Re: Refreshing iCloud Drive

[Dave Carlson]

Okay, I went back to iCloud settings in the iPhone, and iCloud in System 
Preferences, made sure I had everything checked, and then launched iCloud.com 
 in Safari on the Mac. After I logged in and went through 
all that 6-digit verification code stuff…dah-dah-bang, gah-dah-boom! It’s 
working again. Thanks for pushing me in the right direction.


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Re: Laser Printer Suggestions

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I just looked on Amazon and found this one which is monochrome, 
$170. I need to go back and read more reviews as one said the scan 
process requires the HP application. I may have to keep looking. The 
link is below.




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On 2/21/2020 5:23 PM, N2KPV wrote:
I know this question was asked before .  I am looking for an all  in one 
laser printer that works well with mac .


Thanks in advance .

Ben C.  N2KPV

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Six core MacBook pro and loaded imac 5k for sale...

[Cameron Strife]

Hi all. I am selling a six core MacBook pro and a maxed out 5k iMac to
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Re: Laser Printer Suggestions

[N2KPV]

At the present I am using an HP Ink Jet printer that does all that ,but I 
am getting tired of changing the cartridges .  

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 8:27:40 PM UTC-5, Jason White wrote:
>
> I can’t make a product recommendation, but I would suggest making sure 
> that whatever printer you choose supports AirPrint. Also, support for 
> direct printing of PDF files would be useful.
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311
>
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> bennnyco...@gmail.com >
> *Reply-To: *>
> *Date: *Friday, February 21, 2020 at 20:23
> *To: *MacVisionaries >
> *Subject: *Laser Printer Suggestions
>
>  
>
> I know this question was asked before .  I am looking for an all  in one 
> laser printer that works well with mac . 
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance .
>
>  
>
> Ben C.  N2KPV
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Re: Laser Printer Suggestions

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I can’t make a product recommendation, but I would suggest making sure that 
whatever printer you choose supports AirPrint. Also, support for direct 
printing of PDF files would be useful.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311

 

From:  on behalf of N2KPV 

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Date: Friday, February 21, 2020 at 20:23
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Laser Printer Suggestions

 

I know this question was asked before .  I am looking for an all  in one laser 
printer that works well with mac . 

 

Thanks in advance .

 

Ben C.  N2KPV

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Laser Printer Suggestions

[N2KPV]

I know this question was asked before .  I am looking for an all  in one 
laser printer that works well with mac . 

Thanks in advance .

Ben C.  N2KPV

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Re: resetting password

[wayne coles]

hellow and thanks for that i will take a look later

On 2/20/2020 11:37 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi Wayne,

When powering your machine back on, hold down command+r for a couple of minutes 
to be certain you are going to boot into recovery mode.  Then release the keys 
and wait.  You won’t have speech automatically here so what I usually do while 
waiting is to try and activate voiceover with command+f5.  If voiceover comes 
on, it means I’m in the recovery mode.  There you will find a table with 
options. I think the last option in the table is disk utility. Position 
voiceover cursor on it and continue.  Once in disk utility you should be able 
to find terminal in disk utility menu with the usual vo+m key combination.  
Hope I can remember this right.

Good luck

Andrew

On 21 Feb 2020, at 03:58, wayne coles  wrote:

hello list i have a problem i asked before and got a answer but i have lost the 
email so i need it resent if possible so i need to know how to get to the 
terminal from a shut down state and i know when i get there i have to type 
resetpassword is that right but i am not sure if it is command r to get there 
and what to do when i find it so any help please

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Re: Refreshing iCloud Drive

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

Likely you are correct. I need to go back and see if I set up something 
incorrectly. It’s strange that a couple files are updating to fairly recent 
vintage, but most of them are stuck back in the dark ages.

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:33 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

Hmmm.  That is odd.  Like I said, 5 minutes should be the longest you have to 
wait from my experience.  If you go to iCloud.com on the web, are the files 
there as far as you can tell?  Is your Mac set to optimize or to keep 
everything local?

Later...


