RE: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

The voyager 5220  ok I’ll have a look around for it.

I thought the legend was older than old and pretty much off the market,

Have they kept it up to date?

Cheers,


Ps. These headsets will need to change now that Bluetooth 5 has been given the 
green light for release to devices.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2016 1:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

Simon, you want to go with a Plantronics Voyager 5220.  This headset is the 
newest in the voyager line, supports the later bluetooth standards and works 
very very well.  The Voyager legend is the second best option and not by much 
it’s also a very good headset.  The 5220 is just the newest model and the one 
I’m using presently.  You can also adjust some of the features like whether the 
incoming call ID is spoken or not, the audio profile used for calls and so on 
and so forth to improve the performance as well.  The firmware is not that big 
of an issue and usually are more bug fixes than audio performance changes.

Good luck.

On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:42 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Was that only last week?
Hell I thought it was a couple of weeks ago.

Oh well yeah guessing it will be around the new year, shame things shut down 
around that time here.

From: 
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 On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 7:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

I read that email from Tim Cook. It was published last week. Tim said they 
should start coming in a few weeks. In the US, few weeks often means three 
weeks, so I am hoping they will start shipping the week after Xmas.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/12/2016, at 18:52, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi David,

Thanks for that and it looks like a problem across Bluetooth devices rather 
than just the Plantronics edge and IOS 10.

I’ve completely updated the firmware on the edge and nothing with the delay has 
changed for the good if anything I find the delay in switching between synced 
devices such as iPhone and iPad  is even worse
 To the fact that the phone takes about 10 seconds to pick up a connection .

Anyway guess I’ll keep waiting for the apple earpods also, I’m just getting 
sick of waiting and until now not having heard what the delay was.

If this information is correct then it’s good to hear,

If only they will be out before xmas so I can order a set or 2.

Interesting that a couple of weeks ago someone had an email from people thought 
tim cook saying they would be out around now,
And this info you mention,
Hasn’t yet put a release time on them.

Heres hoping

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 On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 2:19 PM
To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

Simon,

I used to use the S530, which I purchased off of eBay. It is a very inexpensive 
earpiece, and typically lasted 6 months. Unfortunately, they updated it and it 
now has a much more significant delay. The older unit had just a minimal delay 
such that I could type messages using the onscreen keyboard with it.

A friend acquired the extremely pricy Motorola Verve bluetooth earpieces for 
his birthday. I tried them and they had quite good musical playback. 
Unfortunately, they had a bad delay as well. So, I am suspecting something 
about the new Bluetooth chipset, as both devices claim Bluetooth 4.2.

I have gone back to using my wired earpods until the Airpods are released.

By the way, we finally learned why the AirPods became delayed. A couple days 
after Apple's September event, someone asked a question about what happens if 
one AirPod gets lost, will Apple sell a single replacement? Apple tested the 
concept and discovered that the current internal configuration would not permit 
this. So, they stopped the production line whilst solving the problem. 
Apparently, the problem has now been corrected, and they are starting the 
production line again. The info about this was printed a couple days ago, but I 
do not remember which paper broke the story. Personally, I would have preferred 
it if Apple would have just come clean at the time, but that's Apple's secrecy 
a bit over-the-top.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 13/12/2016, at 13:24, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi 

RE: Iphone stuttering, frequency, triggers, recurrence

[Simon Fogarty]

American?

 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2016 2:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone stuttering, frequency, triggers, recurrence

Now, now . . . :) How does one explain Alex then? *Wink*.
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Well there you go,
> It's got an austrailian voice, it therrfore has trouble speaking English 
> without sounding like a circular saw cutting through corogated iron roofing!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 7:09 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone stuttering, frequency, triggers, recurrence
> 
> Speaking only for myself, of course, I have an iPhone 6, using the latest 
> iOS, with the Australian male voice by default, but this has happened with 
> Alex as well. Not compressed, and with or without apps in the background.
> Christine
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, what voice are you using and are you using the compact or full 
>> uncompressed voice?  I have not experienced this but I’m running the 7+ with 
>> the latest processor so it may be an issue of horse power.  Do you have a 
>> lot of apps running in the background?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vo stuttering seems to happen when using the phone following accessing apps.
>>> Disabling vo and re-engaging sets vo temporarily right.
>>> The vo stuttering sounds the way a Windows speech synth does when two 
>>> iterations of synths  run simultaneously.
>>> Anyone experiencing this?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: fonts in text edit and sharing documents with iPhone

