Re: Speakable Feature
Hi again I didn't do the calibration at all. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, mine works about 20% of the time at best. What calibration level did you settle on? I'm also using the internal microphone on the Mac. Thanks. Les On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi there. Mine works I think about 95% of the time. I am using the microphone that is within the Mac. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Mine works maybe 70% of the time. However, I have a cheap desktop microphone feeding into a $3 USB sound card, plus a fan in the background. I'm sure that, with a better microphone, I'd get much better results. As with any speech recognition, the microphone makes a lot of difference I'd expect. On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I have this working, but it's very intermittent. While I like the concept, it doesn't seem practical to use it right now: if I'm missing something, let me know. What are other's results getting this to work reliably? Les On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Neil When you can get it to work, you need to say the phrase tell me what to say This will bring up a list of phrases because the words have to be exact Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: sorry, where do you enable that bit though, I mean I can dictate no issue, but, how does one ask what day it is etc? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:48, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: These are commands you can give, like what time is it or open iPhoto. You can even select buttons shown in the currently open dialog just by speaking them. If you are at all familiar with Windows speech recognition, it's like dictation is the text input part of that and speakable objects is the other part that accepts commands for system operations. On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Tim Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, easy enough. What is this about speakable Items I'm seeing how does that effect this. Sorry I'm so late coming into this, I've been at work today and not able to keep up with this a lot as they haven't upgraded us yet. Thanks for your patience guys. On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: You go into system preferences, then accessibility. Interact with a table and select dictation. Turn it on, then follow the dialogs. If you are using a usb microphone, you may have to going to sound preferences and set the input source to be that USB microphone. On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tim Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just getting used to Mountain Lion. How do you get into dictation, would love to try it out. Thanks. On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well Alex, good for you. I love the dictation as well. I am talking into a Griffin IMike with a Gigaware are microphone attached to it. And, my air conditioner is going in the background. Not bad Huh? I have only made small corrections to this dictation.? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am also having great luck with dictation. I have a cheap desktop microphone going through a cheap usb sound card (since the mac doesn't support direct input of non-powered mics) but it is still doing really well. In my quick tests, it made no mistakes. This, paired with that amazing speakable items feature, will make me an even lazier person than I already am. Ironically, I didn't dictate this entire message. I did, however, dictate these last two sentences. I should also add that there's a ceiling fan going in the background. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty
Hi guys Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this weird problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because, the screens of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of course, there are Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got told last night there's no way to do it with voiceover. I am supposed to get a phone call about this later. He asked me if I wanted to get an email or phone call. For right now, I canceled all the rules I head. That way, at least I can get everything in my inbox. Of course, I can also get mail on my iPhone fortunately. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am having the same problem. My inbox is expanded so that I see the separate inboxes for my separate accounts. However, I can't see the list of folders under each account. These used to appear below my trash folder in the list of mailboxes. In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking on a disclosure triangle for each account. Using VO+down arrow on the list of mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to items with the names of my email accounts and a disclosure triangle. When I interact with these items to try and press the triangle to expand the list, I can't. VO+space, pressing enter, left and right arrows won't do it. Any other suggestions? -Greg On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Is you're mailbox list expanded? Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand the mailboxes for you. HTH, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi guys. I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last night. I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!