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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2020, at 13:25, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
 wrote:

It’s been happening for a long time. I never really paid much attention, but 
when I am away from the computer, and the iPhone has a pile I would like, it’s 
irritating to not find it updated. There are several piles that should be 
showing up as recent, since many of them are updated on a daily basis. For 
example, my most recent updated file is dated January 20 of this year. And 
today is February 20 no February 21.

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:12 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

Dave,

Did you just start syncing things in your Documents and Desktop folders, or has 
this supposedly been syncing for quite a while?  If it's brand new, then it may 
take a while for everything to move up to iCloud then be visible to the iPhone. 
 If it's not a brand new thing, I have seen it take a while for the iPhone to 
see updates or changes to files.  Not a real long time, maybe 5 minutes or so.  
The only way I know to refresh things, would be to either turn off iCloud Drive 
on the iPhone, then back out of Settings, wait a minute or two then re-enable 
it.  I don't recommend that approach.  Alternatively, you could close the Files 
app from the app switcher, then upon re-opening it, it would do a poll of the 
existing iCloud Drive data.  Again, this should only be necessary if you've 
been syncing iCloud Drive for a long time and this is just happening lately.  
Finally, of course, there's always the good old restart of the iPhone that 
likes to fix all sorts of unknown issues.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:25, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
 wrote:

I sync my documents folder from my Mac to my iPhone using iCloud drive. 
However, it does not appear that the files on my iPhone are updating 
automatically, or even if they update at all. If there something I need to do 
on my own to refresh these files, or a setting that I need to enable so that 
they refresh automatically?

Dave
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Re: Refreshing iCloud Drive

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hmmm.  That is odd.  Like I said, 5 minutes should be the longest you have to 
wait from my experience.  If you go to iCloud.com on the web, are the files 
there as far as you can tell?  Is your Mac set to optimize or to keep 
everything local?

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2020, at 13:25, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
 wrote:

It’s been happening for a long time. I never really paid much attention, but 
when I am away from the computer, and the iPhone has a pile I would like, it’s 
irritating to not find it updated. There are several piles that should be 
showing up as recent, since many of them are updated on a daily basis. For 
example, my most recent updated file is dated January 20 of this year. And 
today is February 20 no February 21.

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:12 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 

Dave,

Did you just start syncing things in your Documents and Desktop folders, or has 
this supposedly been syncing for quite a while?  If it's brand new, then it may 
take a while for everything to move up to iCloud then be visible to the iPhone. 
 If it's not a brand new thing, I have seen it take a while for the iPhone to 
see updates or changes to files.  Not a real long time, maybe 5 minutes or so.  
The only way I know to refresh things, would be to either turn off iCloud Drive 
on the iPhone, then back out of Settings, wait a minute or two then re-enable 
it.  I don't recommend that approach.  Alternatively, you could close the Files 
app from the app switcher, then upon re-opening it, it would do a poll of the 
existing iCloud Drive data.  Again, this should only be necessary if you've 
been syncing iCloud Drive for a long time and this is just happening lately.  
Finally, of course, there's always the good old restart of the iPhone that 
likes to fix all sorts of unknown issues.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:25, David G. Carlson via iPhone mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

I sync my documents folder from my Mac to my iPhone using iCloud drive. 
However, it does not appear that the files on my iPhone are updating 
automatically, or even if they update at all. If there something I need to do 
on my own to refresh these files, or a setting that I need to enable so that 
they refresh automatically?

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


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Re: Refreshing iCloud Drive

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

It’s been happening for a long time. I never really paid much attention, but 
when I am away from the computer, and the iPhone has a pile I would like, it’s 
irritating to not find it updated. There are several piles that should be 
showing up as recent, since many of them are updated on a daily basis. For 
example, my most recent updated file is dated January 20 of this year. And 
today is February 20 no February 21.

