Re: Here is a New Shortcut from Apple that Logs Your Water Intake

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I have downloaded the shortcut and have run it but when I try to log water I 
get the information that the health app needs to
Have access to the categories in health. Well I do this and it hasn’t made any 
difference. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Feb 2019, at 4:06 am, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Apple Support tweeted the following message and link, earlier today.
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> Enjoy,
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> Check out a shortcut that logs your water intake, and make sure you're
> getting enough:
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Cleaning your iPhone - Apple Support

[M. Taylor]

Cleaning your iPhone
Learn how to clean your iPhone.
iPhone 7 and later
Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes in contact with anything that
might cause stains or other damage-for example, dirt or sand, ink, makeup,
soap, detergent, acids or acidic foods, or lotions. Follow these guidelines:
.   Unplug all cables and turn off your iPhone.
.   Use a soft, slightly damp, lint-free cloth-for example, a lens
cloth.
.   Avoid getting moisture in openings.
.   Don't use cleaning products or compressed air.
Your iPhone has a fingerprint-resistant oleophobic-oil repellent-coating. On
iPhone 8 and later, the coating is on the front and back. This coating wears
over time with normal use. Cleaning products and abrasive materials will
further diminish the coating and might scratch your iPhone.
iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 5s
Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes into contact with contaminants
that might cause stains, such as ink, dyes, makeup, dirt, food, oils, and
lotions. To clean your iPhone, unplug all cables and turn it off. Use a
soft, slightly damp, lint-free cloth. Avoid getting moisture in openings.
Don't use window cleaners, household cleaners, compressed air, aerosol
sprays, solvents, ammonia, or abrasives to clean your iPhone. The front
glass surfaces have an oleophobic coating. To remove fingerprints, wipe
these surfaces with a soft, lint-free cloth. The ability of this coating to
repel oil will diminish over time with normal use, and rubbing the screen
with an abrasive material will further diminish its effect and might scratch
the glass.
To clean the Home button (allowing Touch ID to work optimally), wipe it with
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iPhone 5c
Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes into contact with contaminants
that might cause stains, such as ink, dyes, makeup, dirt, food, oils, and
lotions. To clean your iPhone, unplug all cables and turn it off. Use a
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Don't use window cleaners, household cleaners, compressed air, aerosol
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peroxide to clean your iPhone. The front glass surfaces have an oleophobic
coating. To remove fingerprints, wipe these surfaces with a soft, lint-free
cloth. The ability of this coating to repel oil will diminish over time with
normal use, and rubbing the screen with an abrasive material will further
diminish its effect and might scratch the glass.
To clean the dirt that might accumulate around the SIM tray opening, use a
soft lint-free cloth and place a very small amount of rubbing alcohol on it.
Very gently wipe the dirt away from the port opening and avoid getting any
of the moisture in the opening.
iPhone 5
Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes into contact with contaminants
that might cause stains, such as ink, dyes, makeup, dirt, food, oils, and
lotions. To clean your iPhone, unplug all cables and turn it off. Use a
soft, slightly damp, lint-free cloth. Avoid getting moisture in openings.
Don't use window cleaners, household cleaners, compressed air, aerosol
sprays, solvents, ammonia, abrasives, or cleaners containing hydrogen
peroxide to clean your iPhone. The front glass surfaces have an oleophobic
coating. To remove fingerprints, wipe these surfaces with a soft, lint-free
cloth. The ability of this coating to repel oil will diminish over time with
normal use, and rubbing the screen with an abrasive material will further
diminish its effect and might scratch the glass.
iPhone 4s and iPhone 4
Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes into contact with contaminants
that might cause stains, such as ink, dyes, makeup, dirt, food, oils, and
lotions. To clean your iPhone, unplug all cables and turn off your iPhone
(press and hold the Sleep/Wake button, and then drag the onscreen slider).
Use a soft, slightly damp, lint-free cloth. Avoid getting moisture in
openings. Don't use window cleaners, household cleaners, compressed air,
aerosol sprays, solvents, ammonia, abrasives, or cleaners containing
hydrogen peroxide to clean your iPhone. The front and back glass surfaces
have an oleophobic coating. To remove fingerprints, wipe these surfaces with
a soft, lint-free cloth. The ability of this coating to repel oil will
diminish over time with normal use, and rubbing the screen with an abrasive
material will further diminish its effect and might scratch the glass.
iPhone 3GS
Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes into contact with contaminants
that might cause stains, such as ink, dyes, makeup, dirt, food, oils, and
lotions. To clean your iPhone, unplug all cables and turn off your iPhone
(press and hold the Sleep/Wake button, and then drag the onscreen slider).
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openings. Don't use window cleaners, household cleaners, compressed air,
aerosol sprays, solvents, ammonia, abrasives, or cleaners containing
hydrogen 

Here is a New Shortcut from Apple that Logs Your Water Intake

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Apple Support tweeted the following message and link, earlier today.

