Re: Accessible robot vacuum cleaners.
The roomba app is very accessible, but Roomba's navigation is behind the times, it uses a camera for navigation instead of Lidar, I would suggest something from Roborock, app is accessible and much better robots. > On Nov 24, 2023, at 11:30 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > iRobot Roomba app is very accessible. > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician > dgcarlson0...@gmail.com > > > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 3:02 AM, Steve Z. wrote: > > Hi list, first of all, I’m sorry for the off-topic question. > I would like to know which robot vacuum cleaner is accessible with voiceover, > since they all use apps, and how much accessible. for example, what we can, > and cannot do. > Thanks in advance > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/17519B4F-AD95-4F07-9234-18EF8DA1A3F1%40gmail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/21501A78-3DAC-492D-B72D-68929E79B299%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8D872EDC-7369-49DA-9FAF-AF7AF648D89A%40charter.net.
Re: alert sounds
Hi Lorie, unfortunately not. The only tones that are changeable, are your message tones and ringtones. Joseph Hudson EmailFaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@twc.com Connect with me on zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09 > On Nov 25, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > is there a way to change the alert tones for different apps? in particular > telegram and Signal have the same alert tone and I want to change that so I > know which one I'm getting the notification from. > > thanks. > Lorie > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9A48F4E6-BE7E-460D-8FEE-81AA1E4DCD6B%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C7F362EB-2A5A-479E-B905-3D5FA89DE4FA%40twc.com.
alert sounds
is there a way to change the alert tones for different apps? in particular telegram and Signal have the same alert tone and I want to change that so I know which one I'm getting the notification from. thanks. Lorie Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9A48F4E6-BE7E-460D-8FEE-81AA1E4DCD6B%40gmail.com.
Re: Can I stop the double-finger double-tap from playing music in iOS 16?
On 25/11/23 10:29, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, I've not been wanting Apple to change the magic tap behavior for everyone else; I've just been wanting the ability to adjust what functions it can do on my own phone, much as we can do for the power button. You can't adjust it, as far as I know. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/386faa9c-0bf2-4272-95cf-499067d597bc%40jasonjgw.net.
Re: Can I stop the double-finger double-tap from playing music in iOS 16?
Ah, I've not been wanting Apple to change the magic tap behavior for everyone else; I've just been wanting the ability to adjust what functions it can do on my own phone, much as we can do for the power button. On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 09:15:31AM -0600, Brad Snyder wrote: I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting Apple to alter the behavior of the 2-finger Magic tap as you requested in your first message. I believe the gesture is performing as intended by Apple, and it is better for you to alter the method you use to start dictation. :) - Brad - On Nov 25, 2023, at 08:59, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, the Start Dictation button. I used that years ago but forgot about the option by now. Might try that at least until Apple addresses the focus issue when sending messages that I mentioned in my first message on this thread. On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 08:41:15AM -0600, Brad Snyder wrote: Hello Doug, The solution to your dilemma is relatively simple. Rather than use the two finger magic tap to begin dictation, locate the microphone button on the bottom row of the keyboard. Once focus is on this button, do a one finger double tap to begin dictation. You may then use a two finger double tap to stop dictation when you are done speaking. This is the method I have been using as long as I have been using an iPhone with voiceover, and find it works 99.9% of the time without issue. HTH. - Brad - On Nov 24, 2023, at 21:15, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, good to know without making a mess to find out. :) Last question then: Is there an easier way to clear the playback controls from the lock screen? Currently I load and then close the Music app to get that done. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 07:11:12PM -0800, Dave Carlson wrote: Doug, No. Don’t delete the app. The unfortunate answer is that whatever media is remaining will. Play as default. You can see what that is if you go to the control center and swipe to media to see what’s I the queue. Only answer is to use another media (audio books, podcast, YouTube video, etc.) as your last thing played, and that will live in the queue until replaced by something else. Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On Nov 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Do you know if any possible good for me, or bad, would come from my deleting the Music app? That was my only guess before asking, but I haven't tried that yet and I also have never had reason to check what happens if I later want it back, unlikely though that probably is. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:55:58PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi Doug, As far as I know there is not a way to edit the functions of the magic tap gesture. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:53 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Kind of you to answer, and quickly indeed. I forgot the name "magic tap" somehow, but I do know it is a multi-function gesture. But my actual question is, can I somehow remove from its set of active functions the activation of the Music app and its controls, which happens even if I have no music to play in some cases. I don't use my phone for music; I use other devices for that. When I think focus is in an edit field but it's not, I know the gesture will not activate dictation. But I'm asking how to keep the gesture, at that time, from instead activating Music controls, and sound if there's anything to play. Thanks again. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:44:38PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi, The two finger gesture you are referring to is known as a magic tap. The reason for this is that it does several things. It will answer or hang up a call, it will start and stop dictation, and it will start and stop media from playing. If you want to use it for dictation you will need to be sure the edit field, whether a text message or an email or something else, is activated. If it isn't and you perform the to finger double tap then that is when your media such as music will start playing. I hope that helps, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Doug Lee wrote: I am using iOS 16 because I have an iPhone X, but I think what follows also applies to iOS 17. As of an update or few ago, there is a sequence I commonly perform which results in surprise music; so I am wanting to know how to stop the double-finger double-tap from starting music playback. I have two reasons: First of course to avoid startling myself and sometimes interfering with
Re: Can I stop the double-finger double-tap from playing music in iOS 16?