Dave
Woodworker, engineer, musician, Oregonian, and pioneer


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:12 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

Dave,

Did you just start syncing things in your Documents and Desktop folders, or has 
this supposedly been syncing for quite a while?  If it's brand new, then it may 
take a while for everything to move up to iCloud then be visible to the iPhone. 
 If it's not a brand new thing, I have seen it take a while for the iPhone to 
see updates or changes to files.  Not a real long time, maybe 5 minutes or so.  
The only way I know to refresh things, would be to either turn off iCloud Drive 
on the iPhone, then back out of Settings, wait a minute or two then re-enable 
it.  I don't recommend that approach.  Alternatively, you could close the Files 
app from the app switcher, then upon re-opening it, it would do a poll of the 
existing iCloud Drive data.  Again, this should only be necessary if you've 
been syncing iCloud Drive for a long time and this is just happening lately.  
Finally, of course, there's always the good old restart of the iPhone that 
likes to fix all sorts of unknown issues.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:25, David G. Carlson via iPhone 
 wrote:

I sync my documents folder from my Mac to my iPhone using iCloud drive. 
However, it does not appear that the files on my iPhone are updating 
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Re: Refreshing iCloud Drive

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Dave,

Did you just start syncing things in your Documents and Desktop folders, or has 
this supposedly been syncing for quite a while?  If it's brand new, then it may 
take a while for everything to move up to iCloud then be visible to the iPhone. 
 If it's not a brand new thing, I have seen it take a while for the iPhone to 
see updates or changes to files.  Not a real long time, maybe 5 minutes or so.  
The only way I know to refresh things, would be to either turn off iCloud Drive 
on the iPhone, then back out of Settings, wait a minute or two then re-enable 
it.  I don't recommend that approach.  Alternatively, you could close the Files 
app from the app switcher, then upon re-opening it, it would do a poll of the 
existing iCloud Drive data.  Again, this should only be necessary if you've 
been syncing iCloud Drive for a long time and this is just happening lately.  
Finally, of course, there's always the good old restart of the iPhone that 
likes to fix all sorts of unknown issues.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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I sync my documents folder from my Mac to my iPhone using iCloud drive. 
However, it does not appear that the files on my iPhone are updating 
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Re: Refreshing iCloud Drive

[J. Cyr]

I ran into this issue with the Notes App just  yesterday.  Being very new to 
the Mac I presumed I was missing something or doing it wrong and called Apple 
Accessibility.  After going through everything he knew to do the rep assisting 
me concluded that it was a technical problem, referred it to the correct 
department and arranged a call back with me next week.  Very interesting to 
hear I may not be the only one experiencing   this problem.
Joy



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Refreshing iCloud Drive

[David G. Carlson via iPhone]

I sync my documents folder from my Mac to my iPhone using iCloud drive. 
However, it does not appear that the files on my iPhone are updating 
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Re: Searching in mail

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Hi Chris,

It sounds like your computer lost the search field in the upgrade to Catalina 
as well.  the only way to fix this is to use the Customize toolbar item under 
the View menu.  the problem is that this dialog/window does not work with VO 
dragging in any way shape or form.  I have reported it to Apple, but it 
wouldn't hurt if someone else did.  So, your options are to get sighted 
assistance to have them use the Customize toolbar window to drag the search 
field back into place, or to try dragging it yourself and guessing where to 
drop it.  The dragging needs to be done with your Trackpad or mouse, as it 
cannot be done with VO methods.  I was able to make it work without sighted 
assistance, but it took a lot of patience and may have been a fluke that I even 
got it to drop in the right place.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:54, Chris Moore  wrote:

Hi Tim,
I go into the toolbar, move to the far right,
and vo says “search more items pop-up button”
Then I hit VO + space and it says “menu”.

Basically, I can’t find any text area to enter the search criteria.

Chris

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> Hi,
> 
> From the front screen of the Mail app, interact with the Toolbar, navigate 
> right to find the Search field and enter your criteria there.  If there's no 
> search field, let me know, as that's a not uncommon problem that has happened 
> with some when upgrading to Catalina.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
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> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:15, Chris Moore  > wrote:
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> Hello,
> I’m trying to search for messages in mac mail.  I can’t figure this out using 
> VO.  
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> Any help appreciated.
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Re: Searching in mail

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I start by typing control-option F while in a message list. You should 
then be able to start typing, once you have a couple of letters in then you 
should be able to use downarrow to find a list of completions.
.

