RE: Body Cams

[Simon A Fogarty]

Mind you,
I’m sure I could hit someone around the ankle and they would definitely 
complain.

And as I use a folding cain,
I find that when sighted people trip over it from not watching where I am going 
or they are stepping,
Not only does my cain break but they tend to fall over to which I say,
Well that probably hert, and how do I get home due to your clumsiness!?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 1:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Body Cams

Knocking over old people, stepping on little children, just the other day I 
went into my local hospital and the greeter was very concerned that my white 
cane might injure the other people in the hospital. so, I tapped her on her 
ankle a few times to show her that it didn’t hurt. i’d like to see a project 
that collects stories from the blind of their dealings with the public. I know 
I’ve got quite a few.
Sent from my IPhone



On May 12, 2020, at 8:52 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Simon,

This is what I was thinking about.
https://www.letsenvision.com/glasse
Any other solutions?
These may be a bit proprietary!
Love the clip on idea though.
Thanks
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’

On May 12, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:


Do you mean something like the google glasses?



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 8:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Body Cams

Hi Guys,
What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your hole 
body towards the shot?
What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you can 
turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :) And last 
but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as they go by!
The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
just a address for the code infractions! ;) YMMV Chuck "God does not play dice 
with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog is 
dealing with the public sometimes.

Sent from my IPhone


On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Phil,
Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.

I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners who 
think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are right 
here in my apartment complex.

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Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?

On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? Or 
perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little old 
lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and that’s 
a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might be an 
interesting idea to try out here.
Sent from my IPhone
On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

   I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can anyone 
recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will allow easy 
access or transfers to my iPhone.

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true?

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Writible CDs and DVDs

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
I have a lot of MP3 audio books that I’m going to burn onto CDs for a work 
colleague of mine so they have something to listen to in the car on the way 
home from school now that the little Devils are going back to school next week. 
Oops, did I say that, I meant angels. I am going to by some more writable DVDs 
for this task, but I do have one blank CD left but can’t remember what capacity 
it is and I might be able to burn some books onto it before next week while I’m 
waiting for the new disc’s to arrive. 
So how can I check to see what the capacity of the blank Disc is please?
Thanks,
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Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Yes, I agree with that one sometimes. I like to play music shuffled on my 
bluetooth speaker at work and if I have wet hands I have to use Siri to ask it 
to play music. If I ask it to play my hard rock or heavy metal collections 
shuffled it does fine, but if I ask it to play alternative shuffled it will 
sometimes tell me that it is playing my entire music collection shuffled.  You 
could always put your favourite albums into a play list and then ask Siri to 
play that play list. 

> On 13/05/2020, at 03:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> But tell siri to play some music has there issues.
> At least here in Sweden.
> /A
> 
>> 12 maj 2020 kl. 00:11 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Yes, I’m the same, don’t use Siri for a lot at all. But there are plenty out 
>> there that use it a lot and even rely on it. And why not, as long as people 
>> are using the tools on the iPhone or iPad that suits their needs and getting 
>> the job done. I wasn’t aiming that comment at you. 
>> 
>>> On 11/05/2020, at 19:40, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Petrus,
>>>  
>>> The only thing I use siri for is to make a phone call.
>>>  
>>> Just a siri call xyz.
>>>  
>>> Can’t be bothered trying to use ti for other things.
>>>  
>>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  >> >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>>> Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 8:33 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?
>>>  
>>> That’s what I like about this list, instructions are normally given in 
>>> manual gestures. I’m on an NZ based iPhone list and a lot of the members on 
>>> there heavily rely on Siri to do most of  their iPhone and iPad functions. 
>>> Not that there is anything wrong in that, the good thing with Apple is it 
>>> gives you lots of options to achieve the same thing. Personally I never 
>>> used Siri when I first got my phone or iPad  as I wanted to learn how to do 
>>> it myself.  But  you could also ask Siri to place the FaceTime call for 
>>> you. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/05/2020, at 02:50, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> After pressing the Add button, enter the phone number that you wish to call 
>>> with FaceTime Audio, then press return on the keyboard.  Go back up to the 
>>> entry field and swipe right past the Add Contact button.  There will be 
>>> buttons for Audio and Video calling.  Double-tap whichever you wish and the 
>>> call should be placed.
>>>  
>>> Later…
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2020, at 7:09 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject line says it all. I Googled this and found something that said you 
>>> click on the plus sign at the top of the screen, which I assume is 
>>> referring to the Add button. But that just adds the contact to call, I 
>>> don’t see an option for Facetime audio. Anyone know how to do this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

[Brad Snyder]

I went through the Apple Store app, and followed the trade-in option when 
ordering the new mini.
I’m glad to be getting something for it because I think the SATA HD is going 
bad.  It has been doing weird things for about a year, and I have been backing 
it up constantly in anticipation of its failure.

