RE: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes it is on the other vm work station products,

 I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
command g.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 7:45 AM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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RE: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Simon Fogarty]

As you do in the mac os terminal,

It is unix based so tab complete works fine.

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Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 7:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
> Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the 
> past, I was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this 
> task.
> I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.  


With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file names.

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RE: iPhone headset recommendations

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok, that's your business,
 Good luck to your hubby when you get a pair!

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On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 1:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone headset recommendations

I am lusting for the Airpods. Enough said there.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:52 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that is what I am waiting for. I currently use my earpods, and my cheap 
> Bluetooth earpiece when necessary.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17/11/2016, at 19:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Just a thought here,
>> 
>> And ok I don’t' think the base / treble  is going to work but what about the 
>> not yet released apple wifi earposds?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 6:40 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone headset recommendations
>> 
>> I can help you with everything but the base adjustment.  On the cordless 
>> side, the Plantronics Voyager 5220 is a fantastic headset with the best 
>> noise cancelation I’ve used so far and that’s saying something because 
>> plantronics has kick ass sound cancelation in their products for a long time 
>> now.  The battery life is good, lots of audio queues and they have a UC 
>> model that can snap in to your phone system as well as cell phone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I actually use that headset also, though the microphone is sketchy for 
>>> phone calls. I have the corded model. I had one of the original Aftershokz 
>>> bluetooth models but the power port died fairly early on.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
 
 I use a headset from Aftershokz. They are bone-conduction which means they 
 don't cover your ears. I was getting a lot of ear infections and I thought 
 maybe it was because my ears were covered for 8 hours a day. Plus I was 
 worried about the effect headphones had on my hearing. That's not 
 scientific. I know of no studies that show that wearing headphones over 
 your ears damages your hearing. But I figure bone conduction is less 
 likely to have an effect because the sound is not trapped in your ear 
 canal. Anyway, the big problem with this headset is that it has a battery. 
 It is a rechargeable battery built into the chord. That has two problems, 
 the chord has extra weight to it and you have to periodically recharge the 
 headset. You can recharge them while using them but it makes an annoying 
 buzzing sound. The rechargeable battery is pretty small and it is designed 
 to clip onto your collar so it is tolerable. All in all, I would probably 
 buy another headset like this if this one broke. But it is not ideal. It 
 does have a volume control but not a bass/treble control.
 
 I also have an Aftershokz bluetooth headphone, without a microphone. That 
 actually is really nice. It also has a battery but you'd expect that. The 
 battery life is really long and the sound quality is way better thanI 
 expected. As I said, this is just a pair of headphone but I would think 
 the bluetooth headset by the same company would pretty much be the same 
 thing only with a microphone attach.
 
 
 n 11/15/2016 03:31 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
> Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention when this thread came up earlier but now 
> I have a need for a specific type of headset.
> 
> I use my iPhone 6S for work calls and I need a good headset, money being 
> a minimal concern here, that has both a volume control separate from the 
> phone and a control for bass/trebel.
> 
> I’d take a bluetooth recommendation but prefer wired for this situation.
> 
> Thanks.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
 
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RE: iPhone headset recommendations

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Janine,

 I have the lightening headphones and I can't say I've noticed anything but 
then I haven't thought to really  concentrate on the audio quality.

But hey can always be a good thing to try.

Also I find my Bose headphones have a bit more base to them. Pricey but may be 
worth a look!

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On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 1:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone headset recommendations

I generally really like the Apple earpods and the design is fairly good in my 
ears. I am losing some low frequency hearing though and as a good bit of my job 
involves phone calls, I need to maximize my listening ability on said phone. 
Granted the best headset in the world isn’t going to make someone else’s crappy 
cell phone sound any better but at least I can try. 

I’m considering buying a pair of the lightning earpods as I hear the base is 
fuller on them.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Janine,
> 
> What is wrong with the apple headphones for your mobile?
> 
> I use mine all the time for phone calls and music etc if I need to shut 
> myself away from life in general.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 4:03 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone headset recommendations
> 
> Hi, I actually use that headset also, though the microphone is sketchy for 
> phone calls. I have the corded model. I had one of the original Aftershokz 
> bluetooth models but the power port died fairly early on.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
>> 
>> I use a headset from Aftershokz. They are bone-conduction which means they 
>> don't cover your ears. I was getting a lot of ear infections and I thought 
>> maybe it was because my ears were covered for 8 hours a day. Plus I was 
>> worried about the effect headphones had on my hearing. That's not 
>> scientific. I know of no studies that show that wearing headphones over your 
>> ears damages your hearing. But I figure bone conduction is less likely to 
>> have an effect because the sound is not trapped in your ear canal. Anyway, 
>> the big problem with this headset is that it has a battery. It is a 
>> rechargeable battery built into the chord. That has two problems, the chord 
>> has extra weight to it and you have to periodically recharge the headset. 
>> You can recharge them while using them but it makes an annoying buzzing 
>> sound. The rechargeable battery is pretty small and it is designed to clip 
>> onto your collar so it is tolerable. All in all, I would probably buy 
>> another headset like this if this one broke. But it is not ideal. It does 
>> have a volume control but not a bass/treble control.
>> 
>> I also have an Aftershokz bluetooth headphone, without a microphone. That 
>> actually is really nice. It also has a battery but you'd expect that. The 
>> battery life is really long and the sound quality is way better thanI 
>> expected. As I said, this is just a pair of headphone but I would think the 
>> bluetooth headset by the same company would pretty much be the same thing 
>> only with a microphone attach.
>> 
>> 
>> n 11/15/2016 03:31 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>> Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention when this thread came up earlier but now I 
>>> have a need for a specific type of headset.
>>> 
>>> I use my iPhone 6S for work calls and I need a good headset, money being a 
>>> minimal concern here, that has both a volume control separate from the 
>>> phone and a control for bass/trebel.
>>> 
>>> I’d take a bluetooth recommendation but prefer wired for this situation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Michael Marshall]