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Re: Searching in mail

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Hi Tim,
I go into the toolbar, move to the far right,
and vo says “search more items pop-up button”
Then I hit VO + space and it says “menu”.

Basically, I can’t find any text area to enter the search criteria.

Chris

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:18 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> From the front screen of the Mail app, interact with the Toolbar, navigate 
> right to find the Search field and enter your criteria there.  If there's no 
> search field, let me know, as that's a not uncommon problem that has happened 
> with some when upgrading to Catalina.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:15, Chris Moore  > wrote:
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> I’m trying to search for messages in mac mail.  I can’t figure this out using 
> VO.  
> 
> Any help appreciated.
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Re: Searching in mail

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

>From the front screen of the Mail app, interact with the Toolbar, navigate 
>right to find the Search field and enter your criteria there.  If there's no 
>search field, let me know, as that's a not uncommon problem that has happened 
>with some when upgrading to Catalina.

Later...


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On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:15, Chris Moore  wrote:

Hello,
I’m trying to search for messages in mac mail.  I can’t figure this out using 
VO.  

Any help appreciated.

Chris

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Searching in mail

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Hello,
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VO.  

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Working with Numbers and Voiceover

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Apple has books for both iPad and Mac in the Apple BookStore.  Search for 
Numbers for Mac Starter Guide or Numbers for iPad Starter Guide.  It's not 
specifically for VoiceOver, but will certainly give you the basics and more for 
Numbers.

Later...


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On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:55, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:

Hi List,

Does anyone know of any good resources for learning how to use numbers with 
voiceover? Looking four something rigorous and detailed. One on one training 
opportunities are also acceptable.

Thanks,
Ibraheem

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Working with Numbers and Voiceover

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Hi List,

Does anyone know of any good resources for learning how to use numbers with 
voiceover? Looking four something rigorous and detailed. One on one training 
opportunities are also acceptable.

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Re: How to stop voiceover from announcing dropbox notifications?

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Yes, as I have explained, i have played around with these categories setting 
notifications to none and they are still occurring.
> On 21 Feb 2020, at 16:58, dan d.  wrote:
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> In system preferences there is a notification category, there are checkmarks 
> to silence notifications.
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> On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> This is driving me spare!  I???m uploading loads of stuff to dropbox, 
>> including backing up my home folder.  Voiceover keeps announcing file names 
>> being uploaded or downloaded interrupting whatever I???m trying to read. 
>> This is crazy because in Notification I have turned all notifications to 
>> dropbox to ???none???.  Since it didn???t solve the problem, I went to 
>> dropbox preferences and snoozed notifications for a day too.  But Voiceover 
>> is still reading the notifications.   Is there a way of dealing with this?
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: How to stop voiceover from announcing dropbox notifications?

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In system preferences there is a notification category, there are checkmarks to 
silence notifications.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is driving me spare!  I???m uploading loads of stuff to dropbox, 
> including backing up my home folder.  Voiceover keeps announcing file names 
> being uploaded or downloaded interrupting whatever I???m trying to read.  
> This is crazy because in Notification I have turned all notifications to 
> dropbox to ???none???.  Since it didn???t solve the problem, I went to 
> dropbox preferences and snoozed notifications for a day too.  But Voiceover 
> is still reading the notifications.   Is there a way of dealing with this?
>
> Andrew
>
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Re: resetting password

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When in terminal use the passwd command and follow the prompts.

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, wayne coles wrote:

> hello list i have a problem i asked before and got a answer but i have
> lost the email so i need it resent if possible so i need to know how to
> get to the terminal from a shut down state and i know when i get there i
> have to type resetpassword is that right but i am not sure if it is
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Re: Selecting text from a web page

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Using Safari, turn quick navigation off, and use Shift with the Arrow keys to 
select.