Enjoy,

Mark

Check out a shortcut that logs your water intake, and make sure you're
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https://apple.co/2H380xu


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Re: Further to ripping CDs

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Tim and Chuck,
Thank you, yes I wouldn’t be surprised if the discs are dusty as they have been 
in storage for a while. I will keep a soft cloth handy for cleaning the CDs 
before I put them in the DVD drive. The drive should be clean as it is new.
My old windows computer died over two years ago and I’ve been living on my 
iPhone until I could save up for a Mac. 
Petrus

> On 27/02/2019, at 10:58 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> Yeah probably dust!
> They still make cleaning cd's  to clean the CD/DVD burner out there.
> Also the cd it self could have some "schmutz" on it which usually can be 
> cleaned.
> HTH
> Chuck
> 
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:42 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don’t think that it’s normal, but it’s not really uncommon. What is likely 
>> happening is that the CD is having a hiccup when it is reading the CD DB 
>> information at the header of the CD. By putting it in the next time, it must 
>> have got a better read.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again, 
>>> Sorry for bringing this subject up again. 
>>> I mentioned that iTunes doesn’t always recognise some of the CDs I have. 
>>> However I put a CD in the drive this morning and it told me that iTunes 
>>> didn’t recognise the CD, so I removed it from the drive and put it back in 
>>> again. Suddenly iTunes had no problems in finding the album. Is this normal?
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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RE: Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

[Kelly Ford]

Thank you.  Appreciate the pointers.

 

Kelly

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

 

Hi,

 

To accomplish this, when the FaceTime call connects, the Notification Centre 
opens a dialog with some items, including Mute, End, the time elapsed, and 
image as well as the caller name if available.  You'll need to navigate to 
either the image, the caller title, or the time elapsed items and VO-space on 
them.  Now, you can enter the digits using the numbers on your keyboard.  
There's not a field per se, just the tones will be accepted.

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher

(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:34, Kelly Ford mailto:ke...@kellford.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Can someone give me a pointer on how to dial digits after a call is connected 
if I’m using Facetime on the Mac?  Apple support indicates you should just be 
able to type the extra digits but that doesn’t seem to work.Do I need to get VO 
focus into a certain area?

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Further to ripping CDs

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Tim,
Yeah probably dust!
They still make cleaning cd's  to clean the CD/DVD burner out there.
Also the cd it self could have some "schmutz" on it which usually can be 
cleaned.
HTH
Chuck

On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:42 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don’t think that it’s normal, but it’s not really uncommon. What is likely 
> happening is that the CD is having a hiccup when it is reading the CD DB 
> information at the header of the CD. By putting it in the next time, it must 
> have got a better read.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again, 
>> Sorry for bringing this subject up again. 
>> I mentioned that iTunes doesn’t always recognise some of the CDs I have. 
>> However I put a CD in the drive this morning and it told me that iTunes 
>> didn’t recognise the CD, so I removed it from the drive and put it back in 
>> again. Suddenly iTunes had no problems in finding the album. Is this normal?
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Further to ripping CDs

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I don’t think that it’s normal, but it’s not really uncommon. What is likely 
happening is that the CD is having a hiccup when it is reading the CD DB 
information at the header of the CD. By putting it in the next time, it must 
have got a better read.

Later…


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Hi again, 
> Sorry for bringing this subject up again. 
> I mentioned that iTunes doesn’t always recognise some of the CDs I have. 
> However I put a CD in the drive this morning and it told me that iTunes 
> didn’t recognise the CD, so I removed it from the drive and put it back in 
> again. Suddenly iTunes had no problems in finding the album. Is this normal?
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Printer/Scanner

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

In my experience, Wi-Fi printers are not accessible for initial set up. 
Regarding Bluetooth printers, I have no real experience with them, although, 
you may have the same frustrations with them during set up as you would with a 
Wi-Fi printer.

