Re: A work around for the vo shift m issue in the doc

2021-02-01 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
It works Kliph. I have used this work around since the first time you mentioned 
it in one of our sessions.
Thank you. Lh 

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Re: iBooks question

2021-01-08 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Good idea; thanks.

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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Dennis Westphal  
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> After the Text you want to copy is read press VO+Shift+c. That will copy the 
> last spoken otterance to the clipboard. 
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>> Am 08.01.2021 um 20:31 schrieb 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Is there a way to copy pieces of text from a purchased book in the iBooks 
>> App?
>> 
>> I can understand the principle of not being able to copy the entire book; 
>> however, if you are studying material you are trying to learn, copying small 
>> sections would be most helpful.
>> 
>> Any thoughts out there.
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iBooks question

2021-01-08 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Is there a way to copy pieces of text from a purchased book in the iBooks App?

I can understand the principle of not being able to copy the entire book; 
however, if you are studying material you are trying to learn, copying small 
sections would be most helpful.

Any thoughts out there.

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Re: Sorting a Numbers spreadsheet

2021-01-08 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Thanks Kerry. That sequence was very helpful.

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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Kerryann Ifill  wrote:
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> Hi Larry:
> 
> Well let’s see. If you go to the toolbar and choose the organise radio 
> button. Then you can VO+J to the format group area and activate the Sort 
> Radio button of the 3 buttons available.
> Next move to the scroll area and you can choose sort now.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Kerry
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>> On 8 Jan 2021, at 12:28 PM, 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Can someone explain a bit about the sort on a Numbers spreadsheet?
>> 
>> Just a simple sort between two columns.
>> 
>> Any info appreciated. Thanks.
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Sorting a Numbers spreadsheet

2021-01-08 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Can someone explain a bit about the sort on a Numbers spreadsheet?

Just a simple sort between two columns.

Any info appreciated. Thanks.

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Numbers Question

2020-12-31 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
A question for the Numbers expert out there:

How can I edit a formula which has a cell reference to another sheet?

I can edit normal formulas which refer to cells on the same sheet, but I cannot 
figure out how to change the extended sheet reference in the new 
formula—VoiceOver says it ok, but I am not able to edit it.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Re: confused with pages

2020-12-31 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
I believe the book is still on the Mosen.org  website.


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> On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:16 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
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> In 2016 Anne & Archie Robertson had published a tutorial on Pages.  I can’t 
> remember where you could buy it from but maybe googling might help?  It was a 
> very good tutorial and it should still be relevant.
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>> On 30 Dec 2020, at 20:19, Chris Westbrook > > wrote:
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>> I am confused when I try to open a docs file in pages. I seem to have a 
>> document layout area that shows all of the pages, but I can't seem to edit 
>> text in that. I opened the document in text edit and it read fine as 
>> expected. Is there a good tutorial on pages or is there something I'm 
>> missing? Thanks for helping me on my mac adventure.
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Re: A couple of data locations

2020-12-24 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Thanks Jonathan.

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> On Dec 24, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Hello,
> First, move to your home directory in Finder.
> Now, press command-J to bring up view preferences.
> 
> Near the bottom of this panel is a show library folder  checkbox.
> Check this, and then close the view options window.
> Now pressing command-shift-L will open a view of your library folder. There 
> is a first level "mail" folder in there.
> 
> In terms of Overcast, that will be much more difficult, since modern 
> applications use sandboxes to protect one applications files from other 
> applications. These are in the Library directory 
> Under Group Containers if I am not mistaken.
> 
> However, the directories under Group Containers use a hash key for their file 
> name.
> 
> There might be some files in the iCloud directory. You could certainly check 
> and see if Overdrive has an iCloud directory.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
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>> Greetings All,
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>> Life in the Mac world is slowly getting normalized again. 
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>> Three questions if I may?
>> 
>> 1. Where in the system can I see the box files which are used by Mac mail?
>> 
>> 2. Where in the system are the podcast stored for the app Downcast. I saw 
>> that reference lately and cannot put my hands on it again.
>> 
>> 3. Once upon a time there was a hidden library under the home directory of 
>> Users. There was a key combination while browsing in Finder which would 
>> reveal the directory entry.
>> 
>> Any thoughts are appreciated; otherwise I will start digging into the Apple 
>> Support website.
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A couple of data locations

2020-12-23 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Greetings All,

Life in the Mac world is slowly getting normalized again. 

Three questions if I may?

1. Where in the system can I see the box files which are used by Mac mail?

2. Where in the system are the podcast stored for the app Downcast. I saw that 
reference lately and cannot put my hands on it again.

