Re: viphone list?

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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:31 PM, The wolf  wrote:
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> can I get the viphone list subscription info please?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
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Re: A problem downloading a voice.

[Leo Bado]

Yes, I’m perfectly able to download apps on mac Appstore, in fact, I 
dleted all English voices exept Alex of course and then downloaded them 
again, one by one and after that I selected all check boxes for American 
English including Susan in order to download all the voices at once, but 
I never successed.


I select the check box for Susan and no matter what I do it always says; 
Will be downloaded but nothing happens.


pretty weird huh?


Leo Bado

El 06/08/2018 a las 14:31, Jonathan Cohn escribió:
Are you able to successfully download apps in the Mac App store? If I 
remember correctly, then the synthesizer downloads are just asking the 
App store to download appropriate materials.


Personally for me, I went into High Sierra Voices, selected and 
deselected a few check boxes items that were newly selected said 
downloading 0% and didn’t not change. I then close the voice selector 
read a few e-mails and then returned to VoiceOver Utility. At that 
point I was able to use the newly selected voices.


I don’t believe there is a standard library CLI  for managing voices 
much like the diskutil can manage disk drive administration, and in 
any case, the underlying services would still need to be the same.


Take care,

Jonathan
On Aug 6, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Leo Bado > wrote:


you are right, I had tryed many things and nothing.

I wonder is may be a terminal command could help...


Leo Bado
El 06/08/2018 a las 3:56, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries escribió:
Hi. Closing the Voiceover utility or turning it off makes no 
difference. These voices aren't just used for Voiceover, and 
therefore if the voice doesn't download, they won't work system wide 
either. I'm using the Mojave developer beta, so I can't say if its 
an issue with the OS itself. Just keep trying to download the voice. 
Good luck.


Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 

On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:06 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


And also, I always off-load and restart Voiceover with command+f5.
On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:


I believe the voices don't actually download until you close the 
VoiceOver Window to select which voices you want. I generally 
close all the VoiceOver windows after I have selected a voice and 
then wait a few minutes before checking the status.


.
Bestof luk!,

Jonathan Cohn



On Aug 4, 2018, at 5:40 AM, Leo Bado > wrote:


no, My mac is connected to internet. I have a good connection but 
for some reason I just cann't download this voice.



Leo Bado
El 02/08/2018 a las 9:54, Pavel Yefetov escribió:

you can connect mac to internet and,trai agaien

среда, 1 августа 2018 г., 2:52:15 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado 
написал:


hi,

I want to download american english Susan voice, but no
matter if I
tryed it from voice of the system or voice over utilities it
never
works.  When The voice is checked and VO reads, Susan will be
downloaded, I press ok but nothing happens.

This problem only is hapenning with this specific voice.

What can I do?



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viphone list?

[The wolf]

can I get the viphone list subscription info please?

thanks

Hank


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Re: A problem downloading a voice.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Are you able to successfully download apps in the Mac App store? If I remember 
correctly, then the synthesizer downloads are just asking the App store to 
download appropriate materials.

Personally for me, I went into High Sierra Voices, selected and deselected a 
few check boxes items that were newly selected said downloading 0% and didn’t 
not change. I then close the voice selector read a few e-mails and then 
returned to VoiceOver Utility. At that point I was able to use the newly 
selected voices.

I don’t believe there is a standard library CLI  for managing voices much like 
the diskutil can manage disk drive administration, and in any case, the 
underlying services would still need to be the same.

Take care,

Jonathan 
 
> On Aug 6, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> you are right, I had tryed many things and nothing.
> 
> I wonder is may be a terminal command could help...
> 
> 
> Leo Bado
> El 06/08/2018 a las 3:56, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries escribió:
>> Hi. Closing the Voiceover utility or turning it off makes no difference. 
>> These voices aren't just used for Voiceover, and therefore if the voice 
>> doesn't download, they won't work system wide either. I'm using the Mojave 
>> developer beta, so I can't say if its an issue with the OS itself. Just keep 
>> trying to download the voice. Good luck.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>> 
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:06 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And also, I always off-load and restart Voiceover with command+f5.
 On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>> > wrote:
 
 I believe the voices don't actually download until you close the VoiceOver 
 Window to select which voices you want. I generally close all the 
 VoiceOver windows after I have selected a voice and then wait a few 
 minutes before checking the status.
 