Later… hi,

In my experience, Wi-Fi printers are not accessible for initial set up. 
Regarding Bluetooth printers, I have no real experience with them, although, 
you may have the same frustrations with them during set up as you would with a 
Wi-Fi printer.

Later…
G

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:27 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Ok. Forgot to ask earlier, how do you connect a printer to wifi? Is this an 
> accessible process? Also, should I consider a Bluetooth printer?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 2/26/2019 12:00 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Laser, Both color and monochrome.
>> Later…
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>>   Are these laser or ink jet? I will be browsing the models and see which 
>>> one is suitable for my needs. Monochrome would be fine.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
 On 2/25/2019 8:57 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 We use Lexmark at my place of work.  I have had no issues at all with 
 accessibility of the web interface.
 Later...
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 On Feb 25, 2019, at 20:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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   Would like recommendations for a printer/scanner that uses an accessible 
 web interface for both Windows and Mac.
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Re: Printer/Scanner

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   Ok. Forgot to ask earlier, how do you connect a printer to wifi? Is 
this an accessible process? Also, should I consider a Bluetooth printer?


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Hi,


Laser, Both color and monochrome.

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   Are these laser or ink jet? I will be browsing the models and see which one 
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We use Lexmark at my place of work.  I have had no issues at all with 
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Further to ripping CDs

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi again, 
Sorry for bringing this subject up again. 
I mentioned that iTunes doesn’t always recognise some of the CDs I have. 
However I put a CD in the drive this morning and it told me that iTunes didn’t 
recognise the CD, so I removed it from the drive and put it back in again. 
Suddenly iTunes had no problems in finding the album. Is this normal?
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Re: Printer/Scanner

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Hi,


Laser, Both color and monochrome.

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>> We use Lexmark at my place of work.  I have had no issues at all with 
>> accessibility of the web interface.
>> Later...
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Re: Printer/Scanner

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Janina,
   You need more Brothers? Heh. 10 years on an open box, not bad at 
all. You think new ones are just s good these days? A monochrome laser 
is 129 bucks. I cannot do impulse buying so will be looking into these.


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Yours truly is on her second Brother multi function device in the last
decade plus. Should my current printer/copier/scanner/fax die, I'm quite
certain I'll just get another Brother.

Fax? Who uses fax anymore!  Mine isn't hooked up, but the machine
does support fax. It's all the same technology after all.

PS: Mine is the model 9840DW. I got it from Newegg about 10 years ago as
an open box resale for $150. In the early days I had some issues with
Linux drivers, but no longer. I've never had issues on Macintosh or
Windows with this machine, and it works with my Android just as well.
It's a network printer, so I share it out on my network via my OpenWRT
router.

Best,

Janina

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Re: Printer/Scanner

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Tim,
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Hi,

We use Lexmark at my place of work.  I have had no issues at all with 
accessibility of the web interface.


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Re: Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

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Hi,

To accomplish this, when the FaceTime call connects, the Notification Centre 
opens a dialog with some items, including Mute, End, the time elapsed, and 
image as well as the caller name if available.  You'll need to navigate to 
either the image, the caller title, or the time elapsed items and VO-space on 
them.  Now, you can enter the digits using the numbers on your keyboard.  
There's not a field per se, just the tones will be accepted.

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Can someone give me a pointer on how to dial digits after a call is connected 
if I’m using Facetime on the Mac?  Apple support indicates you should just be 
able to type the extra digits but that doesn’t seem to work.Do I need to get VO 
focus into a certain area?
 
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Re: Documentation for the Apple Watcgh

[Mary Otten]

Hi Mike,
There is actually an inexpensive book available through national braille press 
that was written specifically with voiceover in mind. It was written by Anna 
Dresner, and I believe it is called you and your Apple Watch. You can get it as 
an e-book. I think it was something like $10. I could be wrong about that.
Mary


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Documentation for the Apple Watcgh

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Hi everybody,

I bought a Series 4 Apple Watch today and have it up and running.  I was 
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Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

 

Can someone give me a pointer on how to dial digits after a call is
connected if I'm using Facetime on the Mac?  Apple support indicates you
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work.Do I need to get VO focus into a certain area?