- Brad -




On May 12, 2020, at 12:11, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Hmmph.  Interesting.  I tried a year ago with a 2012 iMac with 16 GB RAM and 
was offered $0.  Lucky you.  I guess that it’s always good to check for 
yourself.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 12, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> I just ordered a new Mac mini and it is on the way.
> I am getting $150 USD for my current 2012 mini, which will be applied to my 
> credit card/Apple Pay used to purchase the new mini.  I am being sent a kit 
> to send in the old mini.  Shipping is being paid by Apple or whoever is the 
> subcontractor.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2020, at 10:54, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> To add to Julie’s comments, the iPhone and iPad seem to retain their value 
> longer and thus are more likely to give you some extra towards a new Apple 
> device.  I have used this system with both iPhone and iPad, and was pleased.  
> The Mac is a different story.  As I mentioned, past about five or six years 
> old, you’re not going to really get anything for it.  It may still work for 
> you, or someone else, but the reseller that is purchasing it does not believe 
> that the effort they may need to put into it is worth giving you any amount.  
> Usually, they’ll take it for free and recycle it if you wish, but other than 
> that, no cash value.  It may be a little different across the big pond, but 
> here in North America, the shipping was free, at least for the iPhone and 
> iPad.  I’m not sure for the Mac as I never bothered going any further than 
> the initial investigation.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Julie Rattray > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I think this is the issue if you look on the apple app it will give you 
>> estimates for any apple products registered to your Apple ID and really if 
>> the model is too old they don’t want it and even newish ones don’t generate 
>> that much so it depends on what you want to trade.
>> 
>> I am not sure about what happens after you decide to do it as like Tim never 
>> bothered as it wasn’t worth the postage etc  
>> 
>>> On 12 May 2020, at 16:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Search for Apple Trade-In for Mac or Apple Trade-In for iPhone.  Pages 
>>> should come up that you can use.  It is a third party purchaser contracted 
>>> by Apple to provide this service.  The form is mostly accessible, although 
>>> a little frustrating at times.  For iPhone and iPad, you fill out the forms 
>>> on-line, then you can either use your own packing boxes or they’ll send you 
>>> one.  Your estimated value is given to you prior to them receiving the 
>>> device.  They send you the Apple Store Gift Card by eMail once they’ve 
>>> received and verified your device condition and specs.  I’ve never actually 
>>> done this with a Mac, as each time I entered my specs, it was not worth any 
>>> cash to me.  Silly things last too long, I guess.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 12, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Ian Harrison >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order 
 to buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t 
 go to the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, 
 how long do I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the 
 necessary packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the 
 value they offer?
 
 I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the 
 store terms and conditions.
 
