Re: Downloading Skype for My MacBook-Pro2017

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Fazil. Once you're in the finder, press Command+Option+L to get to the 
downloads folder. Find Skype. It might be in a DMG folder which stands for disk 
image so open it. Then you'll see the Skype app itself so do Command+C. 
Finally, open the applications folder with Command+Shift+A and paste skype with 
Command+V. HTH.

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 9:31 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Thanks much! I don’t know where Download Folder is located and how to access 
> it and samething is true for Application Folder.
> Any help is much appreciated!
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 6:22 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Downloading Skype for My MacBook-Pro2017
>  
> Go to http://skype.com  and look for the link that says 
> download. Click on it and find the one for Mac. Once it downloads you can 
> find it in the downloads folder. Open the file with the context menu and move 
> the app in there into the apps folder. You can then open it from there and 
> follow prompts.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 18:55, Fazil > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, group.
>> I don’t know much about Mac Downloading but I would like to download Skype 
>> for Mac.
>> Can someone send me the direct download link to Skype? If not, please tell 
>> me how to download it, please?
>> Thanks!
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RE: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iPhone

[Marco Curralejo]

Sorry I completely disagree with statements like "it causes problems when" etc. 
It's clear to me that certain individuals are not using it for when it is 
required.

It's best to use it only when you have too, not all the time.

It is also best to enable it in your rotor so you can easily get to it when you 
need to turn it on or off.

Finally, try using it for instance in an app like Telegram. Without it, the app 
is virtually useless, but with it, the app becomes far more accessible and you 
can perform functions easily.

Statements like that it causes problems etc is, in my opinion, a very open one 
and it's important to actually only use it when you need to and to have it 
turned off for most other situations, not have it turned on all the time. This 
feature was never designed for that.

Thanks,

Marco

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 5:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

I have to agree with Brett hear about the screen recognition feature. I have 
found it to do nothing but cause problems with apps and Safari. It may have a 
future but currently it really screws up the performance of apps and the 
Internet. I would definitely try turning it off completely from within 
voiceover/voice recognition settings. Image descriptions on the other hand are 
somewhat useful and don’t cause performance problems at all.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
> This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
> Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the 
> rotor and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s 
> part of your rotor.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically 
>> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO 
>> does not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that 
>> it's there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when 
>> there's nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys 
>> show, nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons 
>> at the bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are 
>> just announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for 
>> forward and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
>> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for 
>> those buttons do look different to normal.
>> 
>> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of 
>> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that 
>> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and 
>> goes wrong/odd again.
>> 
>> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari, 
>> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
>> 
>> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
>> 
>> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
>> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference 
>> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally 
>> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm 
>> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me 
>> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also 
>> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
>> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
>> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't 
>> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think 
>> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter 
>> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it 
>> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change 
>> options relating to that adapter?
>> 
>> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
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Re: Launchbar

[Christina]

I'm not familiar with launch bar. What is it and does it have clipboard 
history? Also, can it use it to make shortcuts to files and folders etc? 
Thanks. Christina

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Emilio  wrote:
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> I cannot speak to the accessibility of Alfred. I know its usable, but 
> personally I like LaunchBar, so I’m bias.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 2:26:11 PM UTC-6 ccwiner wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are 
> accessible? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Christina
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Re: duplicate files

[Christina]

Awesome, Thanks. I wondered about that app. Do you know if it also scans the 
files in DropBox. My Dropbox files show up in finder on my Mac. I believe I 
also have lots of duplicates in my DropBox, but I have no idea how to easily  
find them and delete duplicates.

Thanks,
Christina

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Emilio  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I use Hazel to check for duplicate files, and it automatically deletes 
> duplicates for me. Hazel generally has a trial period, so you can test to see 
> if the program would work for you. This is completely voiceover accessible. 
> Www.noodlesoft.com is the web site where you can download the program from.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 2:24:24 PM UTC-6 ccwiner wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> On the Mac, is there a built in tool or way to check your files for 
> duplicates or can anyone recommend an accessible Mac app to do this. I 
> suspect I have lots of duplicate files and I need to make more space. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Christina
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Re: duplicate files

[Emilio]

I use Hazel to check for duplicate files, and it automatically deletes 
duplicates for me. Hazel generally has a trial period, so you can test to 
see if the program would work for you. This is completely voiceover 
accessible. Www.noodlesoft.com is the web site where you can download the 
program from.

