Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   That is the problem. I never saw a continue button anywhere so did 
not actually download the file and afterwards, looked in the 
applications folder and under the Purchased tab as well. No joy.


   I started from updates which might be the reason.

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On 3/27/2017 9:45 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.



On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download the 
installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could find 
the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?

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Re: Sierra 10.12.4

[Scott Granados]

Just go to purchased items and click on install next to the most recent 12.4 
install.  Once the install starts and prompts you quit and find the file under 
Applications.


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:37 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to download 
> the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to be one could 
> find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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Sierra 10.12.4

[E.T.]

   Everything looks fine. However I cannot find the right place to 
download the installation file to build the installer later on. Used to 
be one could find the download link for this. Maybe this has changed?


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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The pCloud service appears to use a Disk Image format instead of the regular 
sync folder format like DropBox and Google Drive use.  with the Disk Image 
style, these items are accessible but not actually stored on your device.  The 
syncing process will be a little different, but as long as you have a quality 
internet connection, you likely won't notice much difference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2017, at 14:24, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

Only thing is this.  How does stuff you upload to Pcloud not take up space in 
your hard drive?  As we all know, in Dropbox, what ever you load in to Dropbox 
has to also take up space on a hard drive, (in my case a 1TB partition on an 
external Western Digital Mypassport drive).  So, if in fact physical hard drive 
space is not being used, this could be an advantage when backing up my Mac:  
especially maybe for critical license key files and disk image files where apps 
are stored.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sort of.  From that link, you are being invited to have a Premium membership. 
>  The Premium membership has a monthly fee and you are offered your first 
> month for free.  That's why you are also asked for credit card info.  You can 
> accept this, then make sure that you change it down to a regular account 
> prior to the 30 day trial ending.  Alternatively, you can just sign up 
> yourself, without the invitation eMail from Kliphton.  this will not give 
> Kliphton the invitation rewards, but it's the same thing in the end.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 13:29, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, this is telling me it's only a 30-day tryal, is this correct?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Kliphton Miller 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
>> 
>> I am on there too, about to leave cause it’s a waste of my time.  I have 
>> more than most.
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Jessica Moss >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's the name of this media service you're with?  I'm a part of the 
>>> mediareq list, and love it, but dispise sendspace, partly because of their 
>>> ads, and because it's so slow and you're only allowed so much that you can 
>>> download per day.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kliphton Miller 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
 
 Get them to sign up with your share link, and you can earn up to 20GB of 
 free storage, I got mine all in 1 day.
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom  > wrote:
> 
> I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy 
> S7 Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder 
> whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have 
> friends on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to 
> PCloud and another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their 
> stuff on Dropbox and it’s quite large.
> /Krister
> 
>> 26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller > >:
>> 
>> I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
>> once you are signed up.
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you 
>>> sign up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for 
 sure for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using 
 windows, to sign up with fire fox, then IE willwork 
 once your signed up.
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> HI Cliffton,
> You say it’s fully accessible for 

Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Ray Foret jr]

Only thing is this.  How does stuff you upload to Pcloud not take up space in 
your hard drive?  As we all know, in Dropbox, what ever you load in to Dropbox 
has to also take up space on a hard drive, (in my case a 1TB partition on an 
external Western Digital Mypassport drive).  So, if in fact physical hard drive 
space is not being used, this could be an advantage when backing up my Mac:  
especially maybe for critical license key files and disk image files where apps 
are stored.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sort of.  From that link, you are being invited to have a Premium membership. 
>  The Premium membership has a monthly fee and you are offered your first 
> month for free.  That's why you are also asked for credit card info.  You can 
> accept this, then make sure that you change it down to a regular account 
> prior to the 30 day trial ending.  Alternatively, you can just sign up 
> yourself, without the invitation eMail from Kliphton.  this will not give 
> Kliphton the invitation rewards, but it's the same thing in the end.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 13:29, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, this is telling me it's only a 30-day tryal, is this correct?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Kliphton Miller 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
>> 
>> I am on there too, about to leave cause it’s a waste of my time.  I have 
>> more than most.
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Jessica Moss >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's the name of this media service you're with?  I'm a part of the 
>>> mediareq list, and love it, but dispise sendspace, partly because of their 
>>> ads, and because it's so slow and you're only allowed so much that you can 
>>> download per day.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kliphton Miller 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
 
 Get them to sign up with your share link, and you can earn up to 20GB of 
 free storage, I got mine all in 1 day.
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom  > wrote:
> 
> I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy 
> S7 Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder 
> whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have 
> friends on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to 
> PCloud and another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their 
> stuff on Dropbox and it’s quite large.
> /Krister
> 
>> 26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller > >:
>> 
>> I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
>> once you are signed up.
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you 
>>> sign up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for 
 sure for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using 
 windows, to sign up with fire fox, then IE willwork 
 once your signed up.
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> HI Cliffton,
> You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for 
> windows or android,
> Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??
> Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm
> Cheers,
> Simon F
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
> To: 

Re: What happened to YouTube on Apple TV third GEN

[E.T.]

   By the way Phil, you can check your model in its settings.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/27/2017 12:49 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

That answers it Tim, I'm pretty sure mine is second GEN. I thought it was third 
but guess not. YouTube doesn't even appear in the settings for the main menu.

