RE: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

[Debbie April Yuille]

Hello

I use an online converter. I use it on windows but I see no reason why it won't 
work on the Mac. The link is below. You paste in the URL of what you want to 
convert then you select the format you want, there are also customisation 
options. You then wait for it to be converted, then there is an option to 
download it.
http://convert2mp3.net/en/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTi_0sIKCVxo

HTH
Debbie

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 8:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

Hey all, 
Usually when I need some audio from Youtube, I have no problem using Loopback 
to record from Safari into Garage Band. Now, though, I'm working on a radio 
demo and I need to download songs, and I figure it will take forever to record 
each individual song only for me to end up using a 3-second clip. 
So, can anyone recommend a good way to download Youtube videos? I used to use 
anything2mp3.com but that doesn't work for me anymore. 

IF it supports batch conversion and SoundCloud URL's, that's a huge plus.



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VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

Hi,

These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other resource, 
I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare Fusion to run on a 
MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch the program and it opens 
but then stops responding. Eventually I force quit the program.

Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? I’ve used 
VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.

The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.

Thank you,

Kelly

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Re: Clearing notifications from multiple devices at the same time

[Jonathan Cohn]

One other case is the reminders app if you snooze or mark complete a reminder 
it gets removed from notifications on other systems. I wonder about Facebook, 
since it has a notification on the web that gets zero'd when I look at my 
facebook notifications on the phone. So, I believe that any app can clear its 
notification.  
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Nov 27, 2018, at 3:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure that can be done.  Notifications tend to be device specific.  
> That is, you can have different notifications and notification styles on each 
> of your devices.  I realize that the Messages app does seem to handle things 
> in the way you're hoping, but that's the only app I can think of that works 
> in that manner.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 27, 2018, at 12:50, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> I wonder if there is a setting somewhere that I am missing which would enable 
> me to clear a notification from one device, and having done so, not see that 
> notification on any other devices. It’s kind of annoying to have to make 
> duplicate notification clear out. And since everything syncs in the cloud, 
> I’m wondering why this is not possible. So I hope I’m just missing a Settings 
> somewhere.
> 
> 
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Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
What did you pay for that one?
I don’t think this can be connected right away to my Heat pump.
/A

> 27 nov. 2018 kl. 11:28 skrev Matthew Horspool :
> 
> Hi,
> For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
> because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
> use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
> The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart 
> radiator valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app 
> and reduces the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and 
> further away from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually 
> as you return, so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the 
> heating will switch on long before you arrive home.
> Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
> the house.
> The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
> of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, 
> instead of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be 
> warm by 7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 
> 6:00 AM, but on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
> Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
> just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not 
> sure how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I 
> couldn't recommend it highly enough.
> Matthew
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] 
> Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?
>  
> Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of 
> these interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to 
> have a thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the 
> Ecobee3.
> Donna
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Donna,
>  
> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home. 
>  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>  
> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>  
> temperature,
> humidity,
> motion,
> sound and,
> light.
>  
> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
> monitor through the iHome Control app.
>  
> More information at:
>  
> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>  
> 
>  
> I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all 
> of them accessible.
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they 
> all controllable by Siri?
> 
> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also 
> have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I 
> have an August Smart Lock.
> 
> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
> 
> Tia,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  Wondering 
> what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit that you 
> particularly like?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

[Jeff Berwick]

I use youtube-dl.  It is run in Terminal.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Nov 27, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, 
> Usually when I need some audio from Youtube, I have no problem using Loopback 
> to record from Safari into Garage Band. Now, though, I'm working on a radio 
> demo and I need to download songs, and I figure it will take forever to 
> record each individual song only for me to end up using a 3-second clip. 
> So, can anyone recommend a good way to download Youtube videos? I used to use 
> anything2mp3.com but that doesn't work for me anymore. 
> 
> IF it supports batch conversion and SoundCloud URL's, that's a huge plus.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Changing the Siri voice on my stereo pairedHomePods

[Mary Otten]