 

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Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The iMacs with an HD have a 5400 RPM HD which is rather frustrating to me.  You 
have all the power and RAM required to have a really quite amazing machine, but 
the 5400 RPM drive is like putting a 4 cylinder engine into a full size pickup. 
 Yes, services like iCloud syncing, DropBox and Google Drive that go out to 
sync data can slow things down between login and building of the Desktop.  
Unless you were experiencing problems prior to the upgrade, a clean install vs 
upgrade install really shouldn't be a factor.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 26, 2019, at 07:37, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
 
I have a 2013 iMac with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD and have auto login enabled 
and find that vo takes quite a bit of time to load.  I am wondering if you did 
a clean install or a in place upgrade.  This may have something to do with it.  
Also do you have certain apps such a drop box or online backup apps that load 
at start at login.  Just trying to have some idea as to what could be causing 
this.
 
Matthew
 
 
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password
 
Hi,
 
I'd say that it might be a combination of both.  The 4 GB is pretty much the 
minimum that Mojave can handle.  Combine that with a slower processor, and you 
will find things a little slower.  Also, if you've just done the upgrade, give 
your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it should start behaving 
better.  Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac is awake.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Greetings to the list.

After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to
macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load
after I type my Apple ID password.  About fifteen seconds elapse
between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the
"Welcome to OS 10" message.  With Yosemite, the time interval was
about four seconds.  Is this a known issue with later macOS versions,
or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine?

Thank you for all help.

Craig

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Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

My understanding is that if you're using an app that supports the function 
keys, such as an RDP app, then the Globe key does change the numbers to F keys. 
 Regular iOS apps do not support the F1-F12 functions, so that feature is 
deemed unnecessary for the most part.  Now, as media keys and such, they are 
handy for sure.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Feb 26, 2019, at 07:10, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Simon,

Hmm!  It never occurred to me that the number row on the Apple Keyboard may 
double as function keys.  If so, I have not yet discovered how to make this 
happen.  I tried pressing them in combination with the function key, located on 
the lower-left corner of the device but, as yet, no soap.  

I'll do some research on this.

Actually, the Smart keyboard is not that bad, in terms of size, look and feel.

I think I just need more time with it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

Hi Mark,

I thought the series1 of the smart keyboard did have function keys?

Or is it they double up as function keys.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2019 9:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

Oh yeah, this $150 Apple Smart Keyboard I purchase?  It does not have any 
function keys, either.  (Big Smile).

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

Yeah, I have to say one thing that makes me really happy about this setup is 
having a home key again, and having function keys.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:09 PM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> That smart keyboard for the 11 inch sucks also.  Has no function keys, 
> no escape key, and is over priced.  At least the Logitech model 
> provides edge to edge protection if you do drop it.  I had the 6th ten
> 2018 model, but sold it and got the iPad Pro 2018 model.  Waiting for 
> the keyboard made by bridge, it is currently on back order, it is 
> suppose to make your keyboard look like and MacBook Pro setup.  We 
> will see.  Right now I am substituting with the magic keyboard,
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:35 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Yes, I have found the same, with regard to swiping in order to find certain 
>> buttons.  
>> 
>> I am also using the scrub jester, a great deal.
>> 
>> I've heard wonderful things about that Logitek keyboard case.  So far, I'm 
>> not that impressed with the Apple Smart Keyboard.  It's thin but it's not 
>> very fast and it does not have an escape key.  Try as I may, I cannot 
>> determine the use of the function key on this keyboard.  
>> 
>> Tell me, do you find that, even with the keyboard connected, you must still 
>> continue to use the display to interact with the device?  Does your keyboard 
>> have an escape key?
>> 
>> If you really like the Logitek keyboard, let me know and perhaps I'll pick 
>> one up.  I'm almost certain they won't have any for 10.5 anywhere but either 
>> online or at Apple.  
>> 
>> Apparently, my poor little 10.5 is the proverbial black sheep of the iPad 
>> family, these days.  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:44 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
>> 
>> Hey again, Mark,
>> 
>> I'm having trouble getting used to navigating the screen, too.  At this 
>> point, I find I'm doing a lot more swiping around, which kind of negates the 
>> benefits of a touch screen.  But for example, it seems like the only way I 
>> can get out of a settings menu is to swipe all the way back through the 
>> options until I hear the back button spoken.  If anyone has pointers for 
>> navigating the larger screen, they would be appreciated.
>> 
>> As for holding the device, I bought a Logitech keyboard case with mine, so 
>> my plan is that often at least, I will just set it in my lap or on a 
>> surface, like I would a laptop.  I'm actually starting to wonder to what 
>> point this thing can become a laptop replacement.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna.
>>> 
>>> Wow!  Good for you.  Congratulations on your new iPad.
>>> 
>>> I purchased an iPad Pro 10.5 inch.
>>> 
>>> I purchased the Pro because I wanted faster speed, along with TouchID and 
>>> 

