RE: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

['Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries]

Okay, thank you. I am totally turned off by Facebook and won’t sign up for 
anything FB. Thanks anyway.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 6:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

I have the metal Rayban glasses and they are of sort of every day usefulness 
including for the blind but not as specific in the kind of information as the 
Celeste classes. There is a good Facebook group called Blind uses of meta 
Rayban glasses which you might want to join even in advance of deciding whether 
to buy the glasses





On 26 Jun 2024, at 03:44, joseph hodge mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I had them then sent them back. For me they were super uncomfortable on my 
nose. Also meta-AI is not nearly as good as GPT! It’s probably in the middle 
between GEMINI and GPT.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:41 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



I’ll take a look at that. I was hoping to get some input from someone who might 
be using them.

 

Thanks.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Patrick Ford' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

Hi, if you go to meta.com you could read all about the Ray-Ban Maya Smart 
glasses. They’re also sold at Amazon. There’s a few different styles I believe 
three styles there are $300 with some of the colors and newer styles. go up in 
price to about 379 I believe but the beta site will tell you all the prices. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for 
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot 
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has 
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind 
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple 
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I’ve looked on line and it lists 
specs, but I’m not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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RE: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

['Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks for the input. I think these are not what I thought they were and not 
for me.

 

Eileen 

 

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Behalf Of joseph hodge
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 10:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

I had them then sent them back. For me they were super uncomfortable on my 
nose. Also meta-AI is not nearly as good as GPT! It’s probably in the middle 
between GEMINI and GPT.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:41 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



I’ll take a look at that. I was hoping to get some input from someone who might 
be using them.

 

Thanks.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Patrick Ford' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

Hi, if you go to meta.com you could read all about the Ray-Ban Maya Smart 
glasses. They’re also sold at Amazon. There’s a few different styles I believe 
three styles there are $300 with some of the colors and newer styles. go up in 
price to about 379 I believe but the beta site will tell you all the prices. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
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wrote:



Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for 
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot 
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has 
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind 
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple 
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I’ve looked on line and it lists 
specs, but I’m not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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RE: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

['Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries]

I’ll take a look at that. I was hoping to get some input from someone who might 
be using them.

 

Thanks.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Patrick Ford' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

Hi, if you go to meta.com you could read all about the Ray-Ban Maya Smart 
glasses. They’re also sold at Amazon. There’s a few different styles I believe 
three styles there are $300 with some of the colors and newer styles. go up in 
price to about 379 I believe but the beta site will tell you all the prices. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
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wrote:



Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for 
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot 
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has 
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind 
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple 
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I’ve looked on line and it lists 
specs, but I’m not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

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Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I've looked on line and it
lists specs, but I'm not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

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Hi Matthew,

Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories table, 
then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the settings 
and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set commands for a 
display.

HTH.

Eileen

From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac

Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands 
for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the 
commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this 
option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
applications? 
Thanks.




  God bless.
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Re: apps library again

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Just in case it was one of those things you got into by accident, it happens 
when you flick your way down on the page numbers that are given just above your 
doc. When you flick one last time, past the last/highest number of pages, bingo 
you put yourself into the App library.

Eileen

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Subject: Re: apps library again

Thank you Eileen. Yes this did occur - I wasn’t sure how it reversed itself but 
with your explanation I understand. 
Thanks so much.
Patrick 

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  Patrick,

  It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app 
switcher and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the screen 
where the App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or gesture 
brings you back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard layout of 
the home screen.

  HTH.

  Eileen

  From: Patrick Ford 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: apps library again

  Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way 
the apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: apps library again

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Patrick,

It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app switcher 
and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the screen where the 
App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or gesture brings you 
back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard layout of the home 
screen.

HTH.

Eileen

From: Patrick Ford 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: apps library again

Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way the 
apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: Recovering data from iPads

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Michael,

I am not sure what your solution might be, but you have one thing on your side 
which is you at least know the Apple Id. If you try doing a reset on either the 
password or passcode the device might send a text message to confirm the 
change. The question is where will it send that code – if its one of the locked 
devices then you’re still in the same problem. Have you tried calling Apple 
accessibility to see what they might suggest.

Apple was helpful to me when my husband passed, but then I knew the codes to 
his Apple stuff.

Eileen

From: Michael Busboom 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:03 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Recovering data from iPads

Hello everyone,

Recently a very close friend of mine died, and I inherited two iPads that he 
and his wife owned.  One of the iPads is three years old, and the other is five 
or six years old.  On one of the iPads, there are apparently a lot of pictures 
that family members would like to have, provided I can gain access to them and 
send them.