 With thanks
 Ian
 
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Hmmph.  Interesting.  I tried a year ago with a 2012 iMac with 16 GB RAM and 
was offered $0.  Lucky you.  I guess that it’s always good to check for 
yourself.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 12, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I just ordered a new Mac mini and it is on the way.
> I am getting $150 USD for my current 2012 mini, which will be applied to my 
> credit card/Apple Pay used to purchase the new mini.  I am being sent a kit 
> to send in the old mini.  Shipping is being paid by Apple or whoever is the 
> subcontractor.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2020, at 10:54, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> To add to Julie’s comments, the iPhone and iPad seem to retain their value 
> longer and thus are more likely to give you some extra towards a new Apple 
> device.  I have used this system with both iPhone and iPad, and was pleased.  
> The Mac is a different story.  As I mentioned, past about five or six years 
> old, you’re not going to really get anything for it.  It may still work for 
> you, or someone else, but the reseller that is purchasing it does not believe 
> that the effort they may need to put into it is worth giving you any amount.  
> Usually, they’ll take it for free and recycle it if you wish, but other than 
> that, no cash value.  It may be a little different across the big pond, but 
> here in North America, the shipping was free, at least for the iPhone and 
> iPad.  I’m not sure for the Mac as I never bothered going any further than 
> the initial investigation.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Julie Rattray > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I think this is the issue if you look on the apple app it will give you 
>> estimates for any apple products registered to your Apple ID and really if 
>> the model is too old they don’t want it and even newish ones don’t generate 
>> that much so it depends on what you want to trade.
>> 
>> I am not sure about what happens after you decide to do it as like Tim never 
>> bothered as it wasn’t worth the postage etc  
>> 
>>> On 12 May 2020, at 16:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Search for Apple Trade-In for Mac or Apple Trade-In for iPhone.  Pages 
>>> should come up that you can use.  It is a third party purchaser contracted 
>>> by Apple to provide this service.  The form is mostly accessible, although 
>>> a little frustrating at times.  For iPhone and iPad, you fill out the forms 
>>> on-line, then you can either use your own packing boxes or they’ll send you 
>>> one.  Your estimated value is given to you prior to them receiving the 
>>> device.  They send you the Apple Store Gift Card by eMail once they’ve 
>>> received and verified your device condition and specs.  I’ve never actually 
>>> done this with a Mac, as each time I entered my specs, it was not worth any 
>>> cash to me.  Silly things last too long, I guess.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 12, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Ian Harrison >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order 
 to buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t 
 go to the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, 
 how long do I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the 
 necessary packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the 
 value they offer?
 
 I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the 
 store terms and conditions.
 
 With thanks
 Ian
 
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Re: Downloading a video from youtube

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
I use ClipGrab,
www.ClipGrab.org 



> On May 12, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Can you recommend a way to download a video from youtube on my iMac so that I 
> can play it via Zoom without advertisements? I only need to do this rarely 
> and so ideally want  a free or low cost way to do it.
> I have tried some of  the approaches from a Google search but find them most 
> confusing.
> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

[Brad Snyder]

I just ordered a new Mac mini and it is on the way.
I am getting $150 USD for my current 2012 mini, which will be applied to my 
credit card/Apple Pay used to purchase the new mini.  I am being sent a kit to 
send in the old mini.  Shipping is being paid by Apple or whoever is the 
subcontractor.

- Brad -




On May 12, 2020, at 10:54, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

To add to Julie’s comments, the iPhone and iPad seem to retain their value 
longer and thus are more likely to give you some extra towards a new Apple 
device.  I have used this system with both iPhone and iPad, and was pleased.  
The Mac is a different story.  As I mentioned, past about five or six years 
old, you’re not going to really get anything for it.  It may still work for 
you, or someone else, but the reseller that is purchasing it does not believe 
that the effort they may need to put into it is worth giving you any amount.  
Usually, they’ll take it for free and recycle it if you wish, but other than 
that, no cash value.  It may be a little different across the big pond, but 
here in North America, the shipping was free, at least for the iPhone and iPad. 
 I’m not sure for the Mac as I never bothered going any further than the 
initial investigation.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 12, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Julie Rattray  > wrote:
> 
> Yes I think this is the issue if you look on the apple app it will give you 
> estimates for any apple products registered to your Apple ID and really if 
> the model is too old they don’t want it and even newish ones don’t generate 
> that much so it depends on what you want to trade.
> 
> I am not sure about what happens after you decide to do it as like Tim never 
> bothered as it wasn’t worth the postage etc  
> 
>> On 12 May 2020, at 16:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Search for Apple Trade-In for Mac or Apple Trade-In for iPhone.  Pages 
>> should come up that you can use.  It is a third party purchaser contracted 
>> by Apple to provide this service.  The form is mostly accessible, although a 
>> little frustrating at times.  For iPhone and iPad, you fill out the forms 
>> on-line, then you can either use your own packing boxes or they’ll send you 
>> one.  Your estimated value is given to you prior to them receiving the 
>> device.  They send you the Apple Store Gift Card by eMail once they’ve 
>> received and verified your device condition and specs.  I’ve never actually 
>> done this with a Mac, as each time I entered my specs, it was not worth any 
>> cash to me.  Silly things last too long, I guess.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Ian Harrison >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order 
>>> to buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t 
>>> go to the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, 
>>> how long do I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the 
>>> necessary packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the 
>>> value they offer?
>>> 
>>> I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the 
>>> store terms and conditions.
>>> 
>>> With thanks
>>> Ian
>>> 
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so ideally want  a free or low cost way to do it.
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

