Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[David Chittenden]

And, according to a US pattent filed by Apple, they may have a way of tracking 
physiological factors such as heart rate, temp, various chemical compounds in 
perspiration, and so forth.
It is also rumoured that the iPhone 7 will have an upgraded Bluetooth chip with 
almost no delay.

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> On 1 Sep 2016, at 11:59, Michael Marshall  wrote:
> 
> those ear pods sound quite interesting, wireless is the way of the future.
>> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 2:26 am, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> There is also an upgraded option now for something called air pods which are 
>> ear pods but wireless.  Also, each pod is wireless so no wire behind the 
>> head for stereo, each pod works independently.  i’m sort of in to the idea 
>> will be exciting to see what really does surface.  It’s pretty much certain 
>> though that the headphone jack is gone.  Lots of leaked case designs and 
>> prototype pictures of the phone with nothing but a lightning port and more 
>> durable.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the 
>>> new iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
>>> The latest leak I believe has credence.
>>> In the box with the iPhone seven, you will get a lightning to 3.5 mm 
>>> adapter witch is what i guessed apple would do if they did take the jack 
>>> from the phone.
>>> If this is indeed the case I am quite satisfied because at least they have 
>>> made an adapter readily available.
>>> 
>>> Michael
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Brent Harding]

I use a 30-pin to airplay device to get sound to my ilder Klipsch dock from 
my iPhone, and I would assume I should be able to still continue with that.
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the 
iPhone seven



Hi Mark,
Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the 
disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage 
card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the 
other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new 
phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other 
headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the 
headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device 
makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In 
fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on 
the phone.



Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the 
new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.


When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to 
its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, 
effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept 
those features.


A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS 
devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon 
attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed 
to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in 
order to manage photos.


Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature 
in the subsequent release of iTunes.


So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something 
tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).


Mark

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When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first 
appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so 
potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.


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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Michael Marshall]

Absolutely, durability is very important.
i do wonder about charging, how would you do it if your lightening port had the 
jack adapter plugged in?

> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 2:28 am, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Me either, this is why I could never understand everyone getting their 
> panties in a bunch.  As long as there was an adapter who cares who format 
> they go to.  The upsides are far more than any downside.  A super durable 
> phone sounds good to me as an example of an upside.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 9:46 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  That was always the most common sense approach. Never doubted that Apple 
>> would do this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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>> On 8/31/2016 5:29 AM, Michael Marshall wrote:
>>> hey all,
>>> I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the 
>>> new iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
>>> The latest leak I believe has credence.
>>> In the box with the iPhone seven, you will get a lightning to 3.5 mm 
>>> adapter witch is what i guessed apple would do if they did take the jack 
>>> from the phone.
>>> If this is indeed the case I am quite satisfied because at least they have 
>>> made an adapter readily available.
>>> 
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Michael Marshall]

those ear pods sound quite interesting, wireless is the way of the future.
> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 2:26 am, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> There is also an upgraded option now for something called air pods which are 
> ear pods but wireless.  Also, each pod is wireless so no wire behind the head 
> for stereo, each pod works independently.  i’m sort of in to the idea will be 
> exciting to see what really does surface.  It’s pretty much certain though 
> that the headphone jack is gone.  Lots of leaked case designs and prototype 
> pictures of the phone with nothing but a lightning port and more durable.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the 
>> new iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
>> The latest leak I believe has credence.
>> In the box with the iPhone seven, you will get a lightning to 3.5 mm adapter 
>> witch is what i guessed apple would do if they did take the jack from the 
>> phone.
>> If this is indeed the case I am quite satisfied because at least they have 
>> made an adapter readily available.
>> 
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Re: OK, so is there *ANY accessible way to set up a Skype Voicemail greeting?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Josh,