Sent from my IPhone



On Mar 27, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

My research says that YouTube should still be OK on the 3rd Gen Apple TV.  Try 
the following, restart your Apple TV.  If the Internet connection has been 
lost, sometimes YouTube won't be visible.  Check your Settings under Network 
and make sure that you're connected to the network with the Apple TV.  Check in 
Settings, Main Menu and make sure that YouTube is still one of the features 
visible on the Main Menu screen.  Apple had removed YouTube from 1st and 2nd 
Gen Apple TV's due to Google changing some coding which rendered YouTube 
inoperable on those units.  As far as I know, 3rd Gen units should still be OK.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 25, 2017, at 13:12, Phil Halton  wrote:

For some reason YouTube no longer appears on my main menu in my Apple 
third-generation TV. What happened to YouTube?

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

sort of.  From that link, you are being invited to have a Premium membership.  
The Premium membership has a monthly fee and you are offered your first month 
for free.  That's why you are also asked for credit card info.  You can accept 
this, then make sure that you change it down to a regular account prior to the 
30 day trial ending.  Alternatively, you can just sign up yourself, without the 
invitation eMail from Kliphton.  this will not give Kliphton the invitation 
rewards, but it's the same thing in the end.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2017, at 13:29, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Ok, this is telling me it's only a 30-day tryal, is this correct?
> - Original Message - 
> From: Kliphton Miller 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
> 
> I am on there too, about to leave cause it’s a waste of my time.  I have more 
> than most.
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Jessica Moss > > wrote:
>> 
>> What's the name of this media service you're with?  I'm a part of the 
>> mediareq list, and love it, but dispise sendspace, partly because of their 
>> ads, and because it's so slow and you're only allowed so much that you can 
>> download per day.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Kliphton Miller 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
>>> 
>>> Get them to sign up with your share link, and you can earn up to 20GB of 
>>> free storage, I got mine all in 1 day.
 On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom > wrote:
 
 I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy 
 S7 Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder 
 whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have 
 friends on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to 
 PCloud and another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their 
 stuff on Dropbox and it’s quite large.
 /Krister
 
> 26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller  >:
> 
> I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
> once you are signed up.
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann > > wrote:
>> 
>> In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you 
>> sign up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for 
>>> sure for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using 
>>> windows, to sign up with fire fox, then IE willwork 
>>> once your signed up.
 On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
 HI Cliffton,
 You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for windows 
 or android,
 Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??
 Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm
 Cheers,
 Simon F
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
 Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: A service better than drop box, I love it!
> Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other things.  And 
> instead of using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, they 
> used a service called “pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and 
> android app.  You get 10GB free, and get 1GB up to 20gb free for 
> referring a friend.  You get upload and download traffic allowances, 
> and the app is 100 percent accessible on both Mac and PC.  CAn’t say 
> for windows or android, cause I don’t use it on either of those 
> platforms.  Anyway, it’s free, unless you want to upgrade, and there 
> plans are insanely cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral link.  Sign 
> up with it, and we both get a free GB.
> 

Re: What happened to YouTube on Apple TV third GEN

[E.T.]

   I have the 3rd and still see Youtube in the main menu though I have 
hidden it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/27/2017 12:49 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

That answers it Tim, I'm pretty sure mine is second GEN. I thought it was third 
but guess not. YouTube doesn't even appear in the settings for the main menu.

Sent from my IPhone



On Mar 27, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

My research says that YouTube should still be OK on the 3rd Gen Apple TV.  Try 
the following, restart your Apple TV.  If the Internet connection has been 
lost, sometimes YouTube won't be visible.  Check your Settings under Network 
and make sure that you're connected to the network with the Apple TV.  Check in 
Settings, Main Menu and make sure that YouTube is still one of the features 
visible on the Main Menu screen.  Apple had removed YouTube from 1st and 2nd 
Gen Apple TV's due to Google changing some coding which rendered YouTube 
inoperable on those units.  As far as I know, 3rd Gen units should still be OK.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 25, 2017, at 13:12, Phil Halton  wrote:

For some reason YouTube no longer appears on my main menu in my Apple 
third-generation TV. What happened to YouTube?

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: What happened to YouTube on Apple TV third GEN

[Phil Halton]

That answers it Tim, I'm pretty sure mine is second GEN. I thought it was third 
but guess not. YouTube doesn't even appear in the settings for the main menu. 

Sent from my IPhone


> On Mar 27, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My research says that YouTube should still be OK on the 3rd Gen Apple TV.  
> Try the following, restart your Apple TV.  If the Internet connection has 
> been lost, sometimes YouTube won't be visible.  Check your Settings under 
> Network and make sure that you're connected to the network with the Apple TV. 
>  Check in Settings, Main Menu and make sure that YouTube is still one of the 
> features visible on the Main Menu screen.  Apple had removed YouTube from 1st 
> and 2nd Gen Apple TV's due to Google changing some coding which rendered 
> YouTube inoperable on those units.  As far as I know, 3rd Gen units should 
> still be OK.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 13:12, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> For some reason YouTube no longer appears on my main menu in my Apple 
> third-generation TV. What happened to YouTube?
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, this is telling me it's only a 30-day tryal, is this correct?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:30 AM
  Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!


  I am on there too, about to leave cause it’s a waste of my time.  I have more 
than most.

On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Jessica Moss  
wrote:


What's the name of this media service you're with?  I'm a part of the 
mediareq list, and love it, but dispise sendspace, partly because of their ads, 
and because it's so slow and you're only allowed so much that you can download 
per day.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton Miller
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:20 AM
  Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!


  Get them to sign up with your share link, and you can earn up to 20GB of 
free storage, I got mine all in 1 day.

On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
 wrote:


I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung 
Galaxy S7 Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but 
wonder whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have 
friends on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to PCloud 
and another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their stuff on Dropbox 
and it’s quite large.
/Krister


  26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller :


  I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your 
pc once you are signed up.

On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:


In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once 
you sign up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller  
wrote:


  Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say 
for sure for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using windows, to 
sign up with fire fox, then IE will work once your signed up.