Sent from my iPhone I got the HomePod from Best Buy, and I have to say I am 
very impressed with the sound of a pair of them for $500. They are very close 
to the sound of speakers I have that I paid a lot more for several years ago, 
which is what I was hoping. I first set up one HomePod, and I did see that 
there was the availability for changing the Siri voice, as well as the voice 
over speed. Now that I have a pair, I don’t see that anymore. You’re supposed 
to do 3D Touch or long press on the HomePod in your Home app. Then you’re 
supposed to go down to the bottom and see details. And when you’re in there, 
you’re supposed to see the ability to change the Siri voice. The problem is 
that now but it’s a pear, I don’t get any ability to long press and hold and 
get any sort of screen with details. I wonder if you can only change the Siri 
voice when the pods are not paired. That seems strange.
Mary

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Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

[Des Delgadillo]

Hey all, 
Usually when I need some audio from Youtube, I have no problem using Loopback 
to record from Safari into Garage Band. Now, though, I'm working on a radio 
demo and I need to download songs, and I figure it will take forever to record 
each individual song only for me to end up using a 3-second clip. 
So, can anyone recommend a good way to download Youtube videos? I used to use 
anything2mp3.com but that doesn't work for me anymore. 

IF it supports batch conversion and SoundCloud URL's, that's a huge plus.



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Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!, iMore

[M. Taylor]

Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!
By Rene Ritchie, 24 Nov 2018
Tap. Shake. Press. Whether you're using an iPhone on the go or an iPad Pro to 
get your very real work… or play… done, the more efficient you can be, the 
better. Including typing. Especially typing. 
Following the launch of the latest iPad Pro, even basic typing tricks like 
trackpad mode and cursor movement spread through social with viral shock and 
delight. Years old, many people still simply didn't know.
Well, let's fix that now.
I usually try to do these things in order, but this one got so much attention 
lately I'm going to front load so you get it first. If you're using the virtual 
keyboard you can quickly switch it to a virtual trackpad, which makes precisely 
placing the cursor for precision edits much, much easier.
1.  Touch and hold the Space Bar. 
2.  Swipe your finger over the trackpad to move the cursor.
On a 3D Touch iPhone, you can also press firmly to switch to trackpad mode, and 
press again to switch between moving the cursor and text selection.
On an iPad, you can just use two fingers directly on the text to move the 
cursor, and double tap to switch to text selection.
It's so good it kinda makes you wish external keyboards had a way to support 
it. And on more than just 

There are a lot of settings you can toggle for the keyboard, including 
auto-caps, auto-corrections, spell-check, caps lock, predictions, and more.
1.  Launch Settings.
2.  Tap on General.
3.  Tap on Keyboard.
4.  Toggle until you're happy.
For most people, most of the time, the defaults are not only fine. But, if 
they're not for you, at least not right now, fix them up just the way you like 
them before we go on.
Speed caps (and numbers and symbols)

If you only want to enter one number or symbol, don't tap Number or Symbol 
button — there's a faster way!
1.  Touch the number or symbol button and keep your finger on it.
2.  Slide your finger up to the number or symbol you want to enter.
3.  Let go!
Once you're done, the keyboard will instantly switch back to text more. The 
same works for shift when you want to enter uppercase letters!
CAPS LOCK

When you want to SHOUT AT SOMEONE WHO IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET you don't need 
to hit the Shift button for each letter.
1.  Tap the shift quick twice in a row.
2.  Type your TEXT.
3.  Tap shift again to go back to lower case. 
YOU'RE WELCOME.
Special characters

Typing the letter 'e' is easy as tapping it. Typing 'èéêëēėę' is almost as easy.
1.  Touch and hold down on the letter to get a popup with alternate 
characters.
2.  Slide over to the alternate character you want enter.
3.  Let go.
On 3D Touch iPhones, you even get this really cool Taptic feedback for each 
character… which kinda feels like it should be an option, like keyboard sound, 
for every key by now.
Keyboard shortcuts
If you have an external keyboard connected to your iPad, you get all sorts of 
useful keyboard shortcuts along with it.
That includes classics like command C command C to copy and Command V to paste, 
even command Tab to switch between recent apps, and command space for 
Spotlight. But you also get some special ones, like command H to return to the 
Home screen.
Just hold down the command key to bring up a list of useful commands for any 
app, or area of the system, you're in.
Shake to undo (iPhone only)

