Re: Making the Mac play a sound when connecting the adapter

[Sadam Ahmed]

Thanks Jonathan.
That worked perfectly.
Sadam Ahmed

On 7/9/2018 9:20 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:



  How to enable power chime:

Step 1: Disconnect your Mac from power.

Step 2: Launch Terminal using Spotlight, or open the 
application manually (it’s inside your Mac’s Applications folder).


Step 3: Paste the following line into Terminal and hit Enter:

|defaults write com.apple.PowerChime ChimeOnAllHardware -bool
true; open /System/Library/CoreServices/PowerChime.app &|

Step 4: Re-connect your Mac to the MagSafe power source. If the 
battery needs charging and there’s power, the familiar chime you’re 
used to hearing on your iOS devices should trigger.



  How to disable power chime:

Just paste the following line into the Terminal window:

|defaults write com.apple.PowerChime ChimeOnAllHardware -bool
false;killall PowerChime|

Hit Enter and you’re good.

The command kills the running process which takes care of playing the 
chime while disabling the feature through the defaults command string.



  How to play power chime manually:

Paste this into the Terminal window and hit Enter:

|afplay

/System/Library/CoreServices/PowerChime.app/Contents/Resources/connect_power.aif|

You should head the chime immediately after hitting Enter.

For those interested in technicalities, the Terminal command described 
in this article tells OS X to always play the power chime, regardless 
of the model of your Mac. It also launches the tiny PowerChime 
application which must be running in the background in order for the 
power chime to trigger upon connecting the device to power.


But even this little feature couldn’t have gone without the attention 
to detail Apple’s always been associated with.


As OS X Daily explains, if you keep an eye on the battery icon in your 
Mac’s menu bar, you’ll realize OS X triggers the power chime at the 
exact same time as the charging bolt appears on the battery icon.


mac-charging-indicator-menu-bar

“Note the battery charging indicator will only display onscreen if 
there is less than 100 percent power available with the Mac battery 
and the Mac is either in sleep mode or the screen is locked,” OS X 
Daily said.


Again, the new MacBook ships with the power chime enabled out of the 
box, providing an auditory confirmation that the charging cable is 
attached to its USB-C port and the computer is charging.



From an IDB article.

On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Sadam Ahmed > wrote:


Hi all,

A while ago someone posted a string which could be typed via terminal 
so that the Mac would make the same chime noise that an iOS device 
makes when connected to power.


Can anyone assist with this?

Many thanks for assistance rendered.

Sincerely,

sadam Ahmed

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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah but we're talking about the Mac and it's not possible to use them with 
Voiceover.

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> On Jul 8, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> On iOS you can use the Siri Voices for VoiceOver. 
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 3:42 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This statement is wrong. Siri voices do not work with VoiceOver. Unless 
>> you've found a way to get them to work with VoiceOver with some sort of 
>> hack, it's not possible. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yes it is enables voiece forsiri with voiceover 
>>> gladhe to halp 
>>> 
>>> 
 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:29, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
 
 but, does that enable the voice for use with voiceover?
 
 thanks
 
> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
> go to siri settinks and tri to look at siri voice after tthe language of
> siri
> Pavlo yefetov
> 
>> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:22, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
>> 
>> hi can you explain this?
>> I can't find siri voices in siri settings
>> 
>>> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>>> hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem
>>> preferences
>>> and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
>>> 
>>> понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado
>>> написал:
 
 hi listers,
 
 hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,
 
 What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
 voice over?
 
 
 I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear,
 but
 I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.
 
 is this even possible?
 
 using Macbook pro with High Sierra.
 
 Thanks guys for any info.
 
 
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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Maria Reyes]

On iOS you can use the Siri Voices for VoiceOver. 

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 3:42 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This statement is wrong. Siri voices do not work with VoiceOver. Unless 
> you've found a way to get them to work with VoiceOver with some sort of hack, 
> it's not possible. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>> 
>> yes it is enables voiece forsiri with voiceover 
>> gladhe to halp 
>> 
>> 
>>> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:29, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
>>> 
>>> but, does that enable the voice for use with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
 On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
 go to siri settinks and tri to look at siri voice after tthe language of
 siri
 Pavlo yefetov
 
> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:22, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
> 
> hi can you explain this?
> I can't find siri voices in siri settings
> 
>> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>> hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem
>> preferences
>> and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
>> 
>> понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado
>> написал:
>>> 
>>> hi listers,
>>> 
>>> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,
>>> 
>>> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
>>> voice over?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear,
>>> but
>>> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.
>>> 
>>> is this even possible?
>>> 
>>> using Macbook pro with High Sierra.
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys for any info.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OMG, I can't believe I fixed it!

