Apple kills off iPod Nano and Shuffle: USA Today

[M. Taylor]

Apple kills off iPod Nano and Shuffle:  USA Today 

It marks the end of an era: Apple has officially (and quietly) killed off
the iPod Nano and the iPod Shuffle, leaving just the iPod Touch as the only
remaining version of the company's iconic portable music players. "Today, we
are simplifying our iPod lineup with two models of iPod touch now with
double the capacity starting at just $199 and we are discontinuing the iPod
shuffle and iPod nano,' Apple said in a statement. If you click on "buy"
links for the Shuffle or Nano on Apple's websites, you'll receive a notice
that "the page you're looking for can't be found. You can still get to
"support" pages for the discontinued iPods. 

The writing has certainly been on the wall for some time, especially with
the features and functions of standalone iPods long part of the iPhone. The
iPod brand is now down to a $199 Touch version with 32GB of storage and a
$299 model with 128GB. Even with the presence of the lower priced Nano and
Shuffle, the iPod Touch has been the most popular iPod Apple sold; Touch
models provide an iPhone-like iOS experience without the phone. The iPod
Touch had been last updated in 2015. The then new iPod Nano is displayed
during an Apple special event at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts on
September 12, 2012 in San Francisco. 

The original iPod was not the first portable music player when it debuted in
the fall of 2001, initially as a product that only worked with the Mac. But
it soon helped transform Apple's standing beyond being just a computer
company and set them on the road towards eventually becoming the most
powerful brand in tech. Through the years, Apple has introduced new iPod
designs at various price points, all of which, beyond the Touch models, that
have since been discontinued. 

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/27/apple-kills-off-i
pod-nano-and-shuffle/516812001/


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Re: Refreshable Braille devices?

['Peggy' via MacVisionaries]

I am waiting for the Blitab to come out. It is supposed to display a full page 
of Braille and will also do graphics. The cost for the tablet is $500.00.
Peggy and Dixie Marie

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

The orbit reader is coming out as I have been told that a new version has been 
finalised and the instructions for the reader have been put in to braille as my 
department did these instructions a couple of weeks ago.  I work in the 
Transcription department at RNIB, (Royal National Institute of Blind people) in 
the UK and we do most of the commercial stuff that RNIB produce.

The Chairman at RNIB started this project as he told me that it was his idea.  
So it will come out in due course as the factory are at this moment assembling 
the new version.

It's just a question as to when it will come out and not if.

Kawal.
> On 26 Jul 2017, at 17:55, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, I know somebody in the US who has one. She got it at one of the 
> blindness summer conventions. They didn't have very many of them. But she 
> definitely has one. I have not seen it yet. Not in person anyway.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> There has been so much talk on other lists about the Orbit reader that it 
>> will come this or that month and it hasn’t come out yet.
>> I really doubt its ever going to be released. But we’ll see.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 25 juli 2017 kl. 23:05 skrev Kliphton Miller :
>>> 
>>> I doubt that the expensive ones will go away.  Yes the orbit gives a 
>>> cheaper option, but it has been rumored to have a lot of bugs, it only 
>>> connects to 1 device at a time, and as long as state agencies are paying 
>>> for there clients to have them, they will continue to be around.  JMO
 On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 The orbit reader is coming and it's going to cost £500 (nort sure what 
 that is in dollars) but it's a whole lot cheaper.  When that comes out on 
 the market, braille displays, the expensive ones may be finished!
 
 Kawal.
> On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:02, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, that 
> user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. 
> Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do 
> braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic 
> displays and sell a thousand a year, think you could sell them cheap and 
> make a profit? Or would a million a year be more in line?
> 
> I've never studied marketing and all that but can say that if a company 
> does not make a profit, it cannot stay in business.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 7/24/2017 8:50 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than 
>> the blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like 
>> them, I just think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Les,
>>> Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for 
>>> the deafblind?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 7/24/2017 8:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 Hi Mary,
 
 In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. The
 ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about
 $4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a
 blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Mary Otten > wrote:
 
> If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive
> blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the
> varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB stick.
> And it also has note taking capability. It has an excellent warranty.
> Some people also find it more complicated than the traditional regular
> braille 

Re: Apple Beta Program

[E.T.]