Hi guys Well, the braille display is one problem I'll not have it. Actually, I'm doing pretty well except for the aforementioned email thing. I have a focus 40 which is not a Bluetooth. It is doing fine. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Steve, I am using a BrailleNote over here, and it works fine with bluetooth. Harry On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just hooked up my Refreshabraille via the USB cable and that seems to be working. So I have issues pairing the bluetooth side of things with this braille display. Makes me wonder if other bluetooth displays are experiencing any similar problems. On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I'll get out my USB cable for the Refreshabraille to see if that makes any difference. I just know the bluetooth seems broken here. I also plan to call Apple today on it to see if any issue can be raised or if the pairing procedure might have changed some how. It just disturbed me greatly when I heard stuff about being unable to load or find a driver for the device. On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Johanna Herranen johannamaria.herra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm successfully using Baum VarioConnect 32 here with Mountain Lion. It's connected via USB, but I could try Bluetooth too - out of curiosity. Speaking of Braille suppor though, I wish one day they would fix all the issues with International braille tables. On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, but wait a minute. Can we be absolutely sure it's indeed braille display support in a whole that is messed up? Sounds like you're using a bluetooth display. Could it be that the issue only lies with BT displays, and not with regular connected u s b's? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty
Hi Mark Thanks, but it didn't work. I think I've got some kind of weird view on here that is causing the problem. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: You should see the on my mac, mailboxes, and then hitting right-arrow will take you into that submenu. From there, you can type the first letter of the box you want. That's the change as it happened when I upgraded. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: think I got paste to work was : type2phone
Hi guys I guess I missed something here, but what is the advantage of this type to program over notes? Text goes into my iPhone when I use notes on my Mac, soul I guess I don't get it Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Christina, I followed your directions using Lyon and my iPhone 4 S and sure enough as long as I turned off Voice over before pressing Command Shift V the text went in nicely. Frustrating that we have to do this but great that you found a work around! Thanks for posting this work around and I'm glad I could reproduce it. eRic Caron On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Christina wrote: Hi, I played around and I did get it to work. I do not know how reliable my method is so if you try this, you might proofread. I am using snow leopard and an iPhone 4 and all is the latest version of software. So, I just typed up some test text in a new e-mail, selected it in the usual way and copied it in the usual way. Then I went over to type to phone and did a triple click home to toggle VO off on my iPhone after I had the curser in the edit box. Then, on the mac with type2phone, I pressed command, plus shift, plus v. I then toggled vo back on my iPhone and the proper text was there. I'm curious if this works for others. HTH, Christina C. On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Dear listers, Have any users of Type2phone been able to get the app to copy from the mac and paste into a edit field on the iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: think I got paste to work was : type2phone
Thanks Eric I got it now. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Gigi, Type2phone lets you use your mac to control and type into your i device. By having the paste work you can easily move text from the mac to any application on the i device that has a edit field. You are correct that you can type a note on the Mac and it can appear in the notes app on the i device, Actually I did a podcast for Applevis that demonstrates that. But, if you then want the text in a different app you need to cut and paste it in. With the function of cut and paste working on type2phone you not only have a working alternative to a bluetooth keyboard for your i device but you also have the advantage of being able to move text created on or existing on the Mac directly to any text field on the i device. For me this means that I could type up a recipe on my Mac, or simply copy a existing one and then paste it directly into the text field of a item in List Recorder. Or, my Senior presentation could be pasted right into my presentations list under my work list. This would certainly improve productivity in many apps. Hope this explanation explains better how this is different then using Notes. eric Caron On Jul 14, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I guess I missed something here, but what is the advantage of this type to program over notes? Text goes into my iPhone when I use notes on my Mac, soul I guess I don't get it Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Christina, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Not hearing, Selected header cell in Numbers
