lately I’m 
not sure the UK has a very strong ground to stand on when it comes to the 
treatment of it’s blind citizens but hey, does anyone?  Can we claim to be much 
better, I might think so but others will have valid points why not so I don’t 
know.

 

 

 

 

 

From:  on behalf of Anne Robertson 

Reply-To: 
Date: Friday, June 24, 2016 at 1:12 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

 

Hello Scott and everyone,

 

Well, the Leave camp has won and I shall now apply for French citizenship. 
France has been good to me over the years. The French health care system treats 
me like a valuable member of society, whereas the British health service 
treated me as worthless and would happily have just let me die of kidney 
failure because I’m blind. I’m alive and well today because 15 years ago, I had 
a liver and kidney transplant here in France, so part of my body is already 
French I suppose.

 

As for Britain liberating itself from the influence of multinational 
corporations – that is certainly not the case. The Tory party is well and truly 
in bed with big business and now they’ll be free to walk all over the low-paid 
workers.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 24 Jun 2016, at 06:22, Scott Granados  wrote:

 

Don’t be so quick to buy the official version of that MP being murdered.  It 
was a horrible thing but I’m not convinced it was entirely as sold on the news 
either.  I think in some cases the unhinged are pushd by some with in the power 
structure to do what they do.  There’s real indications of trickery in the mass 
shootings in the US being used to totally subvert our constitution, I suspect  
something similar there.

 

That being said, if the French won’t have you we’d love to.  Granted there’s 
way to much paperwork to get in to our country but if you’re ready for a 5 year 
slog we’d happily take you.:)

What ever country you decide, they will be lucky to have you.  Just don’t sell 
your British citizenship short but do what you must.

 

 

 

From:  on behalf of Anne Robertson 

Reply-To: 
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 12:12 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

 

I’m desperately hoping for the Remain vote to win. I no longer have a vote in 
Britain as I’ve lived in France for 33 years, but if the Leave side wins, I’ll 
be applying for French citizenship.

 

The MP who was murdered was from my home area and had been headgirl at the 
grammar school I attended after opting out of the special education system. She 
was much younger than me, so I never knew her, but I felt a certain connection 
to her and was horrified by what happened.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

 

Hi Scott and whoever is interested.

 

I cast my vote earlier today.  using a tactile Braille template.  I am now just 
anxious about the outcome.  There is enough violence and discord in the world 
and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I hope it 
brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of Parliament 
which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was politically motivated as 
this person said when he appeared in Court to give his name, and I quote: 
‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’.  That was disgusting and I don’t want 
to live in a world where people can not say how they feel and then for a bullet 
or knife to come their way.  The campaign here has been divisive and disgusting 
and poisoners and many people will vote No just to try and get rid of the 
Government of the day.

 

If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up.  I just hope people 
will vote for the right reasons.

 

Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not 
written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write.

 

Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how nasty 
some people can be on this list if the mood takes them.

 

Thanks.

 

Kawal.

On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados  wrote:

 

Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.

 

I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big 

Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Scott and everyone,

Well, the Leave camp has won and I shall now apply for French citizenship. 
France has been good to me over the years. The French health care system treats 
me like a valuable member of society, whereas the British health service 
treated me as worthless and would happily have just let me die of kidney 
failure because I’m blind. I’m alive and well today because 15 years ago, I had 
a liver and kidney transplant here in France, so part of my body is already 
French I suppose.

