Re: Organizer or Planner app

[E.T.]

Nancy,
   Thanks. Sounds good. Only a 14 day trial so will wait until I know I 
will sit down and play with Things. Hmm, that sounds like what I do 
already. (smiles)


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On 8/8/2016 4:52 PM, Nancy Badger wrote:

I like the app called Things. It is an organizer app and it has a place for 
projects. It has a place where you can set priorities for the project. It is 
simple to use. Although I know it is available for the Mac, I have only used 
the version for iPhone.
Nancy

Nancy Badger,
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:52 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Let me see if I can explain what I am seeking. Scott's post got me to 
thinking about this.

  I want to find a Mac app that I can use to organize or plan my projects and 
help me prioritize tasks. Nothing fancy.

  Where Scott's post comes in is if there is some level of intuition that can 
assist in working out priorities and timelines for tasks.

  I am not good at it and wind up operating rather inefficiently. Its got to be 
simple or it too might make my life even more inefficient. (smiles)

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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

Oh wow, sounds similar to the sceen in “the santa clause 2,” where they try to 
make a robotic Santa, to try to run the show while the real one AKA Scott 
Calvin, has to temporarily go back home to deal with family issues, only things 
go seriously wrong with the robotic one and he puts everybody on the nauty list 
and generates nothing but lumps of coal instead of helping to make toys.  
Sounds like a crazy thing to think about 10+ years from now lol.
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> The same can be said for every revolution in technology.  There was a time 
> when the buggy whip business was huge after all or there were people who 
> brought ice to your home everyday to fill your ice box.  Things change.  
> You’re absolutely right there may be robots but for the foreseeable future 
> anyway there will be engineers working on thee robots.  
>   Your case is a good one though for a little further down the road.  
> There will be a time when machines will build, design and maintain themselves 
> and then we get in to very interesting areas.  It may be very likely for 
> example that humans are needed for some aspect of production but they would 
> take their direction from machines in other parts of the operation.   The 
> idea eventually of a digital being heading up a company for example is not 
> entirely impossible.  For example, what if Steve Jobs lived 50 years from now 
> and we had the ability to scan his brain and transfer the data in his neural 
> networks to a machine which could function as long as it was maintained.  He 
> could have continued running apple but no longer in biological form.  Or 
> transferred back in to a biological form once a clone was sufficiently aged.
> 
> Bottom line is you’re right but things adapt so there are jobs and activities 
> we couldn’t have imagined.  Alexander Graham Bell for example could probably 
> not imagine what I do today although they are directly related.
> 
> 
>  
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann > > wrote:
>> 
>> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
>> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
>> humans. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn 
>>> instead of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that 
>>> association in software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to 
>>> assume it’s the most likely possibility though unless things are progressed 
>>> further than I think which is entirely possible.
>>> 
>>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool 
>>> artificial intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s 
>>> Watson.It really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I 
>>> see machines starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll 
>>> also admit I was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to 
>>> Jeopardy and proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was 
>>> also cheering for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when 
>>> the mechanized robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on 
>>> the roof raining down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for 
>>> humanity I’ll change my position.;)
>>> 
>>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will 
>>> be indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the 
>>> network.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> > wrote:
 
 Finally had a chance to read this thread.
 I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
 aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
 read.
 Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
 ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
 Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
 works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects 
 to be sure.
 I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
 if I can understand them clearly.
 Kare
 
 
 On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri 
> started out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  
> General machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of 
> the responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
> matching of responses like their used to be.
> 
> I’m a

Re: Organizer or Planner app

[Nancy Badger]

I like the app called Things. It is an organizer app and it has a place for 
projects. It has a place where you can set priorities for the project. It is 
simple to use. Although I know it is available for the Mac, I have only used 
the version for iPhone.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, 
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:52 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Let me see if I can explain what I am seeking. Scott's post got me to 
> thinking about this.
> 
>   I want to find a Mac app that I can use to organize or plan my projects and 
> help me prioritize tasks. Nothing fancy.
> 
>   Where Scott's post comes in is if there is some level of intuition that can 
> assist in working out priorities and timelines for tasks.
> 
>   I am not good at it and wind up operating rather inefficiently. Its got to 
> be simple or it too might make my life even more inefficient. (smiles)
> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

There’s such a thing in Reality?  I’ve never heard of such.
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
> 
> They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.
> 
> It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
> called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
> controlling themselves and the world 
> 
> Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 
> 
> Really good documentary 
> There are a few follow ups to it also.
> 
> Lol.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some 
> time in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that 
> was developed in the movie “big hero 6."
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a be

Spellchecking on the iPad? Am I missing something?