[David Chittenden]

If using Pages, and using iCloud, and both devices are using the same iCloud 
account, and Pages is backing up to iCloud, open pages on the iOS device and 
Pages will be able to access the file.

I also do the same using Google Docs with Google Drive.

Kind regards,

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> On 14/12/2016, at 19:51, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I work on a weekly news letter that contains content that comes to me from 
> many different sources. As a result it apparently also comes in many 
> different font sizes and I would like to try to make the font size uniform. 
> This was not pointed out to me until recently and of course as a VO user I 
> haven't ever really paid attention to that. 
> 
> OK, so now here is my problem. I have found the command in text edit to 
> change font size by pressing command with either dash or plus. I assumed that 
> if I did a command a to select all then either of these commands it would 
> change the font for the entire document to what I wanted it to be. Apparently 
> it isn't doing that. Does anyone know why or what I need to do differently?
> 
> Now the next dilemma I am facing is that when I have to send this out to a 
> couple of different email lists I am not always necessarily with my computer 
> and internet access. So, what is the best method any of you have found for 
> sharing a document from the mac to an iPhone so that I could copy all the 
> text from the document and paste it in to the body of an email? I have tried 
> dropbox and don't appear to be able to select the text from the document.
> 
> I am using OS 10.9.5 maverics on a late 2011 macbook pro and an iPhone 7 
> running iOS 10.2.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Gabe
> 
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fonts in text edit and sharing documents with iPhone

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi all,
I work on a weekly news letter that contains content that comes to me from many 
different sources. As a result it apparently also comes in many different font 
sizes and I would like to try to make the font size uniform. This was not 
pointed out to me until recently and of course as a VO user I haven't ever 
really paid attention to that. 

OK, so now here is my problem. I have found the command in text edit to change 
font size by pressing command with either dash or plus. I assumed that if I did 
a command a to select all then either of these commands it would change the 
font for the entire document to what I wanted it to be. Apparently it isn't 
doing that. Does anyone know why or what I need to do differently?

Now the next dilemma I am facing is that when I have to send this out to a 
couple of different email lists I am not always necessarily with my computer 
and internet access. So, what is the best method any of you have found for 
sharing a document from the mac to an iPhone so that I could copy all the text 
from the document and paste it in to the body of an email? I have tried dropbox 
and don't appear to be able to select the text from the document.

I am using OS 10.9.5 maverics on a late 2011 macbook pro and an iPhone 7 
running iOS 10.2.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Gabe


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Re: Amadeus Pro Versus Audacity? accessibility, fx and so on

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello all again:
related to my post:

I found a very great site with great tutorial on Amadeus Pro.
Thanks for all that makes this great thing
https://blindabilities.com/badcast/quick-hit-overview-of-amadeus-pro-for-the-mac/

On 12/13/16, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> Hello  all my Friends:
>
> I'm using pro tools on mac, but I need an easier app to use it in my
> studio, just to record 1 track for a narrater or speaker that record
> some novels etc.
> I looked at sound forge on mac, and I listend to a very very great
> podcast, it sounds great, but my only problem is the effects, I need
> to do what I always do, I can incert an effect just for recording and
> for the speaker to listen to himself, and I can remove this effect
> while editing and so on, or may change it completely, because in pro
> tools or sonar, the effect has  seprat channel.
> so my main concern now is a good program that can produce commercial
> product,  very  good in accessibility with Voice over, specially in
> editing and reading the beek meter,  also, can seprat the effect on
> the channel
> what is the best, Audacity or Amadeus Pro? or you have another choice?
>
> Thanks and sorry for m,y long post.
>
>
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> Faculty ofmusical education
> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
> Harmony Recording Studio
> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
>