As for Britain liberating itself from the influence of multinational 
corporations – that is certainly not the case. The Tory party is well and truly 
in bed with big business and now they’ll be free to walk all over the low-paid 
workers.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 24 Jun 2016, at 06:22, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Don’t be so quick to buy the official version of that MP being murdered.  It 
> was a horrible thing but I’m not convinced it was entirely as sold on the 
> news either.  I think in some cases the unhinged are pushd by some with in 
> the power structure to do what they do.  There’s real indications of trickery 
> in the mass shootings in the US being used to totally subvert our 
> constitution, I suspect  something similar there.
>  
> That being said, if the French won’t have you we’d love to.  Granted there’s 
> way to much paperwork to get in to our country but if you’re ready for a 5 
> year slog we’d happily take you.:)
> What ever country you decide, they will be lucky to have you.  Just don’t 
> sell your British citizenship short but do what you must.
>  
>  
>  
> From:  > on behalf of Anne Robertson 
> >
> Reply-To:  >
> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 12:12 PM
> To: >
> Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well
>  
> I’m desperately hoping for the Remain vote to win. I no longer have a vote in 
> Britain as I’ve lived in France for 33 years, but if the Leave side wins, 
> I’ll be applying for French citizenship.
>  
> The MP who was murdered was from my home area and had been headgirl at the 
> grammar school I attended after opting out of the special education system. 
> She was much younger than me, so I never knew her, but I felt a certain 
> connection to her and was horrified by what happened.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Scott and whoever is interested.
>>  
>> I cast my vote earlier today.  using a tactile Braille template.  I am now 
>> just anxious about the outcome.  There is enough violence and discord in the 
>> world and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I 
>> hope it brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of 
>> Parliament which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was 
>> politically motivated as this person said when he appeared in Court to give 
>> his name, and I quote: ‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’.  That was 
>> disgusting and I don’t want to live in a world where people can not say how 
>> they feel and then for a bullet or knife to come their way.  The campaign 
>> here has been divisive and disgusting and poisoners and many people will 
>> vote No just to try and get rid of the Government of the day.
>>  
>> If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up.  I just hope 
>> people will vote for the right reasons.
>>  
>> Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not 
>> written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write.
>>  
>> Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how 
>> nasty some people can be on this list if the mood takes them.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.
>>>  
>>> I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today. 
>>>  A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and 
>>> other leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left 
>>> well enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has 
>>> been said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such 
>>> hysterics and I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured 
>>> by the suits in this country who don’t have the support of the people 
>>> anyway.  Even though our two countries had a rocky start and there was that 
>>> little matter of a tea party and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) 
>>> it’s totally clear 

Re: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd like to apologize regarding!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Thank all of you for understanding.  I felt so bad.  It really ruinned my 
day yesterday.  LOL!


Anyway, here's to an issue we can close out.  Let's keep smiling, and get 
back to normal list protocol.  LOL!


I'm sorry though, I just had to write and thank you all, as seriously, I was 
scared you all would a really been mad.

---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem 
I'd like to apologize regarding!



Chris, don’t feel bad, I’ve done this myself.  Years ago I was on facebook 
and it asked to see my contacts and went ahead and mailed them all with 
invite requests.  Pissed me off but illustrated how you have to be careful. 
Been there and done that so no worries.



On 6/23/16, 2:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:


Hello Chris,

Thank you for letting us know about this.

No problem.  These things do sometimes happen.  You immediately made us 
aware of the issue and, as far as I am concerned, the matter is closed.


Do not beat yourself up over this.

Relax, take it easy, and be well.

Mark

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:28 PM
To: M. Taylor
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd 
like to apologize regarding!

Importance: High

Last night, a friend of mine who'll be left nameless recommended this 
service to me called Mintvine, which you all probably on macvisionaries got 
the invite to.  Let me start by saying, it is a legit service, but that's 
aside the point.


When I clicked the link in my dashboard to send an invite to people in my 
gmail contacts, I was under the impression that it would then show me a list 
of my contacts, and would let me check only the individuals I wanted to 
receive the invitation.


What it *actually!* did without my concent, nor control, was, it 
automatically sent the invite to literally everyone! in my addressbook. 
Because of the fact that I had the address to post to this list in there, 
well?  Yeah... you all guessed it.  It sent to the whole list!  Trust me! 
This was absolutely *not!* what I intended to have it do, and you bet the 
last aching bone in your body! that I reported this to their support team, 
and requested it to be expedited to the absolute highest priority they could 
push it to to have that feature fixed.  They swore to me that within less 
than an hour, the issue would be fixed.  It looks like that promise was 
fulfilled, by the  way.  things look correct at the time of writing this.


My point is, I am not a spammer, and I had 100% no! and I repeat no! no no 
no? no no! intention of sending that to the list!  None!  Nada!  I feel like 
such a mortified idiot!


Anyway, so that is what happened.  I am so! so so sorry!  Really! I am! 
Profusely!  and I swear on my last dying breath! you all won't get anything 
more like that from me on list, end of story, no questions asked.


Have a fantastic day.

Chris.