[Douglas Lawlor]

Hello all,

Are there keyboard commands for spellchecking documents on the iPad. I am 
trying to type an email and I can hear VoiceOver give me the pop up 
notification for misspellings but cannot seem to access the pop up. How does 
one do this? 
If I could find an easy way to spell check content creation would be a lot 
easier. I can use this all day and not worry about battery life. 
Would love to get this problem solved. 

Thanks, 

Doug


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Re: using contacts

[Jonathan Cohn]

When VO says new group, hit the return / enter key and it should indicate
that New Group is selected. Now just type work, and the folder should be
renamed.

This is the same process as folders in the finder.



On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:33 PM Caitlyn Furness 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to create two seperate groups in my contacts: my usual ones, and
> one for work.
>
> I seemed to be able to create the new group for work successfully, but
> it’s called “untitled”.  I can’t seem to get to a view where I can see both
> groups-my regular contacts plus the new group that I want to call “work”.
>
> Does anybody know how to do this, or is it not friendly for vo users?
>
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
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using contacts

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,

I want to create two seperate groups in my contacts: my usual ones, and one for 
work.

I seemed to be able to create the new group for work successfully, but it’s 
called “untitled”.  I can’t seem to get to a view where I can see both 
groups-my regular contacts plus the new group that I want to call “work”.

Does anybody know how to do this, or is it not friendly for vo users?

thanks!
Caitlyn

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Re: Help with Abby fine reader

[Jenine Stanley]

That’s where I got mine also. It’s been so long ago now though that cost is 
irrelevant in my case. It was one of the first apps I purchased after switching 
over to the MacBook Pro. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Aug 8, 2016, at 4:23 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> I got my copy from the Mac App Store. That way, the serial number is embeded 
> in the app, so no activation of any kind is required. Plus, each and every 
> single app from the Mac App Store are tied to your Apple ID, just like apps 
> from the iOS app store, so the app can be installed on as many macs as you 
> like, so long as they are all signed into the same Apple ID.
>> On 8 Aug 2016, at 21:16, Trey Bradley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guise I have a Mac how can I purchase Abby Fine Reader and how much does 
>> it cost?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> To install the app, yes, copy the file to your applications folder and 
>>> press command-o to open it. the app should then install itself. 
>>> 
>>> If you don’t have a scanning device plugged into your Mac, you will just 
>>> see the computer itself listed under devices. 
>>> 
>>> First 
>>> You will see an area called New
>>> Task. This will be at the far left. Your cursor and focus will land on the 
>>> Title area which should show your computer. 
>>> 
>>> Use VO-Right arrow to move to the Convert to Word button. 
>>> 
>>> Once you activate this button, you will be taken to a standard Open file 
>>> dialog where you can choose the file you want to convert. There are also 
>>> several options in this dialog for how you want that file to be processed. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps get you started.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
 
 copy the abby fine reader to your application folder to install it.
 converting a file to word on the abby fine reader select your file then 
 select word
> On 06 Aug 2016, at 23:08, denise avant  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I have a copy of abby fine reader pro for the mac. I was wondering how to 
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Re: Help with Abby fine reader

[christopher hallsworth]