I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting Apple to alter the behavior of the 2-finger Magic tap as you requested in your first message. I believe the gesture is performing as intended by Apple, and it is better for you to alter the method you use to start dictation. :) - Brad - On Nov 25, 2023, at 08:59, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, the Start Dictation button. I used that years ago but forgot about the option by now. Might try that at least until Apple addresses the focus issue when sending messages that I mentioned in my first message on this thread. On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 08:41:15AM -0600, Brad Snyder wrote: Hello Doug, The solution to your dilemma is relatively simple. Rather than use the two finger magic tap to begin dictation, locate the microphone button on the bottom row of the keyboard. Once focus is on this button, do a one finger double tap to begin dictation. You may then use a two finger double tap to stop dictation when you are done speaking. This is the method I have been using as long as I have been using an iPhone with voiceover, and find it works 99.9% of the time without issue. HTH. - Brad - On Nov 24, 2023, at 21:15, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, good to know without making a mess to find out. :) Last question then: Is there an easier way to clear the playback controls from the lock screen? Currently I load and then close the Music app to get that done. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 07:11:12PM -0800, Dave Carlson wrote: Doug, No. Don’t delete the app. The unfortunate answer is that whatever media is remaining will. Play as default. You can see what that is if you go to the control center and swipe to media to see what’s I the queue. Only answer is to use another media (audio books, podcast, YouTube video, etc.) as your last thing played, and that will live in the queue until replaced by something else. Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On Nov 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Do you know if any possible good for me, or bad, would come from my deleting the Music app? That was my only guess before asking, but I haven't tried that yet and I also have never had reason to check what happens if I later want it back, unlikely though that probably is. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:55:58PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi Doug, As far as I know there is not a way to edit the functions of the magic tap gesture. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:53 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Kind of you to answer, and quickly indeed. I forgot the name "magic tap" somehow, but I do know it is a multi-function gesture. But my actual question is, can I somehow remove from its set of active functions the activation of the Music app and its controls, which happens even if I have no music to play in some cases. I don't use my phone for music; I use other devices for that. When I think focus is in an edit field but it's not, I know the gesture will not activate dictation. But I'm asking how to keep the gesture, at that time, from instead activating Music controls, and sound if there's anything to play. Thanks again. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:44:38PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi, The two finger gesture you are referring to is known as a magic tap. The reason for this is that it does several things. It will answer or hang up a call, it will start and stop dictation, and it will start and stop media from playing. If you want to use it for dictation you will need to be sure the edit field, whether a text message or an email or something else, is activated. If it isn't and you perform the to finger double tap then that is when your media such as music will start playing. I hope that helps, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Doug Lee wrote: I am using iOS 16 because I have an iPhone X, but I think what follows also applies to iOS 17. As of an update or few ago, there is a sequence I commonly perform which results in surprise music; so I am wanting to know how to stop the double-finger double-tap from starting music playback. I have two reasons: First of course to avoid startling myself and sometimes interfering with dictation that I was actually trying to start. Also though, I don't want the music controls on my lock screen, as clearing them requires me to launch and then close the Music app. These controls appear on my lock screen even if there is no music to play, so just clearing my library will not fully solve this problem. The sequence that bites me so often, for anyone curious: * Open iMessage and activate a specific conversation. * Move to and double-tap the typing area. Focus should land in it but now often then
Re: Can I stop the double-finger double-tap from playing music in iOS 16?