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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Scott Granados]

Don’t be so quick to buy the official version of that MP being murdered.  It 
was a horrible thing but I’m not convinced it was entirely as sold on the news 
either.  I think in some cases the unhinged are pushd by some with in the power 
structure to do what they do.  There’s real indications of trickery in the mass 
shootings in the US being used to totally subvert our constitution, I suspect  
something similar there.

 

That being said, if the French won’t have you we’d love to.  Granted there’s 
way to much paperwork to get in to our country but if you’re ready for a 5 year 
slog we’d happily take you.:)

 

What ever country you decide, they will be lucky to have you.  Just don’t sell 
your British citizenship short but do what you must.

 

 

 

From:  on behalf of Anne Robertson 

Reply-To: 
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 12:12 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

 

I’m desperately hoping for the Remain vote to win. I no longer have a vote in 
Britain as I’ve lived in France for 33 years, but if the Leave side wins, I’ll 
be applying for French citizenship.

 

The MP who was murdered was from my home area and had been headgirl at the 
grammar school I attended after opting out of the special education system. She 
was much younger than me, so I never knew her, but I felt a certain connection 
to her and was horrified by what happened.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

 

Hi Scott and whoever is interested.

 

I cast my vote earlier today.  using a tactile Braille template.  I am now just 
anxious about the outcome.  There is enough violence and discord in the world 
and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I hope it 
brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of Parliament 
which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was politically motivated as 
this person said when he appeared in Court to give his name, and I quote: 
‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’.  That was disgusting and I don’t want 
to live in a world where people can not say how they feel and then for a bullet 
or knife to come their way.  The campaign here has been divisive and disgusting 
and poisoners and many people will vote No just to try and get rid of the 
Government of the day.

 

If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up.  I just hope people 
will vote for the right reasons.

 

Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not 
written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write.

 

Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how nasty 
some people can be on this list if the mood takes them.

 

Thanks.

 

Kawal.

On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados  wrote:

 

Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.

 

I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today.  A 
lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and other 
leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left well 
enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has been 
said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such hysterics and 
I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured by the suits in 
this country who don’t have the support of the people anyway.  Even though our 
two countries had a rocky start and there was that little matter of a tea party 
and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally clear to me and 
everyone here that we have been, we presently are and hopefully always will be 
the closest of friends now.  I’m personally able to claim more than half of my 
ancestry as British and other than my own country I hold yours in highest 
regard.  Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let the bullies in Washington 
here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the decision for you. Know that on 
the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out of 10 Americans support you whole 
heartedly and if you decide to stay then we back you there as well.  It makes 
no difference to me or anyone who really counts (the man or woman on the 
street) what you do, we support you, we love you and we know you’ll do what’s 
right for Britain.  We’ll still come and spend our money in your country, buy 
your great products and enjoy your fantastic culture and people no matter what 
you do so don’t let anyone scare you in to making a decision based on rhetoric. 
 Just don’t screw up my ability to buy your fantastic single malts.:)  (I’m 
kidding, do what you need to do or don’t depending on what you and you alone 
feel)

 

Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the best.

 

Scott

 

 

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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Scott Granados]