   That is what I have done. After I sign in with my Apple ID, I get 
the code on the iPhone and enter it. It fails.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 7/27/2017 10:25 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Yes High Sierra just had a new update

When you hit allow to allow your device enter the code displayed on the next 
screen on your device before you hit OK on your phone.



On Jul 27, 2017, at 1:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  I tried to log in to get a new macOS installer and entered the verification 
code sent to my iPhone which failed. What confuses me I also get an iCloud 
dialog with a verification code. Too many attempts so am now locked out for a 
few hours. While I wait, can someone clear up this confusion? And by the way, 
is there in fact a newer beta version? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Apple Beta Program

[Scott Granados]

Yes High Sierra just had a new update

When you hit allow to allow your device enter the code displayed on the next 
screen on your device before you hit OK on your phone.


> On Jul 27, 2017, at 1:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I tried to log in to get a new macOS installer and entered the verification 
> code sent to my iPhone which failed. What confuses me I also get an iCloud 
> dialog with a verification code. Too many attempts so am now locked out for a 
> few hours. While I wait, can someone clear up this confusion? And by the way, 
> is there in fact a newer beta version? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Apple Beta Program

[E.T.]

   I tried to log in to get a new macOS installer and entered the 
verification code sent to my iPhone which failed. What confuses me I 
also get an iCloud dialog with a verification code. Too many attempts so 
am now locked out for a few hours. While I wait, can someone clear up 
this confusion? And by the way, is there in fact a newer beta version? 
Thanks.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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RE: Making a network between my Macmini and My windows 7 machine

[gary-melconian]

Agree with you on that one.  On my gigapower network with att I get really 
great band wwidth with wired compared to eh wireless network around this big 
house.  A lot of blind spots  wher no wifi around and that’s  why I asked about 
mesh routers around the house.  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making a network between my Macmini and My windows 7 machine

I’ll take the network question part of this.  For best performance you’d use a 
wire.  Wireless is good but wired is still your fastest option.  You can nail 
that wired connection to gigabit and get quite a bit of throughput.  Wireless 
will work but expect the wire to be as much as twice as fast possibly more.  
(That’s a rough estimation there’s a lot of factors to consider)

One other option you might go with is setting up a network attached storage 
that both your Mac and windows have access to.  You can get several terabytes 
for a couple hundred bucks and then you don’t have to leave both machines on 
all the time or depend on Windows.  You can use also different file transfer 
methods SIFS for Windows, and so forth which should perform better.  Just 
another way to get from here to there, take it a you wish and good luck.


> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:08 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> 
> don't know if this is possible, but I need to make a network between 
> my mac mini and my windows 7 computer, the reason is that, my data is 
> very huge and I need to use my Hd that is already on my windows 
> machine.
> so, will my idea can be achieved or it is not possible?
> also, is there any other way that I can do this/ and, what is the 
> best, to use network cable or to use wireless network? note that in my 
> mac mini there is a port for the network cable.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
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> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
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Re: Refreshable Braille devices?

[Scott Granados]

Kawal, glad to hear this.  A lot of us are very skeptical as to whether it’s 
coming out or not at all so you working on the documentation is a good 
indicator that things are moving along.


> On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The orbit reader is coming out as I have been told that a new version has 
> been finalised and the instructions for the reader have been put in to 
> braille as my department did these instructions a couple of weeks ago.  I 
> work in the Transcription department at RNIB, (Royal National Institute of 
> Blind people) in the UK and we do most of the commercial stuff that RNIB 
> produce.
> 
> The Chairman at RNIB started this project as he told me that it was his idea. 
>  So it will come out in due course as the factory are at this moment 
> assembling the new version.
> 
> It's just a question as to when it will come out and not if.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 26 Jul 2017, at 17:55, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I know somebody in the US who has one. She got it at one of the 
>> blindness summer conventions. They didn't have very many of them. But she 
>> definitely has one. I have not seen it yet. Not in person anyway.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> There has been so much talk on other lists about the Orbit reader that it 
>>> will come this or that month and it hasn’t come out yet.
>>> I really doubt its ever going to be released. But we’ll see.
>>> /A
>>> 
 25 juli 2017 kl. 23:05 skrev Kliphton Miller :
 