tried that but VO would not start on the VM, god knows what was on the screen.
will keep playing around.
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 11:56 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Crazy thought here,
>  
> If you can get to the vm and then ctrl g to grab the vm screan, can you turn 
> off vo for the host machine and then see if it gives you keyboard interaction 
> in the VM
>  
> I had this situation with one of my vm’s and turning off vo on the host 
> allowed me to grab the vm system without issues.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
> Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2016 11:56 AM
> To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion
>  
> I cannot even control a Mac virtual machine with the keyboard using fusion.
> cmd f5 starts VO on the main system.
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 12:40 am, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
>  
> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
>  
> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
> exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? 
> I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
>  
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: Can't open powerpoint in virtual machine

[Eric Brinkman]

Hello all,

Anyone have any ideas as to how I can resolve this?  I am using
Windows 7 with Jaws 18.

Thanks,
Eric

On 11/15/16, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am working on my MBA, and my professor has been using power point
> presentations that go along with his lectures.  When I try to open
> them in my virtual machine, powerpoint crashes and Jaws freezes.  Any
> ideas how I might be able to resolve this?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
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RE: control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Simon Fogarty]

Crazy thought here,

If you can get to the vm and then ctrl g to grab the vm screan, can you turn 
off vo for the host machine and then see if it gives you keyboard interaction 
in the VM

I had this situation with one of my vm’s and turning off vo on the host allowed 
me to grab the vm system without issues.



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On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2016 11:56 AM
To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

I cannot even control a Mac virtual machine with the keyboard using fusion.
cmd f5 starts VO on the main system.
On 19 Nov 2016, at 12:40 am, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it works 
but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn numpad 
commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table navigation 
in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key combination 
that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking of migrating my 
vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp partition, but then I 
expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things.

I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? I 
wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




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RE: Login Issue

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,
 Have just had notification that all going fine up to point where reset 
password window hides behind terminal 
And for the life of me I have never been able to get it to come to the front,

 Vaughans having the issue with this and hoping for a sighted assistant 
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Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2016 4:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login Issue

Chris,
Thanks, and yes I think recovery mode will work here.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:26 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> Hi
>
> Don't know, but do know single user mode is not accessible because 
> VoiceOver is not loaded in this mode. There might be a way in recovery 
> mode to manage a locked account. For example in Terminal you can type 
> resetpassword press return and you can reset the password for the local 
> account.
>
>
>> On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:34, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>   A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset 
>> it. He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.
>>
>>   While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this 
>> accessible? Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his 
>> own? He is new to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already 
>> done and begin fresh.
>>
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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Michael Marshall]

I cannot even control a Mac virtual machine with the keyboard using fusion.
cmd f5 starts VO on the main system.
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 12:40 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
> 
> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
> exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? 
> I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
> 
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

Interesting, thanks, I’m going to check out the mappings as well.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   After reading Garry's post. I decided to run into the Fusion keyboard 
> preferences. I looked at the mappings under a couple of the tabs. Command-G 
> is a valid command to grab keyboard and mouse from the Mac. Command-control 
> will ungrab and return control to the Mac.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/18/2016 5:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me 
>> at the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
>> everyone for the suggestions.
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
>>> reliably getting input captured by the VM.
>>> 
>>> What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
>>> interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
>>> read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
>>> then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.
>>> 
>>> This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
>>> because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
>>> in Sierra yet.
>>> 
>>> Garry
>>> 
>>> On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
 not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
 experimenting.
 
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 On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
>> the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
>> the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
>> nothing.
>> 
>> If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
>> it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
>>> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always ET.
>>> 
>>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
>>> with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
>>> that’s the problem.:)
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
 and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
 for now.
 
 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
 no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
 lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
 heyboard away from the Mac.
 
 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
 wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
 focused on the VM again.
 
 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
 full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
 Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
 mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
 pressing Mac keystrokes.
 
 Did this make sense?
 
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 On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Hi, I wanted to confirm

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   After reading Garry's post. I decided to run into the Fusion 
keyboard preferences. I looked at the mappings under a couple of the 
tabs. Command-G is a valid command to grab keyboard and mouse from the 
Mac. Command-control will ungrab and return control to the Mac.