Hi again Harry I think maybe Tim answered this question, but remember that on the map, you can always press command and the comma to have access to preferences in any application. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Eugenia, Do you perhaps know how to have Text Edit stop autocorrecting my spelling? I am typing in both English and Spanish, and I really don't need it correcting all the Spanish! Lol. I prefer to have it continue autocorrecting in mail, etc. Thanks, Harry On Jul 11, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi again Harry. If you have a braille display, and I think you said you did, the tabs will appear like the letter i with a dot below it. The carriage returns will look like the letter m with a dot below it. So, if you type in TextEdit in either grade 2 or computer braille, you can see the control characters displayed so you can find out if you missed putting in a tab. Because, if you forget one, of course, your text will be in the wrong column. You can turn on control characters by saying yes to see dots 7 and 8. This is one option I wish we were able to turn the display of control characters on and off. I do this all the time because I have four columns I need to separate in my braille proofreading reports. Although I could use Numbers to do this, I found TextEdit better since it produces rtf files, and it is ore flexible for my reports. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: Oh, wow. That's fascinating. So by putting a tab between each world/designation, it will automatically put them in separate columns? Thank you so much; i never knew this, and this will make my translation glossaries so much easier once I begin my certificate this fall. Harry On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Harry. I think you have to hear one or the other. As far as I know, this is true in Windows for Excel, at least it is with Jaws. I don't remember Jaws saying anything about headers, but I believe that it does always say the column and row designations. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong. If you're inputting a whole bunch of things, you might try going into TextEdit and typing what you want in the first column. If you want column 2, then put a tab and type it. Finish out with a carriage return. Then you can select all the text with command a, and then press command c to copy. Then go to Numbers, put the cursor on the first column where you want your text to go, and then do command v to paste it. You might not need all this explanation, but I figure somebody does if you don't. I do this procedure all the time because I get thirty or forty entries that are similar that I want to put into Numbers. I've found it's faster to do it through TextEdit. I assume you could do it with Pages as well, but I've found TextEdit to be easier. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: Hi, I changed those numbers to zero, and that seemed to fix the issue. I still here the column and row, though, as in A1, B1, etc. Thanks, Harry On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Harry. Please be aware that the default in Numbers is one header column and one row header. Therefore, as a precaution, you might want to insert one column on the left in column a and a row at the top before you take out your headers and change it to no headers. I'm afraid if you don't do that first, then you might accidentally erase your top row and the first column. Then after you have taken out the headers, you can erase the extra row and column you put in as a precaution. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: Hi guys, I'm trying to figure out how I can avoid hearing, selected header cell, in Numbers when moving from row to row and column to column. I want to make a foreign language glossary for my different translations, but that is extra information that I don't really need. Intermediate verbosity doesn't change it at all, and low verbosity says, header cell, with nothing else, which may or may not be alright; I've not figured that out yet. And also, since I use a Braille display, I assume there's a good way not to clutter the Braille display with unnecessary information? Thanks so much, all you guys, for the help. it's tremendous and appreciated. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: New news about PDF Pen
Hi guys I called up PDF pen on my computer, and I didn't see any update since the last time I tried it. Therefore, I guess it's still partially inaccessible. Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Mary. I have PDFpen on my computer. I found it partially inaccessible but I will check it out again and see if anything has changed. I will let you guys know what I find out, unless of course, someone else finds out sooner. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 4, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote: How can i get this podcast? On Jul 4, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: Hello guys, I skimmed through some of the archives discussing PDF pen, which so far indicate this is a great app to have. GG noted that she had some difficulties completing PDF forms. Is this something that has been remedied? I encourage you guys to listen to the Mac Power Users podcast if you are not doing so already. I have found it to be a great podcast, as I begin truly diving into the wonderful world of Mac. Thanks for any feedback. Sent from my iMac Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Turning off or Disabling Trackpad
Hi there Yes, and if you are an iPhone user, you will understand what I'm about to say right away. Holding down the control and option keys, take 2 Fingers And Pl. them on the trackpad. Then rotate your wrist to the left, and you will hear an little musical tone and voice over will say track pad commander off. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Mike Busboom m...@busboom.at wrote: Greetings! Recently, a blind friend of mine purchased either a MacBook or MacBook Pro. I am attempting to teach him how to use his Mac, and we are making a lot of progress. We are having one problem, however, where I could use a tip: Sometimes, while typing, his wrist accidentally hits the Trackpad, and VoiceOver starts talking. Is there a way to disable the Trackpad so that this doesn't occur? I purchased my MacBook in early 2009, but I can't remember what I did to disable the Trackpad. However, my friend just recently purchased his Mac two months ago. I don't know if it is a MacBook or MacBook Pro, or if this even makes a difference. We need to disable the Trackpad or at least shut it up when his wrist accidentally bumps against it. Fortunately, when I touch the trackpad on my Mac, VO doesn't say a thing, but I can't remember how I made this happen. I have gone into the System Preferences, but I didn't locate a Disable Trackpad option. In the VO Utility program, Enable Trackpad Commander is unchecked on my system. Would we be able to silence my friend's Trackpad if we unchecked it on his Mac, or do we also need to do something elsewhere? Most gratefully yours, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Difference between Mac and Windows