Well I’ve been riveted watching this all day, I’m going on 24 hours here, it’s 
also a welcome distraction to some really really bad stuff happening on my 
family level right now so forgive me if I use your country’s politics as a 
distraction.:)  My grandmother oddly enough who is the connection to Britain 
for me passed after 96 years on this rock and it’s all closing in on me now 
that I am only one of 3 left in our family and the other 2 are on the shorter 
end of their lives than longer so I’m feeling a bit freaked out and my numbers 
are dwindling down to 0 so if I get in the weeds you get it.
To give you an idea why I feel such a connection with your country my 
family on my mother’s side came to this country fairly recently.  My grand 
mother and grand father came over to this country on boats I believe before 
world war 2 and settled on the east coast as well as Detroit.  My great Grand 
father, mother’s grand father actually worked on your crown jewels.  I have 
jewelers drawings hand made by him used to create some of the items in your 
tower of London today.  I’ve frequently thought about giving them to one of 
your museums if you’d have them but I have no idea their value or if they 
represent any thing special to the British people or even what or who should 
have them.  It’s this man’s daughter, my grand mother who passed this morning.  
She taught me so much about your part of the world from your money to telling 
me stories about my cousins who I don’t know but sell fruit in fruit stands 
somewhere in London or another husband and wife relation of ours who I met once 
years ago and don’t know exactly how they fit but they own a sweater company in 
Scotland.  I remember these people coming to visit us and my Grand Father who 
is from Whales loved taking them to sites around the north east US where we 
americans beat back the British during the Revolution.:)  He loved giving the 
English side of our family a real ribbing about the revolution when they would 
come to visit. In the same breath though, my grandfather served during World 
War II and I know always talked about the Brits he served proudly with.  
I say all this because I’m not the only one.  So many of us have such 
connections to your island.  So understand when you say all in together and all 
that, I consider very much we folks on both sides of the pond on the same team.
BTW, BBC and ITV just called it in favor of leaving  I’m shocked but 
you’ve definitely made things interesting over here.  Your vaporizing my 
financial holdings as I watch this, thanks guys☺, but I’m in, I wish we could 
shake off our oppressive federal government like you all just did the EU.  The 
rebel in me feels a real connection to your side right now.  Not for racial 
reasons, not for fear of any group but for self determination, self rule, 
beating back the huge corporate and global interests that do not have your 
country’s best interest at heart.  I know the economic arguments made against 
you leaving and I say bunk.  You’re a strong country, you do not need the 
approval of brussels to get through your day.  The UK alone is a massive 
economy, thankfully you never wrapped your self in the Euro so your pound will 
carry on.  I will buy many of your pounds when they tank over the next few days 
because the fears are irrational and I will do well as will you all doubling 
down on yourselves.
So folks in Florida or Texas, if you wish to break away from the union 
let me know, I’ll move down and join you.:)  I feel like blasting dixie and 
blasting a few hundred rounds in the air in celebration of someone, finally, 
beating back the powers of globalization and centralization of regulation with 
out representation.  In stead so I don’t get labeled a racist or arrested for 
making to much noise or being armed in the US I will hoist a cold one in your 
country’s honor.


To my Grand Mother Jean and to the fine people of Britain, stay or leave, way 
to go!  Nicely done and all that on all counts. I drink a Sam Adams beer from 
the Boston Brewing company in your honor.  The irony is not lost on me nor is 
it lost o nme that I’m siding with the tories.:) 


And the associated press just called it and someone is pounding on Borris 
Johnson’s door trying to wake him up.  Great stuff!

CNBC just called it in favor of leave also.

Wow, I’m shocked!

On 6/23/16, 6:11 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"  wrote:

Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats, doesn’t 
he? :)

Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than to 
encourage the Bremainers.  But, as it happens, I too hope to remain.  The worst 
part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on pragmatism rather than 
principle: the far-right government now in power will only use Brexit to lurch 
even further to the right, without our delightful, if meddlesome, 

Converting songs to mp3 with latest iTunes and ElCap.

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi,
I’m running the latest OS and the latest iTunes and I am no longer able to 
convert purchased songs to mp3.
Before, I could highlight a song and do a VO-shift m and convert to mp3. This 
doesn’t work and if I choose convert from the file menu it is dimmed.
Any help is appreciated.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats, doesn’t 
he? :)

Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than to 
encourage the Bremainers.  But, as it happens, I too hope to remain.  The worst 
part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on pragmatism rather than 
principle: the far-right government now in power will only use Brexit to lurch 
even further to the right, without our delightful, if meddlesome, friends in 
Brussels to prevent them by (undemocratically, it’s true) arriving at sensible 
and socially just policy decisions on the merits.  The hypothetical independent 
state of Britain, in a climate of establishment neoliberalism and 
first-past-the-post voting, seems distantly unlikely.  And as a believer in 
more EU unification in any event (Turkish parents), I can’t say I feel too bad 
about that.  Better together, and all that jazz. :)

Still, I do wonder what that hypothetical Britain, under the rule of a 
democratically elected liberal government, would look like.  It’d be cosy, but 
would it make me happy?  Initially, probably.  Maybe we could make it work at 
the negotiating tables where decisions are made.  But I’d feel bad for the 
other EU member states, and the project.  We’d be turning away everything it, 
and all of the men, women and children in its member states, represent.  My 
individualistic side says it makes no difference as long as I’m living in the 
exact same country; my squidgy insides say otherwise.  No, the EU isn’t a 
utopia, but by remaining, at least we can fix its faults, which is something a 
lot of Brexiters seem completely reluctant to take any interest in doing.  And 
maybe we can one day look forward to a truly united Europe.