I'm a transition coach.  I work with individuals who are relocating because of 
a spouse's career.  I meet with my clients on Skype.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:
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> Cool, what do you do using Skype professionally?
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> thank you That did the trick.  I use Skype professionally, and really 
>> needed to get my greeting changed.  Thanks for the tip!
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> I’m not sure how well this will work for you, but here’s how I made the 
>>> “Setup Voice Messaging” button come up on the Mac.
>>> What you have to do is go into Skype’s preferences, find the “Calls” button 
>>> in the toolbar and click on it. Then, you have to temporarily under 
>>> Answering Calls, at the beginning of this dialog, find the group of radio 
>>> buttons, and you have to set it to “Send to Voice Messaging” otherwise, it 
>>> will be dimmed. Then, once done, set it back to “Receive Normally” or 
>>> whatever you had it at before.
>>> I hope this helps a little at least. :)
>>> Jeffrey
 On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 I've tried doing this on my iPhone, I've tried doing it on the Mac.  I've 
 googled it and followed the directions, but I can't get the cursor to the 
 Set Up Voicemail button that is supposedly the button I need to press.  
 Does *anyone know how I can do this on any i-device or Mac?  G, I 
 wish Microsoft had never bought Skype.
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well Motorola has also released an android phone with just an usb c port and an 
adapter.
So i guess this is the future.
/A
> On 31 Aug 2016, at 18:26, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> There is also an upgraded option now for something called air pods which are 
> ear pods but wireless.  Also, each pod is wireless so no wire behind the head 
> for stereo, each pod works independently.  i’m sort of in to the idea will be 
> exciting to see what really does surface.  It’s pretty much certain though 
> that the headphone jack is gone.  Lots of leaked case designs and prototype 
> pictures of the phone with nothing but a lightning port and more durable.
> 
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>> wrote:
>> 
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>> I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the 
>> new iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
>> The latest leak I believe has credence.
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>> witch is what i guessed apple would do if they did take the jack from the 
>> phone.
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Re: Sending messages with Apple Watch.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes, me too if i can afford it.
I would like to sell this one i have.
/A
> On 31 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Redmond Pie is reporting 3 new watch models which will be interesting.
> 
> I have the steel model now and love it, I’d definitely get another.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> When I use to have the watch, I learnt also that you could double tap with 
>> two fingers and the message would go.  Like I said in a previous post, I 
>> want the new generation of Watch.  If it doesn’t come out or it isn’t coming 
>> out I’ll have to get a Steel watch as I won’t buy the sports model this time 
>> after my last experience with the sports one.  Everyone says that Apple are 
>> talking about a new watch Generation.  One with a Camera.  Even though I 
>> can’t see, I’d like one just to be the same as my sighted peers.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 22:33, Jenny Wood >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This tripped me up in the beginning, too.  When you have the message up 
>>> with the “Don’t Send” button, all you need to do is press the Crown button 
>>> on the side of the watch, and that will send your message.  You should even 
>>> hear the “swoosh” when the message sends.
>>> 
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>>>  Sometimes gets me in trouble too.
>>>  But the truth is,
>>>  I could no more stop dreaming,
>>>  Than I could make them all come true.”
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Anders Holmberg > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I don’t get the send message feature to work on my Apple Watch.
 When the text is dictated i have a message on the apple watch saying that 
 i send this message.
 Then comes the message and then a don’t send button.
 Where is the send button?
 Doesn’t it work without bluetooth?
 Thanks.
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Re: OK, so is there *ANY accessible way to set up a Skype Voicemail greeting?

[Joshua Tubbs]

Cool, what do you do using Skype professionally?
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> thank you That did the trick.  I use Skype professionally, and really 
> needed to get my greeting changed.  Thanks for the tip!
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> “Setup Voice Messaging” button come up on the Mac.
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>> Answering Calls, at the beginning of this dialog, find the group of radio 
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>> will be dimmed. Then, once done, set it back to “Receive Normally” or 
>> whatever you had it at before.
>> I hope this helps a little at least. :)
>> Jeffrey
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've tried doing this on my iPhone, I've tried doing it on the Mac.  I've 
>>> googled it and followed the directions, but I can't get the cursor to the 
>>> Set Up Voicemail button that is supposedly the button I need to press.  
>>> Does *anyone know how I can do this on any i-device or Mac?  G, I 
>>> wish Microsoft had never bought Skype.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[E.T.]

   Lightning port. That is what the adapter is for.

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On 8/31/2016 1:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

So if the Headphone Jack has gone where would one put the new adaptor
that Apple will supply?

On 31 Aug 2016, at 19:05, M. Taylor > wrote:

Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts
the new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.

When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the
removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory
to its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market,
effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept
those features.

A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for
iOS devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC
users upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went
crazy and vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people
to use iTunes in order to manage photos.

Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this
feature in the subsequent release of iTunes.

So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something
tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).

Mark

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When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack
first appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an
adapter so potential customers would be able to use their existing
earphones with the iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me
in the least.