To add to Julie’s comments, the iPhone and iPad seem to retain their value 
longer and thus are more likely to give you some extra towards a new Apple 
device.  I have used this system with both iPhone and iPad, and was pleased.  
The Mac is a different story.  As I mentioned, past about five or six years 
old, you’re not going to really get anything for it.  It may still work for 
you, or someone else, but the reseller that is purchasing it does not believe 
that the effort they may need to put into it is worth giving you any amount.  
Usually, they’ll take it for free and recycle it if you wish, but other than 
that, no cash value.  It may be a little different across the big pond, but 
here in North America, the shipping was free, at least for the iPhone and iPad. 
 I’m not sure for the Mac as I never bothered going any further than the 
initial investigation.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 12, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> Yes I think this is the issue if you look on the apple app it will give you 
> estimates for any apple products registered to your Apple ID and really if 
> the model is too old they don’t want it and even newish ones don’t generate 
> that much so it depends on what you want to trade.
> 
> I am not sure about what happens after you decide to do it as like Tim never 
> bothered as it wasn’t worth the postage etc  
> 
>> On 12 May 2020, at 16:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Search for Apple Trade-In for Mac or Apple Trade-In for iPhone.  Pages 
>> should come up that you can use.  It is a third party purchaser contracted 
>> by Apple to provide this service.  The form is mostly accessible, although a 
>> little frustrating at times.  For iPhone and iPad, you fill out the forms 
>> on-line, then you can either use your own packing boxes or they’ll send you 
>> one.  Your estimated value is given to you prior to them receiving the 
>> device.  They send you the Apple Store Gift Card by eMail once they’ve 
>> received and verified your device condition and specs.  I’ve never actually 
>> done this with a Mac, as each time I entered my specs, it was not worth any 
>> cash to me.  Silly things last too long, I guess.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Ian Harrison >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order 
>>> to buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t 
>>> go to the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, 
>>> how long do I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the 
>>> necessary packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the 
>>> value they offer?
>>> 
>>> I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the 
>>> store terms and conditions.
>>> 
>>> With thanks
>>> Ian
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

[Julie Rattray]

Yes I think this is the issue if you look on the apple app it will give you 
estimates for any apple products registered to your Apple ID and really if the 
model is too old they don’t want it and even newish ones don’t generate that 
much so it depends on what you want to trade.

I am not sure about what happens after you decide to do it as like Tim never 
bothered as it wasn’t worth the postage etc  

> On 12 May 2020, at 16:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Search for Apple Trade-In for Mac or Apple Trade-In for iPhone.  Pages should 
> come up that you can use.  It is a third party purchaser contracted by Apple 
> to provide this service.  The form is mostly accessible, although a little 
> frustrating at times.  For iPhone and iPad, you fill out the forms on-line, 
> then you can either use your own packing boxes or they’ll send you one.  Your 
> estimated value is given to you prior to them receiving the device.  They 
> send you the Apple Store Gift Card by eMail once they’ve received and 
> verified your device condition and specs.  I’ve never actually done this with 
> a Mac, as each time I entered my specs, it was not worth any cash to me.  
> Silly things last too long, I guess.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Ian Harrison > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order to 
>> buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t go 
>> to the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, how 
>> long do I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the 
>> necessary packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the value 
>> they offer?
>> 
>> I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the 
>> store terms and conditions.
>> 
>> With thanks
>> Ian
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Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
But tell siri to play some music has there issues.
At least here in Sweden.
/A