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Re: Problem with MarsEdit Editor

[Brandon A. Olivares]

Thanks. But then what’s the point of paying for MarsEdit? Why not just paste it 
in Wordpress?
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:57 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I too have had this problem.
> 
> Jonathan Mosen also cited it as one of the furstrations which caused him to 
> quit the Mac. He seemed to think it was a Voiceover /OS issue.
> 
> 
> The workaround I personally use is to do as little editing in Mars Edit as 
> possible.
> 
> I normally create my blogs outside of Mars Edit in something like text Edit 
> and just copy and paste into the Edit box and then publish with Mars Edit.
> 
> David Griffith
> On 13/12/2016 13:50, Brandon A. Olivares wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I was trying out MarsEdit. However, I get the problem that sometimes I lose 
>> keyboard focus in the text field, and can’t even arrow raround the text, 
>> unless I completely get out of the field and go back into it.
>> 
>> This happens especially when I’ve formatted part of the text as a heading. 
>> When the cursor hits the heading, the arrow keys stop working altogether.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this, and do you know how to get around it?
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
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Amadeus Pro Versus Audacity? accessibility, fx and so on

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello  all my Friends:

I'm using pro tools on mac, but I need an easier app to use it in my
studio, just to record 1 track for a narrater or speaker that record
some novels etc.
I looked at sound forge on mac, and I listend to a very very great
podcast, it sounds great, but my only problem is the effects, I need
to do what I always do, I can incert an effect just for recording and
for the speaker to listen to himself, and I can remove this effect
while editing and so on, or may change it completely, because in pro
tools or sonar, the effect has  seprat channel.
so my main concern now is a good program that can produce commercial
product,  very  good in accessibility with Voice over, specially in
editing and reading the beek meter,  also, can seprat the effect on
the channel
what is the best, Audacity or Amadeus Pro? or you have another choice?

Thanks and sorry for m,y long post.


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Re: Problem with MarsEdit Editor

[David Griffith]

I too have had this problem.

Jonathan Mosen also cited it as one of the furstrations which caused him 
to quit the Mac. He seemed to think it was a Voiceover /OS issue.



The workaround I personally use is to do as little editing in Mars Edit 
as possible.


I normally create my blogs outside of Mars Edit in something like text 
Edit and just copy and paste into the Edit box and then publish with 
Mars Edit.


David Griffith
On 13/12/2016 13:50, Brandon A. Olivares wrote:

Hi everyone,

I was trying out MarsEdit. However, I get the problem that sometimes I lose 
keyboard focus in the text field, and can’t even arrow raround the text, unless 
I completely get out of the field and go back into it.

This happens especially when I’ve formatted part of the text as a heading. When 
the cursor hits the heading, the arrow keys stop working altogether.

Has anyone else experienced this, and do you know how to get around it?

Brandon



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Re: Iphone stuttering, frequency, triggers, recurrence

[Jonathan Cohn]

I would also check how much free memory you have available. UNIX systems in 
general like to have at least as much free disk space as memory on the system. 
I don't know about iPhone kernels but I would expect that this rule is probably 
worthwhile to maintain on these systems too.


Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had the double synth effect on my 6S running one of the earlier beta 
> 10.2 versions and have heard some breaking up of the speech since then but 
> not the double effect or changing to the compact voice. I’m using the US Siri 
> male voice for VO. 
> 
> It seems to happen when I do have a number of apps open and running so power 
> could be the issue but that said, I haven’t checked *every* time for this so 
> can’t verify.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> This 6 is a few generations out now so likely under powered.  That’s a guess 
>> anyway.  On the 6S and 7+ things seem pretty stable, especially the 7+.  
>> Then again, the A10 chip has the same processing power as the 13 inch 
>> MacBook Pro so I would hope so.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Speaking only for myself, of course, I have an iPhone 6, using the latest 
>>> iOS, with the Australian male voice by default, but this has happened with 
>>> Alex as well. Not compressed, and with or without apps in the background.
>>> Christine
>>> 
 On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 Hi, what voice are you using and are you using the compact or full 
 uncompressed voice?  I have not experienced this but I’m running the 7+ 
 with the latest processor so it may be an issue of horse power.  Do you 
 have a lot of apps running in the background?
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> 
> Vo stuttering seems to happen when using the phone following accessing 
> apps.
> Disabling vo and re-engaging sets vo temporarily right.
> The vo stuttering sounds the way a Windows speech synth does when two 
> iterations of synths  run simultaneously.
> Anyone experiencing this?
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Re: Configuring calendar alerts in IOS

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Jonathan,

Sorry for taking so long to answer this.  

Thanks also for the offer to write a script.  I think for now I'll just stick 
with things as they are.  As much as anything, it just kind of surprised me.  I 
mean, if you can set one default alert, it seems only logical that you should 
be able to set two.  But then I suppose there would be people who wanted three, 
four, etc. and I guess it has to stop somewhere.  :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 11, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that appears to be correct. It appears that the Mac version could be 
> scripted to add a e-mail alert 48 hours before the event if that is what you 
> desire. So I could probably set something up that would scan all your 
> messages in TempHome calendar, add a second notification, and move the 
> calendar to the Home calendar. I don't believe it could be run automatically 
> on new calendar events, but probably could get something to run every time 
> you login to the Mac or on a semi regular basis while logged in.
> 
> It would be an interesting project.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> You can still do that.  I'd like to set up two default alert times, but it 
>> looks like you can only set up one.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 5:18 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> There used to be this feature in the calendar of the phone  in apple 
>>> calendars it would be a case of setting up multiple appointments or events 
>>> with different alert times. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>>  
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>>> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Friday, 9 December 2016 3:11 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Configuring calendar alerts in IOS
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to set up default behavior for calendar alerts?  For 
>>> example, can I set it up so that I get one alert two days before, and a 
>>> second alert an hour before any time I schedule a new event?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Problem with MarsEdit Editor

[Brandon A. Olivares]

Hi everyone,

I was trying out MarsEdit. However, I get the problem that sometimes I lose 
keyboard focus in the text field, and can’t even arrow raround the text, unless 
I completely get out of the field and go back into it.

This happens especially when I’ve formatted part of the text as a heading. When 
the cursor hits the heading, the arrow keys stop working altogether.

Has anyone else experienced this, and do you know how to get around it?

Brandon

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Re: Iphone stuttering, frequency, triggers, recurrence

[Christine Grassman]

Now, now . . . :) How does one explain Alex then? *Wink*.
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Well there you go,
> It's got an austrailian voice, it therrfore has trouble speaking English 
> without sounding like a circular saw cutting through corogated iron roofing!
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone stuttering, frequency, triggers, recurrence
> 
> Speaking only for myself, of course, I have an iPhone 6, using the latest 
> iOS, with the Australian male voice by default, but this has happened with 
> Alex as well. Not compressed, and with or without apps in the background.
> Christine
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, what voice are you using and are you using the compact or full 
>> uncompressed voice?  I have not experienced this but I’m running the 7+ with 
>> the latest processor so it may be an issue of horse power.  Do you have a 
>> lot of apps running in the background?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vo stuttering seems to happen when using the phone following accessing apps.
>>> Disabling vo and re-engaging sets vo temporarily right.
>>> The vo stuttering sounds the way a Windows speech synth does when two 
>>> iterations of synths  run simultaneously.
>>> Anyone experiencing this?
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Re: New ios 10.2 is out.