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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

So if the Headphone Jack has gone where would one put the new adaptor that 
Apple will supply?
> On 31 Aug 2016, at 19:05, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new 
> iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.  
> 
> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its 
> flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, 
> rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features.
> 
> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS 
> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon 
> attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to 
> turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to 
> manage photos.  
> 
> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in 
> the subsequent release of iTunes.  
> 
> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells 
> me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).  
> 
> Mark 
> 
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> iPhone seven
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> appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so 
> potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
> iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.
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Re: OK, so is there *ANY accessible way to set up a Skype Voicemail greeting?

[Donna Goodin]

thank you That did the trick.  I use Skype professionally, and really 
needed to get my greeting changed.  Thanks for the tip!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
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> you have to set it to “Send to Voice Messaging” otherwise, it will be dimmed. 
> Then, once done, set it back to “Receive Normally” or whatever you had it at 
> before.
> I hope this helps a little at least. :)
> Jeffrey
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>> I've tried doing this on my iPhone, I've tried doing it on the Mac.  I've 
>> googled it and followed the directions, but I can't get the cursor to the 
>> Set Up Voicemail button that is supposedly the button I need to press.  Does 
>> *anyone know how I can do this on any i-device or Mac?  G, I wish 
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>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: OK, so is there *ANY accessible way to set up a Skype Voicemail greeting?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
I’m not sure how well this will work for you, but here’s how I made the “Setup 
Voice Messaging” button come up on the Mac.
What you have to do is go into Skype’s preferences, find the “Calls” button in 
the toolbar and click on it. Then, you have to temporarily under Answering 
Calls, at the beginning of this dialog, find the group of radio buttons, and 
you have to set it to “Send to Voice Messaging” otherwise, it will be dimmed. 
Then, once done, set it back to “Receive Normally” or whatever you had it at 
before.
I hope this helps a little at least. :)
Jeffrey
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I've tried doing this on my iPhone, I've tried doing it on the Mac.  I've 
> googled it and followed the directions, but I can't get the cursor to the Set 
> Up Voicemail button that is supposedly the button I need to press.  Does 
> *anyone know how I can do this on any i-device or Mac?  G, I wish 
> Microsoft had never bought Skype.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Mary Otten]

Hi Mark,
Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the 
disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card 
thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other 
rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new phone, 
as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other headphones. 
Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the headphone jack 
will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device makers are already 
moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the 
first ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new 
> iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.  
> 
> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its 
> flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, 
> rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features.
> 
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> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon 
> attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to 
> turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to 
> manage photos.  
> 
> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in 
> the subsequent release of iTunes.  
> 
> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells 
> me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).  
> 
> Mark 
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> potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
> iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.
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OK, so is there *ANY accessible way to set up a Skype Voicemail greeting?

[Donna Goodin]

I've tried doing this on my iPhone, I've tried doing it on the Mac.  I've 
googled it and followed the directions, but I can't get the cursor to the Set 
Up Voicemail button that is supposedly the button I need to press.  Does 
*anyone know how I can do this on any i-device or Mac?  G, I wish 
Microsoft had never bought Skype.
Cheers,
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RE: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[M. Taylor]

Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new 
iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.  

When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its 
flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, 
rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features.

A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS devices 
to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon attaching 
the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to turn to 
Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to manage 
photos.  

Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in 
the subsequent release of iTunes.  

So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells me 
that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).  

Mark 

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When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first 
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potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
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Re: Apple to Release New MacBook Pro and Air as Early as October, AMD iMacs and 5K Display With LG Also in Works - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

Oh they have gotten a lot better.  When I was in college years ago I had a 
Toshiba that must have weighed 15 pounds and had multiple batteries so I really 
shouldn’t complain.

I have a fully loaded MacBook Pro 15 inch which as I said is great power wise 
but a little heavy and definitely heats up.  I also added an “In Case” hard 
shell which adds a little weight but makes things much more solid and prevents 
the metal from being scratched.

The 13 inch MacBook pro is the optimal size and weight.  If only it had 
a bit more power but that’s the trade off I guess.