 I doubt that the expensive ones will go away.  Yes the orbit gives a 
 cheaper option, but it has been rumored to have a lot of bugs, it only 
 connects to 1 device at a time, and as long as state agencies are paying 
 for there clients to have them, they will continue to be around.  JMO
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The orbit reader is coming and it's going to cost £500 (nort sure what 
> that is in dollars) but it's a whole lot cheaper.  When that comes out on 
> the market, braille displays, the expensive ones may be finished!
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:02, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, 
>> that user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. 
>> Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do 
>> braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic 
>> displays and sell a thousand a year, think you could sell them cheap and 
>> make a profit? Or would a million a year be more in line?
>> 
>> I've never studied marketing and all that but can say that if a company 
>> does not make a profit, it cannot stay in business.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 7/24/2017 8:50 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>> And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than 
>>> the blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like 
>>> them, I just think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Les,
 Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for 
 the deafblind?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 7/24/2017 8:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> 
> In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. 
> The
> ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about
> $4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a
> blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
>> If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive
>> blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the
>> varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB 
>> stick.
>> And it also has note taking 

Re: How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET

[Daniel Miller]

Because this isn’t   the list to go into detail about said issues, I was simply 
wanting to point out that you’re wrong about there not being any.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Well, that’s an absolutely useless message.  Why bother saying there are 
> issues if you won’t list them?
> 
> And no I don’t see any issues with notifications on IOS 11.  Clearing them is 
> easy, I like how your recents and older are split up and you no longer have 
> to work with the upper task bar or swipe down to clear.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh trust me, there are tons of issues with notifications in the beans right 
>> now. I’m not going into detail about what they are, just be advised that 
>> there are issues.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone  
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you’re wrong, the beta as far as I can tell has notifications with out 
>>> issue.
>>> 
 On Jul 27, 2017, at 2:16 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
 
 So how does this correlate with voiceover? I think in the beta we
 can't yet access notification options am I wrong?
 
 Cheers
 
> On 7/27/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> CNET How To - Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM
> 
> How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET
> 
> After installing iOS 11 you're bound to notice a lot of small changes and
> some bigger changes. There's the ability to record your screen, a
> customizable control center, and then there's. Notification Center.
> Actually, it's no longer called Notification Center. It's now called Cover
> Sheet. It looks similar to the lock screen, but still works much in the
> same
> way Notification Center did.
> 
> It looks simple enough, right? You still swipe down from the top of the
> screen to view recent notifications, but now an additional swipe up is
> required to view older notifications. Notice the "Earlier Today" section.
> 
> To go back to the previous screen, you can swipe up from the very bottom 
> of
> the screen. If you don't start at the bottom, you'll likely keep scrolling
> through older alerts. Getting it right will take some patience and
> practice.
> 
> 
> Interaction has changed, kind of
> 
> With Cover Sheet, you can still swipe in either direction across a
> notification to do things like clear or open it. Only now, you can swipe
> all
> the way to complete the action without having to press the button once 
> it's
> visible.
> 
> A long or hard press on an alert will also bring up more interaction
> options, as it did prior to iOS 11.
> 
> Access Today and Camera
> One benefit to the new Cover Sheet is it provides quick access to the 
> Today
> section and the Camera app. At any time you can swipe down, then swipe to
> the right or left to access the respective feature. Just make sure you're
> not touching an alert (I found using the edge of the screen to work quite
> well).
> 
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Re: How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET

[Scott Granados]

Well, that’s an absolutely useless message.  Why bother saying there are issues 
if you won’t list them?

And no I don’t see any issues with notifications on IOS 11.  Clearing them is 
easy, I like how your recents and older are split up and you no longer have to 
work with the upper task bar or swipe down to clear.

What am I missing?