On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty 
 wrote:


HI Cliffton,
You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for 
windows or android,
Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??
Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm
Cheers,
Simon F
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: A service better than drop box, I love it!
  Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other 
things.  And instead of using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, 
they used a service called “pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and android 
app.  You get 10GB free, and get 1GB up to 20gb free for referring a friend.  
You get upload and download traffic allowances, and the app is 100 percent 
accessible on both Mac and PC.  CAn’t say for windows or android, cause I don’t 
use it on either of those platforms.  Anyway, it’s free, unless you want to 
upgrade, and there plans are insanely cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral 
link.  Sign up with it, and we both get a free GB.
  
https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV
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Re: another weather site?

[E.T.]

   It is sporadic. Sometimes a refresh brings it all back, most times 
not. This time it only showed today's forecast.


   And I just got a message undelivered so will go to the standard web 
page. I suspect they switched to using web forms now for contact.


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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 3/27/2017 10:23 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Odd, seems to be okay now.  Here’s the page I use:

https://braille.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?brand=braille=70363


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!


On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:51 AM, E.T. > wrote:

Ray,
  The site has been having problems, very minor ones, for some time.
This is as bad as I've seen it.

  I sent an email which has not been returned so it was a gremlin on
yours. Be sure to paste the link you use to access the site.

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 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 3/27/2017 1:07 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Okay,

Until now, I had been using the Braille Underground weather site to get
my forcasts.  However, of late, the forcasts get shorter and shorter
until, this very morning, I only see the forcast for today and no
further.  Looks like the site is or may be sunsetting.  Attempts to
contact them have resulted in message return errors.

Any accessible alternative sites for the Mac for weather?

Thanks.


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Re: another weather site?

[Ray Foret jr]

Odd, seems to be okay now.  Here’s the page I use:

https://braille.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?brand=braille=70363


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Ray,
>   The site has been having problems, very minor ones, for some time. This is 
> as bad as I've seen it.
> 
>   I sent an email which has not been returned so it was a gremlin on yours. 
> Be sure to paste the link you use to access the site.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/27/2017 1:07 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>> Okay,
>> 
>> Until now, I had been using the Braille Underground weather site to get
>> my forcasts.  However, of late, the forcasts get shorter and shorter
>> until, this very morning, I only see the forcast for today and no
>> further.  Looks like the site is or may be sunsetting.  Attempts to
>> contact them have resulted in message return errors.
>> 
>> Any accessible alternative sites for the Mac for weather?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>> blind built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
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Looks like a new round of updates available

[Scott Granados]

Just saw a watch OS 3.2 update post and it appears IOS 10.3 is also available 
for iPhone and iPad.

Flash em if you got em.

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Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"

[Tim Kilburn]

Yeah, then it would always be on the plus side.  Now, I was commenting on the 
cold, but it is on it's way to warmer Spring temperatures.  Yesterday, I was 
outside in short sleeves, it had made it's way up to plus 5, right balmy for 
March in my world.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:56, Scott Granados  wrote:

It’s so cold up there they should measure your temperature in Kelvin.;)


> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Simon,
> 
> We do use Celsius.  the temps I was mentioning were in degrees Celsius.  I've 
> walked to work when it was 45 below plus a wind chill on top.  Once it's that 
> cold, whether there's a wind chill or not doesn't make that much of a 
> difference, it's just cold.  I'm pretty sure that's where the term "tinkle" 
> came from.  When my dog takes a leak outside, I think it freezes before it 
> hits the ground causing the "tinkle" noise :).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 01:18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> We get cold temps here in Dunedin,
> 
> But hells teeth,
> 
> 30 below,
> You guys should start using celcius
> It just seems so much warmer!
> 
> And yeah it may snow at those temps below Zero but I bet it doesn't rain a 
> lot!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 4:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Fire zone yes, but it's a different time of year.  Summer can be over 30 C up 
> here, but winters often go to 30 to 40 plus below C.  We do love to have a 
> fire when it's 40 below, but wildfires aren't in the picture.  And just to 
> squash the myths, yes it can snow when it's 40 below.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 08:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know, didn’t you have the extreme opposite up there with hot glowing 
> embers falling from the sky?  As I recall you lived in a fire zone like I did 
> in California just a bit more north with out the nice weather and weed of 
> California to off set the stresses of evacuation.;)
> 
> (Although that Vancouver smoke ain’t half bad.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Stuff falling from the sky around here tends to be white and cold this time 
>> of the year.  An umbrella might help a little, but a hood or touque is more 
>> preferable.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:42, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Weather gods?
>> 
>> What ever happened to just going outside and seeingif you get wet or blown 
>> over in the wind.
>> 
>> I find if I go outside and there is stuff falling from the sky I know I 
>> should take the umbrella
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:18 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
>> 
>> Evening everyone.
>> 
>> I would like to share with you an app that lets you experience the weather 
>> in a whole new way. The app is called "Weather Gods" and does a lot more 
>> than display the weather. Since there might be too much to discuss here, you 
>> can find out more at www.weathergodsapp.com and, if you like the idea, pay 
>> £2.99 in the UK app store for it. So it's "Weather Gods", without the quotes 
>> but with spaces. Enjoy!
>> 
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Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"

[Scott Granados]

It’s so cold up there they should measure your temperature in Kelvin.;)


> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Simon,
> 
> We do use Celsius.  the temps I was mentioning were in degrees Celsius.  I've 
> walked to work when it was 45 below plus a wind chill on top.  Once it's that 
> cold, whether there's a wind chill or not doesn't make that much of a 
> difference, it's just cold.  I'm pretty sure that's where the term "tinkle" 
> came from.  When my dog takes a leak outside, I think it freezes before it 
> hits the ground causing the "tinkle" noise :).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 01:18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> We get cold temps here in Dunedin,
> 
> But hells teeth,
> 
> 30 below,
> You guys should start using celcius
> It just seems so much warmer!
> 
> And yeah it may snow at those temps below Zero but I bet it doesn't rain a 
> lot!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 4:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Fire zone yes, but it's a different time of year.  Summer can be over 30 C up 
> here, but winters often go to 30 to 40 plus below C.  We do love to have a 
> fire when it's 40 below, but wildfires aren't in the picture.  And just to 
> squash the myths, yes it can snow when it's 40 below.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 08:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know, didn’t you have the extreme opposite up there with hot glowing 
> embers falling from the sky?  As I recall you lived in a fire zone like I did 
> in California just a bit more north with out the nice weather and weed of 
> California to off set the stresses of evacuation.;)
> 
> (Although that Vancouver smoke ain’t half bad.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Stuff falling from the sky around here tends to be white and cold this time 
>> of the year.  An umbrella might help a little, but a hood or touque is more 
>> preferable.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:42, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Weather gods?
>> 
>> What ever happened to just going outside and seeingif you get wet or blown 
>> over in the wind.
>> 
>> I find if I go outside and there is stuff falling from the sky I know I 
>> should take the umbrella
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:18 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
>> 
>> Evening everyone.
>> 
>> I would like to share with you an app that lets you experience the weather 
>> in a whole new way. The app is called "Weather Gods" and does a lot more 
>> than display the weather. Since there might be too much to discuss here, you 
>> can find out more at www.weathergodsapp.com and, if you like the idea, pay 
>> £2.99 in the UK app store for it. So it's "Weather Gods", without the quotes 
>> but with spaces. Enjoy!
>> 
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Recovering iPhone backup from TM

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, I want to do a multi step thing here.

Can I retrieve old iPhone backups from time machine?  I then want to open them 
from the app iMazing.  I successfully opened a June 2016 iPhone backup and 
saved years of text conversation between me and my Aunt.  I now want to see if 
I have anymore messages before 2013.  Maybe in older backups.

So, is the TM thing possible, then I can use iMazing again?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: What happened to YouTube on Apple TV third GEN

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

My research says that YouTube should still be OK on the 3rd Gen Apple TV.  Try 
the following, restart your Apple TV.  If the Internet connection has been 
lost, sometimes YouTube won't be visible.  Check your Settings under Network 
and make sure that you're connected to the network with the Apple TV.  Check in 
Settings, Main Menu and make sure that YouTube is still one of the features 
visible on the Main Menu screen.  Apple had removed YouTube from 1st and 2nd 
Gen Apple TV's due to Google changing some coding which rendered YouTube 
inoperable on those units.  As far as I know, 3rd Gen units should still be OK.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 25, 2017, at 13:12, Phil Halton  wrote:

For some reason YouTube no longer appears on my main menu in my Apple 
third-generation TV. What happened to YouTube?

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: do i need java.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Just a reminder that Java and JavaScript are two different technologies 
that, unfortunately, share parts of their name. From wikipedia:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#History

"The final choice of name caused confusion, giving the impression that 
the language was a spin-off of the Java programming language, and the 
choice has been characterized as a marketing ploy by Netscape to give 
JavaScript the cachet of what was then the hot new Web programming 
language."


Java is much more like C in that you compile it into an app that runs on 
your machine. For web browsers, it's a bit like Flash in that you need a 
plugin to run Java. Also, like Flash, Java has greater capability to do 
stuff such as read/write files and the like and has had a raft of 
security issues. Javascript is the scripting language built into all 
browsers and allows the author to add interactivity to their page. Most 
pages, unless they are just static content, probably won't work right 
without Javascript but it's a rare site these days that needs Java. Back 
in the bad old days interactive sites and screen readers didn't work 
well together so the general guidance was that and accessible site 
needed to work well without Javascript. That was like boiling the ocean 
to catch a fish as Javascript is used all over the place. Now days 
Javascript is considered to be just another web authoring tool. You can 
use it to make sites more accessible, or at least cause no harm, but it 
can also be used to ruin them.


CB

On 3/26/17 6:16 AM, Gerry Cook wrote:
funnily enough i unchecked java script and couldn’t get to the select 
station on the nrl.com  website so i checked it again 
and got it back in safari. I was going to use terminal to uninstall it 
but i’ll hold off for a wile. Thanks scott.

cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52

On 26 Mar 2017, at 1:49 am, Scott Granados > wrote:


Jerry, if you use applications that call on the java process you’ll 
want it.  It all depends on what you’re doing.


On Mar 25, 2017, at 1:28 AM, Gerry Cook > wrote:


Hi everyone! I was just wondering whether i need java because i’ve 
heard that websites, won’t perform as they should with it, , I’m 
thinking if i should, get rid of it or keep it any ideas? Thanks.

cheers gerry have a nice day
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Reading mail Efficiently with Sierra

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

Hello.

 

It seems very beneficial to be able to skim within a mail message, moving
paragraph by paragraph.

There seems to be a discrepancy between what is said using Keyboard Help and
what is listed in the keyboard commands section of online help.

The command in question is Control Option Shift Page down.

When turning on Keyboard help, this command says, Go right one page.

Yet, in the Online help under text, this same  command says Read next
paragraph.

 

When reading mail, when using the Go to Linked Item, Control Option J, this
command seems to work reliably to read paragraph by paragraph.

However, when opening a message with Enter or Command O, this command does
not work at all.

This is with mail in classic view, I do not know if it might act differently
in standard view..