I got my copy from the Mac App Store. That way, the serial number is embeded in 
the app, so no activation of any kind is required. Plus, each and every single 
app from the Mac App Store are tied to your Apple ID, just like apps from the 
iOS app store, so the app can be installed on as many macs as you like, so long 
as they are all signed into the same Apple ID.
> On 8 Aug 2016, at 21:16, Trey Bradley  wrote:
> 
> Hi guise I have a Mac how can I purchase Abby Fine Reader and how much does 
> it cost?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> To install the app, yes, copy the file to your applications folder and press 
>> command-o to open it. the app should then install itself. 
>> 
>> If you don’t have a scanning device plugged into your Mac, you will just see 
>> the computer itself listed under devices. 
>> 
>> First 
>> You will see an area called New
>> Task. This will be at the far left. Your cursor and focus will land on the 
>> Title area which should show your computer. 
>> 
>> Use VO-Right arrow to move to the Convert to Word button. 
>> 
>> Once you activate this button, you will be taken to a standard Open file 
>> dialog where you can choose the file you want to convert. There are also 
>> several options in this dialog for how you want that file to be processed. 
>> 
>> Hope that helps get you started.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
>>> 
>>> copy the abby fine reader to your application folder to install it.
>>> converting a file to word on the abby fine reader select your file then 
>>> select word
 On 06 Aug 2016, at 23:08, denise avant  wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have a copy of abby fine reader pro for the mac. I was wondering how to 
 install it. I wanted to know how to open a file, e.g. pdf, and convert it 
 to a word or text file. If anyone can give e some basic advice on how to 
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Re: Help with Abby fine reader

[Trey Bradley]

Hi guise I have a Mac how can I purchase Abby Fine Reader and how much does it 
cost?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> 
> To install the app, yes, copy the file to your applications folder and press 
> command-o to open it. the app should then install itself. 
> 
> If you don’t have a scanning device plugged into your Mac, you will just see 
> the computer itself listed under devices. 
> 
> First 
> You will see an area called New
> Task. This will be at the far left. Your cursor and focus will land on the 
> Title area which should show your computer. 
> 
> Use VO-Right arrow to move to the Convert to Word button. 
> 
> Once you activate this button, you will be taken to a standard Open file 
> dialog where you can choose the file you want to convert. There are also 
> several options in this dialog for how you want that file to be processed. 
> 
> Hope that helps get you started.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
>> 
>> copy the abby fine reader to your application folder to install it.
>> converting a file to word on the abby fine reader select your file then 
>> select word
>>> On 06 Aug 2016, at 23:08, denise avant  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I have a copy of abby fine reader pro for the mac. I was wondering how to 
>>> install it. I wanted to know how to open a file, e.g. pdf, and convert it 
>>> to a word or text file. If anyone can give e some basic advice on how to 
>>> use this program, I would appreciate it. thank you.
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Re: renaming or relabeling apps on the home screen

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks so much Anne. Interesting behavior when closing the app from App 
Switcher. 
Jenine Stanley
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> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Jenine,
> 
> Double-tap and hold with two fingers. You’ll hear a series of clangs, after 
> which you can type in a new label. Click the Done button and VoiceOver will 
> read the new name.
> Interestingly, in the App Switcher, VO will read the new name, but when you 
> close the app, it will be announced with its original name.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2016, at 17:47, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> I have 2 apps with the same name and want to be able to tell them apart if I 
>> list them both on the Home screen. One is the stock Apple Mail app and the 
>> other is the Voice Dream Mail app. 
>> 
>> I’m using iOS10 beta 3. Is there any way to change what VO reads as the app 
>> name? Thanks. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: renaming or relabeling apps on the home screen

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jenine,

Double-tap and hold with two fingers. You’ll hear a series of clangs, after 
which you can type in a new label. Click the Done button and VoiceOver will 
read the new name.
Interestingly, in the App Switcher, VO will read the new name, but when you 
close the app, it will be announced with its original name.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Aug 2016, at 17:47, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
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> I have 2 apps with the same name and want to be able to tell them apart if I 
> list them both on the Home screen. One is the stock Apple Mail app and the 
> other is the Voice Dream Mail app. 
> 
> I’m using iOS10 beta 3. Is there any way to change what VO reads as the app 
> name? Thanks. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Sharon Hooley]

Speaking of the idea of robotic technology controlling the will, I think of a 
YouTube video of Conversation between Siri and Siri on two separate devices. 
I'll have to play around with different voice interactions between Siri, 
Cuortana, etc.

Sharon H.