> 12 maj 2020 kl. 00:11 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Yes, I’m the same, don’t use Siri for a lot at all. But there are plenty out 
> there that use it a lot and even rely on it. And why not, as long as people 
> are using the tools on the iPhone or iPad that suits their needs and getting 
> the job done. I wasn’t aiming that comment at you. 
> 
>> On 11/05/2020, at 19:40, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Petrus,
>>  
>> The only thing I use siri for is to make a phone call.
>>  
>> Just a siri call xyz.
>>  
>> Can’t be bothered trying to use ti for other things.
>>  
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 8:33 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?
>>  
>> That’s what I like about this list, instructions are normally given in 
>> manual gestures. I’m on an NZ based iPhone list and a lot of the members on 
>> there heavily rely on Siri to do most of  their iPhone and iPad functions. 
>> Not that there is anything wrong in that, the good thing with Apple is it 
>> gives you lots of options to achieve the same thing. Personally I never used 
>> Siri when I first got my phone or iPad  as I wanted to learn how to do it 
>> myself.  But  you could also ask Siri to place the FaceTime call for you. 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/05/2020, at 02:50, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> After pressing the Add button, enter the phone number that you wish to call 
>> with FaceTime Audio, then press return on the keyboard.  Go back up to the 
>> entry field and swipe right past the Add Contact button.  There will be 
>> buttons for Audio and Video calling.  Double-tap whichever you wish and the 
>> call should be placed.
>>  
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2020, at 7:09 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject line says it all. I Googled this and found something that said you 
>> click on the plus sign at the top of the screen, which I assume is referring 
>> to the Add button. But that just adds the contact to call, I don’t see an 
>> option for Facetime audio. Anyone know how to do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Search for Apple Trade-In for Mac or Apple Trade-In for iPhone.  Pages should 
come up that you can use.  It is a third party purchaser contracted by Apple to 
provide this service.  The form is mostly accessible, although a little 
frustrating at times.  For iPhone and iPad, you fill out the forms on-line, 
then you can either use your own packing boxes or they’ll send you one.  Your 
estimated value is given to you prior to them receiving the device.  They send 
you the Apple Store Gift Card by eMail once they’ve received and verified your 
device condition and specs.  I’ve never actually done this with a Mac, as each 
time I entered my specs, it was not worth any cash to me.  Silly things last 
too long, I guess.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 12, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order to 
> buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t go to 
> the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, how long 
> do I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the necessary 
> packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the value they offer?
> 
> I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the 
> store terms and conditions.
> 
> With thanks
> Ian
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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Ian,

About 3 years back, when Apple stores were open to go into, I traded in 2 
Iphones and an Ipad. The only thing I was able to do in the store was let them 
wipe all the data and personal information off of my devices. The trade-ins had 
to be done by mailing them in. And if I am recalling correctly, there was also 
an on-line form that had to be completed before they sent the mailing cartons 
and related paperwork that had to get packaged with each specific device.

Depending on the condition of the device(s) they will then mail you some dollar 
amount back in the form of Apple gift cards. 
In my case I wanted to upgrade my phone, but because the phones I was trading 
in had to get wiped clean and shipped to them, I could not apply the gift cards 
towards my new purchase since I did not want to be without my cell-phone 
service during the interim. I wound up putting the gift cards towards Apple 
TV’s. So they keep you coming back to them no matter what.

Eileen


From: Ian Harrison 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:40 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries ; 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone ; 
applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

Hi all,

I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order to 
buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t go to 
the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, how long do 
I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the necessary 
packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the value they offer?

I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the store 
terms and conditions.

With thanks
Ian

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Re: Voice over speed

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   This change. Add the shift key.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/12/2020 6:14 AM, Ian Harrison wrote:

Hi again,
I am now using Catalina. I used to be able to adjust the voice over speed on 
the fly using the arrow keys and modifiers. I can’t seem to find that any more. 
Any suggestions? I have looked at the rotor in Web settings but speech rate is 
not in there. I’m sure it used to be.
Thanks
Ian



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Voice over speed

[Ian Harrison]

Hi again,
I am now using Catalina. I used to be able to adjust the voice over speed on 
the fly using the arrow keys and modifiers. I can’t seem to find that any more. 
Any suggestions? I have looked at the rotor in Web settings but speech rate is 
not in there. I’m sure it used to be.
Thanks
Ian

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Re: Body Cams

[Phil Halton]

Knocking over old people, stepping on little children, just the other day I 
went into my local hospital and the greeter was very concerned that my white 
cane might injure the other people in the hospital. so, I tapped her on her 
ankle a few times to show her that it didn’t hurt. i’d like to see a project 
that collects stories from the blind of their dealings with the public. I know 
I’ve got quite a few.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 12, 2020, at 8:52 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> This is what I was thinking about.
> https://www.letsenvision.com/glasse
> Any other solutions?
> These may be a bit proprietary!
> Love the clip on idea though.
> Thanks
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>> Do you mean something like the google glasses?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 8:18 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Body Cams
>> 
>> Hi Guys,
>> What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
>> May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your 
>> hole body towards the shot?
>> What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you 
>> can turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
>> I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
>> People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :) And 
>> last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as they 
>> go by!
>> The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
>> just a address for the code infractions! ;) YMMV Chuck "God does not play 
>> dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog 
>>> is dealing with the public sometimes.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Phil,
 Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
 
 I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
 who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems 
 are right here in my apartment complex.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
 true?
 