So maybe it is about principle, after all. :)

Well, we shan’t have long to find out, at any rate.  About eight hours, in fact.

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Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Pete Nalda]

Since you're running the beta, you might want to let Apple know about the 
timer, as it is indeed there and functional under 9.3.2. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I'm running the public beta of 9.3.3 
> 
> Wish they'd hurry up with 10.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.
> 
> Hmm. I'm at 9.3.2 (13F69). Are you at a later version? 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Not on me phone man.
>> /A
>>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
>>> it. 
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>> 
 On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
 screen.
 But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
 What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
 for design?
 What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock 
 screen?
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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

[Bill Holton]

Exactly, but VM fusion refuses to use it on their technical support lines 
anymore.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve 
> had many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.
> 
> Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
> vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem. 
>  May be worth a shot.
> 
> 
> On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton"  behalf of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi.
> I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
> download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
> cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
> Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
> even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
> every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
> the notifications, and it's nine system messages.
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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados  wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


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Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
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Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

[Scott Granados]

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton"  wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I really don’t blame you Anne and I hope the remain win to put those who lied 
in this campaign in their places as they deserve to lose.
> On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> I’m desperately hoping for the Remain vote to win. I no longer have a vote in 
> Britain as I’ve lived in France for 33 years, but if the Leave side wins, 
> I’ll be applying for French citizenship.
> 
> The MP who was murdered was from my home area and had been headgirl at the 
> grammar school I attended after opting out of the special education system. 
> She was much younger than me, so I never knew her, but I felt a certain 
> connection to her and was horrified by what happened.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott and whoever is interested.
>> 
>> I cast my vote earlier today.  using a tactile Braille template.  I am now 
>> just anxious about the outcome.  There is enough violence and discord in the 
>> world and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I 
>> hope it brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of 
>> Parliament which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was 
>> politically motivated as this person said when he appeared in Court to give 
>> his name, and I quote: ‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’.  That was 
>> disgusting and I don’t want to live in a world where people can not say how 
>> they feel and then for a bullet or knife to come their way.  The campaign 
>> here has been divisive and disgusting and poisoners and many people will 
>> vote No just to try and get rid of the Government of the day.
>> 
>> If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up.  I just hope 
>> people will vote for the right reasons.
>> 
>> Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not 
>> written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write.
>> 
>> Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how 
>> nasty some people can be on this list if the mood takes them.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.
>>>  
>>> I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today. 
>>>  A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and 
>>> other leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left 
>>> well enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has 
>>> been said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such 
>>> hysterics and I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured 
>>> by the suits in this country who don’t have the support of the people 
>>> anyway.  Even though our two countries had a rocky start and there was that 
>>> little matter of a tea party and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) 
>>> it’s totally clear to me and everyone here that we have been, we presently 
>>> are and hopefully always will be the closest of friends now.  I’m 
>>> personally able to claim more than half of my ancestry as British and other 
>>> than my own country I hold yours in highest regard.  Do what’s in your 
>>> heart to do, don’t let the bullies in Washington here or number ten Downing 
>>> or Brussels make the decision for you. Know that on the ground, if you 
>>> decide to leave, 8 out of 10 Americans support you whole heartedly and if 
>>> you decide to stay then we back you there as well.  It makes no difference 
>>> to me or anyone who really counts (the man or woman on the street) what you 
>>> do, we support you, we love you and we know you’ll do what’s right for 
>>> Britain.  We’ll still come and spend our money in your country, buy your 
>>> great products and enjoy your fantastic culture and people no matter what 
>>> you do so don’t let anyone scare you in to making a decision based on 
>>> rhetoric.  Just don’t screw up my ability to buy your fantastic single 
>>> malts.:)  (I’m kidding, do what you need to do or don’t depending on what 
>>> you and you alone feel)
>>>  
>>> Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the 
>>> best.
>>>  
>>> Scott
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WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
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Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Anne Robertson]

I’m desperately hoping for the Remain vote to win. I no longer have a vote in 
Britain as I’ve lived in France for 33 years, but if the Leave side wins, I’ll 
be applying for French citizenship.