 .
Bestof luk!,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Aug 4, 2018, at 5:40 AM, Leo Bado  > wrote:
> 
> no, My mac is connected to internet.  I have a good connection but for 
> some reason I just cann't download this voice.
> 
> 
> Leo Bado
> El 02/08/2018 a las 9:54, Pavel Yefetov escribió:
>> you can connect mac to internet and,trai agaien 
>> 
>> среда, 1 августа 2018 г., 2:52:15 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado написал:
>> hi, 
>> 
>> I want to download american english Susan voice, but no matter if I 
>> tryed it from voice of the system or voice over utilities it never 
>> works.  When The voice is checked and VO reads, Susan will be 
>> downloaded, I   press ok but nothing happens. 
>> 
>> This problem only is hapenning with this specific voice. 
>> 
>> What can I do? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

[lenron brown]

Believe me I probably will at some point. If it wasn't for me kind of
wanting to try the apple watch I would be gone already.

On 8/6/18, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> I'm saying that if Samsung can, then Apple definitely can.
>
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified
>
>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:37 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>>   I am saying that there are always some people who simply cannot or do
>> not appreciate what they have and make the best use of it. If Samsung is
>> better. jump the fence.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>
>>> On 8/6/2018 12:09 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>>> ha so are you trying to say apple couldn't do what we are saying they
>>> can. All the money you spend on the IPhone 10 and you mean to tell me
>>> they shouldn't have ship it with airpods hahahaha.
 On 8/6/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
 Any of you sitting on Apple's board? Why not? This is like those
 sidewalk supervisors who always know more than the construction folks
 building high rises. (smiles)

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 Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 8/6/2018 5:32 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Well, Samsung did it, and Apple already uses Atmos in the new Apple TV.
> If
> Samsung can do it, Apple could do it better… if they wanted.
>
>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.
>>
>> As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new
>> headphone
>> development
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 1:44 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack
>> dongles
>>
>> Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone,
>> then.
>> Also, I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done,
>> to
>> really increase audio quality.
>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>>>
>>> That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung
>>> devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water
>>> resistant. lol
>>>
>>> On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>> 
>>> wrote:
This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a
 couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should
 fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water
 resistant.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
 true?

> On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:
> This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one
> of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not
> completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part
> this
> phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something
> I
> use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on
> airpods.
>
>> On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
>> Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and
>> the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with
>> the
>> smart phone.
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.
>>>
>>> Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  On Behalf Of dan d.
>>> Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2018 6:52 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; only-apple-...@groups.io;
>>> applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack
>>> dongles
>>>
>>>
>>> https://mashable.com/2018/08/04/apple-free-dongle-rumors/
>>>
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Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

I'm saying that if Samsung can, then Apple definitely can. 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified 

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:37 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I am saying that there are always some people who simply cannot or do not 
> appreciate what they have and make the best use of it. If Samsung is better. 
> jump the fence.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 8/6/2018 12:09 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>> ha so are you trying to say apple couldn't do what we are saying they
>> can. All the money you spend on the IPhone 10 and you mean to tell me
>> they shouldn't have ship it with airpods hahahaha.
>>> On 8/6/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
>>> wrote:
>>> Any of you sitting on Apple's board? Why not? This is like those
>>> sidewalk supervisors who always know more than the construction folks
>>> building high rises. (smiles)
>>> 
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
 On 8/6/2018 5:32 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Well, Samsung did it, and Apple already uses Atmos in the new Apple TV. If
 Samsung can do it, Apple could do it better… if they wanted.
 
> On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.
> 
> As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new headphone
> development
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
> 
> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 1:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack
> dongles
> 
> Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone, then.
> Also, I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done, to
> really increase audio quality.
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung
>> devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water
>> resistant. lol
>> 
>> On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> wrote:
>>>This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a
>>> couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should
>>> fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water
>>> resistant.
>>> 
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
>>> true?
>>> 
 On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:
 This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one
 of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not
 completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part this
 phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something I
 use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on
 airpods.
 
> On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and
> the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the
> smart phone.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.
>> 
>> Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  On Behalf Of dan d.
>> Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2018 6:52 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; only-apple-...@groups.io;
>> applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack
>> dongles
>> 
>> 
>> https://mashable.com/2018/08/04/apple-free-dongle-rumors/
>> 
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Re: A problem downloading a voice.

[Leo Bado]

you are right, I had tryed many things and nothing.

I wonder is may be a terminal command could help...


Leo Bado

El 06/08/2018 a las 3:56, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries escribió:
Hi. Closing the Voiceover utility or turning it off makes no 
difference. These voices aren't just used for Voiceover, and therefore 
if the voice doesn't download, they won't work system wide either. I'm 
using the Mojave developer beta, so I can't say if its an issue with 
the OS itself. Just keep trying to download the voice. Good luck.


Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 

On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:06 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


And also, I always off-load and restart Voiceover with command+f5.
On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:


I believe the voices don't actually download until you close the 
VoiceOver Window to select which voices you want. I generally close 
all the VoiceOver windows after I have selected a voice and then 
wait a few minutes before checking the status.