Re: Help! Installer is stuck.

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello, 
Are you trying to get to the recovery partition? If so, holding down command r 
while booting gets you there.
Aleeha 

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:56 AM, Stan ZA  wrote:
> 
> Hi One,
> I was updating some apps on my “MacBook PRO”,and it is now stuck, and I 
> cannot remember how to get to the “recovery Menu”, Please help.
> Stan ZA
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RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kliff,

Ah!  Thank you for explaining that key on the lower-left corner of the device.  
No wonder it did not convert the number row to function keys.

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of KliphnShari Miller
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 6:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

If you have the Smart Keyboard from apple that costs 192 bucks after tax, that 
button in the lower left corner is not a function key, it is the key to toggle 
between keyboards, like English French, and emoji.  That keyboard is not worth 
the money, yes it has smart connecter and you don’t need battery’s,s, but the 
function keys are a big part of things I do on a daily basis.


> On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:10 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> Hmm!  It never occurred to me that the number row on the Apple Keyboard may 
> double as function keys.  If so, I have not yet discovered how to make this 
> happen.  I tried pressing them in combination with the function key, located 
> on the lower-left corner of the device but, as yet, no soap.  
> 
> I'll do some research on this.
> 
> Actually, the Smart keyboard is not that bad, in terms of size, look and feel.
> 
> I think I just need more time with it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I thought the series1 of the smart keyboard did have function keys?
> 
> Or is it they double up as function keys.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 25 February 2019 9:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Oh yeah, this $150 Apple Smart Keyboard I purchase?  It does not have any 
> function keys, either.  (Big Smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 11:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Yeah, I have to say one thing that makes me really happy about this setup is 
> having a home key again, and having function keys.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:09 PM, KliphnShari Miller  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That smart keyboard for the 11 inch sucks also.  Has no function 
>> keys, no escape key, and is over priced.  At least the Logitech model 
>> provides edge to edge protection if you do drop it.  I had the 6th 
>> ten
>> 2018 model, but sold it and got the iPad Pro 2018 model.  Waiting for 
>> the keyboard made by bridge, it is currently on back order, it is 
>> suppose to make your keyboard look like and MacBook Pro setup.  We 
>> will see.  Right now I am substituting with the magic keyboard,
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:35 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have found the same, with regard to swiping in order to find certain 
>>> buttons.  
>>> 
>>> I am also using the scrub jester, a great deal.
>>> 
>>> I've heard wonderful things about that Logitek keyboard case.  So far, I'm 
>>> not that impressed with the Apple Smart Keyboard.  It's thin but it's not 
>>> very fast and it does not have an escape key.  Try as I may, I cannot 
>>> determine the use of the function key on this keyboard.  
>>> 
>>> Tell me, do you find that, even with the keyboard connected, you must still 
>>> continue to use the display to interact with the device?  Does your 
>>> keyboard have an escape key?
>>> 
>>> If you really like the Logitek keyboard, let me know and perhaps I'll pick 
>>> one up.  I'm almost certain they won't have any for 10.5 anywhere but 
>>> either online or at Apple.  
>>> 
>>> Apparently, my poor little 10.5 is the proverbial black sheep of the iPad 
>>> family, these days.  (smile).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:44 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
>>> 
>>> Hey again, Mark,
>>> 
>>> I'm having trouble getting used to navigating the screen, too.  At this 
>>> point, I find I'm doing a lot more swiping around, which kind of negates 
>>> the benefits of a touch screen.  But for example, it seems like the only 
>>> way I can get out of a settings menu is to swipe all the way back through 
>>> the options until I hear the back button spoken.  If anyone has pointers 
>>> for navigating the larger screen, they would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 