[Ray Foret jr]

No.  I’m not running beta and I got 10.2.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I can’t seem to download it to my phone either so it must be because we run 
> the beta we’re already current.  Sometimes the gold master installs, some 
> times it doesn’t.  The watch updated just fine as did the Apple TV.
> 
> Also, in the US, T-Mobile released a carrier update of 27.1 so be sure that 
> is updated as well.
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi!
>> From what i can see the Ios 10.2 is out.
>> I can download it to my ipad mini 4 but not my Iphone as its on beta so i 
>> guess its likely that this is on beta.
>> /A
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Re: New ios 10.2 is out.

[Scott Granados]

I can’t seem to download it to my phone either so it must be because we run the 
beta we’re already current.  Sometimes the gold master installs, some times it 
doesn’t.  The watch updated just fine as did the Apple TV.

Also, in the US, T-Mobile released a carrier update of 27.1 so be sure that is 
updated as well.

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>   Hi!
> From what i can see the Ios 10.2 is out.
> I can download it to my ipad mini 4 but not my Iphone as its on beta so i 
> guess its likely that this is on beta.
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Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

[Scott Granados]

Simon, you want to go with a Plantronics Voyager 5220.  This headset is the 
newest in the voyager line, supports the later bluetooth standards and works 
very very well.  The Voyager legend is the second best option and not by much 
it’s also a very good headset.  The 5220 is just the newest model and the one 
I’m using presently.  You can also adjust some of the features like whether the 
incoming call ID is spoken or not, the audio profile used for calls and so on 
and so forth to improve the performance as well.  The firmware is not that big 
of an issue and usually are more bug fixes than audio performance changes.

Good luck.

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:42 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Was that only last week?
> Hell I thought it was a couple of weeks ago.
>  
> Oh well yeah guessing it will be around the new year, shame things shut down 
> around that time here.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 7:21 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+
>  
> I read that email from Tim Cook. It was published last week. Tim said they 
> should start coming in a few weeks. In the US, few weeks often means three 
> weeks, so I am hoping they will start shipping the week after Xmas.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13/12/2016, at 18:52, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
>  
> Thanks for that and it looks like a problem across Bluetooth devices rather 
> than just the Plantronics edge and IOS 10.
>  
> I’ve completely updated the firmware on the edge and nothing with the delay 
> has changed for the good if anything I find the delay in switching between 
> synced devices such as iPhone and iPad  is even worse
>  To the fact that the phone takes about 10 seconds to pick up a connection .
>  
> Anyway guess I’ll keep waiting for the apple earpods also, I’m just getting 
> sick of waiting and until now not having heard what the delay was.
>  
> If this information is correct then it’s good to hear,
>  
> If only they will be out before xmas so I can order a set or 2.
>  
> Interesting that a couple of weeks ago someone had an email from people 
> thought tim cook saying they would be out around now,
> And this info you mention, 
> Hasn’t yet put a release time on them.
>  
> Heres hoping  
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 2:19 PM
> To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+
>  
> Simon,
>  
> I used to use the S530, which I purchased off of eBay. It is a very 
> inexpensive earpiece, and typically lasted 6 months. Unfortunately, they 
> updated it and it now has a much more significant delay. The older unit had 
> just a minimal delay such that I could type messages using the onscreen 
> keyboard with it.
>  
> A friend acquired the extremely pricy Motorola Verve bluetooth earpieces for 
> his birthday. I tried them and they had quite good musical playback. 
> Unfortunately, they had a bad delay as well. So, I am suspecting something 
> about the new Bluetooth chipset, as both devices claim Bluetooth 4.2.
>  
> I have gone back to using my wired earpods until the Airpods are released.
>  
> By the way, we finally learned why the AirPods became delayed. A couple days 
> after Apple's September event, someone asked a question about what happens if 
> one AirPod gets lost, will Apple sell a single replacement? Apple tested the 
> concept and discovered that the current internal configuration would not 
> permit this. So, they stopped the production line whilst solving the problem. 
> Apparently, the problem has now been corrected, and they are starting the 
> production line again. The info about this was printed a couple days ago, but 
> I do not remember which paper broke the story. Personally, I would have 
> preferred it if Apple would have just come clean at the time, but that's 
> Apple's secrecy a bit over-the-top.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13/12/2016, at 13:24, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Listers,
>  
> I know we’ve all got our own views on this but can anyone advise what the 
> best of the Plantronics Bluetooth headsets are currently?
> I’ve got a voyager edge but I’m finding it’s got a real delay in picking up 
> the calls infact the connection w

RE: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

[Simon Fogarty]

Was that only last week?
Hell I thought it was a couple of weeks ago.