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have no idea exactly what happens since any Google search I tried just says 
look at these pictures. But it is certainly possible to completely redo what is 
where and what the option key might do. I don’t know if ISO means the keyboard 
layout is following an International standard or if it means that one can enter 
more international characters. The only thing talked about is that the Spanish 
ISO keyboard can be used to type any Latin language. 

Might be interesting to see if perhaps control and arrow keys move by word like 
they do on Windows systems. I do remember something from my Sun UNIX days about 
control-W being a standard for close window. 

all  of the differences with the Spanish keyboard are in the punctuation, keys 
thinks like ; is ñ and - is an accent. 

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn , if 
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 11:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>   I noticed there is a Spanish ISO keyboard in addition to Spanish without 
> ISO. So these keyboards essentially remap the physical keyboard? It appears 
> that is what Donna experienced.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
> 
> On 7/6/2018 6:46 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Donna,
>> First of all, I believe you said your keyboard selection was ISO which is a 
>> very specialized keyboard listed under “other languages”. I am not quite 
>> sure how it works. For those that have learned touch typing in the US but 
>> need to input a bit of accented characters there is besides the option-e for 
>> accent acute and option i for accent circumflex the US International 
>> keyboard. This makes the accent input more like on a PC where you don’t need 
>> to use a two finger keystroke to input accents.
>> For more information read:
>> https://www.macworld.com/article/1147039/os-x/accentinput.html
>> Best Wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:29 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's good to know, Anne.  I can well believe that I may have changed 
>>> something accidentally.  Someday I may try it again.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2018, at 12:36 AM, Anne Robertson >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m still using Sierra, but for years now I’ve had two keyboards 
 configured on my Mac since French uses so many different accents. I’ve 
 never had a problem switching keyboards and the French layout has never 
 interfered with the functioning of any keys.
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On 5 Jul 2018, at 21:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> No, I never got around to looking at the keyboard.  I'm pretty 
> comfortable entering diacritics with the accent key on the US keyboard, 
> so I probably won't play with the Spanish one again till I have some time 
> on my hands.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 2:18 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Taking a break from housework. I removed Spanish from Languages and 
>> Regions. Interesting that it was still in Keyboard prefs so removed that 
>> too. Now the text input menu is as it was before.
>> 
>> Have you looked at the character viewer in that menu? Might be easier 
>> than having more than one keyboard. There's also an emoji viewer there.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
>> 
>> On 7/5/2018 11:19 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi ET,
>>> Mostly I added the Spanish keyboard for grins.  I may give it another 
>>> go someday, but for now, I'm just sticking with US.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 5, 2018, at 10:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Donna,
 I was curious so I went to Languages and Regions and added Spanish. 
 This also added the Spanish keyboard in Keyboard preferences. Then I 
 went to menu extras and could not find the text input menu. That is 
 because it changed to US which is still my preferred language. So this 
 is where one can chnge the language on the fly. Typically with just 
 one language one can go to the text input menu and bring up the 
 character viewer and select those oddball symbols so no need for extra 
 keyboards if one only needs to type in an occasional foreign language 
 character.
 
 As an aside I tested the option key and its fine. I am going to stop 
 at that. (grins)
 
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Re: Making the Mac play a sound when connecting the adapter

[Jonathan Cohn]

How to enable power chime:
Step 1: Disconnect your Mac from power.

Step 2: Launch Terminal using Spotlight, or open the application manually (it’s 
inside your Mac’s Applications folder).

Step 3: Paste the following line into Terminal and hit Enter:

defaults write com.apple.PowerChime ChimeOnAllHardware -bool true; open 
/System/Library/CoreServices/PowerChime.app &
Step 4: Re-connect your Mac to the MagSafe power source. If the battery needs 
charging and there’s power, the familiar chime you’re used to hearing on your 
iOS devices should trigger.

How to disable power chime:
Just paste the following line into the Terminal window:

defaults write com.apple.PowerChime ChimeOnAllHardware -bool false;killall 
PowerChime
Hit Enter and you’re good.