RE: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Hi,

 

I have a 2013 iMac with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD and have auto login enabled 
and find that vo takes quite a bit of time to load.  I am wondering if you did 
a clean install or a in place upgrade.  This may have something to do with it.  
Also do you have certain apps such a drop box or online backup apps that load 
at start at login.  Just trying to have some idea as to what could be causing 
this.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: macOS 10.14.3: VoiceOver Loading Slowly after Entering Password

 

Hi,

 

I'd say that it might be a combination of both.  The 4 GB is pretty much the 
minimum that Mojave can handle.  Combine that with a slower processor, and you 
will find things a little slower.  Also, if you've just done the upgrade, give 
your Mac about 24 hours or so to index everything and it should start behaving 
better.  Note, the indexing only happens when the Mac is awake.

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher

(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:06, Craig Werner mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Greetings to the list.

After a much overdo upgrade of my MacBook Air from OS X 10.10.5 to
macOS Mojave 10.14.3, VoiceOver takes quite a bit of time to load
after I type my Apple ID password.  About fifteen seconds elapse
between my entering the "login" command and VoiceOver's speaking the
"Welcome to OS 10" message.  With Yosemite, the time interval was
about four seconds.  Is this a known issue with later macOS versions,
or is it due to the 4GB storage capacity of my machine?

Thank you for all help.

Craig

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Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

[KliphnShari Miller]

If you have the Smart Keyboard from apple that costs 192 bucks after tax, that 
button in the lower left corner is not a function key, it is the key to toggle 
between keyboards, like English French, and emoji.  That keyboard is not worth 
the money, yes it has smart connecter and you don’t need battery’s,s, but the 
function keys are a big part of things I do on a daily basis.


> On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:10 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> Hmm!  It never occurred to me that the number row on the Apple Keyboard may 
> double as function keys.  If so, I have not yet discovered how to make this 
> happen.  I tried pressing them in combination with the function key, located 
> on the lower-left corner of the device but, as yet, no soap.  
> 
> I'll do some research on this.
> 
> Actually, the Smart keyboard is not that bad, in terms of size, look and feel.
> 
> I think I just need more time with it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I thought the series1 of the smart keyboard did have function keys?
> 
> Or is it they double up as function keys.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 25 February 2019 9:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Oh yeah, this $150 Apple Smart Keyboard I purchase?  It does not have any 
> function keys, either.  (Big Smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 11:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Yeah, I have to say one thing that makes me really happy about this setup is 
> having a home key again, and having function keys.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:09 PM, KliphnShari Miller  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That smart keyboard for the 11 inch sucks also.  Has no function keys, 
>> no escape key, and is over priced.  At least the Logitech model 
>> provides edge to edge protection if you do drop it.  I had the 6th ten
>> 2018 model, but sold it and got the iPad Pro 2018 model.  Waiting for 
>> the keyboard made by bridge, it is currently on back order, it is 
>> suppose to make your keyboard look like and MacBook Pro setup.  We 
>> will see.  Right now I am substituting with the magic keyboard,
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:35 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have found the same, with regard to swiping in order to find certain 
>>> buttons.  
>>> 
>>> I am also using the scrub jester, a great deal.
>>> 
>>> I've heard wonderful things about that Logitek keyboard case.  So far, I'm 
>>> not that impressed with the Apple Smart Keyboard.  It's thin but it's not 
>>> very fast and it does not have an escape key.  Try as I may, I cannot 
>>> determine the use of the function key on this keyboard.  
>>> 
>>> Tell me, do you find that, even with the keyboard connected, you must still 
>>> continue to use the display to interact with the device?  Does your 
>>> keyboard have an escape key?
>>> 
>>> If you really like the Logitek keyboard, let me know and perhaps I'll pick 
>>> one up.  I'm almost certain they won't have any for 10.5 anywhere but 
>>> either online or at Apple.  
>>> 
>>> Apparently, my poor little 10.5 is the proverbial black sheep of the iPad 
>>> family, these days.  (smile).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:44 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
>>> 
>>> Hey again, Mark,
>>> 
>>> I'm having trouble getting used to navigating the screen, too.  At this 
>>> point, I find I'm doing a lot more swiping around, which kind of negates 
>>> the benefits of a touch screen.  But for example, it seems like the only 
>>> way I can get out of a settings menu is to swipe all the way back through 
>>> the options until I hear the back button spoken.  If anyone has pointers 
>>> for navigating the larger screen, they would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> As for holding the device, I bought a Logitech keyboard case with mine, so 
>>> my plan is that often at least, I will just set it in my lap or on a 
>>> surface, like I would a laptop.  I'm actually starting to wonder to what 
>>> point this thing can become a laptop replacement.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna.
 