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  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/18/2016 5:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me at 
the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
everyone for the suggestions.


On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:

I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
reliably getting input captured by the VM.

What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.

This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
in Sierra yet.

Garry

On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:

   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
experimenting.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
nothing.

 If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
that’s the problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
for now.

Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
heyboard away from the Mac.

This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
focused on the VM again.

So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
pressing Mac keystrokes.

Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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RE: Login Issue

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks ET, have given instructions and my contacts plus he's got a few others 
making offers also.

 We have the technology to rebuild him!



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Yes the same.

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On 11/18/2016 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> ET would this friend by any chance be in the region of NZ?
>
>  I've agot a similar issue at this end with a Kiwi user and yes is the answer 
> to resetting a admin password.
>
>  If it is who I'm thinking of then have them contact me via NZ posting 
> as I've already advised this user and I can assist with it
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon F
>
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher 
> hallsworth
> Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 7:26 PM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Login Issue
>
> Hi
>
> Don't know, but do know single user mode is not accessible because VoiceOver 
> is not loaded in this mode. There might be a way in recovery mode to manage a 
> locked account. For example in Terminal you can type resetpassword press 
> return and you can reset the password for the local account.
>
>
>> On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:34, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>   A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset 
>> it. He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.
>>
>>   While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this 
>> accessible? Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his 
>> own? He is new to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already 
>> done and begin fresh.
>>
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Re: VoiceOver just stops out of nowhere on Sierra

[E.T.]

   It happens and while annoying, pressing command f5 will toggle VO 
off and on again.


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On 11/18/2016 9:45 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

Guys,

I realize I never visit this forum.  But I’ve got a real head scratcher.  I 
just upgraded my 2010 Mac mini to Sierra and had an SSD installed.  Curiously, 
I’ll just be typing along when VO will stop dead.  I have some vision.  So, I 
know that VO is still turned on because, when I press VO, Command Left or Right 
Arrow, I see the various options that VO would speak, Voice, Volume, Pitch, 
etc.  The only solution seems to be to restart the computer.  What’s the deal?

Also, I notice that VO F8 doesn’t bring up VoiceOver Utility as I would expect 
it would.

Since I don’t visit this forum anymore, I’d be very grateful if respondents 
would copy me at my e-mail:
kevj...@gmail.com

Thanks for any help,
Kevin



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VoiceOver just stops out of nowhere on Sierra

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I realize I never visit this forum.  But I’ve got a real head scratcher.  I 
just upgraded my 2010 Mac mini to Sierra and had an SSD installed.  Curiously, 
I’ll just be typing along when VO will stop dead.  I have some vision.  So, I 
know that VO is still turned on because, when I press VO, Command Left or Right 
Arrow, I see the various options that VO would speak, Voice, Volume, Pitch, 
etc.  The only solution seems to be to restart the computer.  What’s the deal?

Also, I notice that VO F8 doesn’t bring up VoiceOver Utility as I would expect 
it would.  

Since I don’t visit this forum anymore, I’d be very grateful if respondents 
would copy me at my e-mail:
kevj...@gmail.com

Thanks for any help,
Kevin

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Re: Login Issue

[E.T.]

   Yes the same.

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On 11/18/2016 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

ET would this friend by any chance be in the region of NZ?

 I've agot a similar issue at this end with a Kiwi user and yes is the answer 
to resetting a admin password.

 If it is who I'm thinking of then have them contact me via NZ posting as I've 
already advised this user and I can assist with it

Cheers,


Simon F


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Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 7:26 PM
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Subject: Re: Login Issue

Hi

Don't know, but do know single user mode is not accessible because VoiceOver is 
not loaded in this mode. There might be a way in recovery mode to manage a 
locked account. For example in Terminal you can type resetpassword press return 
and you can reset the password for the local account.



On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:34, E.T.  wrote:

  A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset it. 
He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.

  While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this accessible? 
Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his own? He is new 
to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already done and begin 
fresh.

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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Garry Turkington]

Have you looked at the Fusion keyboard options to see if some of the
default options are causing problems? I don't see  the sort of issues
you describe.

One example - in Preferences->Keyboard and Mouse->Mac Host Shortcuts
there's a bunch of default key combos that will be sent to OS X and
not the guest VM. I disabled most of these for a happier life.

Also the out-of-the-box key mapping  will map the  ctrl and alt keys
to ctrl and option on the Mac keyboard, i.e. the VO keys. I set option
to map to the windows  key and command to alt to avoid this issue. If
you have VO running while in the VM this will be a pain otherwise.