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Oh trust me, there are tons of issues with notifications in the beans right 
> now. I’m not going into detail about what they are, just be advised that 
> there are issues.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone  
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you’re wrong, the beta as far as I can tell has notifications with out 
>> issue.
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 2:16 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So how does this correlate with voiceover? I think in the beta we
>>> can't yet access notification options am I wrong?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
 On 7/27/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
 CNET How To - Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM
 
 How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET
 
 After installing iOS 11 you're bound to notice a lot of small changes and
 some bigger changes. There's the ability to record your screen, a
 customizable control center, and then there's. Notification Center.
 Actually, it's no longer called Notification Center. It's now called Cover
 Sheet. It looks similar to the lock screen, but still works much in the
 same
 way Notification Center did.
 
 It looks simple enough, right? You still swipe down from the top of the
 screen to view recent notifications, but now an additional swipe up is
 required to view older notifications. Notice the "Earlier Today" section.
 
 To go back to the previous screen, you can swipe up from the very bottom of
 the screen. If you don't start at the bottom, you'll likely keep scrolling
 through older alerts. Getting it right will take some patience and
 practice.
 
 
 Interaction has changed, kind of
 
 With Cover Sheet, you can still swipe in either direction across a
 notification to do things like clear or open it. Only now, you can swipe
 all
 the way to complete the action without having to press the button once it's
 visible.
 
 A long or hard press on an alert will also bring up more interaction
 options, as it did prior to iOS 11.
 
 Access Today and Camera
 One benefit to the new Cover Sheet is it provides quick access to the Today
 section and the Camera app. At any time you can swipe down, then swipe to
 the right or left to access the respective feature. Just make sure you're
 not touching an alert (I found using the edge of the screen to work quite
 well).
 
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 https://www.cnet.com/how-to/making-sense-of-ios-11s-new-notification-center-
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Re: How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET

[Daniel Miller]

Oh trust me, there are tons of issues with notifications in the beans right 
now. I’m not going into detail about what they are, just be advised that there 
are issues.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you’re wrong, the beta as far as I can tell has notifications with out 
> issue.
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 2:16 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
>> 
>> So how does this correlate with voiceover? I think in the beta we
>> can't yet access notification options am I wrong?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>>> On 7/27/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> CNET How To - Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM
>>> 
>>> How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET
>>> 
>>> After installing iOS 11 you're bound to notice a lot of small changes and
>>> some bigger changes. There's the ability to record your screen, a
>>> customizable control center, and then there's. Notification Center.
>>> Actually, it's no longer called Notification Center. It's now called Cover
>>> Sheet. It looks similar to the lock screen, but still works much in the
>>> same
>>> way Notification Center did.
>>> 
>>> It looks simple enough, right? You still swipe down from the top of the
>>> screen to view recent notifications, but now an additional swipe up is
>>> required to view older notifications. Notice the "Earlier Today" section.
>>> 
>>> To go back to the previous screen, you can swipe up from the very bottom of
>>> the screen. If you don't start at the bottom, you'll likely keep scrolling
>>> through older alerts. Getting it right will take some patience and
>>> practice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Interaction has changed, kind of
>>> 
>>> With Cover Sheet, you can still swipe in either direction across a
>>> notification to do things like clear or open it. Only now, you can swipe
>>> all
>>> the way to complete the action without having to press the button once it's
>>> visible.
>>> 
>>> A long or hard press on an alert will also bring up more interaction
>>> options, as it did prior to iOS 11.
>>> 
>>> Access Today and Camera
>>> One benefit to the new Cover Sheet is it provides quick access to the Today
>>> section and the Camera app. At any time you can swipe down, then swipe to
>>> the right or left to access the respective feature. Just make sure you're
>>> not touching an alert (I found using the edge of the screen to work quite
>>> well).
>>> 
>>> Original Article at:
>>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/making-sense-of-ios-11s-new-notification-center-
>>> cover-sheet/#ftag=CAD5457c2c
>>> 
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Re: How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET

[Scott Granados]

Yes, you’re wrong, the beta as far as I can tell has notifications with out 
issue.