 Wow!  Good for you.  Congratulations on your new 

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

Hmm!  It never occurred to me that the number row on the Apple Keyboard may 
double as function keys.  If so, I have not yet discovered how to make this 
happen.  I tried pressing them in combination with the function key, located on 
the lower-left corner of the device but, as yet, no soap.  

I'll do some research on this.

Actually, the Smart keyboard is not that bad, in terms of size, look and feel.

I think I just need more time with it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

Hi Mark,

I thought the series1 of the smart keyboard did have function keys?

Or is it they double up as function keys.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2019 9:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

Oh yeah, this $150 Apple Smart Keyboard I purchase?  It does not have any 
function keys, either.  (Big Smile).

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

Yeah, I have to say one thing that makes me really happy about this setup is 
having a home key again, and having function keys.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:09 PM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> That smart keyboard for the 11 inch sucks also.  Has no function keys, 
> no escape key, and is over priced.  At least the Logitech model 
> provides edge to edge protection if you do drop it.  I had the 6th ten
> 2018 model, but sold it and got the iPad Pro 2018 model.  Waiting for 
> the keyboard made by bridge, it is currently on back order, it is 
> suppose to make your keyboard look like and MacBook Pro setup.  We 
> will see.  Right now I am substituting with the magic keyboard,
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:35 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Yes, I have found the same, with regard to swiping in order to find certain 
>> buttons.  
>> 
>> I am also using the scrub jester, a great deal.
>> 
>> I've heard wonderful things about that Logitek keyboard case.  So far, I'm 
>> not that impressed with the Apple Smart Keyboard.  It's thin but it's not 
>> very fast and it does not have an escape key.  Try as I may, I cannot 
>> determine the use of the function key on this keyboard.  
>> 
>> Tell me, do you find that, even with the keyboard connected, you must still 
>> continue to use the display to interact with the device?  Does your keyboard 
>> have an escape key?
>> 
>> If you really like the Logitek keyboard, let me know and perhaps I'll pick 
>> one up.  I'm almost certain they won't have any for 10.5 anywhere but either 
>> online or at Apple.  
>> 
>> Apparently, my poor little 10.5 is the proverbial black sheep of the iPad 
>> family, these days.  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:44 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
>> 
>> Hey again, Mark,
>> 
>> I'm having trouble getting used to navigating the screen, too.  At this 
>> point, I find I'm doing a lot more swiping around, which kind of negates the 
>> benefits of a touch screen.  But for example, it seems like the only way I 
>> can get out of a settings menu is to swipe all the way back through the 
>> options until I hear the back button spoken.  If anyone has pointers for 
>> navigating the larger screen, they would be appreciated.
>> 
>> As for holding the device, I bought a Logitech keyboard case with mine, so 
>> my plan is that often at least, I will just set it in my lap or on a 
>> surface, like I would a laptop.  I'm actually starting to wonder to what 
>> point this thing can become a laptop replacement.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna.
>>> 
>>> Wow!  Good for you.  Congratulations on your new iPad.
>>> 
>>> I purchased an iPad Pro 10.5 inch.
>>> 
>>> I purchased the Pro because I wanted faster speed, along with TouchID and 
>>> the ability to use the Apple Smart keyboard.  Also, Pro has four amazing 
>>> speakers.
>>> 
>>> Now because of a home office computer catastrophe that has since been 
>>> resolved, even though I've owned my iPad since Monday, I've only spent 
>>> about 2 hours working with it, so far.  
>>> 
>>> I'll tell you that, while I love the sound quality of the device and the 
>>> display is amazing, I'm having a bit of a problem getting used to VoiceOver 
>>> on the larger 

Re: Printer/Scanner

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Yours truly is on her second Brother multi function device in the last
decade plus. Should my current printer/copier/scanner/fax die, I'm quite
certain I'll just get another Brother.