I wonder why the difference?

Also, I wonder if there might be a way to add this command to the Quick Nav
rotor?

 

I would just like to find a reliable way to quickly read through a
significant number of email messages with the fewest keystrokes.

Thanks for any observations or tips.   

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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

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I am on there too, about to leave cause it’s a waste of my time.  I have more 
than most.
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> What's the name of this media service you're with?  I'm a part of the 
> mediareq list, and love it, but dispise sendspace, partly because of their 
> ads, and because it's so slow and you're only allowed so much that you can 
> download per day.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Kliphton Miller 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
>> 
>> Get them to sign up with your share link, and you can earn up to 20GB of 
>> free storage, I got mine all in 1 day.
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy 
>>> S7 Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder 
>>> whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have 
>>> friends on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to 
>>> PCloud and another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their stuff 
>>> on Dropbox and it’s quite large.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller >:
 
 I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
 once you are signed up.
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann  > wrote:
> 
> In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you sign 
> up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for sure 
>> for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using windows, to 
>> sign up with fire fox, then IE will work once your signed up.
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI Cliffton,
>>> You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for windows 
>>> or android,
>>> Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??
>>> Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon F
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>>> Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> Subject: A service better than drop box, I love it!
 Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other things.  And 
 instead of using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, they 
 used a service called “pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and 
 android app.  You get 10GB free, and get 1GB up to 20gb free for 
 referring a friend.  You get upload and download traffic allowances, 
 and the app is 100 percent accessible on both Mac and PC.  CAn’t say 
 for windows or android, cause I don’t use it on either of those 
 platforms.  Anyway, it’s free, unless you want to upgrade, and there 
 plans are insanely cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral link.  Sign up 
 with it, and we both get a free GB.
 https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV
  
 
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Re: Making a full presentation on mac, can i?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, it's fully accessible and you'd be able to make very professional 
presentations with it.  Not sure about the podcast part though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2017, at 11:39, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all:P

I need to make a professional Presentation on my MacBook, I have the
Keynote app, but don't know how to use , it, so , can anyone tell me
if it's fully accessible or not, and, are there any podcasts on how to
use it?

Thanks in ADvance


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Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

We do use Celsius.  the temps I was mentioning were in degrees Celsius.  I've 
walked to work when it was 45 below plus a wind chill on top.  Once it's that 
cold, whether there's a wind chill or not doesn't make that much of a 
difference, it's just cold.  I'm pretty sure that's where the term "tinkle" 
came from.  When my dog takes a leak outside, I think it freezes before it hits 
the ground causing the "tinkle" noise :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2017, at 01:18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,

We get cold temps here in Dunedin,

But hells teeth,

30 below,
You guys should start using celcius 
It just seems so much warmer!

And yeah it may snow at those temps below Zero but I bet it doesn't rain a lot!

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Hi Scott,

Fire zone yes, but it's a different time of year.  Summer can be over 30 C up 
here, but winters often go to 30 to 40 plus below C.  We do love to have a fire 
when it's 40 below, but wildfires aren't in the picture.  And just to squash 
the myths, yes it can snow when it's 40 below.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 25, 2017, at 08:53, Scott Granados  wrote:

I don’t know, didn’t you have the extreme opposite up there with hot glowing 
embers falling from the sky?  As I recall you lived in a fire zone like I did 
in California just a bit more north with out the nice weather and weed of 
California to off set the stresses of evacuation.;)

(Although that Vancouver smoke ain’t half bad.



> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Stuff falling from the sky around here tends to be white and cold this time 
> of the year.  An umbrella might help a little, but a hood or touque is more 
> preferable.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:42, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Weather gods?
> 
> What ever happened to just going outside and seeingif you get wet or blown 
> over in the wind.
> 
> I find if I go outside and there is stuff falling from the sky I know I 
> should take the umbrella
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:18 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
> 
> Evening everyone.
> 
> I would like to share with you an app that lets you experience the weather in 
> a whole new way. The app is called "Weather Gods" and does a lot more than 
> display the weather. Since there might be too much to discuss here, you can 
> find out more at www.weathergodsapp.com and, if you like the idea, pay £2.99 
> in the UK app store for it. So it's "Weather Gods", without the quotes but 
> with spaces. Enjoy!
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Re: another weather site?

[E.T.]

Ray,
   The site has been having problems, very minor ones, for some time. 
This is as bad as I've seen it.


   I sent an email which has not been returned so it was a gremlin on 
yours. Be sure to paste the link you use to access the site.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/27/2017 1:07 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Okay,

Until now, I had been using the Braille Underground weather site to get
my forcasts.  However, of late, the forcasts get shorter and shorter
until, this very morning, I only see the forcast for today and no
further.  Looks like the site is or may be sunsetting.  Attempts to
contact them have resulted in message return errors.

Any accessible alternative sites for the Mac for weather?

Thanks.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Jessica Moss]

What's the name of this media service you're with?  I'm a part of the mediareq 
list, and love it, but dispise sendspace, partly because of their ads, and 
because it's so slow and you're only allowed so much that you can download per 
day.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:20 AM
  Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!


  Get them to sign up with your share link, and you can earn up to 20GB of free 
storage, I got mine all in 1 day.

On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
wrote:


I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy 
S7 Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder 
whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have friends 
on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to PCloud and 
another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their stuff on Dropbox and 
it’s quite large.
/Krister


  26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller :


  I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
once you are signed up.

On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:


In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you 
sign up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller  
wrote:


  Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for 
sure for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using windows, to 
sign up with fire fox, then IE will work once your signed up.

On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty  
wrote:


HI Cliffton,

You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for 
windows or android,

Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??

Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm

Cheers,


Simon F

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: A service better than drop box, I love it!

  Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other things.  
And instead of using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, they used a 
service called “pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and android app.  You get 
10GB free, and get 1GB up to 20gb free for referring a friend.  You get upload 
and download traffic allowances, and the app is 100 percent accessible on both 
Mac and PC.  CAn’t say for windows or android, cause I don’t use it on either 
of those platforms.  Anyway, it’s free, unless you want to upgrade, and there 
plans are insanely cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral link.  Sign up with it, 
and we both get a free GB.
  
https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV


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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Kliphton Miller]

On top of what was mentioned before, you can even share a link with your 
friends, to directly upload to your pCloud folder, and they do not need an 
account to do so.
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I know, that's the only thing about these new services, some people get used 
> to one thing and one thing only, and don't really like change.  I think I'm 
> about to give it a try though.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Krister Ekstrom 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!
>> 
>> I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy S7 
>> Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder 
>> whether to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have 
>> friends on Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to PCloud 
>> and another mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their stuff on 
>> Dropbox and it’s quite large.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller >> >:
>>> 
>>> I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
>>> once you are signed up.
 On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann > wrote:
 
 In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you sign 
 up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller > wrote:
 
> Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for sure 
> for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using windows, to 
> sign up with fire fox, then IE will work once your signed up.
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> HI Cliffton,
>> You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for windows 
>> or android,
>> Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??
>> Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm
>> Cheers,
>> Simon F
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: A service better than drop box, I love it!
>>> Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other things.  And 
>>> instead of using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, they 
>>> used a service called “pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and android 
>>> app.  You get 10GB free, and get 1GB up to 20gb free for referring a 
>>> friend.  You get upload and download traffic allowances, and the app is 
>>> 100 percent accessible on both Mac and PC.  CAn’t say for windows or 
>>> android, cause I don’t use it on either of those platforms.  Anyway, 
>>> it’s free, unless you want to upgrade, and there plans are insanely 
>>> cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral link.  Sign up with it, and we 
>>> both get a free GB.
>>> https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Jessica Moss]

I know, that's the only thing about these new services, some people get used to 
one thing and one thing only, and don't really like change.  I think I'm about 
to give it a try though.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Krister Ekstrom 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:00 AM
  Subject: Re: A service better than drop box, I love it!


  I can report that the PCloud service looks quite nice on a Samsung Galaxy S7 
Edge with Android 7.x. Really starting to like this service but wonder whether 
to change completely from Dropbox to PCloud given that i have friends on 
Dropbox whom i don’t know if i can convince to get over to PCloud and another 
mailing list that i’m a member of is sharing their stuff on Dropbox and it’s 
quite large.
  /Krister


26 mars 2017 kl. 15:30 skrev Kliphton Miller :


I have heard there is a windows desktop client that downloads to your pc 
once you are signed up.

  On Mar 26, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:


  In Windows, can you access the drive from Windows Explorer  once you sign 
up?  I can with Dropbox and Google Drive. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:


Sorry, you are correct.  It works on Mac and IOS, but can’t say for 
sure for windows or android.  Although I heard if you are using windows, to 
sign up with fire fox, then IE will work once your signed up.

  On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty  
wrote:


  HI Cliffton,

  You say it’s fully accessible for MAC and PC, but not sure for 
windows or android,

  Do you mean it’s fully accessible for IOS and Mac OS ??

  Sounds pretty good but just want to confirm

  Cheers,


  Simon F

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
  Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: A service better than drop box, I love it!

Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other things.  And 
instead of using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, they used a 
service called “pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and android app.  You get 
10GB free, and get 1GB up to 20gb free for referring a friend.  You get upload 
and download traffic allowances, and the app is 100 percent accessible on both 
Mac and PC.  CAn’t say for windows or android, cause I don’t use it on either 
of those platforms.  Anyway, it’s free, unless you want to upgrade, and there 
plans are insanely cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral link.  Sign up with it, 
and we both get a free GB.

https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV


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Re: Fusion or fusion pro?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

If memory serves, the major difference is that Pro allows you to have
multiple guest VMs active. In the non Pro version you can only activate
one guest at a time.

Janina

Scott Granados writes:
> The difference, at least in the US, is like $20 or $30 so I never bothered 
> with the non pro version.  Pro has some abilities like remote management and 
> the ability to build servers locally and push them to a hosting service etc.  
> I’m not sure the differences but the www.vmware.com/fusion 
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> 
> Thanks
> 
> > On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> > Hi!
> > What are the major differences between Vmware Fusion and Fusion pro?
> > Ofcourse Fusion Pro might be for professional use but what can you do with 
> > pro that you can’t do with Fusion?
> > I need to deside if i should buy pro or fusion only.
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Re: does anyone have an iPhone for sale?

[Cameron Strife]

Hey. I have no idea... I'm simply replying to the on list message. I'm
using the g mail web interface if that has anything to do with it...




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> Could you advise why your HTML is coming up in your email messages?
>
> Looks like your missing some code to stop it showing in your email message,
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
> Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 4:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: does anyone have an iPhone for sale?
>
> Nothing I've seen on the apple site is a good deal as far as refurb
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>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>>  I was just on the web looking at a site that had a few for sale,
>>
>>  The address was
>> www.apple.com
>>
>>  they seemed to have a good selection of devices.
>>
>> LOL.
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 12:15 PM
>> To: macvisionaries 
>> Subject: does anyone have an iPhone for sale?
>>
>> Hi everybody. If someone is selling an iPhone with 64 gb or higher
>> internal storage, could you please e mail me off list with more info?
>> came...@cameronstrife.com
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Re: another weather site?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hello,

The regular Weather Underground site at

www.wund.com

seems to be accessible, although not as simple as the one you have been 
using.