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 2:16 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> 
> So how does this correlate with voiceover? I think in the beta we
> can't yet access notification options am I wrong?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 7/27/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> CNET How To - Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM
>> 
>> How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET
>> 
>> After installing iOS 11 you're bound to notice a lot of small changes and
>> some bigger changes. There's the ability to record your screen, a
>> customizable control center, and then there's. Notification Center.
>> Actually, it's no longer called Notification Center. It's now called Cover
>> Sheet. It looks similar to the lock screen, but still works much in the
>> same
>> way Notification Center did.
>> 
>> It looks simple enough, right? You still swipe down from the top of the
>> screen to view recent notifications, but now an additional swipe up is
>> required to view older notifications. Notice the "Earlier Today" section.
>> 
>> To go back to the previous screen, you can swipe up from the very bottom of
>> the screen. If you don't start at the bottom, you'll likely keep scrolling
>> through older alerts. Getting it right will take some patience and
>> practice.
>> 
>> 
>> Interaction has changed, kind of
>> 
>> With Cover Sheet, you can still swipe in either direction across a
>> notification to do things like clear or open it. Only now, you can swipe
>> all
>> the way to complete the action without having to press the button once it's
>> visible.
>> 
>> A long or hard press on an alert will also bring up more interaction
>> options, as it did prior to iOS 11.
>> 
>> Access Today and Camera
>> One benefit to the new Cover Sheet is it provides quick access to the Today
>> section and the Camera app. At any time you can swipe down, then swipe to
>> the right or left to access the respective feature. Just make sure you're
>> not touching an alert (I found using the edge of the screen to work quite
>> well).
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/making-sense-of-ios-11s-new-notification-center-
>> cover-sheet/#ftag=CAD5457c2c
>> 
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Re: Making a network between my Macmini and My windows 7 machine

[Scott Granados]

I’ll take the network question part of this.  For best performance you’d use a 
wire.  Wireless is good but wired is still your fastest option.  You can nail 
that wired connection to gigabit and get quite a bit of throughput.  Wireless 
will work but expect the wire to be as much as twice as fast possibly more.  
(That’s a rough estimation there’s a lot of factors to consider)

One other option you might go with is setting up a network attached storage 
that both your Mac and windows have access to.  You can get several terabytes 
for a couple hundred bucks and then you don’t have to leave both machines on 
all the time or depend on Windows.  You can use also different file transfer 
methods SIFS for Windows, and so forth which should perform better.  Just 
another way to get from here to there, take it a you wish and good luck.


> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:08 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> 
> don't know if this is possible, but I need to make a network between
> my mac mini and my windows 7 computer, the reason is that, my data is
> very huge and I need to use my Hd that is already on my windows
> machine.
> so, will my idea can be achieved or it is not possible?
> also, is there any other way that I can do this/
> and, what is the best, to use network cable or to use wireless
> network? note that in my mac mini there is a port for the network
> cable.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
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RE: iRobot iPhone app

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Oh yes lets not even go there. I'm not sure though, if iRobot plans to sell map 
data.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iRobot iPhone app

Guess what though, your robot vacuum doesn’t steal from you.  I have had 
cleaning people still stuff before and caught them on camera.  Of course you 
can’t yet get a hot latin robotic house cleaner but something tells me that’s 
being worked on.;) (or where ever your interests may be)

Let’s remember I-Robot was the robot manufacturer in the Asimov book.  I’m not 
sure I’d buy an 800 LB bullet proof mechanical house cleaner with a positronic 
brain and a mind of it’s own though.  I’m all for the rise of the machines, I 
just don’t to make it quite that easy.