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
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> Quick question. If I am on a webpage and I am using VoiceOver, how do I 
> select text from the webpage? For example I might have a list of ingredients 
> or a list of hotkeys that I would like to save to a file. I am using Google 
> Chrome but can easily use Safari. Thank you for any assistance.
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Selecting text from a web page

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Hello everyone,

Quick question. If I am on a webpage and I am using VoiceOver, how do I select 
text from the webpage? For example I might have a list of ingredients or a list 
of hotkeys that I would like to save to a file. I am using Google Chrome but 
can easily use Safari. Thank you for any assistance.

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Re: Ringer and alerts volume on the iPhone

[Dave Carlson]

Agree with Tim’s assessment. Audio routing has become, and is continuing to be 
very complicated. We have all these audio channels available now, and no way to 
easily distinguish one from another. I have bluetooth hearing aids, and will 
attest to that ringer blasting into my ears when a call comes in. I have to 
keep my ringer volume set low and not have the buttons involved, to prevent the 
overwhelming sound. That means the volume coming from the phone speakers is 
lower, as well.
The only final answer would be that Apple would code all their audio channels  
so they route through a dedicated mixer either through the control center or 
give access to app developers. Being able to individually and independently 
control each audio channel is really the only complete answer to these problems.
Just counting on my fingers, I believe there are 4 output channels (phone 
headset, speakers, headphone jack, and Bluetooth) not all of which are stereo. 
Then the input sources as Tim wrote. A very complex traffic pattern to control, 
just as in a recording studio or live performance stage, where there is a sound 
engineer at the control board, deciding on what goes where.
Are you listening, Apple? or do you have your buds muted?


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Re: Ringer and alerts volume on the iPhone

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Petrus,

It sounds like the external Bluetooth speaker is messing with you.  The iPhone 
has multiple channels for sound including the internal speaker, , the earpiece 
speaker, headphones and external AirPlay or Bluetooth sound.  Normally, these 
can be adjusted independently but I believe the confusion starts to manifest 
itself when Bluetooth speakers come in the mix.  It seems that when the 
Bluetooth speaker is connected, often the ringer sound is routed through that 
Bluetooth speaker when a call comes in.  You'll also note that when a Bluetooth 
speaker is connected, modifying the volume only affects the output volume of 
the Audio Book, music or streaming audio.  Adjusting the volume does not change 
the volume of VO if VO is still routed through the internal speaker.  So, I 
guess what I'm saying is that it's complicated when you start having multiple 
audio sources going at once, especially when you add VO sound to the equation.  
I guess that you could say that I'm not really giving a good answer here, just 
a bunch of excuses, but I'm just attempting to enlighten you as to the 
complexity of the audio routing behaviour when all these factors are involved.  
Whether it should or shouldn't behave a certain way when the Bluetooth speaker 
is connected, I'm not sure, but when there's a not a Bluetooth speaker 
involved, you are correct in how you believe it should behave.

Later...


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On Feb 20, 2020, at 20:24, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I have change with buttons turned off for my ringer and alerts volume on my 
iPhone turned off but the volume still seems to be getting turned down as I 
adjust the volume of my audio book or music when I have my bluetooth speaker 
attached. I thought having the change with buttons turned off should leave the 
volume of the ringer and alerts alone?
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Re: best twitter apps

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Hi Donna. Night Owl actually is Yorufukurou. They Just Changed the name.   

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi Shawn,
> 
> I know what you mean about VO notifications interrupting other things, but I 
> guess I’ve just gotten used to it. I had Yurifuquru (sp) on my Mac, but my 
> understanding is that it doesn’t work any more.  I’ll give Night Owl a try. 
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> Hi Donna. I still use Night Owl on my Mac. Even though I'm not really happy 
>> with them seeing as how they've removed Growl as a method for notifications. 
>> Yeah, I know I'm a little old fashioned, but I really liked Growl over 
>> notification center. Maybe if Apple made it so that notifications didn't 
>> interrupt what Voiceover is reading to me, I'd like it more.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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>>> Hi all,
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>>> What are the best twitter apps these days for Mac and IOS?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: best twitter apps