The MP who was murdered was from my home area and had been headgirl at the 
grammar school I attended after opting out of the special education system. She 
was much younger than me, so I never knew her, but I felt a certain connection 
to her and was horrified by what happened.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott and whoever is interested.
> 
> I cast my vote earlier today.  using a tactile Braille template.  I am now 
> just anxious about the outcome.  There is enough violence and discord in the 
> world and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I 
> hope it brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of 
> Parliament which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was politically 
> motivated as this person said when he appeared in Court to give his name, and 
> I quote: ‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’.  That was disgusting and I 
> don’t want to live in a world where people can not say how they feel and then 
> for a bullet or knife to come their way.  The campaign here has been divisive 
> and disgusting and poisoners and many people will vote No just to try and get 
> rid of the Government of the day.
> 
> If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up.  I just hope 
> people will vote for the right reasons.
> 
> Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not 
> written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write.
> 
> Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how 
> nasty some people can be on this list if the mood takes them.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.
>>  
>> I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today.  
>> A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and other 
>> leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left well 
>> enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has been 
>> said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such hysterics 
>> and I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured by the suits 
>> in this country who don’t have the support of the people anyway.  Even 
>> though our two countries had a rocky start and there was that little matter 
>> of a tea party and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally 
>> clear to me and everyone here that we have been, we presently are and 
>> hopefully always will be the closest of friends now.  I’m personally able to 
>> claim more than half of my ancestry as British and other than my own country 
>> I hold yours in highest regard.  Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let 
>> the bullies in Washington here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the 
>> decision for you. Know that on the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out of 
>> 10 Americans support you whole heartedly and if you decide to stay then we 
>> back you there as well.  It makes no difference to me or anyone who really 
>> counts (the man or woman on the street) what you do, we support you, we love 
>> you and we know you’ll do what’s right for Britain.  We’ll still come and 
>> spend our money in your country, buy your great products and enjoy your 
>> fantastic culture and people no matter what you do so don’t let anyone scare 
>> you in to making a decision based on rhetoric.  Just don’t screw up my 
>> ability to buy your fantastic single malts.:)  (I’m kidding, do what you 
>> need to do or don’t depending on what you and you alone feel)
>>  
>> Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the best.
>>  
>> Scott
>>  
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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Scott and whoever is interested.

I cast my vote earlier today.  using a tactile Braille template.  I am now just 
anxious about the outcome.  There is enough violence and discord in the world 
and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I hope it 
brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of Parliament 
which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was politically motivated as 
this person said when he appeared in Court to give his name, and I quote: 
‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’.  That was disgusting and I don’t want 
to live in a world where people can not say how they feel and then for a bullet 
or knife to come their way.  The campaign here has been divisive and disgusting 
and poisoners and many people will vote No just to try and get rid of the 
Government of the day.

If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up.  I just hope people 
will vote for the right reasons.

Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not 
written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write.

Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how nasty 
some people can be on this list if the mood takes them.

Thanks.

Kawal.
> On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.
>  
> I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today.  
> A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and other 
> leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left well 
> enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has been 
> said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such hysterics 
> and I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured by the suits 
> in this country who don’t have the support of the people anyway.  Even though 
> our two countries had a rocky start and there was that little matter of a tea 
> party and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally clear to me 
> and everyone here that we have been, we presently are and hopefully always 
> will be the closest of friends now.  I’m personally able to claim more than 
> half of my ancestry as British and other than my own country I hold yours in 
> highest regard.  Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let the bullies in 
> Washington here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the decision for you. 
> Know that on the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out of 10 Americans 
> support you whole heartedly and if you decide to stay then we back you there 
> as well.  It makes no difference to me or anyone who really counts (the man 
> or woman on the street) what you do, we support you, we love you and we know 
> you’ll do what’s right for Britain.  We’ll still come and spend our money in 
> your country, buy your great products and enjoy your fantastic culture and 
> people no matter what you do so don’t let anyone scare you in to making a 
> decision based on rhetoric.  Just don’t screw up my ability to buy your 
> fantastic single malts.:)  (I’m kidding, do what you need to do or don’t 
> depending on what you and you alone feel)
>  
> Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the best.
>  
> Scott
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On 6/23/2016 7:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.