Garry

On 11/18/16, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> Yeah, I do that but it can be quite PITA.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can’t you pass control alt delete and other control alt combinations by
>> picking them from the list under the virtual machine section of the menu
>> bar.  Below restart and shutdown there’s a list of commands you can send.
>>
>> Just a possible suggestion all be it a pain.
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that
>>> involve control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use
>>> command-G it works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes
>>> I have to turn numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key
>>> work fine (table navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I
>>> can't get any key combination that includes control -alt to be passed to
>>> my VM. I am thinking of migrating my vm that contains development
>>> environments into a bootcamp partition, but then I expect I'll have to
>>> re-license quite a few things.
>>>
>>> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard
>>> to be exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on
>>> this perhaps? I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my
>>> system.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Podcast can be created on the Mac with QuickTime and GarageBand which are both 
very accessible.  The article below outlines things, although it's from a 
visual prospective and a little outdated as it refers to an app named Podcast 
Capture which is no longer on your Mac.  The basics are there though and with a 
little investigation, you should be able to do everything you need to make a 
quality podcast.

http://www.chriswrites.com/how-to-record-voice-podcasts-on-the-mac/ 


Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2016, at 06:47, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

OK, in that case, I'd recommend an app called Amadeus Pro.

To learn more about using the app, there's an mp3 tutorial you can get through

http://www.mosen.org

As you can probably guess, yes, it's by Jonathan Mosen, who I have a huge! 
amount of support/respect for! I only try recommending the best to people, and 
trust me, his Amadeus Maestro ebook is steller! Very, and I do mean, very! 
very! worth the investment!
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- Original Message - From: "Shannon Dyer" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Podcasting on the Mac?


I'm needing tools for creating the podcast. Recording interviews, editing, 
creating the necessary documentation, etc.

Shannon

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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> 
> Are you wanting tools to listen to the podcast, or more for creating the 
> podcast? Let's start there.
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> - Original Message - From: "Shannon Dyer" 
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> Subject: Podcasting on the Mac?
> 
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
> using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there 
> for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: Login Issue

[E.T.]

Chris,
   Thanks, and yes I think recovery mode will work here.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:26 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi

Don't know, but do know single user mode is not accessible because VoiceOver is 
not loaded in this mode. There might be a way in recovery mode to manage a 
locked account. For example in Terminal you can type
resetpassword
press return and you can reset the password for the local account.



On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:34, E.T.  wrote:

  A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset it. 
He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.

  While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this accessible? 
Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his own? He is new 
to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already done and begin 
fresh.

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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Todor Fassl]

One cool thing bout the Bluez2 is that you can wear them backward and 
look like Geordi Laforge.


I've worn my Aftershokz Bluez2 for hours and hours while working in my 
garden. I got really sweaty and had no problems withthe headset. There 
is a version of the Bluez2 for children. Maybe that's why someone got


some that are too tight?




On 11/18/2016 05:10 AM, Gilland Marketing wrote:

from what I hear, the headset is actually very very comfortable. I have a 
couple of friends, of which I know at least one is on this list. They have this 
headset, and swear by it. Ben, can you chime in here? I can see this. If they 
are anything like that Bluez 2S, then they will be quite comfy. The sound 
quality, well, I agree. There could be some more low in frequencies, but for 
what it's worth, it sounds really good. i've definitely heard better, but I've 
also heard way way worse. Trust me.

Chris.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 18, 2016, at 03:48, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an hour 
with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble opinion the 
sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no bass or treble 
at all.
That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
/Krister


18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke at 
least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz there 
was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife has a pair 
that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the time.  The Trekz 
Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you could break them if 
you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck band is less than 1/4 
inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably wider around the back.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:

How do those differ and why are they more durable?


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  wrote:

Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and are 
much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my head all 
the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you spend time in loud 
environments such as a bus, train, or crowded restaurant.  Mine shipped with a 
pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats the purpose of the headset but is a 
good solution if you’re somewhere safe and for the moment don’t need to hear 
what’s around you.  They are best for their advertised purpose of leaving your 
ears open.  However, as my wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the 
headset will still distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on 
around you.  That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than mine.  
If I have to start commuting again, I may prefer something that works better on 
the train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz
and highly recommend them.


On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:

I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.



Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Hi,

Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it easy to 
pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their performance?  I've only 
just come across them and thought they might be rather useful as they wouldn't 
cut out the ambient noise - an important factor if I walk around the house.  
With headset that fit into my ear or cover my ears, I either have to use just 
one ear or otherwise bump into furniture and doors.

Andrew

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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Todor Fassl]

Scp and sftp are built on top of ssh. You'd rarely find an OS that has 
ssh but not scp and sftp.




On 11/18/2016 07:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

whooo! I knew it had ftp, and that it had ssh, but I didn't realize it
had sftp. That's awesome!
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- Original Message - From: "Dan D." 
To: "Nektarios Mallas" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.




Terminal has ftp and sftp.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nektarios Mallas wrote:


Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work
well with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working
very well with jaws.
Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Jonathan Cohn]

Yeah, I do that but it can be quite PITA.

Thanks!

Jonathan Cohn 



> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Can’t you pass control alt delete and other control alt combinations by 
> picking them from the list under the virtual machine section of the menu bar. 
>  Below restart and shutdown there’s a list of commands you can send.
> 
> Just a possible suggestion all be it a pain.
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
>> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
>> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
>> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
>> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
>> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
>> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
>> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
>> 
>> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to 
>> be exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this 
>> perhaps? I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
>> 
>>  
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, in that case, I'd recommend an app called Amadeus Pro.