Fax? Who uses fax anymore!  Mine isn't hooked up, but the machine
does support fax. It's all the same technology after all.

PS: Mine is the model 9840DW. I got it from Newegg about 10 years ago as
an open box resale for $150. In the early days I had some issues with
Linux drivers, but no longer. I've never had issues on Macintosh or
Windows with this machine, and it works with my Android just as well.
It's a network printer, so I share it out on my network via my OpenWRT
router.

Best,

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>Would like recommendations for a printer/scanner that uses an accessible
> web interface for both Windows and Mac.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah, I know. That's really crazy.
Donna

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> Yeah we're not as lucky as you guys.
> 
> Our apple product pricing is over the top,
> 
> Smallest sized iPad mini is 500 nz dollars.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2019 12:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I ended up getting my iPad 128 for about $70 less than the Mini 4 would have 
> cost me.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:11 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi donna,
>> 
>> I've asked myself tht same question.
>> 
>> As for the ipad,
>> Yeah that iPad has a slightly slower processor and very basic features.
>> 
>> It's meant as an entry level device.
>> 
>> I'm just looking at the minis and that 2018 model, The price points at 
>> the 2018 model being the better choice of purchase.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2019 1:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?
>> 
>> So here's another question. I had assumed that the reason you need to run 
>> Swift on an iPad was because it is faster.  Clearly that's not the case.  
>> since it isn't speed, why is it that you can't run Swift on a phone?  Screen 
>> real-estate?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 5:17 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am ok with the speed difference though it sure stands out next to my 8+.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/2019 2:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 You know, the speed thing that Harry mentioned really has come as a 
 surprise.  I've been reading online and saw a comparison of the iPad 
 processor with the iPhone 7.  I would have expected the iPad to be much 
 faster than that.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Feb 23, 2019, at 3:07 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have an iPad which is fairly old now, but it nevertheless runs the 
> latest iOS. It's excellent for Facetime calls and for listening to 
> podcasts or music. I can also read mail on it.
> 
> My iPhone is much newer and faster, but the iPad remains useful for the 
> purposes that I've mentioned. Whehter you need or want one very much 
> depends on what you would use it for, and whether you think that 
> justifies the investment.
> 
> On 2/23/19, 13:20, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Well, I'm now the proud owner of a 2018 iPad, and a Logictech 
> keyboard case.  This sets a record for my most expensive impulse 
> buy.  Feeling very glad for BestBuy's two-week return policy. lol
> 
>  Guess I'm off to play!
>  Cheers,
>  Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:03 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I need to set this up again when I find a victim, err, a volunteer, so I 
>> can make some practice runs and make sure I csan do this on the fly. The 
>> Focus Blue 5th as made this so simple and so far I like the wauy it all 
>> works. For this I use the Drafts app because it opens directly to the 
>> text field.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>> were true?
>> 
>> On 2/23/2019 8:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey ET,
>>> That’s an interesting set up. I’ve always hated having to choose 
>>> between a braille display and a qwerty keyboard, so that actually 
>>> sounds kind of attractive. Thanks.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
 On Feb 23, 2019, at 10:38 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 If you are ready now, there is no reason to wait for a new 
 model. If everyone was to wait for the next generation, they may 
 as well, well, wait forever. (smiles)
 
 I have the mini 4. Its main purpose is as a backup should something 
 happen to my hearing. Its in a case with a qwerty keyboard. Pair the 
 mini with a braille display and I can communicate with others.
 
 I don't use it much currently but that will change.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
 were true?
 
> On 2/23/2019 7:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Thanks.  I'll check out 9-5 Mac and see what I can learn.  But since 
> I envision the iPad being a very secondary device, I'm not sure 

Singing the praises of FineReader Pro

[Anne Robertson]

Hello list,
My husband bought me a rather obscure double CD recently and I wanted to be 
able to read the very extensive information in the enclosed booklet. The print 
is very tiny, pale on a dark background and printed over photos of landscapes. 
To complicate matters further, some of the songs are written in a dialect of 
Canadian French that creates French forms of English words. I’m talking about 
Acadian French. Although there were a few problems with the OCR, they were very 
few and my sighted husband was able to correct them very quickly. He said they 
only occurred where artistic wavy lines on the backround pictures intersected 
with letters.
I’m really impressed.
Cheers,

Anne



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