I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision
today.  A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our
president and other leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they
should have just left well enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of
your country.  A lot has been said about Britain moving to the back of
the line and other such hysterics and I just want you to know that it’s
BS and don’t be pressured by the suits in this country who don’t have
the support of the people anyway.  Even though our two countries had a
rocky start and there was that little matter of a tea party and some
revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally clear to me and
everyone here that we have been, we presently are and hopefully always
will be the closest of friends now.  I’m personally able to claim more
than half of my ancestry as British and other than my own country I hold
yours in highest regard.  Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let the
bullies in Washington here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the
decision for you. Know that on the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out
of 10 Americans support you whole heartedly and if you decide to stay
then we back you there as well.  It makes no difference to me or anyone
who really counts (the man or woman on the street) what you do, we
support you, we love you and we know you’ll do what’s right for
Britain.  We’ll still come and spend our money in your country, buy your
great products and enjoy your fantastic culture and people no matter
what you do so don’t let anyone scare you in to making a decision based
on rhetoric.  Just don’t screw up my ability to buy your fantastic
single malts.:)  (I’m kidding, do what you need to do or don’t depending
on what you and you alone feel)



Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the
best.



Scott



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Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Donna Goodin]

I just want to second this.  Good luck, guys!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jun 23, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.
>  
> I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today.  
> A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and other 
> leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left well 
> enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has been 
> said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such hysterics 
> and I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured by the suits 
> in this country who don’t have the support of the people anyway.  Even though 
> our two countries had a rocky start and there was that little matter of a tea 
> party and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally clear to me 
> and everyone here that we have been, we presently are and hopefully always 
> will be the closest of friends now.  I’m personally able to claim more than 
> half of my ancestry as British and other than my own country I hold yours in 
> highest regard.  Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let the bullies in 
> Washington here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the decision for you. 
> Know that on the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out of 10 Americans 
> support you whole heartedly and if you decide to stay then we back you there 
> as well.  It makes no difference to me or anyone who really counts (the man 
> or woman on the street) what you do, we support you, we love you and we know 
> you’ll do what’s right for Britain.  We’ll still come and spend our money in 
> your country, buy your great products and enjoy your fantastic culture and 
> people no matter what you do so don’t let anyone scare you in to making a 
> decision based on rhetoric.  Just don’t screw up my ability to buy your 
> fantastic single malts.:)  (I’m kidding, do what you need to do or don’t 
> depending on what you and you alone feel)
>  
> Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the best.
>  
> Scott
>  
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Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

[Scott Granados]

Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete.

 

I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today.  A 
lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and other 
leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left well 
enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country.  A lot has been 
said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such hysterics and 
I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured by the suits in 
this country who don’t have the support of the people anyway.  Even though our 
two countries had a rocky start and there was that little matter of a tea party 
and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally clear to me and 
everyone here that we have been, we presently are and hopefully always will be 
the closest of friends now.  I’m personally able to claim more than half of my 
ancestry as British and other than my own country I hold yours in highest 
regard.  Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let the bullies in Washington 
here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the decision for you. Know that on 
the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out of 10 Americans support you whole 
heartedly and if you decide to stay then we back you there as well.  It makes 
no difference to me or anyone who really counts (the man or woman on the 
street) what you do, we support you, we love you and we know you’ll do what’s 
right for Britain.  We’ll still come and spend our money in your country, buy 
your great products and enjoy your fantastic culture and people no matter what 
you do so don’t let anyone scare you in to making a decision based on rhetoric. 
 Just don’t screw up my ability to buy your fantastic single malts.:)  (I’m 
kidding, do what you need to do or don’t depending on what you and you alone 
feel)

 

Good luck and no matter how it slices I and we wish you nothing but the best.

 

Scott

 

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Re: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd like to apologize regarding!

[Scott Granados]

Chris, don’t feel bad, I’ve done this myself.  Years ago I was on facebook and 
it asked to see my contacts and went ahead and mailed them all with invite 
requests.  Pissed me off but illustrated how you have to be careful.  Been 
there and done that so no worries.


On 6/23/16, 2:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:

Hello Chris,

Thank you for letting us know about this.