The command kills the running process which takes care of playing the chime 
while disabling the feature through the defaults command string.

How to play power chime manually:
Paste this into the Terminal window and hit Enter:

afplay 
/System/Library/CoreServices/PowerChime.app/Contents/Resources/connect_power.aif
You should head the chime immediately after hitting Enter.

For those interested in technicalities, the Terminal command described in this 
article tells OS X to always play the power chime, regardless of the model of 
your Mac. It also launches the tiny PowerChime application which must be 
running in the background in order for the power chime to trigger upon 
connecting the device to power.

But even this little feature couldn’t have gone without the attention to detail 
Apple’s always been associated with.

As OS X Daily explains, if you keep an eye on the battery icon in your Mac’s 
menu bar, you’ll realize OS X triggers the power chime at the exact same time 
as the charging bolt appears on the battery icon.


“Note the battery charging indicator will only display onscreen if there is 
less than 100 percent power available with the Mac battery and the Mac is 
either in sleep mode or the screen is locked,” OS X Daily said.

Again, the new MacBook ships with the power chime enabled out of the box, 
providing an auditory confirmation that the charging cable is attached to its 
USB-C port and the computer is charging.


>From an IDB article.

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> A while ago someone posted a string which could be typed via terminal so that 
> the Mac would make the same chime noise that an iOS device makes when 
> connected to power.
> 
> Can anyone assist with this?
> 
> Many thanks for assistance rendered.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> sadam Ahmed
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Making the Mac play a sound when connecting the adapter

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,

A while ago someone posted a string which could be typed via terminal so 
that the Mac would make the same chime noise that an iOS device makes 
when connected to power.


Can anyone assist with this?

Many thanks for assistance rendered.

Sincerely,

sadam Ahmed

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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

This statement is wrong. Siri voices do not work with VoiceOver. Unless you've 
found a way to get them to work with VoiceOver with some sort of hack, it's not 
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> On Jul 8, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
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> yes it is enables voiece forsiri with voiceover 
> gladhe to halp 
> 
> 
>> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:29, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
>> 
>> but, does that enable the voice for use with voiceover?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>>> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>>> go to siri settinks and tri to look at siri voice after tthe language of
>>> siri
>>> Pavlo yefetov
>>> 
 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:22, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
 
 hi can you explain this?
 I can't find siri voices in siri settings
 
> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
> hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem
> preferences
> and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
> 
> понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado
> написал:
>> 
>> hi listers,
>> 
>> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,
>> 
>> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
>> voice over?
>> 
>> 
>> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear,
>> but
>> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.
>> 
>> is this even possible?
>> 
>> using Macbook pro with High Sierra.
>> 
>> Thanks guys for any info.
>> 
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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Pavel Yefetov]

yes it is enables voiece forsiri with voiceover 
gladhe to halp 


> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:29, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
> 
> but, does that enable the voice for use with voiceover?
> 
> thanks
> 
> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>> go to siri settinks and tri to look at siri voice after tthe language of
>> siri
>> Pavlo yefetov
>> 
>>> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:22, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
>>> 
>>> hi can you explain this?
>>> I can't find siri voices in siri settings
>>> 
>>> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
 hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem
 preferences
 and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
 
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> hi listers,
> 
> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,
> 
> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
> voice over?
> 
> 
> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear,
> but
> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.
> 
> is this even possible?
> 
> using Macbook pro with High Sierra.
> 
> Thanks guys for any info.
> 
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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Pavel Yefetov]

siri voices it's after the language choser menu this tap wil giv you the 
voices for siri pavlo yefetov 

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> hi listers, 
>
> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this, 
>
> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with 
> voice over? 
>
>
> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear, but 
> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac. 
>
> is this even possible? 
>
> using Macbook pro with High Sierra. 
>
> Thanks guys for any info. 
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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Oriol Gómez]

but, does that enable the voice for use with voiceover?

thanks

On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
> go to siri settinks and tri to look at siri voice after tthe language of
> siri
> Pavlo yefetov
>
>> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:22, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
>>
>> hi can you explain this?
>> I can't find siri voices in siri settings
>>
>> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
>>> hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem
>>> preferences
>>> and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
>>>
>>> понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado
>>> написал:

 hi listers,

 hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,

 What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
 voice over?