Ah, the Start Dictation button. I used that years ago but forgot about the option by now. Might try that at least until Apple addresses the focus issue when sending messages that I mentioned in my first message on this thread. On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 08:41:15AM -0600, Brad Snyder wrote: Hello Doug, The solution to your dilemma is relatively simple. Rather than use the two finger magic tap to begin dictation, locate the microphone button on the bottom row of the keyboard. Once focus is on this button, do a one finger double tap to begin dictation. You may then use a two finger double tap to stop dictation when you are done speaking. This is the method I have been using as long as I have been using an iPhone with voiceover, and find it works 99.9% of the time without issue. HTH. - Brad - On Nov 24, 2023, at 21:15, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, good to know without making a mess to find out. :) Last question then: Is there an easier way to clear the playback controls from the lock screen? Currently I load and then close the Music app to get that done. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 07:11:12PM -0800, Dave Carlson wrote: Doug, No. Don’t delete the app. The unfortunate answer is that whatever media is remaining will. Play as default. You can see what that is if you go to the control center and swipe to media to see what’s I the queue. Only answer is to use another media (audio books, podcast, YouTube video, etc.) as your last thing played, and that will live in the queue until replaced by something else. Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On Nov 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Do you know if any possible good for me, or bad, would come from my deleting the Music app? That was my only guess before asking, but I haven't tried that yet and I also have never had reason to check what happens if I later want it back, unlikely though that probably is. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:55:58PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi Doug, As far as I know there is not a way to edit the functions of the magic tap gesture. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:53 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Kind of you to answer, and quickly indeed. I forgot the name "magic tap" somehow, but I do know it is a multi-function gesture. But my actual question is, can I somehow remove from its set of active functions the activation of the Music app and its controls, which happens even if I have no music to play in some cases. I don't use my phone for music; I use other devices for that. When I think focus is in an edit field but it's not, I know the gesture will not activate dictation. But I'm asking how to keep the gesture, at that time, from instead activating Music controls, and sound if there's anything to play. Thanks again. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:44:38PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi, The two finger gesture you are referring to is known as a magic tap. The reason for this is that it does several things. It will answer or hang up a call, it will start and stop dictation, and it will start and stop media from playing. If you want to use it for dictation you will need to be sure the edit field, whether a text message or an email or something else, is activated. If it isn't and you perform the to finger double tap then that is when your media such as music will start playing. I hope that helps, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Doug Lee wrote: I am using iOS 16 because I have an iPhone X, but I think what follows also applies to iOS 17. As of an update or few ago, there is a sequence I commonly perform which results in surprise music; so I am wanting to know how to stop the double-finger double-tap from starting music playback. I have two reasons: First of course to avoid startling myself and sometimes interfering with dictation that I was actually trying to start. Also though, I don't want the music controls on my lock screen, as clearing them requires me to launch and then close the Music app. These controls appear on my lock screen even if there is no music to play, so just clearing my library will not fully solve this problem. The sequence that bites me so often, for anyone curious: * Open iMessage and activate a specific conversation. * Move to and double-tap the typing area. Focus should land in it but now often then moves immediately to the last message. * Do a double-finger double-tap to start receiving dictation speech, assuming focus is where I put it. When it's not, I get the surprise. Any info most welcome. -- Doug Lee
Re: Can I stop the double-finger double-tap from playing music in iOS 16?