3. Once upon a time there was a hidden library under the home directory of 
Users. There was a key combination while browsing in Finder which would reveal 
the directory entry.

Any thoughts are appreciated; otherwise I will start digging into the Apple 
Support website.

Larry W. Honaker

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Re: an update on my Big Sur experience

2020-12-23 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Things may work differently on the Intel Macs as opposed to the new M1 Macs, 
but Mike I am still able to open an app from the dock with VO+spacebar. I am 
unable to access the menu from the dock to get to the open command.

The VO command does open the app, however.

I agree that there are some serious bug issues, but I do believe we have to try 
and move forward and just keep pressure on Apple to fix the problems.

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> On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> So, after playing with the new operating system a bit more, I'm going to 
> stick with it rather than going back to Catalina although I still think that 
> Apple has taken several steps backward with this new OS. I figure there's no 
> point going back to an old operating system even if it's a bit easier for 
> some things.
> I do hope Apple fixes the bug with using the dock, but I have an acceptable 
> work around for that. I prefer not to open the applications folder every time 
> I want to open an app which is what I used the dock for. Since this is 
> currently not possible, I have made aliases for the applications I use the 
> most and put them on my desktop.
> Regarding the messages application, I think I have found what I would 
> consider to be a major voiceover bug and it's one reason I was having so much 
> trouble with the app. Voiceover has a setting that determines how groups are 
> handled, I usually use the bookend groups option since this eliminates the 
> need to interact with items as much. This setting does not currently work 
> with the messages app. Basically the new messages app has two sections, the 
> conversations list and to the right of that is the area where the selected 
> conversation is displayed. If you use one of the other voiceover group 
> settings besides standard, once you move in to one of these areas, voiceover 
> will get stuck there and you cannot get out of this section and go to the 
> other one. Since I usually use the bookend groups setting, I created an 
> activity for the messages app that switches to the standard setting instead. 
> Unlike the messages app in Catalina, you can no longer use just the arrow 
> keys to select a conversation, you must interact with the conversations list 
> and use voiceover to select the conversation you want. Also, when opening the 
> context menu for a conversation, you must use the voiceover up and down 
> commands to move through the menu, using the regular arrow keys will not work.
> I've also found an odd issue with the notification center, in previous 
> operating systems, when an application requested to use the notification 
> center, the prompt would appear and there were buttons to allow or deny the 
> request. With Big Sur, either those buttons do not appear or Voiceover does 
> not see them. You have to press VO+command+space to open the actions menu to 
> respond to the notification.
> I really hope Apple fixes some of these issues, I would consider some of them 
> to be major.
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Dock issue in Big Sur

2020-12-21 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Greetings All,

As several folks have reported, I have experienced the bug in Big Sur in 
regards to invoking the menu on items in the dock. I am using a new M1 
MacBookAir.

I have spent some time with Apple Support and they have provided a sort of 
workaround for this issue. It certainly is  not as convenient as the original 
VO+Shift+m; however, it works “most” of the time—and I emphasize , “most” as 
the workaround does not always open the menu for me.

Anyway, here is the workaround and it is better than nothing until they get the 
bug fixed.

1. Go to the dock with VO+d
2. Navigate to the item you wish to work with
3. Press the key combination of VO+function+Command+5 
  (VO says the name of the app you are focused on in the dock)
4. Press VO+h+H
5. Type r I (no space between the r and i)
6. VO will say right mouse click; press return
This usually opens up the menu where you can access options and other choices 
usually displayed thru the VO+Shift+m menu.

Again, not perfect but it has worked fairly reliably for me so far.

Hope this helps anyone else dealing with this issue.

Larry W. Honaker

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Re: Daisy Reader on the Mac?

2020-12-17 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Thanks! I can find it. I appreciate the info.

Kindly yours,

Larry W. Honaker

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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Dolphin EasyReader for Mac.
> I don’t know the link but I can try to provide one.
> /A
> 
>> 17 dec. 2020 kl. 15:35 skrev 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Is anyone using a good Daisy Reader on the Mac? 
>> 
>> This would be for Daisy audio and Daisy text files.
>> 
>> Any info appreciated.
>> 
>> Most cordially,
>> 
>> Larry Honaker
>> 
>> kc8...@icloud.com
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Daisy Reader on the Mac?

2020-12-17 Thread 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries
Is anyone using a good Daisy Reader on the Mac? 

This would be for Daisy audio and Daisy text files.

Any info appreciated.

Most cordially,

Larry Honaker

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