Here are my problems and questions:

Although I have the Apple user IDs for the iPads, I do not have the passwords 
or unlock codes.  Since I didn’t know that I would one day be getting the 
iPads, I never asked for them, prior to my friend’s death  Is there any way for 
me to recover their pictures?

If there is no way to gain access to the content of these iPads, how do I do a 
complete reset and start setting them up for my own personal use, using my 
current Apple ID?  I have never done a complete restore to an iPad, but I do 
back up my iPhone to the Cloud regularly.  If someone can refer me to a podcast 
that addresses these issues, that’d be great.

With gratitude for any thoughts and best wishes for 2021,

Mike 

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Herbie,

As John describes in that message below, prior to the Big Sur update that is 
exactly how it worked for me – just and easy swipe or VO-left/right and press 
the accept button. Now, with the update to Big Sur there is no simple way to 
just navigate to the accept button when the call comes in.

Eileen
From: Herbie Allen 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

Ever since updating to Big Sur, my VO focus has  never been in focus for 
FaceTime calls. 



  On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:01, John Panarese  wrote:

If the focus is on the window, you should be able to VO-arrow to the, 
accept, button and then VO-space. If you have to use the notification center to 
answer, then use the approach I mentioned before. Usually, for me, the 
VoiceOver focus is right in the FaceTime call window and I just have to 
navigate to the, accept, button. 


  Take Care

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On Dec 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

John,

Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps after 
doing a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call comes 
through do it right where the VO focus is at?

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

  VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the options. 
You can then VO-spacebar. 



Take Care

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  On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Hello All,

  Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been able 
to answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes me 
to the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

  Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, 
is it a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

  I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told 
that I really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather 
wait a year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track 
pad or VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

  Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications since 
I could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech support. 

  Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

  Eileen

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Okay, I won’t be using it until after the New year so will try it all out then. 
Thanks again.

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 1:14 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

   It’s hit or miss. I’m not sure if it’s based on what you are doing at the 
moment, but sometimes, the focus is in the window for me, sometimes it’s not. I 
haven’t paid enough attention yet to figure out that mystery yet. 


Take Care

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  On Dec 28, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

  Ever since updating to Big Sur, my VO focus has  never been in focus for 
FaceTime calls. 



On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:01, John Panarese  wrote:

  If the focus is on the window, you should be able to VO-arrow to the, 
accept, button and then VO-space. If you have to use the notification center to 
answer, then use the approach I mentioned before. Usually, for me, the 
VoiceOver focus is right in the FaceTime call window and I just have to 
navigate to the, accept, button. 


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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  On Dec 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  John,

  Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps after 
doing a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call comes 
through do it right where the VO focus is at?

  Eileen

  From: John Panarese 
  Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
  To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
  Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the 
options. You can then VO-spacebar. 



  Take Care

  John D. Panarese
  Director
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On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hello All,

Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been 
able to answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes 
me to the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, 
is it a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told 
that I really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather 
wait a year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track 
pad or VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications 
since I could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech 
support. 

Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

Eileen

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, but I use Face Time for a weekly music lesson that now has to be done 
virtually so I can’t use headphones. I will keep this in mind as a possibility 
once I dig up a pair of headphones that have such a buttone on them for other 
calls.

Eileen

From: Anders Holmberg 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:40 PM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

Hi! 
If you have headphones connected to your Mac you can just press the answer 
button on your headphones.
/A



  28 dec. 2020 kl. 19:14 skrev John Panarese :

 It’s hit or miss. I’m not sure if it’s based on what you are doing at the 
moment, but sometimes, the focus is in the window for me, sometimes it’s not. I 
haven’t paid enough attention yet to figure out that mystery yet. 


  Take Care

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  Director
  Mac for the Blind
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  Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Dec 28, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Ever since updating to Big Sur, my VO focus has  never been in focus for 
FaceTime calls. 



  On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:01, John Panarese  wrote:

If the focus is on the window, you should be able to VO-arrow to the, 
accept, button and then VO-space. If you have to use the notification center to 
answer, then use the approach I mentioned before. Usually, for me, the 
VoiceOver focus is right in the FaceTime call window and I just have to 
navigate to the, accept, button. 


  Take Care

  John D. Panarese
  Director
  Mac for the Blind
  Tel, (631) 724-4479
  Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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On Dec 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

John,

Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps 
after doing a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call 
comes through do it right where the VO focus is at?

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

  VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the 
options. You can then VO-spacebar. 



Take Care

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Director
Mac for the Blind
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  On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Hello All,

  Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been 
able to answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes 
me to the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

  Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, 
second, is it a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

  I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was 
told that I really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but 
rather wait a year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the 
track pad or VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

  Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications 
since I could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech 
support. 

  Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

  Eileen

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

John,

Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps after doing 
a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call comes through 
do it right where the VO focus is at?

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

  VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the options. You 
can then VO-spacebar. 



Take Care

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  On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Hello All,

  Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been able to 
answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes me to 
the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

  Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, is it 
a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

  I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told that I 
really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather wait a 
year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track pad or 
VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

  Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications since I 
could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech support. 

  Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

  Eileen

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A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hello All,

Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been able to 
answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes me to 
the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, is it a 
bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told that I 
really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather wait a 
year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track pad or 
VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications since I 
could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech support. 

Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

Eileen

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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Ian,

About 3 years back, when Apple stores were open to go into, I traded in 2 
Iphones and an Ipad. The only thing I was able to do in the store was let them 
wipe all the data and personal information off of my devices. The trade-ins had 
to be done by mailing them in. And if I am recalling correctly, there was also 
an on-line form that had to be completed before they sent the mailing cartons 
and related paperwork that had to get packaged with each specific device.

Depending on the condition of the device(s) they will then mail you some dollar 
amount back in the form of Apple gift cards. 
In my case I wanted to upgrade my phone, but because the phones I was trading 
in had to get wiped clean and shipped to them, I could not apply the gift cards 
towards my new purchase since I did not want to be without my cell-phone 
service during the interim. I wound up putting the gift cards towards Apple 
TV’s. So they keep you coming back to them no matter what.

Eileen


From: Ian Harrison 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:40 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries ; 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone ; 
applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

Hi all,

I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order to 
buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t go to 
the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, how long do 
I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the necessary 
packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the value they offer?

I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the store 
terms and conditions.

With thanks
Ian

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Re: How Do I Pair AirPods with My MacBook?

['Eileen scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

David,

Thanks, but I did try turning bluetooth on in preferences & I may or may not 
have tried pressing the pairing button on the pod’s case. I’ll try it another 
time. It just seemed so difficult in comparison to pairing with my IPhone X. In 
the case of the phone, the pairing happened automatically as soon as I  
unlocked my phone. 

I was wondering if issues with pairing them to the Mac Book had any thing to do 
with interference from the phone being on my person (but locked) while trying 
to pair the pods to the Mac Book.

Thanks.

Eileen

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 9:34 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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How Do I Pair AirPods with My MacBook?

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Hi,

I’m trying to pair a new pair of AirPods with my 2014 Mac Book Pro. I can’t 
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

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I’m using an IPhone 10. Ever since the upgrade to V. 13.x after I hang up from 
a phone call the phone goes silent on me. The only way to get it working again 
is to turn VoiceOver off then on again. Its quite annoying and I hope they get 
a fix for it soon.

Eileen

From: Petrus Tuerlings 
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

Did you get a reply from Apple regarding the sound loss problem? Must admit, I 
still haven’t experienced this bug and I have an 8+. 



  On 12/10/2019, at 19:07, João de Sousa e Silva  wrote:

  Hi,

  “got sound back by plugging in head set.” I tried so and didn’t work with me. 
I am suspicious  that is more than one bug with a similar result. 


   
  Yesterday, after arriving home, I realised that my iPhone 8 was without any 
sound again. This time the phone got there without any call. So, 3 times with 
iPhone 8, that I don’t use that much, and 0 with my iPhone 7 that I am using 
all the time.


   
  Today I have a scheduled call with Apple due to other problem. I’ll ask about 
this one as we’ll.


   
  This is getting insane. Prices rising and software quality decreasing.


  Às 15:49 de 11/10/2019, Loy Green escreveu:

In case you did not see another post that said they had sound loss and got 
sound back by plugging in head set.
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 131.2

  Hi, 

  Upon more testing, I did lose VO speech another time yesterday.  I was 
using my Headphones while making a call, and used the button on the headphones 
to end the call.  This caused me to lose VO speech and sounds totally.  Haptics 
were still working, but no sound at all.  I did make another call with my 
headphones on, but did a two-finger double-tap to end the call this time.  I 
did not lose sound in this case.  This leads me to believe, at least so far, 
that it has something to do with how VO is routing sound.  I've not experienced 
the problem at all when I just use my iPhone normally without headphones, but 
twice now with headphones on.  It seems t, somehow the iPhone gets confused 
with where the sound is to be routed, and thus shuts the entire sound off.  I 
might need to do some more testing to confirm all these findings, but might be 
getting somewhere.

  Just an FYI.