To learn more about using the app, there's an mp3 tutorial you can get 
through


http://www.mosen.org

As you can probably guess, yes, it's by Jonathan Mosen, who I have a huge! 
amount of support/respect for! I only try recommending the best to people, 
and trust me, his Amadeus Maestro ebook is steller! Very, and I do mean, 
very! very! worth the investment!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Shannon Dyer" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Podcasting on the Mac?


I'm needing tools for creating the podcast. Recording interviews, editing, 
creating the necessary documentation, etc.


Shannon

On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Are you wanting tools to listen to the podcast, or more for creating the 
podcast? Let's start there.

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Hi, all.

A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. 
I’m using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out 
there for this purpose. Can someone please advise?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Scott Granados]

How would you have ssh and not sftp or SCP?  It’s all part of the open ssh 
package.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> whooo! I knew it had ftp, and that it had ssh, but I didn't realize it had 
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> 
>> 
>> Terminal has ftp and sftp.
>> 
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
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>>> Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
>>> with voice over.
>>> In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very 
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>>> Any help is very much appreciated.
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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Scott Granados]

Can’t you pass control alt delete and other control alt combinations by picking 
them from the list under the virtual machine section of the menu bar.  Below 
restart and shutdown there’s a list of commands you can send.

Just a possible suggestion all be it a pain.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
> 
> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
> exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? 
> I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
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Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Shannon Dyer]

I'm needing tools for creating the podcast. Recording interviews, editing, 
creating the necessary documentation, etc.

Shannon

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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> Are you wanting tools to listen to the podcast, or more for creating the 
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> Hi, all.
> 
> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
> using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there 
> for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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control alt delete and VM Fusion

[Jonathan Cohn]

I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it works 
but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn numpad 
commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table navigation 
in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key combination 
that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking of migrating my 
vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp partition, but then I 
expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 

I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? I 
wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.

 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 




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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Aa, symbolic links. Good point. I'd forgotten all about those.
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From: "Dan D." 

To: "Nektarios Mallas" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.




If experienced in unix you know a simple alias will perform the entire ftp 
or sftp process.  You can have as many as you wish for as many remote 
sources you want.


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nektarios Mallas wrote:



Hi Scott.
Well, i? d rather not.
As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I was really hoping for 
an accessible graphical user interface for this task.

I really don? t want to have to type long file names.
Thanks any way.

Nektarios.

On 17 Nov 2016, at 19:40, Scott Granados  
wrote:


Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You 
can go to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and 
the complete suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and 
moving files.


Hope that helps.


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Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working 
very well with jaws.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

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whooo! I knew it had ftp, and that it had ssh, but I didn't realize it had 
sftp. That's awesome!

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To: "Nektarios Mallas" 
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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.




Terminal has ftp and sftp.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nektarios Mallas wrote:


Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working 
very well with jaws.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me at 
the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
everyone for the suggestions.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:
> 
> I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
> reliably getting input captured by the VM.
> 
> What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
> interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
> read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
> then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.
> 
> This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
> because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
> in Sierra yet.
> 
> Garry
> 
> On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
>>I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
>> not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
>> experimenting.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
>>> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
>>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
 the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
 the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
 nothing.
 
  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
 it.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
> 
> Thanks as always ET.
> 
> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
> with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
> that’s the problem.:)
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
>> and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
>> for now.
>> 
>> Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
>> no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
>> lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
>> heyboard away from the Mac.
>> 
>> This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
>> wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
>> focused on the VM again.
>> 
>> So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
>> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
>> Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
>> mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
>> pressing Mac keystrokes.
>> 
>> Did this make sense?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
>>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
 and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
 the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
> sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
> in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
> can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
> vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
> wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Scott Granados]

Yes, the were showing them off on Fox News this morning.  The article was a guy 
from the Men’s Journal was demoing a pair for sale for the holiday season.  So 
I suspect we’re very close, I hear by month’s end but we’ll see.  

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 5:12 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I've gotta ask seeing this post late, 
> 
> But has anyone heard anything more about the apple ear pods?
> 
> I want my apple wifi ear pods!!
> 
> Prefereably before I go to austrailia in 3 weeks! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 9:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset
> 
> Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an 
> hour with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble 
> opinion the sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no 
> bass or treble at all.
> That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
> /Krister
> 
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
>> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
>> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
>> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the 
>> time.  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you 
>> could break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck 
>> band is less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably 
>> wider around the back.  
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
 wrote:
 
 Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz 
 Titanium.  The Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz 
 was good about replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made 
 differently and are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and 
 leave them on my head all the time when I go out.  You may find them 
 inadequate if you spend time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or 
 crowded restaurant.  Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather 
 defeats the purpose of the headset but is a good solution if you’re 
 somewhere safe and for the moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  
 They are best for their advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  
 However, as my wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the headset 
 will still distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on 
 around you.  That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than 
 mine.  If I have to start commuting again, I may prefer something that 
 works better on the train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz and highly 
 recommend them.
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
> improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
>> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
>> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
>> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
>> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
>> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
>> furniture and doors.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Dan D.]