.
Bestof luk!,

Jonathan Cohn



On Aug 4, 2018, at 5:40 AM, Leo Bado > wrote:


no, My mac is connected to internet.  I have a good connection but 
for some reason I just cann't download this voice.



Leo Bado
El 02/08/2018 a las 9:54, Pavel Yefetov escribió:

you can connect mac to internet and,trai agaien

среда, 1 августа 2018 г., 2:52:15 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado 
написал:


hi,

I want to download american english Susan voice, but no matter
if I
tryed it from voice of the system or voice over utilities it
never
works.  When The voice is checked and VO reads, Susan will be
downloaded, I   press ok but nothing happens.

This problem only is hapenning with this specific voice.

What can I do?



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Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I am saying that there are always some people who simply cannot or 
do not appreciate what they have and make the best use of it. If Samsung 
is better. jump the fence.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 8/6/2018 12:09 PM, lenron brown wrote:

ha so are you trying to say apple couldn't do what we are saying they
can. All the money you spend on the IPhone 10 and you mean to tell me
they shouldn't have ship it with airpods hahahaha.

On 8/6/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:

 Any of you sitting on Apple's board? Why not? This is like those
sidewalk supervisors who always know more than the construction folks
building high rises. (smiles)

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On 8/6/2018 5:32 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Well, Samsung did it, and Apple already uses Atmos in the new Apple TV. If
Samsung can do it, Apple could do it better… if they wanted.


On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.

As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new headphone
development
-Original Message-
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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dongles

Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone, then.
Also, I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done, to
really increase audio quality.


On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:

That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung
devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water
resistant. lol

On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
wrote:

This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a
couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should
fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water
resistant.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?

On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:

This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one
of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not
completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part this
phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something I
use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on
airpods.

On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:

Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and
the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the
smart phone.



On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty 
wrote:

Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.

Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry



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Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

[lenron brown]

ha so are you trying to say apple couldn't do what we are saying they
can. All the money you spend on the IPhone 10 and you mean to tell me
they shouldn't have ship it with airpods hahahaha.

On 8/6/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
> Any of you sitting on Apple's board? Why not? This is like those
> sidewalk supervisors who always know more than the construction folks
> building high rises. (smiles)
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 8/6/2018 5:32 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Well, Samsung did it, and Apple already uses Atmos in the new Apple TV. If
>> Samsung can do it, Apple could do it better… if they wanted.
>>
>>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.
>>>
>>> As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new headphone
>>> development
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 1:44 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack
>>> dongles
>>>
>>> Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone, then.
>>> Also, I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done, to
>>> really increase audio quality.
>>>
 On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:

 That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung
 devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water
 resistant. lol

 On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
>This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a
> couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should
> fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water
> resistant.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
> true?
>
> On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:
>> This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one
>> of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not
>> completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part this
>> phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something I
>> use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on
>> airpods.
>>
>> On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
>>> Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and
>>> the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the
>>> smart phone.
>>>
>>>
 On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty 
 wrote:

 Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.

 Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry



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Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Any of you sitting on Apple's board? Why not? This is like those 
sidewalk supervisors who always know more than the construction folks 
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On 8/6/2018 5:32 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Well, Samsung did it, and Apple already uses Atmos in the new Apple TV. If 
Samsung can do it, Apple could do it better… if they wanted.


On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.

As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new headphone 
development
-Original Message-
From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 1:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone, then. Also, 
I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done, to really 
increase audio quality.


On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:

That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung
devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water
resistant. lol

On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:

   This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a
couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should
fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water resistant.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?

On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:

This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one
of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not
completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part this
phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something I
use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on
airpods.

On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:

Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and
the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the
smart phone.



On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.

Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry



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Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

Well, Samsung did it, and Apple already uses Atmos in the new Apple TV. If 
Samsung can do it, Apple could do it better… if they wanted.

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.
> 
> As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new headphone 
> development 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 1:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles
> 
> Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone, then. 
> Also, I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done, to really 
> increase audio quality.
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung 
>> devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water 
>> resistant. lol
>> 
>> On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
>>>   This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a 
>>> couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should 
>>> fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water resistant.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:
 This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one 
 of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not 
 completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part this 
 phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something I 
 use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on 
 airpods.
 
 On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and 
> the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the 
> smart phone.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.
>> 
>> Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>>  On Behalf Of dan d.
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>> dongles
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Re: A problem downloading a voice.

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Hi. Closing the Voiceover utility or turning it off makes no difference. These 
voices aren't just used for Voiceover, and therefore if the voice doesn't 
download, they won't work system wide either. I'm using the Mojave developer 
beta, so I can't say if its an issue with the OS itself. Just keep trying to 
download the voice. Good luck.