> On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
> Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it 
> sightseeing? Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl 
> over some little old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m 
> really curious, and that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you 
> are thinking, it might be an interesting idea to try out here.
> Sent from my IPhone
>>> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
>> anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and 
>> will allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
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Re: Body Cams

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Simon,

This is what I was thinking about.
https://www.letsenvision.com/glasse
Any other solutions?
These may be a bit proprietary!
Love the clip on idea though.
Thanks
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
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On May 12, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

> Do you mean something like the google glasses?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 8:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Body Cams
> 
> Hi Guys,
> What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
> May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your 
> hole body towards the shot?
> What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you 
> can turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
> I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
> People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :) And 
> last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as they 
> go by!
> The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
> just a address for the code infractions! ;) YMMV Chuck "God does not play 
> dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog 
>> is dealing with the public sometimes.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Phil,
>>> Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
>>> 
>>> I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
>>> who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
>>> right here in my apartment complex.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
 On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
 Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it 
 sightseeing? Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl 
 over some little old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m 
 really curious, and that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you 
 are thinking, it might be an interesting idea to try out here.
 Sent from my IPhone
>> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
> anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and 
> will allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
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Re: To keep my iPhone 11, or go for the iPhone SE

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That’s interesting. How many phones do you have? Which ones do you use for what 
activities?

So far I can’t shake the feeling that I’m giving up the “good” phone for the 
inferior one, so I haven’t done it. But we get really good pricing through the 
university where we work, so the SE with 256GB would only cost me $100. So 
having both, at least for a while, would be an option worth thinking about.
Cheers,
Donna


Sent from my iPad

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Sandie Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> I am using diffrent phones for, diffrent things, even an android, yes you 
> heard me right. I am most likely going to get a SE. it should be better than 
> my 7, and why not the 7 says it needs its battery changed, so now is a good 
> time as ever too do it.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 11 May 2020, at 22.33, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I want an I phone with Touch ID and Face ID at the same time so I have a 
>> choice of using Touch ID or Face ID.  Touch ID needs to be under the glass.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
 On 10 May 2020, at 15:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, listers,
>>> 
>>> I'm mostly just posting this for fun. Obviously this is more about 
>>> subjective preference, but I am nonetheless curious about others opinions.
>>> 
>>> I've never really paid any attention to the iPhone SE, but  since reading 
>>> the following article,
>>> https://doubletap.online/opinion-the-blind-iphone-is-back I have been 
>>> thinking seriously about "downgrading" from my iPhone 11 to the new SE. I 
>>> love the idea of the smaller form factor, and, though I've gotten used to 
>>> face ID, wouldn't at all mind just having a home button again. Neither of 
>>> these things in and of themselves would have gotten me to switch, but the 
>>> fact that I could get those things and get a phone with the A13 processor 
>>> is very intriguing. My one reservation is that the SE will not have as good 
>>> an upgrade path as the 11, which I mostly care about if Apple comes out 
>>> with a 5G phone next fall. Thoughts?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

[Ian Harrison]

Hi all,

I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order to 
buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t go to 
the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, how long do 
I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the necessary 
packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the value they offer?

I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the store 
terms and conditions.

With thanks
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Scanning solution

[Ian Harrison]

Hi listers,

I need to get a scanner for photos and A4 documents. Wireless would be nice but 
not if expensive. The main project is a load of photos my wife has but doesn’t 
have the time to scan them herself. Therefore it is my job to do the tedious 
task and it would be nice to have simple software that could detect the edges 
of the photos automatically and prefereably be voice over accessible. Any 
suggestions?

Thanks
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RE: Body Cams

[Simon A Fogarty]

Do you mean something like the google glasses?



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 8:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Body Cams

Hi Guys,
What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your hole 
body towards the shot?
What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you can 
turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :) And last 
but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as they go by!
The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
just a address for the code infractions! ;) YMMV Chuck "God does not play dice 
with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

> Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog 
> is dealing with the public sometimes.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil,
>>  Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
>> 
>>  I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
>> who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
>> right here in my apartment complex.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>>> On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? 
>>> Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little 
>>> old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and 
>>> that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might 
>>> be an interesting idea to try out here.
>>> Sent from my IPhone
> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
 anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will 
 allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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