> On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>  

> I speak for myself rather than the whole population of the UK Scott.
> 
> I live within my means and I don't have credit cards to buy these things.
> 
> I am worried if I get a machine, it will break down and it will cost a 
> fortune to fix.  You know where you are with human beings.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 26 Jul 2017, at 03:33, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, are things so bad in the UK it’s cheaper to higher manual labor over a 
>> machine?  Wow 
>> 
>> I think I’m in for about $1500 US and I have both the vacuum and the floor 
>> polisher mopper thing.
>> 
>> I can’t speak for a dog but when I lived out west I had a cat that used to 
>> go after the Rumba once in a while.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just have a human cleaner to do my stuff for me as I can't afford an I 
>>> phone robot.  Also I would be scared in case my guide dog took a disliking 
>>> to it as she would bark and growl!  I just pay my cleaner once a month and 
>>> she does it all and I don't know how much an I phone robot would cost and 
>>> what would happen if the robot didn't get paid, would it go on strike or 
>>> faign a broken parts?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 25 Jul 2017, at 14:26, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 Bed Bath and Beyond is a US store that sells oddly enough home goods.:)
 
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So that is what in USA dollars or euros?
> 
> And bed bath and beyond  what part of the world are you in?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2017 3:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> 
> $200 between the 960 and 980. $200 between the 880 and 960.
> Bed Bath and Beyond is the best place to get one, especially if you use 
> one of their 20% off coupons.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Partain
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> 
> So what's the price difference?
> Rhonda
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> 
> Hi:
> Me too, have a guidedog that is a cross, and 2 long hair cats. Acording 
> to the review, they work great on dog hair. The 880. 890, 960, and 980 
> got the best reviews in regards to dog hairs. The 690 did okay in the dog 
> hair reviews. The 800 and 900 have different technology where the hair 
> doesn't get caught in the rollers. I just haven't decided on which to 
> try. The 900 series have the longest battery life.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Partain
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> 
> What about dog hair? I have a guide dog a golden retriever who sheds  a  
> pound of hair per day!!! Well, it's a lot.
> Rhonda
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iRobot iPhone app
> 
> They work very well.
> 
> Especially for keeping maintenance after a deep cleaning.
> 

Re: Making a network between my Macmini and My windows 7 machine

[David Griffith]

A few pointers.

You can do this as long as both machines are on the same wifi network.

1. You will need to have Windows 7 setup so that you have a login password.

2. You will need to have your drives /folders permission  on Windows to 
be shared. Go to the properties of each drive/folder you want to share 
and make sure that sharing is enabled. Go to advance


sharing to set up whether you want the ability to just read or edit 
files through your sharing link.
3. On the Mac side use command shift C to bring up computer in Finder. 
Look down for Network and see if you can see your Windows Machine there. 
If you can see it copy the name  to the pasteboard that the Mac 
recognises it by.
4. Now press command K to set up a network connection. Paste in the name 
of the pc you want to connect to.
 Then tab to the request for password that will come up and type in the 
normal password that you normally use to access your windows machine.


That is pretty much it. You will see the drives on your network machine. 
Whether you can access them will depend on whether you have set sharing 
permissions on the Windows side.


David Griffith
o


On 27/07/2017 11:08, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello all:

don't know if this is possible, but I need to make a network between
my mac mini and my windows 7 computer, the reason is that, my data is
very huge and I need to use my Hd that is already on my windows
machine.
so, will my idea can be achieved or it is not possible?
also, is there any other way that I can do this/
and, what is the best, to use network cable or to use wireless
network? note that in my mac mini there is a port for the network
cable.

Thanks in advance.




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Re: IOS Beta 11 mail app

[Jenine Stanley]

My Reply button is not labeled either but all other buttons are in the mail 
app, public beta 3. 

Actually, my proximity sensor seems to be working better under this beta than 
it has for a long time.
> On Jul 27, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Report anything to apple.
> By the way i can not access airplay from the control center on my ios 11 test 
> devices.
> I will have to report this i think.
> /
> 
>> 27 juli 2017 kl. 08:30 skrev Simon Fogarty > >:
>> 
>> Hi Listers,
>>  
>> In the mail app within IOS 11 beta 3 I believe it was that I installed 
>> yesterday,
>>  
>> I’m finding that the reply and delete buttons only say button not reply or 
>> delete
>> yet the compose and move buttons which are on either side of the reply & 
>> delete buttons at the bottom of the screen do have the words or vo alt tags 
>> being read out,
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Re: IOS Beta 11 mail app

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Report anything to apple.
By the way i can not access airplay from the control center on my ios 11 test 
devices.
I will have to report this i think.
/