> On Aug 8, 2016, at 3:08 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
> 
> They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.
> 
> It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
> called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
> controlling themselves and the world 
> 
> Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 
> 
> Really good documentary 
> There are a few follow ups to it also.
> 
> Lol.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some 
> time in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that 
> was developed in the movie “big hero 6."
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort

Re: renaming or relabeling apps on the home screen

[Jonathan Cohn]

I believe the triple click with three fingers will allow you to rename apps

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:47 AM Jenine Stanley 
wrote:

> I have 2 apps with the same name and want to be able to tell them apart if
> I list them both on the Home screen. One is the stock Apple Mail app and
> the other is the Voice Dream Mail app.
>
> I’m using iOS10 beta 3. Is there any way to change what VO reads as the
> app name? Thanks.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>
>
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renaming or relabeling apps on the home screen

[Jenine Stanley]

I have 2 apps with the same name and want to be able to tell them apart if I 
list them both on the Home screen. One is the stock Apple Mail app and the 
other is the Voice Dream Mail app. 

I’m using iOS10 beta 3. Is there any way to change what VO reads as the app 
name? Thanks. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

And Siri uses Wikipedia as a data source right?  I know Watson does I think 
Siri does as well.  That might explain the relationship.

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Actually this is done on Wikipedia. If you search there directly for Bruce it 
> will bring up Caitlin.
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or 
>>> collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>>> something else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t 
>>> believe in the 3 laws o

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

The same can be said for every revolution in technology.  There was a time when 
the buggy whip business was huge after all or there were people who brought ice 
to your home everyday to fill your ice box.  Things change.  You’re absolutely 
right there may be robots but for the foreseeable future anyway there will be 
engineers working on thee robots.  
Your case is a good one though for a little further down the road.  
There will be a time when machines will build, design and maintain themselves 
and then we get in to very interesting areas.  It may be very likely for 
example that humans are needed for some aspect of production but they would 
take their direction from machines in other parts of the operation.   The idea 
eventually of a digital being heading up a company for example is not entirely 
impossible.  For example, what if Steve Jobs lived 50 years from now and we had 
the ability to scan his brain and transfer the data in his neural networks to a 
machine which could function as long as it was maintained.  He could have 
continued running apple but no longer in biological form.  Or transferred back 
in to a biological form once a clone was sufficiently aged.

Bottom line is you’re right but things adapt so there are jobs and activities 
we couldn’t have imagined.  Alexander Graham Bell for example could probably 
not imagine what I do today although they are directly related.


 

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
> humans. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Ricardo Walker]

Interesting point, and your definitely not alone in that concern. I will say 
this though, a little over 100 years ago, people have the same concerns about 
machines in factories taking jobs.
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
> humans. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or 
>>> collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>>>

iBooks

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. My iBooks aren’t syncing with my iPhone. I have the iBooks app on the Mac 
set to sync with other devices but my books are totally out of sync. Is there a 
bug with the Mac version of iBooks? 

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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Jessica,

 They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.

It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
controlling themselves and the world 

 Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 

 Really good documentary 
 There are a few follow ups to it also.

Lol.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some time 
in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that was 
developed in the movie “big hero 6."
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
> which is entirely possible.
> 
> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
> position.;)
> 
> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky Net. 
>  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix than 
> Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I read.
>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>> be sure.
>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>> if I can understand them clearly.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>> 
>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more 
>>> simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general 
>>> AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>> 
>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>> 
>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
 
 Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
 those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
 
 Kristeen
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Resistance is futile!
> 
> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection 
>> of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the 

RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

So who's this jesus chick?

 

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Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 12:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

I was always more partial to Jesus Built my Hot Rod by Ministry but that’s me.

;)

Dang diggy dang gadiggyiggy dang

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> That’s wild as ever.  I haven’t heard that one in a while, forgot who sings 
> it.
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion 
>> is for humans and she has her circuits instead.
>> /A
>>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, 
>>> but I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
 language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
 life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
 some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
 very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
 determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
 beings, like me, I’m alive”
 
 After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
 response was “close enough”
 
 My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
 response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
 
 I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
 
 I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
 weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
 else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
 And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
 
 Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
 initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
 
 Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
 at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
 
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah but not all is set by the human developer in a static system,

 Asking about resturants or cafes must be from a web based service,

 And that is only working in certain situations,
 I can't get siri to locate a pizza bar only 100 meters from where I live and 
it's been there at least 25 years,
When my phone is recharged I'll ask it what the parliament buildings are called 
here in NZ, or what is at 1600 pensulvainia avenue,
 Mind you even I know that one

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How do they “program,” them?  I’m confused on that one.
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
>>> 
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