No problem.  These things do sometimes happen.  You immediately made us aware 
of the issue and, as far as I am concerned, the matter is closed.

Do not beat yourself up over this.

Relax, take it easy, and be well.

Mark

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:28 PM
To: M. Taylor
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd 
like to apologize regarding!
Importance: High

Last night, a friend of mine who'll be left nameless recommended this service 
to me called Mintvine, which you all probably on macvisionaries got the invite 
to.  Let me start by saying, it is a legit service, but that's aside the point.
 
When I clicked the link in my dashboard to send an invite to people in my gmail 
contacts, I was under the impression that it would then show me a list of my 
contacts, and would let me check only the individuals I wanted to receive the 
invitation.
 
What it *actually!* did without my concent, nor control, was, it automatically 
sent the invite to literally everyone! in my addressbook.  Because of the fact 
that I had the address to post to this list in there, well?  Yeah... you all 
guessed it.  It sent to the whole list!  Trust me!  This was absolutely *not!* 
what I intended to have it do, and you bet the last aching bone in your body! 
that I reported this to their support team, and requested it to be expedited to 
the absolute highest priority they could push it to to have that feature fixed. 
 They swore to me that within less than an hour, the issue would be fixed.  It 
looks like that promise was fulfilled, by the  way.  things look correct at the 
time of writing this.
 
My point is, I am not a spammer, and I had 100% no! and I repeat no! no no no? 
no no! intention of sending that to the list!  None!  Nada!  I feel like such a 
mortified idiot!
 
Anyway, so that is what happened.  I am so! so so sorry!  Really! I am!  
Profusely!  and I swear on my last dying breath! you all won't get anything 
more like that from me on list, end of story, no questions asked.
 
Have a fantastic day.
 
Chris.

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RE: Timer on lock screen.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes I'm running the public beta of 9.3.3 currently, just waiting on the release 
of 10 next month.

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Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.

Hmm. I'm at 9.3.2 (13F69). Are you at a later version? 

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> On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Not on me phone man.
> /A
>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
>> it. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>>> screen.
>>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>>> for design?
>>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>>> Thanks in advance.
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RE: Timer on lock screen.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I'm running the public beta of 9.3.3 

Wish they'd hurry up with 10.
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On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.

Hmm. I'm at 9.3.2 (13F69). Are you at a later version? 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not on me phone man.
> /A
>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
>> it. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>>> screen.
>>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>>> for design?
>>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>>> Thanks in advance.
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RE: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd like to apologize regarding!

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chris,

Thank you for letting us know about this.

No problem.  These things do sometimes happen.  You immediately made us aware 
of the issue and, as far as I am concerned, the matter is closed.

Do not beat yourself up over this.

Relax, take it easy, and be well.

Mark

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:28 PM
To: M. Taylor
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd 
like to apologize regarding!
Importance: High

Last night, a friend of mine who'll be left nameless recommended this service 
to me called Mintvine, which you all probably on macvisionaries got the invite 
to.  Let me start by saying, it is a legit service, but that's aside the point.
 
When I clicked the link in my dashboard to send an invite to people in my gmail 
contacts, I was under the impression that it would then show me a list of my 
contacts, and would let me check only the individuals I wanted to receive the 
invitation.
 
What it *actually!* did without my concent, nor control, was, it automatically 
sent the invite to literally everyone! in my addressbook.  Because of the fact 
that I had the address to post to this list in there, well?  Yeah... you all 
guessed it.  It sent to the whole list!  Trust me!  This was absolutely *not!* 
what I intended to have it do, and you bet the last aching bone in your body! 
that I reported this to their support team, and requested it to be expedited to 
the absolute highest priority they could push it to to have that feature fixed. 
 They swore to me that within less than an hour, the issue would be fixed.  It 
looks like that promise was fulfilled, by the  way.  things look correct at the 
time of writing this.
 
My point is, I am not a spammer, and I had 100% no! and I repeat no! no no no? 
no no! intention of sending that to the list!  None!  Nada!  I feel like such a 
mortified idiot!
 
Anyway, so that is what happened.  I am so! so so sorry!  Really! I am!  
Profusely!  and I swear on my last dying breath! you all won't get anything 
more like that from me on list, end of story, no questions asked.
 
Have a fantastic day.
 
Chris.

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