Oh well yeah guessing it will be around the new year, shame things shut down 
around that time here.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 7:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

I read that email from Tim Cook. It was published last week. Tim said they 
should start coming in a few weeks. In the US, few weeks often means three 
weeks, so I am hoping they will start shipping the week after Xmas.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/12/2016, at 18:52, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi David,

Thanks for that and it looks like a problem across Bluetooth devices rather 
than just the Plantronics edge and IOS 10.

I’ve completely updated the firmware on the edge and nothing with the delay has 
changed for the good if anything I find the delay in switching between synced 
devices such as iPhone and iPad  is even worse
 To the fact that the phone takes about 10 seconds to pick up a connection .

Anyway guess I’ll keep waiting for the apple earpods also, I’m just getting 
sick of waiting and until now not having heard what the delay was.

If this information is correct then it’s good to hear,

If only they will be out before xmas so I can order a set or 2.

Interesting that a couple of weeks ago someone had an email from people thought 
tim cook saying they would be out around now,
And this info you mention,
Hasn’t yet put a release time on them.

Heres hoping

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 2:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earpeace for iPhone 7+

Simon,

I used to use the S530, which I purchased off of eBay. It is a very inexpensive 
earpiece, and typically lasted 6 months. Unfortunately, they updated it and it 
now has a much more significant delay. The older unit had just a minimal delay 
such that I could type messages using the onscreen keyboard with it.

A friend acquired the extremely pricy Motorola Verve bluetooth earpieces for 
his birthday. I tried them and they had quite good musical playback. 
Unfortunately, they had a bad delay as well. So, I am suspecting something 
about the new Bluetooth chipset, as both devices claim Bluetooth 4.2.

I have gone back to using my wired earpods until the Airpods are released.

By the way, we finally learned why the AirPods became delayed. A couple days 
after Apple's September event, someone asked a question about what happens if 
one AirPod gets lost, will Apple sell a single replacement? Apple tested the 
concept and discovered that the current internal configuration would not permit 
this. So, they stopped the production line whilst solving the problem. 
Apparently, the problem has now been corrected, and they are starting the 
production line again. The info about this was printed a couple days ago, but I 
do not remember which paper broke the story. Personally, I would have preferred 
it if Apple would have just come clean at the time, but that's Apple's secrecy 
a bit over-the-top.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/12/2016, at 13:24, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi Listers,

I know we’ve all got our own views on this but can anyone advise what the best 
of the Plantronics Bluetooth headsets are currently?
I’ve got a voyager edge but I’m finding it’s got a real delay in picking up the 
calls infact the connection with my ipHone 7+

I’d like to update to something that’’s going to be up to date and work  
instantly for me when answering calls or using my phone and iPad

I beleave there is a newer headset now that is along this line.

Any information would be appreciated.

Simon
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Re: Reading of News Articles Using the Actual Twitter Client

[Andrew Lamanche]

In the table of tweets, on the tweet you want, press option key + right arrow. 
You will hear the familiar sound of menu opening, and then you can vo+down 
arrow through various options.  There you can press enter on the link to the 
article.
> On 13 Dec 2016, at 07:16, Brian Hansen  wrote:
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> I downloaded the actual Twitter client and installed it on my Mac mini, and 
> I’m wondering how to get to the actual articles..  When I’m down-arrowing 
> through my timeline, and find a posted article I’m interested in reading, if 
> I hit enter on the article all I seem to see is “Tweet Details” or compose a 
> new tweet.  Any and all help would be greatly appreciated so I don’t have to 
> run and grab my iPhone anytime I want to look at my timeline on Twitter.
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> Blessings,
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