Hi again John makes use of the insert key for various commands. In laptop mode, it makes use of the caps lock key instead of the insert key. At least, that's an option. You might want to set their computer to laptop mode under Jealous. I'm not sure how it would treat the condition control and option keys especially the option key if you used the Apple keyboard. Maybe someone here has a better answer to that one. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2012, at 4:09 AM, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for all the helpful suggestions. I will most probably be asked to use JAWS. Gigi, luckily, I enabled that option soon after I started using VoiceOver as I was more comfortable that way since I used to use a Windows laptop with JAWS before I got my Mac. I was even thinking of asking them to allow me to use my Apple bluetooth keyboard as I use it all the time with my iPhone. It would be best if they allow me to use my own Mac, but that's unlikely. Let's see. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Difference between Mac and Windows
Hi Stacy Yes, that is the option I was talking about. I am never change this on my computer, but I read about it in the voiceover manual. That's how I knew it could be done. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stacey, I think Gigi went to VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and under Verbosity, went to the Text tab and set the pop up menu button after When moving the cursor to change it from Speak text the cursor passes to Speak text to the right of the cursor. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 27, 2012, at 09:27, Stacey Robinson wrote: What option would I change in vo to make it behave more like jaws when typing. I'm referring to your deleting example. Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. On Jun 27, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Rahul. Do you know what screen reader they have? If it's Jaws, there is one difference I would like to point out, and you can practice on it on your Mac ahead of time. By default, VoiceOver announces a letter when cursor goes over it and then moves to the right so that you backspace usually to delete the character (never mind about forward delete right now.) In Jaws, you don't do it that way. The cursor stays put so when you hear a letter, if you want to delete it, you press delete. you can change this option in VoiceOver, and you may want to do that and practice in TextEdit. It took me some time to get used to the difference when I switched. Windows machines have slightly different keyboards, but you can give yourself a crash course by making sure you know where the delete key is. Until or if you are able to practice more with it, you'll probably have to endure whatever speech options are already set, depending on what the last person did. I know why they might not let you do it, but, if you have a laptop, could you talk them into letting you get into TextEdit or Pages to do your writing? They can see your screen and can tell what you're doing. Since you've been using a reader anyway, maybe they'd let you use your own computer (assuming it's a laptop, of course.) Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:54 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi all, I hope you all are well. Until recently, I always used to give my exams with a writer, but now I've decided to ask the university to allow me to give my exams on the computer. I have a Mac and always use it for doing everything, including typing. But, if my demand is accepted, I will be asked to give my exams on their computer, which, I am sure, would be a Windows machine. So, is there a lot of difference between the Mac and Windows when it comes to typing, editing and reading text? How can I prepare myself to use a Windows machine for giving my papers? Your help and suggestions in this regard would be immensely appreciated. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Finding the notes field in contacts on the iPhone
Thanks a.m. I guess my finger just didn't go far enough down the bottom of the screen. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Gigi, Having tapped the contact you want, find the Edit button and tap it. Find Insert add field and tap it. The last option will be Notes. Tapping this will give you an edit field. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jun 2012, at 19:59, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I know how to get to the contacts and find the notes option on the Mac but how do you get to it on the iPhone and contacts so that you can add a note in your contacts? I can't find it anywhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: choppy VO on apple tv
Hi there I have not had this problem either, but if I did, the two things on my check would be Wi-Fi connection and the battery in the remote. Have you been using your remote that came with the Apple TV a lot? Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I've given up on the remote app for now. All the choppiness I am describing here is with the remote that came with the apple tv. Navigating among top level menu choices, navigating within the netflix menu, navigating my instant queue, all exhibit this problem. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Trouble with dictation
Hi guys again I wonder if anyone else is having this trouble, and if it's a voiceover thing or a dictation thing. Sometimes on my iPhone dictation option just doesn't work at all. I press the dictation key and with no warning, nothing happens. It just says thinking, and nothing appears on the display. Every time this happens, I have to restart the iPhone. Restarting seems to solve the problem, until the next time it decides to go on strike. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Finding the notes field in contacts on the iPhone
Hi guys I know how to get to the contacts and find the notes option on the Mac but how do you get to it on the iPhone and contacts so that you can add a note in your contacts? I can't find it anywhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pages closing documents
Hi there Did you try first taking pages out of memory with command q, and then restarting your computer, taking all windows out? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: When I open a file in Pages, it will say I have 5 other documents open in Pages, and be on document 1. How do I close the other files? Command w isn't working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaking of training...apple store?