> On Aug 31, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> Yeah, I'm not sure about the function bar.  At least it sounds as if some 
> thought is going in to it's use rather than just something to be new and 
> gimmicky.
> 
> I guess that laptops can't be too light or thin but sometimes it seems to me 
> that they put esthetics above power and functionality.  MBPs are supposed to 
> be desktop replacements.  I think that  the Air is an example  of where these 
> compromises were very artfully engineered.
> I've carried a 13 around quite a bit without much problem, but I can see how 
> a 15 would be difficult.
> In college, I regularly lugged a Del several blocks and that was tuff.
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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:52, Scott Granados  > wrote:
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> These do look interesting.  I’m not sure about the function bar but I’d give 
> it a shot.
> 
>   The only complaint I have about my MacBook pro now is the model I have 
> is a little heavy / bulky and it gets a little hot when under load so if they 
> could make it a little lighter / thinner that would be good.
>  
> 
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>> Looks like new Macs are on the way and I'm sure they will be thinner than 
>> ever.  :)
>> It's been a while since the last refresh.
>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/29/new-macbook-pro-air-oct-amd-imacs-5k-display-lg/
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Re: Apple to Release New MacBook Pro and Air as Early as October, AMD iMacs and 5K Display With LG Also in Works - Mac Rumors

[Barry Hadder]

Yeah, I'm not sure about the function bar.  At least it sounds as if some 
thought is going in to it's use rather than just something to be new and 
gimmicky.

I guess that laptops can't be too light or thin but sometimes it seems to me 
that they put esthetics above power and functionality.  MBPs are supposed to be 
desktop replacements.  I think that  the Air is an example  of where these 
compromises were very artfully engineered.
I've carried a 13 around quite a bit without much problem, but I can see how a 
15 would be difficult.
In college, I regularly lugged a Del several blocks and that was tuff.

On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:52, Scott Granados  wrote:

These do look interesting.  I’m not sure about the function bar but I’d give it 
a shot.

The only complaint I have about my MacBook pro now is the model I have 
is a little heavy / bulky and it gets a little hot when under load so if they 
could make it a little lighter / thinner that would be good.
 


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> ever.  :)
> It's been a while since the last refresh.
>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/29/new-macbook-pro-air-oct-amd-imacs-5k-display-lg/
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Re: Apple to Release New MacBook Pro and Air as Early as October, AMD iMacs and 5K Display With LG Also in Works - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

These do look interesting.  I’m not sure about the function bar but I’d give it 
a shot.

The only complaint I have about my MacBook pro now is the model I have 
is a little heavy / bulky and it gets a little hot when under load so if they 
could make it a little lighter / thinner that would be good.
 


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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Scott Granados]

Me either, this is why I could never understand everyone getting their panties 
in a bunch.  As long as there was an adapter who cares who format they go to.  
The upsides are far more than any downside.  A super durable phone sounds good 
to me as an example of an upside.


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> would do this.
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> On 8/31/2016 5:29 AM, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> hey all,
>> I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the 
>> new iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
>> The latest leak I believe has credence.
>> In the box with the iPhone seven, you will get a lightning to 3.5 mm adapter 
>> witch is what i guessed apple would do if they did take the jack from the 
>> phone.
>> If this is indeed the case I am quite satisfied because at least they have 
>> made an adapter readily available.
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Barry Hadder]

Jonathan,

You might find this link helpful in regards to keybindings.
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/EventOverview/TextDefaultsBindings/TextDefaultsBindings.html
On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:18, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Note on the rest of this message, in several places below Alex speaks "the 
fifth" where I typed a Vee character. 

I was thinking about this, and realized that the standard editor functionality 
of MacOS will simulate Emacs keystrokes. 

What this means is that control-V moves down a page, and meta-V as defined in 
standard emacs moves up a page. I was able to get the control-V to work I 
believe, but either I am forgetting my emacs commands after several years of 
non-use or something else is going on. 

Does anybody remember where the definition file for this is? This is code that 
MacOs inherited from the NeXT systems.  I expect that there is a "vi mode still 
around somewhere and for those of that persuasion wouldn't it be nice to have 
VI commands in textedit and mail composition?

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn   

On 26 August 2016 at 07:01, Alex Hall > wrote:
Thanks. Interacting was one step I was missing, as I never interact with text 
unless I need vo-a to track my position. I also never knew what wrap to 
page/window in Text Edit do. Are they visual changes only, or is there 
something they do that is helpful to VO users aside from allowing page-level 
movements? For instance, does 'wrap to page' show what your document would look 
like, and where page breaks would be, when printed out on paper?

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 09:22, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
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> Hello Alex,
> 
> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
> work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
> 
> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for 
> the Page Down command to work.
> 
> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.
> 
> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
> Preview.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
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>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
>> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is 
>> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if 
>> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
>> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
>> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
>> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Bill Gallik]

When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first 
appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so 
potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.