 I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear,
 but
 I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.

 is this even possible?

 using Macbook pro with High Sierra.

 Thanks guys for any info.


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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Pavel Yefetov]

go to siri settinks and tri to look at siri voice after tthe language of siri 
Pavlo yefetov 

> 8 июля 2018 г., в 22:22, Oriol Gómez  написал(а):
> 
> hi can you explain this?
> I can't find siri voices in siri settings
> 
> On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
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>> and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
>> 
>> понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado написал:
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>>> hi listers,
>>> 
>>> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,
>>> 
>>> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
>>> voice over?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear, but
>>> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.
>>> 
>>> is this even possible?
>>> 
>>> using Macbook pro with High Sierra.
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys for any info.
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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Oriol Gómez]

hi can you explain this?
I can't find siri voices in siri settings

On 7/8/18, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
> hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem preferences
> and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov
>
> понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado написал:
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>> hi listers,
>>
>> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this,
>>
>> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with
>> voice over?
>>
>>
>> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear, but
>> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac.
>>
>> is this even possible?
>>
>> using Macbook pro with High Sierra.
>>
>> Thanks guys for any info.
>>
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Re: Siri voices for voice over on Mac?

[Pavel Yefetov]

hi there yes its a possible to have a siri voice go to sisttem preferences 
and choose a Siri voices in siri settinks pavlo yefetov 

понедельник, 14 мая 2018 г., 3:38:44 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado написал:
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> hi listers, 
>
> hope everybody is having a good time, now, my question is this, 
>
> What do I have to do exactly in order to get Siri voices working with 
> voice over? 
>
>
> I love this new female voice that I use  in my iphone, pretty clear, but 
> I  can't find the way to do the same with my mac. 
>
> is this even possible? 
>
> using Macbook pro with High Sierra. 
>
> Thanks guys for any info. 
>
>
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Re: Where to get the book on using Pages with VoiceOver?

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Alex,

The book is called “My Mac Pages,” by Anne and Archie Robertson.  It’s 
published by Mosen Consulting.  Go to 

> https://mosen.org/mymacpages/
Hope this helps.

Janet
> On Jul 8, 2018, at 8:56 AM, 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Someone on Twitter is asking me about using Pages with VO. This isn't 
> something I do often, so I'm not the best to ask. Someone on this list has a 
> book on this topic, though. Where can that book be obtained? I want to give 
> this person the link. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reading an E-Mail Thread from Oldest to newest

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

While I don't have an answer to your question, I note that Microsoft Outlook 
for Mac (which I need to use to access one of my accounts) does this by 
default. That is, if you expand a thread using the Right-Arrow key, focus is 
placed on the oldest unread message in the thread, from which you can move up 
to read the remaining (more recent) messages.

On 7/8/18, 07:43, "'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

 Does anybody know; is there a way to read an e-mail thread from original 
message, stepping one-by-one through the subsequent messages and winding it up 
with the most recent reply to the thread?

I am using the “on-board e-mail client” for MacOS and have tried setting 
the order both ways, but it does not seem to make any difference when reading 
through the suite of messages in a thread.

i often prefer reading a thread without expanding it so I can simply delete 
the currently read message and automatically open the next item.  The problem 
is that the next item is the message sent just prior to the currently read 
message. I wish there was a way to read a thread from oldest (presumably 
original) message to most recent message.

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that 
you would lie if you were in his place."
- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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Where to get the book on using Pages with VoiceOver?

['Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries]

Hello all,
Someone on Twitter is asking me about using Pages with VO. This isn't something 
I do often, so I'm not the best to ask. Someone on this list has a book on this 
topic, though. Where can that book be obtained? I want to give this person the 
link. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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Reading an E-Mail Thread from Oldest to newest

['Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries]

 Does anybody know; is there a way to read an e-mail thread from original 
message, stepping one-by-one through the subsequent messages and winding it up 
with the most recent reply to the thread?

I am using the “on-board e-mail client” for MacOS and have tried setting the 
order both ways, but it does not seem to make any difference when reading 
through the suite of messages in a thread.

i often prefer reading a thread without expanding it so I can simply delete the 
currently read message and automatically open the next item.  The problem is 
that the next item is the message sent just prior to the currently read 
message. I wish there was a way to read a thread from oldest (presumably 
original) message to most recent message.

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you 
would lie if you were in his place."
- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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