If you type some text, delete some text, or even paste some text and later 
regret, you can undo it.
1.  Shake your iPhone.
2.  Tap Undo (or Redo).
Yeah… it's… weird. But it works. What works even better is a dedicated Undo 
key, which only the Plus size — but strangely not the Max size — iPhones have 
and only in landscape.
It'd be great to see that everywhere.
One handed mode
If you're a walk and typer with your iPhone, coffee in one hand, texting in the 
other, or if you just prefer typing one handed, you can offset the keyboard 
right or left to make it easier.
1.  Tap and hold the Globe button.
2.  Tap the left or right biased keyboard button.
Type away, and when and if you want to go back, just hit the big arrow on the 
other side.
Split Keyboard
On smaller iPads, basically 10.5 and under, you can undock and move the 
keyboard, and split it left and right for easier thumb typing.
1.  Touch and hold the keyboard button, bottom right.
2.  Tap Undock to release or Split to separate. 
You can redock and merge at any point by doing the same thing. And, yeah, Apple 
seems to think the new 11-inch and all 12.9 inch iPads are too big for this 
feature, but almost anyone who knows about it and tries it just thinks it's 
broken and that might not be the better solution.
Dictation

As improved as the iPhone and iPad keyboards are, sometimes it's still easier 
to talk than type. Dictation has gotten better over the years, including 
streaming transcriptions, and offline speech-to-text. Just…
1.  Tap the mic button
2.  

How to quickly connect AirPods to Apple TV, Cult of Mac

[M. Taylor]

How to use AirPods with Apple TV
By Charlie Sorrel, 1:00 pm, November 26, 2018

You kids don't know how good you have it. 
Are you a late-night movie watcher with sensitive neighbors? Do you hate
watching your Apple TV with the volume set too low? Then you might love
today's tip. Did you know that you can use your AirPods with your Apple TV?
Sure you did. But did you also know that you don't need to dig around in
your Apple TV's menus to hook them up? There's a Siri Remote shortcut that
makes switching ultra-convenient.
How to quick switch audio outputs on Apple TV
 Press and hold, and you're in.
Here's the tip, by way of Wolfboyz on Reddit: Apple TV has a shortcut to
switch audio output devices. Just press and hold the Play/Pause button on
the Apple TV remote when viewing the Home Screen, and you'll see a panel
listing all available AirPlay speakers. Even though AirPods use Bluetooth
and not Wi-Fi, they still show up here thanks to the magic of Apple's
integration.
Use Siri
Another way to quickly switch audio outputs is to use Siri. Invoke Siri and
say "Audio settings." This will open up the Audio Output screen, and you can
use the remote to quickly pick your output. This version only appears to
open up your most-recently-used audio settings panel, so you may find
yourself deep in the Settings app, instead of on the Audio Output panel. But
if you recently switched speaker/headphone outputs, then this is almost as
quick.
AirPods and HomePod
These tricks work thanks to the fact that AirPods are tied to your Apple ID,
so if you're signed in on an iPhone, iPad, or Apple TV, they're already
paired.
And if you're using a HomePod, you can use this same trick to pop up the
audio output settings, and choose the HomePod instead, just like you can
from an iPhone or iPad.
It's a shame that Apple doesn't make these great tricks and shortcuts more
obvious. Then again, I guess it's my job to dig them up and pass them on.

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Re: Clearing notifications from multiple devices at the same time

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I'm not sure that can be done.  Notifications tend to be device specific.  That 
is, you can have different notifications and notification styles on each of 
your devices.  I realize that the Messages app does seem to handle things in 
the way you're hoping, but that's the only app I can think of that works in 
that manner.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 27, 2018, at 12:50, Mary Otten  wrote:

I wonder if there is a setting somewhere that I am missing which would enable 
me to clear a notification from one device, and having done so, not see that 
notification on any other devices. It’s kind of annoying to have to make 
duplicate notification clear out. And since everything syncs in the cloud, I’m 
wondering why this is not possible. So I hope I’m just missing a Settings 
somewhere.


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Clearing notifications from multiple devices at the same time

[Mary Otten]

I wonder if there is a setting somewhere that I am missing which would enable 
me to clear a notification from one device, and having done so, not see that 
notification on any other devices. It’s kind of annoying to have to make 
duplicate notification clear out. And since everything syncs in the cloud, I’m 
wondering why this is not possible. So I hope I’m just missing a Settings 
somewhere.