All the things you do now in that remote shell are just a command away on 
your local mac's shell .


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Karen Lewellen wrote:


very much Scott, thanks for providing that information.
Shellworld is a Linux /UNIX  shell service.  Currently I can log in here
not from  windows,  and have access to all the things I store and use as
part  of the service.
I had wondered, if I ever manage a workable mac environment , How I would
still  reach my workspace.
 Nice to know it would be an effortless situation.
Cheers,
Kare


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


Hi Kare, yes pretty much it does.  You drop in to a window with a prompt 
reminiscent of the old windows days for folks non familiar but with a unix type 
prompt instead and a bash shell.  The voice stays the same and the features 
pretty much stay the same.  I like it, others run a virtual environment like 
ubuntu and use that instead but for me this works out pretty well.

Hope that helps.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Scott,
may I ask a silly question...perhaps?
Does voiceover  work the same in terminal mode as it does with the rest of the  
 system?
meaning your functionality, voice choices, remain when you are in terminal?
thanks,
Kare


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can go 
to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the complete 
suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving files.

Hope that helps.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very well 
with jaws.
Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Scott Granados]

It’s also very scriptable.  You can automate the entire process, put it in Cron 
and set a lot of things up with 0 user intervention.  Of course, the original 
poster wanted something graphical so this isn’t it but yes I’m with you love 
the flexibility of the CLI.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Dan D.  wrote:
> 
> 
> If experienced in unix you know a simple alias will perform the entire ftp or 
> sftp process.  You can have as many as you wish for as many remote sources 
> you want.
> 
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Scott.
>> Well, i? d rather not.
>> As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I was really hoping for an 
>> accessible graphical user interface for this task.
>> I really don? t want to have to type long file names.
>> Thanks any way.
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 19:40, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can 
>>> go to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the 
>>> complete suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving 
>>> files.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> 
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 Hi guys.
 Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
 with voice over.
 In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very 
 well with jaws.
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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

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If experienced in unix you know a simple alias will perform the entire ftp 
or sftp process.  You can have as many as you wish for as many remote 
sources you want.


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Nektarios Mallas wrote:



Hi Scott.
Well, i? d rather not.
As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I was really hoping for an 
accessible graphical user interface for this task.
I really don? t want to have to type long file names.
Thanks any way.

Nektarios.


On 17 Nov 2016, at 19:40, Scott Granados  wrote:

Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can go 
to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the complete 
suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving files.

Hope that helps.



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Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very well 
with jaws.
Any help is very much appreciated.

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Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

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Terminal has ftp and sftp.

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Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
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In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very well 
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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

I don’t notice any real difference there, but i have not had that problem.  I 
have them on some days for hours at a time.  They do come in different sizes, 
though at this moment I can’t get the web site to show me anything but 
“regular”.  Music is passable on them but you’ll probably never get audiophile 
satisfying quality from this technology.  Mostly I use mine for interacting 
with the phone and for books.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an 
> hour with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble 
> opinion the sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no 
> bass or treble at all.
> That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
> /Krister
> 
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
>> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
>> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
>> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the 
>> time.  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you 
>> could break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck 
>> band is less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably 
>> wider around the back.  
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
 wrote:
 
 Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
 Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
 replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and 
 are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my 
 head all the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you 
 spend time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or crowded 
 restaurant.  Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats 
 the purpose of the headset but is a good solution if you’re somewhere safe 
 and for the moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  They are best 
 for their advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  However, as my 
 wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the headset will still 
 distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on around you.  
 That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than mine.  If I have 
 to start commuting again, I may prefer something that works better on the 
 train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz 
 and highly recommend them.
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
> improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
>> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
>> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
>> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
>> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
>> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
>> furniture and doors.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[David Chittenden]

Based on some things I have read, and having worked in the industry 15 years 
ago, my bet is Apple had a supplier have difficulties procuring enough of a 
necessary component. rumor has it that we should start seeing product trickle 
in next month. Apple does not usually place blame on suppliers. In fact, they 
are famous for being closed mouthed. I hope the product comes sooner rather 
than later.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 18/11/2016, at 20:12, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I've gotta ask seeing this post late, 
> 
> But has anyone heard anything more about the apple ear pods?
> 
> I want my apple wifi ear pods!!
> 
> Prefereably before I go to austrailia in 3 weeks! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 9:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset
> 
> Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an 
> hour with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble 
> opinion the sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no 
> bass or treble at all.
> That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
> /Krister
> 
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
>> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
>> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
>> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the 
>> time.  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you 
>> could break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck 
>> band is less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably 
>> wider around the back.  
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
 wrote:
 
 Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz 
 Titanium.  The Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz 
 was good about replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made 
 differently and are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and 
 leave them on my head all the time when I go out.  You may find them 
 inadequate if you spend time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or 
 crowded restaurant.  Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather 
 defeats the purpose of the headset but is a good solution if you’re 
 somewhere safe and for the moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  
 They are best for their advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  
 However, as my wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the headset 
 will still distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on 
 around you.  That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than 
 mine.  If I have to start commuting again, I may prefer something that 
 works better on the train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz and highly 
 recommend them.
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
> improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
>> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
>> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
>> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
>> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
>> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
>> furniture and doors.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Gilland Marketing]

from what I hear, the headset is actually very very comfortable. I have a 
couple of friends, of which I know at least one is on this list. They have this 
headset, and swear by it. Ben, can you chime in here? I can see this. If they 
are anything like that Bluez 2S, then they will be quite comfy. The sound 
quality, well, I agree. There could be some more low in frequencies, but for 
what it's worth, it sounds really good. i've definitely heard better, but I've 
also heard way way worse. Trust me.