> 27 juli 2017 kl. 08:30 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Hi Listers,
>  
> In the mail app within IOS 11 beta 3 I believe it was that I installed 
> yesterday,
>  
> I’m finding that the reply and delete buttons only say button not reply or 
> delete
> yet the compose and move buttons which are on either side of the reply & 
> delete buttons at the bottom of the screen do have the words or vo alt tags 
> being read out,
>  
> also I’m noticing that when on a phone call and go to take the phone away 
> from my ear the procsimity sensor isn’t kicking in to life and letting the 
> phone go to handsfree,
>  
> the last phone call I was on also didn’t give me a speaker or headphones 
> option to switch to.
>  
> Crazy. Pretty sure these were there in the previous beta version.
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Making a network between my Macmini and My windows 7 machine

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello all:

don't know if this is possible, but I need to make a network between
my mac mini and my windows 7 computer, the reason is that, my data is
very huge and I need to use my Hd that is already on my windows
machine.
so, will my idea can be achieved or it is not possible?
also, is there any other way that I can do this/
and, what is the best, to use network cable or to use wireless
network? note that in my mac mini there is a port for the network
cable.

Thanks in advance.


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3D audio podcast tutorial 4 is out

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

We've uploaded tutorial 4 of our 3D audio experience series.

This one deals with more advanced audio, including filtering, effects and 
positioning of those effects nodes. You probably never heard Alex talk like 
this, but this is the whole point of the tutorial.

The link is available at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a96w05bK-mM=1=PLTWqp6-7XkjUHXBShNQDuqGygHF5AA3kZ
 


As usual, the article contains the example project file which you can use at 
your own leisure. it will be interesting to see what you guys come up with.

Enjoy :)


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IOS Beta 11 mail app

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Listers,

In the mail app within IOS 11 beta 3 I believe it was that I installed 
yesterday,

I'm finding that the reply and delete buttons only say button not reply or 
delete
yet the compose and move buttons which are on either side of the reply & delete 
buttons at the bottom of the screen do have the words or vo alt tags being read 
out,

also I'm noticing that when on a phone call and go to take the phone away from 
my ear the procsimity sensor isn't kicking in to life and letting the phone go 
to handsfree,

the last phone call I was on also didn't give me a speaker or headphones option 
to switch to.

Crazy. Pretty sure these were there in the previous beta version.

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Re: How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET

[Oriol Gómez]

So how does this correlate with voiceover? I think in the beta we
can't yet access notification options am I wrong?

Cheers

On 7/27/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> CNET How To - Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM
>
> How iOS 11's Notification Center has changed - CNET
>
> After installing iOS 11 you're bound to notice a lot of small changes and
> some bigger changes. There's the ability to record your screen, a
> customizable control center, and then there's. Notification Center.
> Actually, it's no longer called Notification Center. It's now called Cover
> Sheet. It looks similar to the lock screen, but still works much in the
> same
> way Notification Center did.
>
> It looks simple enough, right? You still swipe down from the top of the
> screen to view recent notifications, but now an additional swipe up is
> required to view older notifications. Notice the "Earlier Today" section.
>
> To go back to the previous screen, you can swipe up from the very bottom of
> the screen. If you don't start at the bottom, you'll likely keep scrolling
> through older alerts. Getting it right will take some patience and
> practice.
>
>
> Interaction has changed, kind of
>
> With Cover Sheet, you can still swipe in either direction across a
> notification to do things like clear or open it. Only now, you can swipe
> all
> the way to complete the action without having to press the button once it's
> visible.
>
> A long or hard press on an alert will also bring up more interaction
> options, as it did prior to iOS 11.
>
> Access Today and Camera
> One benefit to the new Cover Sheet is it provides quick access to the Today
> section and the Camera app. At any time you can swipe down, then swipe to
> the right or left to access the respective feature. Just make sure you're
> not touching an alert (I found using the edge of the screen to work quite
> well).
>
> Original Article at:
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/making-sense-of-ios-11s-new-notification-center-
> cover-sheet/#ftag=CAD5457c2c
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