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 2:24:24 PM UTC-6 ccwiner wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On the Mac, is there a built in tool or way to check your files for 
> duplicates or can anyone recommend an accessible Mac app to do this. I 
> suspect I have lots of duplicate files and I need to make more space.
>
> Thanks,
> Christina

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RE: Launchbar

[Emilio]

I cannot speak to the accessibility of Alfred. I know its usable, but 
personally I like LaunchBar, so I’m bias.

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 2:26:11 PM UTC-6 ccwiner wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are 
> accessible?
>
> Thanks,
> Christina

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Re: duplicate files

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

My understanding (which may be wrong) is that, by default, copying a file on the APFS file system does not duplicate the data, and therefore does not use significantly more disk space. APFS is a “copy-on-write” file system, which means that the data are copied only when the duplicate file is modified. On 1/10/21, 15:24, "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com"  wrote:Hi, On the Mac, is there a built in tool or way to check your files for duplicates or can anyone recommend an accessible Mac app to do this. I suspect I have lots of duplicate files and I need to make more space. Thanks,Christina -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/84A351F7-F961-485C-8F46-D09B011B6DE6%40gmail.com. 



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Clipboard manager for Mac

[Christina]

Hi,

Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are 
accessible?

Thanks,
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duplicate files

[Christina]

Hi,

On the Mac, is there a built in tool or way to check your files for duplicates 
or can anyone recommend an accessible Mac app to do this. I suspect I have lots 
of duplicate files and I need to make more space.

Thanks,
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Alfred

[Christina]

Hi, Does anyone know if the Alfred app is accessible. I'm also interested in 
it's clipboard  history.

Here's a link. https://www.alfredapp.com


Thanks,
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Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

[Phil Halton]

I have to agree with Brett hear about the screen recognition feature. I have 
found it to do nothing but cause problems with apps and Safari. It may have a 
future but currently it really screws up the performance of apps and the 
Internet. I would definitely try turning it off completely from within 
voiceover/voice recognition settings. Image descriptions on the other hand are 
somewhat useful and don’t cause performance problems at all.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
> This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
> Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the 
> rotor and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s 
> part of your rotor.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
>> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
>> not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
>> there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
>> nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
>> nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
>> bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
>> announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
>> and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
>> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
>> those buttons do look different to normal.
>> 
>> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
>> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
>> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
>> goes wrong/odd again.
>> 
>> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
>> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
>> 
>> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
>> 
>> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
>> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
>> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
>> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
>> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
>> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
>> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
>> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
>> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
>> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
>> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
>> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
>> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
>> options relating to that adapter?
>> 
>> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
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Re: Mac mail, stopping the message from being read?

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Didn’t have that problem in Catalina, someone from another list gave me a fix, 
just can’t remember it right now.


> On Jan 8, 2021, at 11:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Exactly.  Same thing you decided when you were using Catalina.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 22:35, 'Stur It Up Productions' via MacVisionaries 
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> Looks to much like classic view.  I will just deal with it.
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>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
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>> Try using Column Layout, just like in Catalina.
>> 
>> - Brad -
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>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:40, 'Stur It Up Productions' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Already done. Still reads
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
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>>> Mail Preferences
>>> Viewing
>>> List Preview - Set to None
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
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>>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 7:41 AM, 'Stur It Up Productions' via MacVisionaries 
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 Can’t never remember how this is suppose to be done.  I have preview in 
 mail turned off, but VoiceOver still reads part of the message.  How do we 
 stop this?  Thanks.
 
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Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the rotor 
and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s part of 
your rotor.
Hope that helps.


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
> not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
> there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
> nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
> nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
> bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
> announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
> and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
> those buttons do look different to normal.
> 
> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
> goes wrong/odd again.
> 
> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
> 
> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
> 
> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
> options relating to that adapter?
> 
> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Keyboard command in Pages

[Kerryann Ifill]

 Hi all:

The keyboard command to add  a new page is command+enter in Pages.  However, it 
does not work! Any suggestions?

Thanks loads
Kerry

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Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

['Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
those buttons do look different to normal.

If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
goes wrong/odd again.

I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.

Does this ring any bells for anyone?

I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
options relating to that adapter?

If not, I guess it's a phone reset...

Thanks,
Catherine

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