When you get their, after putting in your zip code, just go down the 
page until you find the observations and forecast, and select the 
"Discriptive" tab from the group. I know it's a little complex, but not 
too hard to figure out once you play with it for a few minutes.


I hope this helps,

Jeffrey


On 3/27/2017 4:07 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Okay,

Until now, I had been using the Braille Underground weather site to 
get my forcasts.  However, of late, the forcasts get shorter and 
shorter until, this very morning, I only see the forcast for today and 
no further.  Looks like the site is or may be sunsetting.  Attempts to 
contact them have resulted in message return errors.


Any accessible alternative sites for the Mac for weather?

Thanks.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

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Re: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Kliphton Miller]

Thanks, if you sign up with the below link, we both get a month free
https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV 



> On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:40 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Well, Kliphton, all the people  whom I have known in my life who bear the 
> last name of “Miller” have been fine upstanding people.  Seems to me this is 
> worth a look.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
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> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 5:26 AM, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>>> So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can 
>>> send a link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do 
>>> not, I repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or 
>>> from someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but 
>>> dropbox gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not 
>>> signed in.  JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up 
>>> with my link, so here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want 
>>> something, just email me off list
>>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
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Re: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Ray Foret jr]

Well, Kliphton, all the people  whom I have known in my life who bear the last 
name of “Miller” have been fine upstanding people.  Seems to me this is worth a 
look.  Thanks.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

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Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 5:26 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
>> So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can 
>> send a link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do 
>> not, I repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or 
>> from someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but 
>> dropbox gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not 
>> signed in.  JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up 
>> with my link, so here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want 
>> something, just email me off list
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 
>> 
>> 
>> Enjoy!
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A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Kliphton Miller]

> So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can send 
> a link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do not, I 
> repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or from 
> someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but dropbox 
> gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not signed in.  
> JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up with my link, 
> so here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want something, just 
> email me off list
> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 
> 
> 
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Re: Lastpass and Two logins for the same site

[Chris G]

If it is anything like the Windows version, you'll have access to both 
logins in a menu.


Just don't set one to auto login.




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 Original Message 
From: Agent086b
Sent: Sunday, Mar 26, 2017 8:58 PM EST
To: Mac List
Subject: Lastpass and Two logins for the same site

Hi all,
One for the Lastpass users among us.
My wife and I share the same Lastpass account so we have access to all 
of our sites like banking etc. I am switching to the same mobile phone 
provider as my wife. We need to login accounts as the company use your 
mobile phone number as part of the login. When I go to the site how do I 
tell lastpass

 which credentials to use?
Hope that is clear.
Thanks for any help.
Max.


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another weather site?

[Ray Foret jr]

Okay,

Until now, I had been using the Braille Underground weather site to get my 
forcasts.  However, of late, the forcasts get shorter and shorter until, this 
very morning, I only see the forcast for today and no further.  Looks like the 
site is or may be sunsetting.  Attempts to contact them have resulted in 
message return errors.

Any accessible alternative sites for the Mac for weather?

Thanks.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

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Re: Let's Use Social Media to Advocate for The Visually Impaired

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

I guess the way the Us deals with blindness is like almost anywhere i
know of in the rest of the better off countries, you are on some sort
of disability if you can’t feed your self.
However it seems to be easier to get a job in the us than other places
if you are good at what you do, now for the apple part, i want more
picture reading capabilities.
I am going to get the red version if i at all cost can:)

On 3/25/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
> The way we do things in the US is definitely not perfect, far from it, but
> our special brand of freedom and nuttiness that we have here is good for me.
>  I’d rather try to find work here than just about anywhere else in the
> world.  I was offered a position in Amsterdam recently (let the jokes begin)
> but I didn’t take it because I couldn’t even fathom dealing with another
> countries way of dealing with the blind and the way the folks there operate.
>  I’ll travel any day of the week but making a move outside the US, not so
> sure about that.
>
>
>
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah very few companys here in nz take the give it a go attitude
>>
>> Shame really, as we've got a lot of smart people willing to give it a
>> try.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2017 5:49 AM
>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
>> Subject: Re: Let's Use Social Media to Advocate for The Visually Impaired
>>
>> Apple does view us that way.  There are several blind engineers at Apple
>> some on this list in fact.  There are also blind employees at the retail
>> stores.   I have never seen a blind person in a large scale retail
>> setting.  Small businesses yes but never working at Starbucks to use your
>> example.  There are many companies though that are pretty open minded.
>> Juniper Networks, Cisco, IBM, Verizon Wireless, L. L. Bean, just to name a
>> few who have been very good to me and or I know of other blind people
>> working there.  Cisco has several as does Apple and IBM has been hiring
>> blind programmers and engineers for decades.
>>
>> There out there and while there are knuckleheads out there let’s also
>> remember there’s a lot of good forward thinking people out there as well.
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:24 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>
>>> And on that every country has it's different rules and then for the
>>> likes of the USA different states or terratorys have different rules
>>> again,
>>>
>>> I'd love the likes of starbucks or apple especially to view us in the
>>> world of the blind / visually impaired as having the ability to work.
>>>
>>> There are a lot of very able bodied people out there in the world that
>>> have a disability I had to fight against sighted people to get my
>>> permanent job position,
>>>
>>> My overall knowledge only just made that possible.
>>>
>>> Yet I can't get the company I work for to make a web based app
>>> accessible
>>>
>>> I would say that more people even if they have no plans to go seaking
>>> work / employment should still put their hands up to fight,
>>>
>>>
>>> A collective agreement is generally more powerfull than an individual
>>> agreement.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>> Sent: Friday, 24 March 2017 5:11 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Let's Use Social Media to Advocate for The Visually
>>> Impaired
>>>
>>>   Let me add some flour and yeast to the mix also.
>>>
>>>   Ours is not a very cohesive society. Its extremely fragmented on many
>>> levels. I won't go into the politics of it, just that its unfortunate
>>> that all the various pieces have to practice their own advocacy to
>>> achieve the same goal. As far as those with disabilities, while the ADA
>>> was a necessary instrument whose aim is to level the playing field, it
>>> has not made society inclusive thus the ongoing battles and skirmishes
>>> since its inception when it was passed 27 years ago.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 3/23/2017 8:07 PM, Michelle's Home Emails wrote:
 Hi all,