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Shawn,

I know what you mean about VO notifications interrupting other things, but I 
guess I’ve just gotten used to it. I had Yurifuquru (sp) on my Mac, but my 
understanding is that it doesn’t work any more.  I’ll give Night Owl a try. 
Thanks for the suggestion.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

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> Hi Donna. I still use Night Owl on my Mac. Even though I'm not really happy 
> with them seeing as how they've removed Growl as a method for notifications. 
> Yeah, I know I'm a little old fashioned, but I really liked Growl over 
> notification center. Maybe if Apple made it so that notifications didn't 
> interrupt what Voiceover is reading to me, I'd like it more.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility 
> Matters or my new group, Mac Users And Newbies? Send me a private email with 
> your contact information and I'll happily add you.
> 
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> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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>> Hi all,
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>> What are the best twitter apps these days for Mac and IOS?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: toggling

[Patrick Ford]

oh this is good to know; yes your instructions are easily understood; thanks so 
much, I will keep this as a note.
Patrick 

> On Feb 20, 2020, at 10:39 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Let’s say you have 3 applications open.  If you start from one of them, and 
> press command+tab do not release command button until you hear the name of 
> the application you want to move backwards and forwards from.  Only then 
> release the command button.  In this way, next time you execute command+tab 
> you will move directly to the 2nd desired application without going through 
> the other open windows.  I hope it makes sense.
>> On 20 Feb 2020, at 20:51, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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>> Hi, again,
>> In toggling between two programs, for instance, text edit and music, I use 
>> tab plus command.
>> But often when toggling from one or the other, I am brought to the finder or 
>> desktop. So I go to the doc to return to the program in question.
>> Am I doing this correctly with tab and command?
>> Thanks.
>> Patrick  
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RE: resetting password

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes Command R then from the apple menu go to the utilities menu and enter on 
terminal.

Then you should be fine.

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Behalf Of wayne coles
Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 4:59 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: resetting password

hello list i have a problem i asked before and got a answer but i have lost the 
email so i need it resent if possible so i need to know how to get to the 
terminal from a shut down state and i know when i get there i have to type 
resetpassword is that right but i am not sure if it is command r to get there 
and what to do when i find it so any help please

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RE: Ringer and alerts volume on the iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi petrus,

Yeah that’s what I thought also.

I believe you have checked it again to ensure you have unticked the box?


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 4:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ringer and alerts volume on the iPhone

Hi all,
I have change with buttons turned off for my ringer and alerts volume on my 
iPhone turned off but the volume still seems to be getting turned down as I 
adjust the volume of my audio book or music when I have my bluetooth speaker 
attached. I thought having the change with buttons turned off should leave the 
volume of the ringer and alerts alone?
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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RE: Reading text word by word

[Simon A Fogarty]

Tim it will be the time difference,

Petrus is a bit slower because of where he lives therefore a time difference 
for the rest of the world.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 9:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading text word by word

Sorry.  I should let you have a chance :).

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 20, 2020, at 13:33, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You got there a fraction before me, I was just in the middle of typing the same 
thing when you replied. Gotta be quick to beat you.


On 21/02/2020, at 09:31, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Option-left/right arrow should be hat you're looking for.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 20, 2020, at 13:27, John Skyner 
mailto:j...@skyner.co.uk>> wrote:

   Hi all

Jaws has a keystroke control right or left arrow to read a document word by 
word, does the mac have a similar keystroke.

Thanks

John

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RE: Reading text word by word

[Simon A Fogarty]

In a way yes.

There is a thing called the rota  which allows you to read in many ways such as 
character by character word by word etc



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Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 9:28 AM
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   Hi all

Jaws has a keystroke control right or left arrow to read a document word by 
word, does the mac have a similar keystroke.

Thanks

John
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Apple Event in March With iPhone 9, iPad Pro With 3D Sensing, and More?

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Hey Lists,

I thought some might like to read the rumoured mac announcement date and other 
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