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Re: VoiceOver Accessibility Issues for Blind Users in iOS App

[Jonathan Cohn]

That sounds like they switched from a standard button to a custom widget.
In which case, they need to adjust the Accessible Name. though it probably
indicates that they have done additional actions with the widget that would
need to be considered, probably with action a lot like the new Nearby
Explorer app.
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Apple to Release New MacBook Pro and Air as Early as October, AMD iMacs and 5K Display With LG Also in Works - Mac Rumors

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Looks like new Macs are on the way and I'm sure they will be thinner than ever. 
 :)
It's been a while since the last refresh.
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/29/new-macbook-pro-air-oct-amd-imacs-5k-display-lg/
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Re: Sending messages with Apple Watch.

[Scott Granados]

Redmond Pie is reporting 3 new watch models which will be interesting.

I have the steel model now and love it, I’d definitely get another.


> On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> When I use to have the watch, I learnt also that you could double tap with 
> two fingers and the message would go.  Like I said in a previous post, I want 
> the new generation of Watch.  If it doesn’t come out or it isn’t coming out 
> I’ll have to get a Steel watch as I won’t buy the sports model this time 
> after my last experience with the sports one.  Everyone says that Apple are 
> talking about a new watch Generation.  One with a Camera.  Even though I 
> can’t see, I’d like one just to be the same as my sighted peers.
> 
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>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 22:33, Jenny Wood > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This tripped me up in the beginning, too.  When you have the message up with 
>> the “Don’t Send” button, all you need to do is press the Crown button on the 
>> side of the watch, and that will send your message.  You should even hear 
>> the “swoosh” when the message sends.
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>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I don’t get the send message feature to work on my Apple Watch.
>>> When the text is dictated i have a message on the apple watch saying that i 
>>> send this message.
>>> Then comes the message and then a don’t send button.
>>> Where is the send button?
>>> Doesn’t it work without bluetooth?
>>> Thanks.
>>> /A
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Scott Granados]

There is also an upgraded option now for something called air pods which are 
ear pods but wireless.  Also, each pod is wireless so no wire behind the head 
for stereo, each pod works independently.  i’m sort of in to the idea will be 
exciting to see what really does surface.  It’s pretty much certain though that 
the headphone jack is gone.  Lots of leaked case designs and prototype pictures 
of the phone with nothing but a lightning port and more durable.


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> hey all,
> I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the 
> new iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
> The latest leak I believe has credence.
> In the box with the iPhone seven, you will get a lightning to 3.5 mm adapter 
> witch is what i guessed apple would do if they did take the jack from the 
> phone.
> If this is indeed the case I am quite satisfied because at least they have 
> made an adapter readily available.
> 
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VoiceOver Accessibility Issues for Blind Users in iOS App

[Mika Pyyhkala]

Hi,

I have noticed over time that the Tile iOS app has become less and
less VoiceOver accessible.

The key issue I am having is each tile name (i.e. backpack, keys,
etc.) is read by VoiceOver as:
txt_tile_name
txt_tile_name
txt_tile_name

Apple has specific programming guidelines for making iOS apps
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https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios

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Thanks,
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Re: Sending messages with Apple Watch.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It seems to work by locking the watch too.
At least i got an answer from the recipient.
/A
> On 30 Aug 2016, at 23:33, Jenny Wood  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> This tripped me up in the beginning, too.  When you have the message up with 
> the “Don’t Send” button, all you need to do is press the Crown button on the 
> side of the watch, and that will send your message.  You should even hear the 
> “swoosh” when the message sends.
> 
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>> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I don’t get the send message feature to work on my Apple Watch.
>> When the text is dictated i have a message on the apple watch saying that i 
>> send this message.
>> Then comes the message and then a don’t send button.
>> Where is the send button?
>> Doesn’t it work without bluetooth?
>> Thanks.
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

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   That was always the most common sense approach. Never doubted that 
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On 8/31/2016 5:29 AM, Michael Marshall wrote:

hey all,
I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the new 
iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
The latest leak I believe has credence.
In the box with the iPhone seven, you will get a lightning to 3.5 mm adapter 
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How to change voicemail greeting in Skype?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Can someone tell me how to do this?  I've googled it, but the instructions I 
found don't match what I'm seeing in Skype.  If possible, I'd rather do it from 
my iPhone, but I can also do it from my Mac if that's easier.
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Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Michael Marshall]

hey all,
I know there have been many leaks of supposed schematics and things on the new 
iPhone seven and if or not it will have a 3.5mm jack.
The latest leak I believe has credence.
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