Chris.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 03:48, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an 
> hour with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble 
> opinion the sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no 
> bass or treble at all.
> That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
> /Krister
> 
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
>> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
>> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
>> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the 
>> time.  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you 
>> could break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck 
>> band is less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably 
>> wider around the back.  
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
 wrote:
 
 Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
 Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
 replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and 
 are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my 
 head all the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you 
 spend time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or crowded 
 restaurant.  Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats 
 the purpose of the headset but is a good solution if you’re somewhere safe 
 and for the moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  They are best 
 for their advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  However, as my 
 wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the headset will still 
 distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on around you.  
 That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than mine.  If I have 
 to start commuting again, I may prefer something that works better on the 
 train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz 
 and highly recommend them.
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
> improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
>> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
>> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
>> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
>> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
>> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
>> furniture and doors.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Gilland Marketing]

hello Simon.

I don't think that Apple is saying anything more than what we already know. 
They're being quite hushed on the situation. I agree with you that this is very 
annoying!

I do not even think that they have given us an ETA as to when they will be 
available.

Chris.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 05:12, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I've gotta ask seeing this post late, 
> 
> But has anyone heard anything more about the apple ear pods?
> 
> I want my apple wifi ear pods!!
> 
> Prefereably before I go to austrailia in 3 weeks! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 9:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset
> 
> Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an 
> hour with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble 
> opinion the sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no 
> bass or treble at all.
> That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
> /Krister
> 
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
>> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
>> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
>> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the 
>> time.  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you 
>> could break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck 
>> band is less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably 
>> wider around the back.  
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
 wrote:
 
 Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz 
 Titanium.  The Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz 
 was good about replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made 
 differently and are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and 
 leave them on my head all the time when I go out.  You may find them 
 inadequate if you spend time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or 
 crowded restaurant.  Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather 
 defeats the purpose of the headset but is a good solution if you’re 
 somewhere safe and for the moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  
 They are best for their advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  
 However, as my wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the headset 
 will still distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on 
 around you.  That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than 
 mine.  If I have to start commuting again, I may prefer something that 
 works better on the train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz and highly 
 recommend them.
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
> improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
>> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
>> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
>> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
>> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
>> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
>> furniture and doors.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
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RE: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Simon Fogarty]

I would have thought  
Very carefully and slowly,

Take it out for dinner and  a movie or may be a coffee one day.

 Possibly buy it flowers 

 

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 5:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

Exactly. If it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

E.T. writes:
> Kawal,
>This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its 
> also how the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can 
> take it hostage and demand a ransom.
> 
>The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete 
> these emails permanently as soon as you receive it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.
> > 
> > I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
> > personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.
> > 
> > Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
> > e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this 
> > e-mail is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm 
> > tempted if it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.
> > 
> > But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail 
> > especially if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like 
> > someone's opinion for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult 
> > to tell.
> > 
> > I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
> > from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a 
> > list to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired 
> > which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be 
> > impaired.  So please forgive me for this.
> > 
> > Time sensitive...
> > By using this free method just once, you will need a checking 
> > account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.
> > 
> > I already made sure yours is ready here:
> > ==>> Check it out here!
> > 
> > Click inside to activate this so your checking account can receive 
> > deposits
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving updates, you can 
> > unsubscribe here
> > 
> > All Rights Reserved.
> > 
> > I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it 
> > was not so you see my anxiety about this thing.
> > 
> > Kawal.
> > 
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RE: Login Issue

[Simon Fogarty]

Oh yeah single user mode is crap for us vo users it doesn't work 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 5:34 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Login Issue

A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset 
it. He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.

While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this accessible? 
Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his own? He is new 
to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already done and begin 
fresh.

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RE: Login Issue

[Simon Fogarty]

ET would this friend by any chance be in the region of NZ?

 I've agot a similar issue at this end with a Kiwi user and yes is the answer 
to resetting a admin password.

 If it is who I'm thinking of then have them contact me via NZ posting as I've 
already advised this user and I can assist with it 

Cheers,


Simon F


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 7:26 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Login Issue

Hi

Don't know, but do know single user mode is not accessible because VoiceOver is 
not loaded in this mode. There might be a way in recovery mode to manage a 
locked account. For example in Terminal you can type resetpassword press return 
and you can reset the password for the local account.