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Re: Selecting photos to add to an album?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I find it much easier to do on iOS.  The iOS device does a better job of 
labeling the photo and seems easier to work in.  I have over 58,000 photos in 
my library, so I like it to be easy to work in.  The Mac does process things 
much quicker and some aspects like importing large quantities of photos from 
DSLR cameras is more convenient on the Mac.  All that being said, to add photos 
to an album in iOS, do the following:

• open the Photos app
• select Albums from the tabs across the bottom.
• if you need to create an album, double-tap the Add button at the top of the 
screen.
• give it an appropriate name.
• open the All Photos album, then double-tap the Select b button.
• double-tap on each photo you wish in the album.  As you do this, VO will 
announce that such-in-such photo is selected.
• once you have the photos you want selected, move your finger down to the 
bottom of the screen and double-tap the Add To button.
• double-tap the album name you wish these photos added to and you're done.

A few things to note.  When photos are placed in an album, they still remain in 
the All Photos album.  It's just a database entry that lets you access the 
photo from multiple albums.  Also, there is only one copy of the photo in your 
library, it's simply referenced in multiple locations.  I've also found it 
beneficial to add in smaller sets.  If I accidentally do something when 
selecting hundreds of photos, it makes me want to curse.  So, do 15 or 20, add 
them to the album then do the next group and add them to the album.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 26, 2018, at 20:02, Chris Moore  wrote:

I could use instructions for either ios or mac, but I’ll probably be doing it 
onthe mac.
Chris

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 11:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Mac or iOS?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 19:11, Chris Moore  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I need to select some photos to add to an album.  Is there a way to do this 
> with VO?
> 
> Chris
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Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That really does sound cool.  Though I have to say you couldn't pay me to trade 
in forced air for radiator heat.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:29 AM, Matthew Horspool  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> You're right, a lot of those features are becoming more common now, but I 
> haven't found another system that has all of them all in one place, 
> especially the smart TRVs.
> The real gem is that the TRVs can talk to each other and the main thermostat. 
> So say your heating is set to 20°C and every room in your house is at 20°C or 
> above, except your living room which is at 18°C. The TRV in the living room 
> will detect that the living room is too cold and send a command to override 
> the main thermostat and switch it on so that the living room can get some 
> heat. At the same time, it will also send a command to all the other TRVs to 
> close up, so only the living room radiator actually gets warm. Works like a 
> charm and makes my house feel so much more comfortable! Once the living room 
> is up to temperature it will cancel the thermostat override, so the heating 
> will switch off again.
> As for saving more by using manual mode, I'm of the opinion that that's a 
> false economy in so many ways, but this is the good thing about having 
> personal choice.
> Matthew
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of John JD Denning
> Sent: 27 November 2018 12:20
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?
>  
> I believe those features are pretty common now. The Nast has always done all 
> of that. No I never use the automatic modes. I prefer controlling that as I 
> need it. I get more savings that way. I guess I’m just a cheapskate, and a 
> control freak. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 27, 2018, at 05:28, Matthew Horspool  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
> because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
> use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
> The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart 
> radiator valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app 
> and reduces the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and 
> further away from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually 
> as you return, so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the 
> heating will switch on long before you arrive home.
> Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
> the house.
> The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
> of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, 
> instead of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be 
> warm by 7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 
> 6:00 AM, but on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
> Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
> just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not 
> sure how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I 
> couldn't recommend it highly enough.
> Matthew
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] 
> Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?
>  
> Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of 
> these interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to 
> have a thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the 
> Ecobee3.
> Donna
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Donna,
>  
> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home. 
>  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>  
> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>  
> temperature,
> humidity,
> motion,
> sound and,
> light.
>  
> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
> monitor through the iHome Control app.
>  
> More information at:
>  
> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>  
> 

Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Well, then we're two of a kind.  I also prefer controlling the nest myself.  I 
did try setting a schedule for when the heat would go on and off, but it wasn't 
very accessible at the time.