Regards,
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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:06 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> And also, I always off-load and restart Voiceover with command+f5.
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> I believe the voices don't actually download until you close the VoiceOver 
>> Window to select which voices you want. I generally close all the VoiceOver 
>> windows after I have selected a voice and then wait a few minutes before 
>> checking the status.
>> 
>> .
>>  Bestof luk!,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2018, at 5:40 AM, Leo Bado >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> no, My mac is connected to internet.  I have a good connection but for some 
>>> reason I just cann't download this voice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Leo Bado
>>> El 02/08/2018 a las 9:54, Pavel Yefetov escribió:
 you can connect mac to internet and,trai agaien 
 
 среда, 1 августа 2018 г., 2:52:15 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado написал:
 hi, 
 
 I want to download american english Susan voice, but no matter if I 
 tryed it from voice of the system or voice over utilities it never 
 works.  When The voice is checked and VO reads, Susan will be 
 downloaded, I   press ok but nothing happens. 
 
 This problem only is hapenning with this specific voice. 
 
 What can I do? 
 
 
 
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RE: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah  free apple earpods  can't see that happening.

 As for atmos yeah that would be nice but that would involve new headphone 
development 
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Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 1:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

Hopefully they give us EarPods, or cheaper, with the coming iPhone, then. Also, 
I hope they give us Dolby Atmos support, as Samsung has done, to really 
increase audio quality.

> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:41 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> That water resistant crap won't work on me. I have used Samsung 
> devices that still have the headphone jack and they are pretty water 
> resistant. lol
> 
> On 8/5/18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
>>This is such a non issue. I use both that adapter (I even got a 
>> couple extras, didn't break the bank) and Bluetooth.  If you should 
>> fall in the creek you will appreciate the iPhone being more water resistant.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>> On 8/5/2018 7:12 AM, lenron brown wrote:
>>> This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one 
>>> of them in the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not 
>>> completely givin up on apple but to be honest for the most part this 
>>> phone works fine. I miss the headphone jack because it's something I 
>>> use with my other devices. No I don't wish to spend over 150 on 
>>> airpods.
>>> 
>>> On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
 Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and 
 the connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the 
 smart phone.
 
 
> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.
> 
> Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry
> 
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> dongles
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> https://mashable.com/2018/08/04/apple-free-dongle-rumors/
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RE: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

[Simon Fogarty]

But they have to cut costs somewhere,
Hell guys and girls apple aren't doing very well in the stock market these days,
  They need to make more money!

A trillion dollars doesn't go far 

I'm kind of thinking that may be they should cut the price of their products by 
40% and they'd make a bigger killing buy selling even more products.

And Steve Jobbs should be the next president!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 2:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple is reportedly doing away with free headphone jack dongles

This is so annoying like they were costing them so much to put one of them in 
the box. I have one from my IPhone 7plus. I have not completely givin up on 
apple but to be honest for the most part this phone works fine. I miss the 
headphone jack because it's something I use with my other devices. No I don't 
wish to spend over 150 on airpods.

On 8/5/18, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> Maybe that’s because we’re relying more on bluetooth headsets and the 
> connectivity of listening devices for hearing impaired with the smart 
> phone.
>
>
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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>> Well that's going to make a lot of people unhappy.
>>
>> Glad I've got the earpods to not have to worry
>>
>>
>>
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>> dongles
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Re: A problem downloading a voice.

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

And also, I always off-load and restart Voiceover with command+f5.
> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I believe the voices don't actually download until you close the VoiceOver 
> Window to select which voices you want. I generally close all the VoiceOver 
> windows after I have selected a voice and then wait a few minutes before 
> checking the status.
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> .
>   Bestof luk!,
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> Jonathan Cohn
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> 
>> On Aug 4, 2018, at 5:40 AM, Leo Bado > > wrote:
>> 
>> no, My mac is connected to internet.  I have a good connection but for some 
>> reason I just cann't download this voice.
>> 
>> 
>> Leo Bado
>> El 02/08/2018 a las 9:54, Pavel Yefetov escribió:
>>> you can connect mac to internet and,trai agaien 
>>> 
>>> среда, 1 августа 2018 г., 2:52:15 UTC+3 пользователь Leo Bado написал:
>>> hi, 
>>> 
>>> I want to download american english Susan voice, but no matter if I 
>>> tryed it from voice of the system or voice over utilities it never 
>>> works.  When The voice is checked and VO reads, Susan will be 
>>> downloaded, I   press ok but nothing happens. 
>>> 
>>> This problem only is hapenning with this specific voice. 
>>> 
>>> What can I do? 
>>> 
>>> 
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