> On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:34, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset 
> it. He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.
> 
>   While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this accessible? 
> Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his own? He is 
> new to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already done and 
> begin fresh.
> 
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RE: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Simon Fogarty]

I've gotta ask seeing this post late, 

But has anyone heard anything more about the apple ear pods?

 I want my apple wifi ear pods!!

 Prefereably before I go to austrailia in 3 weeks! 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 9:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an hour 
with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble opinion the 
sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no bass or treble 
at all.
That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
/Krister

> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
> 
> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the time. 
>  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you could 
> break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck band is 
> less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably wider around 
> the back.  
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>> 
>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz 
>>> Titanium.  The Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz 
>>> was good about replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made 
>>> differently and are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and 
>>> leave them on my head all the time when I go out.  You may find them 
>>> inadequate if you spend time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or 
>>> crowded restaurant.  Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather 
>>> defeats the purpose of the headset but is a good solution if you’re 
>>> somewhere safe and for the moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  
>>> They are best for their advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  
>>> However, as my wife would tell you, what you are hearing in the headset 
>>> will still distract you and possibly cause you to miss what’s going on 
>>> around you.  That’s a brain issue, and perhaps others’ are better than 
>>> mine.  If I have to start commuting again, I may prefer something that 
>>> works better on the train, but otherwise I love my Aftershokz and highly 
>>> recommend them.
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
 
 I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
 improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
> furniture and doors.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Garry Turkington]

I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
reliably getting input captured by the VM.

What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.

This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
in Sierra yet.

Garry

On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
> I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
> not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
> experimenting.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
>> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
>>> the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
>>> the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>>   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
>>> it.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
 shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.

 Thanks as always ET.

 And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
 with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
 that’s the problem.:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>
> Scott,
>  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
> and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
> for now.
>
>  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
> no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
> lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
> heyboard away from the Mac.
>
>  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
> wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
> focused on the VM again.
>
>  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
> Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
> mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
> pressing Mac keystrokes.
>
>  Did this make sense?
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
>>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
>>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
 allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
 sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
 in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
 can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
 vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
 wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

 Thank you

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Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Krister Ekstrom]

Do the Trekz titanium sit as tight on the head as the Bluez 2S do? Half an hour 
with those on and i get a serious headache and in my not so humble opinion the 
sound quality just isn’t fit for music with only midrange and no bass or treble 
at all.
That’s me though and the mileage may vary.
/Krister

> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 00:50 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
> 
> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the time. 
>  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you could 
> break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck band is 
> less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably wider around 
> the back.  
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>> 
>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
>>> Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
>>> replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and 
>>> are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my 
>>> head all the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you spend 
>>> time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or crowded restaurant.  
>>> Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats the purpose of 
>>> the headset but is a good solution if you’re somewhere safe and for the 
>>> moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  They are best for their 
>>> advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  However, as my wife would 
>>> tell you, what you are hearing in the headset will still distract you and 
>>> possibly cause you to miss what’s going on around you.  That’s a brain 
>>> issue, and perhaps others’ are better than mine.  If I have to start 
>>> commuting again, I may prefer something that works better on the train, but 
>>> otherwise I love my Aftershokz 
>>> and highly recommend them.
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
 
 I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
 improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
> furniture and doors.
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: KNFB Reader on Iphone

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much for all ur replies, but what is bespecular?
I can not find it

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> I really like the sounds on that board but how do you find it as far
> as ease of use goes without being able to read the display? I assume
> there is no accessible editor/librarian like there is with the Yamaha
> Motif series...
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/17/16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> It does not read my roland FA 08 keyboard screen.
>> Sadly.
>> /A
>>> 16 nov. 2016 kl. 07:41 skrev Simon Fogarty :
>>> 
>>> Yeah use my KNFB reader all the time for reading notebook screans and if
>>> needed my desktop screan.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> ] On Behalf Of becky knaub
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2016 2:27 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on Iphone
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm not sure if it will or not. Sometimes things like that will but if
>>> there's any kind of glare or anything it won't. I would suggest if you
>>> need to read the computer screen using TapTapSee, Be My Eyes or
>>> BeSpecular. I have used TapTapSee and Be My Eyes to read things on the
>>> computer that VoiceOver wasn't reading.
>>> 
>>> Becky and Hazel
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:56 AM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have had luck with this as well as reading screens of devices with
>>> dedicated LCD or LED screens that don’t have any sort of accessibility
>>> features.
>>> 
>>> To be honest, KNFB reader always surprises me with what it actually reads.
>>> The iPhone 7+ does a very good job as well but I’ve had remarkable
>>> results from the 6 forward.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:16 AM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> of cores everyone is searching to  find the best accessibility tools
>>> to help surviving in life, and I read about the KNFB reader on Iphone,
>>> the only thing that will make me buy it is, does it read the computer
>>> screen, if I  found something that I could not read with Voice over?
>>> this is the most important part for me. because,  the KNFB reader will
>>> not read Arabic, but if it can read the computer screen, I will buy it
>>> now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Music instructor @:
>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
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>>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
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