Hello Doug, The solution to your dilemma is relatively simple. Rather than use the two finger magic tap to begin dictation, locate the microphone button on the bottom row of the keyboard. Once focus is on this button, do a one finger double tap to begin dictation. You may then use a two finger double tap to stop dictation when you are done speaking. This is the method I have been using as long as I have been using an iPhone with voiceover, and find it works 99.9% of the time without issue. HTH. - Brad - On Nov 24, 2023, at 21:15, Doug Lee wrote: Ah, good to know without making a mess to find out. :) Last question then: Is there an easier way to clear the playback controls from the lock screen? Currently I load and then close the Music app to get that done. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 07:11:12PM -0800, Dave Carlson wrote: Doug, No. Don’t delete the app. The unfortunate answer is that whatever media is remaining will. Play as default. You can see what that is if you go to the control center and swipe to media to see what’s I the queue. Only answer is to use another media (audio books, podcast, YouTube video, etc.) as your last thing played, and that will live in the queue until replaced by something else. Dave Carlson Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar dgcarlson0...@gmail.com On Nov 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Do you know if any possible good for me, or bad, would come from my deleting the Music app? That was my only guess before asking, but I haven't tried that yet and I also have never had reason to check what happens if I later want it back, unlikely though that probably is. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:55:58PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi Doug, As far as I know there is not a way to edit the functions of the magic tap gesture. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:53 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Kind of you to answer, and quickly indeed. I forgot the name "magic tap" somehow, but I do know it is a multi-function gesture. But my actual question is, can I somehow remove from its set of active functions the activation of the Music app and its controls, which happens even if I have no music to play in some cases. I don't use my phone for music; I use other devices for that. When I think focus is in an edit field but it's not, I know the gesture will not activate dictation. But I'm asking how to keep the gesture, at that time, from instead activating Music controls, and sound if there's anything to play. Thanks again. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:44:38PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi, The two finger gesture you are referring to is known as a magic tap. The reason for this is that it does several things. It will answer or hang up a call, it will start and stop dictation, and it will start and stop media from playing. If you want to use it for dictation you will need to be sure the edit field, whether a text message or an email or something else, is activated. If it isn't and you perform the to finger double tap then that is when your media such as music will start playing. I hope that helps, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762 gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org On Nov 24, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Doug Lee wrote: I am using iOS 16 because I have an iPhone X, but I think what follows also applies to iOS 17. As of an update or few ago, there is a sequence I commonly perform which results in surprise music; so I am wanting to know how to stop the double-finger double-tap from starting music playback. I have two reasons: First of course to avoid startling myself and sometimes interfering with dictation that I was actually trying to start. Also though, I don't want the music controls on my lock screen, as clearing them requires me to launch and then close the Music app. These controls appear on my lock screen even if there is no music to play, so just clearing my library will not fully solve this problem. The sequence that bites me so often, for anyone curious: * Open iMessage and activate a specific conversation. * Move to and double-tap the typing area. Focus should land in it but now often then moves immediately to the last message. * Do a double-finger double-tap to start receiving dictation speech, assuming focus is where I put it. When it's not, I get the surprise. Any info most welcome. -- Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org "I honestly believe it is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so." - Josh Billings, 1818-1885 (in "Solemn Thoughts") -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or
Re: Accessible robot vacuum cleaners.
exactly. That is what I do with mine. It is taken to it like a Toyota land cruiser.Sent from my iPhoneOn 24 Nov 2023, at 21.43, joseph hudson wrote:It's really not even necessary to create a map. You can normally just shut off a room that you don't want vacuumed. Joseph HudsonEmailFaceTime/iMessagejhud7...@twc.comConnect with me on zoomhttps://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09 On Nov 24, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:I use Roborock and it works fine. Of course I’m not able to create a map on my own but I guess that’s pretty normal.All the bestJürgenAm 24.11.2023 um 18:53 schrieb joseph hudson :I second Dave's recommendation. It is very accessible. There is nothing that you can't do with that model. Some models of that vacuum now clean better than others. So please look at reviews and talk to sales clerks about what the best recommendation is before you purchase. Joseph HudsonEmailFaceTime/iMessagejhud7...@twc.comConnect with me on zoomhttps://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09 On Nov 24, 2023, at 5:02 AM, Steve Z. wrote:Hi list, first of all, I’m sorry for the off-topic question.I would like to know which robot vacuum cleaner is accessible with voiceover, since they all use apps, and how much accessible. for example, what we can, and cannot do.Thanks in advance-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/17519B4F-AD95-4F07-9234-18EF8DA1A3F1%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ED417520-1578-4A32-B8C2-5F597E6EB2AD%40twc.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D298A589-513B-449E-AC31-A04F814C8ED0%40fleger.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