  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
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  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
  Jamf Certified Associate
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  On Oct 7, 2019, at 07:37, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Hi, 

  these sorts of problems are quite difficult to nail down due to the 
inconsistency of its presentation.  As I've mentioned, I've only experienced 
this problem once with the phone app, and total loss of speech nowhere else.  
Sometimes, speech is lost for a second or so after I press the side button to 
unlock my iPhone, but a swipe left/right brings it back, so, I don't believe 
that requires a restart.  There are a lot of variables that might be causing 
the issues for the people that are experiencing this, such as background apps 
that are running, certain settings that one user has vs another, version of the 
iPhone etc.  Numerous hard resets also can corrupt a system, so, in some cases, 
a restore will mostly fix things.

  Some questions that might help are:

  • Does it lose speech at the Lock screen or elsewhere?
  • Does it lose speech when you're in a specific app?
  • Is your iPhone in a specific app when you unlock it, or is it on the 
Home screen?
  • do you have Background App Refresh enabled?
  • do you have an external device connected such as a Braille device or 
external bluetooth speaker?

  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
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  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
  Jamf Certified Associate
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada

  On Oct 7, 2019, at 05:40, Loy Green  wrote:

  What do you mean?
- Original Message -
From: João de Sousa e Silva
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

try to call to it. Worked with me.


Às 12:31 de 07/10/2019, Loy Green escreveu:

  I went through these power cycles and still my phone went silent 
later in the day.
- Original Message -
From: Jürgen Fleger
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

  Wow, thanks for this. What an annoying issue!

Yesterday it happened to my iPhone 11 Pro. As I tried to switch it 
off and on again somehow the emergency call became activated and all my 
emergency contacts got 

Re: Searching The App Store?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Okay, my fault. I found the search edit field. There is some really long 
wording at the start of it that made me skip right over it. Jeesh, you think 
Apple would lable it with something meaningful like Edit search text instead of 
the longstring of non-dewscriptive wording they put there.

Eileen

From: 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Searching The App Store?

Yes, I tap on the search tab, but an edit field does not appear on the screen. 
There is a button to dictate, but that is not getting me the result I know the 
app store has. Where is the edit field located? I’ve swiped all over the screen 
and there does not appear to be an Edit Text field! At least that I’m able to 
locate.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Vaughn Brown 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Searching The App Store?

Once you open the app store, put your finger at the buttom of the
screen, there you will find tabs, swipe right and or left until you
find the search tab. There you will find a search editor to input your
searc term.

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>
> Where can I find search in the app store to search for an app I want. I was
> not happy with results Siri brought up when I asked. I am running the most
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Re: Searching The App Store?

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Yes, I tap on the search tab, but an edit field does not appear on the screen. 
There is a button to dictate, but that is not getting me the result I know the 
app store has. Where is the edit field located? I’ve swiped all over the screen 
and there does not appear to be an Edit Text field! At least that I’m able to 
locate.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Vaughn Brown 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Searching The App Store?

Once you open the app store, put your finger at the buttom of the
screen, there you will find tabs, swipe right and or left until you
find the search tab. There you will find a search editor to input your
searc term.

On 10/7/19, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi,
>
> Where can I find search in the app store to search for an app I want. I was
> not happy with results Siri brought up when I asked. I am running the most
> release of IOS 13.x.x on an IPhone 10.
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Searching The App Store?

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Hi,

Where can I find search in the app store to search for an app I want. I was not 
happy with results Siri brought up when I asked. I am running the most release 
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Thanks.

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Re: Word On The Mac?

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Thank you for mentioning this point. I will look into what the differences are. 
I am still primarily a Windows computer user, but if I am trying to open up my 
documents on the Mac Book it would be helpful to have Word.

Eileen

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Word On The Mac?

Hi, eileen, 

Office 365 requires a subscription.  There is also a stand-alone version of 
Word for Mac.  It works pretty well.  Depending on what your needs are the 
stand-alone version may be cheaper in the long run.
Cheers,
Donna



  On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:32 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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  Hi,

  If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

  Eileen

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Re: Word On The Mac?

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Thanks again. I will look into Office 365.

Eileen

From: Simon Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 8:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Word On The Mac?

Microsoft office has worked obn thed mac for years   but only in the office 365 
suite has it become usable with voiceover 

 

As it is on the ios devices such as phone and ipad,.

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Word On The Mac?

 

Yes, Word for Mac via Office 365. Its accessibility has room for improvement, 
but it has actively been worked on by Microsoft.

 

From: Macvisionaries 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 19:32
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Word On The Mac?

 

Hi,

 

If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

 

Eileen

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Re: Word On The Mac?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Thank you. I’ll look into the office 360.

Eileen

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 7:46 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Word On The Mac?

Yes, Word for Mac via Office 365. Its accessibility has room for improvement, 
but it has actively been worked on by Microsoft.

 

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Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 19:32
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Word On The Mac?

 

Hi,

 

If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

 

Eileen

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Word On The Mac?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

Eileen

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