 Michelle here,

 What about the Deafblind community who gets very easily over looked
 during these conversations.

 Also there is a huge difference between a person who is vision impaired
 and person like myself who is totally blind and profoundly deaf with
 only light perception.

 Had to put this in the mix.

 Michelle Stevens

 Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 

RE: does anyone have an iPhone for sale?

[Simon Fogarty]

Could you advise why your HTML is coming up in your email messages?

Looks like your missing some code to stop it showing in your email message,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 4:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does anyone have an iPhone for sale?

Nothing I've seen on the apple site is a good deal as far as refurb computers, 
tablets, or iPhones are concerned.


 

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On 3/26/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
>
>  I was just on the web looking at a site that had a few for sale,
>
>  The address was
> www.apple.com
>
>  they seemed to have a good selection of devices.
>
> LOL.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
> Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 12:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: does anyone have an iPhone for sale?
>
> Hi everybody. If someone is selling an iPhone with 64 gb or higher 
> internal storage, could you please e mail me off list with more info?
> came...@cameronstrife.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.
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RE: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

 We get cold temps here in Dunedin,

 But hells teeth,

 30 below,
 You guys should start using celcius 
It just seems so much warmer!

And yeah it may snow at those temps below Zero but I bet it doesn't rain a lot!

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 4:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"

Hi Scott,

Fire zone yes, but it's a different time of year.  Summer can be over 30 C up 
here, but winters often go to 30 to 40 plus below C.  We do love to have a fire 
when it's 40 below, but wildfires aren't in the picture.  And just to squash 
the myths, yes it can snow when it's 40 below.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 25, 2017, at 08:53, Scott Granados  wrote:

I don’t know, didn’t you have the extreme opposite up there with hot glowing 
embers falling from the sky?  As I recall you lived in a fire zone like I did 
in California just a bit more north with out the nice weather and weed of 
California to off set the stresses of evacuation.;)

(Although that Vancouver smoke ain’t half bad.



> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Stuff falling from the sky around here tends to be white and cold this time 
> of the year.  An umbrella might help a little, but a hood or touque is more 
> preferable.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:42, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Weather gods?
> 
> What ever happened to just going outside and seeingif you get wet or blown 
> over in the wind.
> 
> I find if I go outside and there is stuff falling from the sky I know I 
> should take the umbrella
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:18 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
> 
> Evening everyone.
> 
> I would like to share with you an app that lets you experience the weather in 
> a whole new way. The app is called "Weather Gods" and does a lot more than 
> display the weather. Since there might be too much to discuss here, you can 
> find out more at www.weathergodsapp.com and, if you like the idea, pay £2.99 
> in the UK app store for it. So it's "Weather Gods", without the quotes but 
> with spaces. Enjoy!
> 
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RE: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Simon Fogarty]

I didn’t need it but I’m always looking at different options.

I signed up to pCloud and Mega Upload,

With mega you get 50 gb free off the bat,



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Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 3:33 AM
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26 mars 2017 kl. 16:22 skrev Kliphton Miller 
>:

What is this other group?

It’s the Logic Pro accessibility mailing list that shares their synths and 
documentation and stuff on Dropbox.
/Krister

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RE: A service better than drop box, I love it!

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi cliffton,

Yeah seems to be the difference between the free version and the premium 
versions.

Oh well signing up through the app is very easy
Thanks.

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Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 12:04 AM
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I was not prompted for a credit card number at all.
On Mar 26, 2017, at 3:53 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Just had a quick look att the windows side fo the website,

Not overly impressed with the site from within IE,
And that’s just signing up.

Oh well, also not impressed with needing to give credit card details for 
something that is meant to be free.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 2:09 AM
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Okay, I am on another list that shares media and other things.  And instead of 
using dropbox, or send space with I absolutely hate, they used a service called 
“pCloud”. It has a IOS, Mac, windows, and android app.  You get 10GB free, and 
get 1GB up to 20gb free for referring a friend.  You get upload and download 
traffic allowances, and the app is 100 percent accessible on both Mac and PC.  
CAn’t say for windows or android, cause I don’t use it on either of those 
platforms.  Anyway, it’s free, unless you want to upgrade, and there plans are 
insanely cheap.  Anyway, below is my referral link.  Sign up with it, and we 
both get a free GB.
https://www.pcloud.com/welcome-to-pcloud/?discountcode=nNqQ1Wh2iHb9OssBQeEiYzZV


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Re: Need to contact the My Mac pages book urgently

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ramy,

You can contact me directly at the address:
a...@anarchie.org.uk

If you need help via Skype or even TeamViewer, we are in France, where the time 
is GMT+2.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 26 Mar 2017, at 19:41, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Helo all:
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> I need  to Contact the Creaters for the My mac pages book so urgently,
> I'm studying the book, but I need some things very urgently.
> Can anyone point me if  you have any contact details?
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