BTW, got the shortcut/Google Assistant setup working.  Thanks again for 
pointing it out.  I never would have thought to use Siri to run Google 
Assistant.  I kind of like it - you know controlling a Google product with an 
Apple product.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:19 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> I believe those features are pretty common now. The Nast has always done all 
> of that. No I never use the automatic modes. I prefer controlling that as I 
> need it. I get more savings that way. I guess I’m just a cheapskate, and a 
> control freak. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 27, 2018, at 05:28, Matthew Horspool  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
>> because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have 
>> to use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
>> The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart 
>> radiator valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app 
>> and reduces the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further 
>> and further away from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature 
>> gradually as you return, so if your house is particularly cold and you're 
>> far away, the heating will switch on long before you arrive home.
>> Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
>> the house.
>> The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a 
>> model of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, 
>> instead of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to 
>> be warm by 7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up 
>> at 6:00 AM, but on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
>> Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
>> just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not 
>> sure how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I 
>> couldn't recommend it highly enough.
>> Matthew
>>  
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] 
>> Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?
>>  
>> Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of 
>> these interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to 
>> have a thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the 
>> Ecobee3.
>> Donna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Donna,
>>  
>> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google 
>> Home.  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>>  
>> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>>  
>> temperature,
>> humidity,
>> motion,
>> sound and,
>> light.
>>  
>> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you 
>> can monitor through the iHome Control app.
>>  
>> More information at:
>>  
>> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all 
>> of them accessible.
>>  
>> Jeff
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they 
>> all controllable by Siri?
>> 
>> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also 
>> have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I 
>> have an August Smart Lock.
>> 
>> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
>> 
>> Tia,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've become curious about 

Re: Team viewer or what can we use?

[Steve Matzura]

Someone once did a Messages screenshare with me and was able to hear my 
VoiceOver, although they didn't need to. I don't remember the steps to 
initiate this,but it  worked well and solved my immediate problem at the 
time.



On 11/27/2018 12:26 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi all. I find that when using FaceTime, nobody can hear my computer 
and I can't hear their's. Because of this, I recommend you use Skype 
if you need to hear the other computer. This is if both parties are 
using Facetime on Macs. However, if both of you use Facetime on your 
iPhones, you won't have this issue.


Regards,
Shawn,




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RE: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi John,
You're right, a lot of those features are becoming more common now, but I 
haven't found another system that has all of them all in one place, especially 
the smart TRVs.
The real gem is that the TRVs can talk to each other and the main thermostat. 
So say your heating is set to 20°C and every room in your house is at 20°C or 
above, except your living room which is at 18°C. The TRV in the living room 
will detect that the living room is too cold and send a command to override the 
main thermostat and switch it on so that the living room can get some heat. At 
the same time, it will also send a command to all the other TRVs to close up, 
so only the living room radiator actually gets warm. Works like a charm and 
makes my house feel so much more comfortable! Once the living room is up to 
temperature it will cancel the thermostat override, so the heating will switch 
off again.
As for saving more by using manual mode, I'm of the opinion that that's a false 
economy in so many ways, but this is the good thing about having personal 
choice.
Matthew

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of John JD Denning
Sent: 27 November 2018 12:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

I believe those features are pretty common now. The Nast has always done all of 
that. No I never use the automatic modes. I prefer controlling that as I need 
it. I get more savings that way. I guess I’m just a cheapskate, and a control 
freak. 
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2018, at 05:28, Matthew Horspool 
mailto:mhorsp...@live.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi,
For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart radiator 
valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app and reduces 
the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and further away 
from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually as you return, 
so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the heating will 
switch on long before you arrive home.
Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
the house.
The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, instead 
of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be warm by 
7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 6:00 AM, but 
on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not sure 
how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I couldn't 
recommend it highly enough.
Matthew

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of these 
interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to have a 
thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the Ecobee3.
Donna




On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home.  
I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.

The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:

temperature,
humidity,
motion,
sound and,
light.

Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
monitor through the iHome Control app.

More information at:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx

I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all of 
them accessible.

Jeff




On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they all 
controllable by Siri?

Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
Thanks,
Donna





On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[John JD Denning]

I believe those features are pretty common now. The Nast has always done all of 
that. No I never use the automatic modes. I prefer controlling that as I need 
it. I get more savings that way. I guess I’m just a cheapskate, and a control 
freak. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 05:28, Matthew Horspool  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
> because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
> use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
> The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart 
> radiator valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app 
> and reduces the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and 
> further away from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually 
> as you return, so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the 
> heating will switch on long before you arrive home.
> Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
> the house.
> The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
> of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, 
> instead of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be 
> warm by 7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 
> 6:00 AM, but on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
> Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
> just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not 
> sure how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I 
> couldn't recommend it highly enough.
> Matthew
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?
>  
> Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of 
> these interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to 
> have a thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the 
> Ecobee3.
> Donna
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>  
> Hi Donna,
>  
> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home. 
>  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>  
> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>  
> temperature,
> humidity,
> motion,
> sound and,
> light.
>  
> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
> monitor through the iHome Control app.
>  
> More information at:
>  
> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>  
> I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all 
> of them accessible.
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they 
> all controllable by Siri?
> 
> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also 
> have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I 
> have an August Smart Lock.
> 
> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
> 
> Tia,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  Wondering 
> what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit that you 
> particularly like?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
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RE: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi,
For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart radiator 
valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app and reduces 
the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and further away 
from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually as you return, 
so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the heating will 
switch on long before you arrive home.
Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
the house.
The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, instead 
of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be warm by 
7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 6:00 AM, but 
on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not sure 
how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I couldn't 
recommend it highly enough.
Matthew

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of these 
interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to have a 
thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the Ecobee3.
Donna



On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home.  
I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.

The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:

temperature,
humidity,
motion,
sound and,
light.

Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
monitor through the iHome Control app.

More information at:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx

I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all of 
them accessible.

Jeff



On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they all 
controllable by Siri?

Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
Thanks,
Donna




On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also have 
several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I have an 
August Smart Lock.

I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.

Tia,
Jeff



On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  Wondering 
what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit that you 
particularly like?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Commands

[Billy Inglis]

hi all, just joined this thread here, but i have the same issue with the 
microsoft universal bluetooth keyboard, anyone got a list of shortcut 
commands for this one?


On 26/11/2018 20:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
    This is crazy. I am almost certain I had tested this with QN on but 
maybw not. That is what makes this work. Oh well lesson learned. Try 
anything remotely possible.


    On the issue with adding contacts, I will try to duplicate this next 
time I get a caller who is not in my contacts.


    Now I can move forward. (smiles)

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    ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 11/26/2018 11:49 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

It sounds to me like the Logitech keyboard is still hanging on in some 
fashion, even though it is powered down.  I'm assuming that you've 
fully powered it down, not just put it to sleep.  Sorry, I don't have 
one of those units to know exactly how it is set up.  The 
VO-fn-up/down is noted in the Apple book for sure, but I not sure if 
the Option-up/down method is referenced in the book as well.  I'll 
have to take another look.


The book is free and easy to navigate through on an iOS device.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:19, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Tim,
   This has been an interesting experience. I had no trouble with the 
Apple keyboard but gave it to a friend. I got the Logitech because its 
multi device which works nicely.


   This morning I encountered a strange issue. I wanted to add a 
contact from Recents in the phone app. Even when the edit field was 
active, I could not enter characters with the onscreen keyboard. Both 
the Logitech and the braille display were turned off. Yet while at the 
store having my coffee, I had no trouble carrying out this task. Strange.


   Is the option up/down command in an Apple Book? I've seen many 
references to it in Google searches from 2017 back. Maybe I will get 
the user guide from Books.


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On 11/26/2018 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

hi,
Probably your most up-to-date resource would be the Apple Books 
version of iPhone or iPad User's Guide for iOS 12.1.  I don't have 
your model of keyboard, only an Apple wireless keyboard or the 
special keyboard thing on my iPad Pro.  For me, the FN-VO-up/down 
will open the Notification and Control Centres, as well as the 
Option-up/down while in the Status bar.  I do know that some third 
party keyboards don't sync as nice as others.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 26, 2018, at 08:56, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  Recently I got the Logitech K780 keyboard and have been playing 
with it on my iDevices.

  First, is there an up to date list of keyboard commands for iOS?
  Second, the commands for invoking the control center and 
notification center is option up and down respectively, after putting 
focus on the status bar. They do not work. The commands for the Apple 
wireless keyboard are fn-VO-up and down also do not work on the 
Logitech.
  Anyone seen this? All the other commands that I tried do work, The 
equivalent commands for a braille display work fine. Input please. 
Thanks.

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