Jonathan, You might find this link helpful in regards to keybindings. https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/EventOverview/TextDefaultsBindings/TextDefaultsBindings.html On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:18, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
Note on the rest of this message, in several places below Alex speaks "the fifth" where I typed a Vee character. I was thinking about this, and realized that the standard editor functionality of MacOS will simulate Emacs keystrokes. What this means is that control-V moves down a page, and meta-V as defined in standard emacs moves up a page. I was able to get the control-V to work I believe, but either I am forgetting my emacs commands after several years of non-use or something else is going on. Does anybody remember where the definition file for this is? This is code that MacOs inherited from the NeXT systems. I expect that there is a "vi mode still around somewhere and for those of that persuasion wouldn't it be nice to have VI commands in textedit and mail composition? Best Wishes, Jonathan Cohn On 26 August 2016 at 07:01, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: Thanks. Interacting was one step I was missing, as I never interact with text unless I need vo-a to track my position. I also never knew what wrap to page/window in Text Edit do. Are they visual changes only, or is there something they do that is helpful to VO users aside from allowing page-level movements? For instance, does 'wrap to page' show what your document would look like, and where page breaks would be, when printed out on paper? > On Aug 25, 2016, at 09:22, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote: > > Hello Alex, > > In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to > work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w. > > In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for > the Page Down command to work. > > The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us. > > The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in > Preview. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > >> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself >> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is >> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if >> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use >> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the >> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move >> the cursor by page. 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