Hi Karen I did go to the Apple Store for training, and I had a very good experience. I got one of these people that likes computers big-time. He thought that my braille display the voiceover was absolutely cool. He is a long time Macintosh users that want to work for. Apple. Apple charges $99 if you're buying a new computer for one on one training. You set up the appointment on the computer. However, I had to get my instructor to set up the appointment. I wasn't good enough with Safari to do it. Maybe I can do it now, but I couldn't then. I would like to point out something because of what people were talking about earlier. If you can't sit on those high students, and I couldn't for an hour or more of training, they have a counter thing that they can pull out. They gave me folding chairs to city. Make sure you point out that you need speakers, although they may think of that. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Hi all, How much does it cost there? I long ago decided, especially after I had a macbook as a loan for a while, that when the time came, I am going to the store for voiceover work. first, its terrific Apple offers this, and second they should be rewarded with people to make use of that option. As I lean more towards an ipad, I wondered about others training experiences. and the rate? I am simply interested, I am likely to try it regardless. thanks, Kare -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Hi guys Thanks for the comments. It just so happens, that one of the gentleman at the North Park Apple store, is now beginning to consider himself the voiceover person. This is because he is working with myself and another blind friend. Then, a couple more people walk it. As for the noise, what day was to put speakers on and turn the volume up, and that wasn't a problem. You just have to make sure and ask for speakers. It works fine on my Mac. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: There are 2 issues to consider about one on one training at an Apple store. First, while the reps have heard of VoiceOver, it doesn't mean they really know it. She would have to find someone at the store with whom she could work on a regular basis. When I purchased our first Mac, this is what I did, I had to work it out with the store manager. I had a better experience once I identified the rep who knew VoiceOver. The second issue is that training must take place in the store out in the open. You sit at a table on a high stool, and you have to block out the noise around you. If she becomes rattled easily, I don't think this would be the most optimal learning environment for a beginner. One on One training in a quiet setting is a better route to go, in my opinion. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Apple Key Note
Hi guys I was waiting to see if anybody was going to pick up on this, but one of the things Apple talked about on the keynote was turn by turn directions, not just maps. They gave a demonstration and it did what you think it would, Toews right and left for the street. So far, I only have one criticism of the demonstration. The voiceover type voice never told that the dent that the destination was on the right or the left. They were talking about sighted people using their Cars eyes free. They have managed to acquire a perfect population for checking this out on. Because if we can do it… Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:53 AM, irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure about it, but I can say you that it uses google maps for the names of the roads ecc…. It really is not a real navigator but it can be useful for looking (or better, touching) the roads near us for helping as orienteering ourselves. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 12/giu/2012, alle ore 15:29, Krister Ekstrom ha scritto: Hi, Maybe a stupid question here, but could Ariadne help us if walking in a forest? I thought it was more for streets and such, but i could be wrong. /Krister 12 jun 2012 kl. 14:03 skrev irid domnori: yes, the Gps navigation was developed by an Italian developer and it's named Ariadne gps (in euros it coast 4.99 euros, maybe 8$?) irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 12/giu/2012, alle ore 14:00, Eugenia Firth ha scritto: Hi guys. I really like the Apple Key Note. To start with, the first person they showed on the video of Apps was a blind guy using a GPS to walk in the forest. Although they had to talk about pictures and displays for our sighted friends, there was a lot talked about (like Mountain Lion and Siri and IOS) that we want to know about, too. They even said they were glad about more people using accessibility with IOS and that were more of us. So, if you haven't called it up yet, you might want to check out the Key Note. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Turning VO on or off
First, I thought the default was to have triple click home turned voiceover bon. What's is changed? Because, when I get my iPad, am I'm going to need to test this thing to make sure that option has not been messed with? The app switcher is a way to quickly go from application to application on your iPhone. I find it a little awkward if I've got a lot of on the app switcher. However, I use it for certain things. You can go from page to page in at switcher by three finger flick from left to right or right to left any which way you want to go. Hope this helps. Congratulations on getting your for S. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently purchased a new iPhone 4S and have a question. How can I turn VoiceOver on or off without requiring sighted assistance? On my iTouch, I was able to do this by tapping the home button thrice. However, I don't see the 'triple click home' option under accessibility on my iPhone 4S. And, by default, some thing called 'app switcher' comes up when I triple click the home button. So, what should I do for this? Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading with text edit
Hi Gerard I didn't see where anybody sent this to you, but when I bought numbers it was $21.64. Pages, which is I guess sort of like word, is the same amount. I did not need keynotes, which is presentation software. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Kimsan kim...@blindaccesstraining.com wrote: Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it? Kimsan Song Online Access Technology Trainer 509.396.1646 www.BlindAccessTraining.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/blindaccess -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May McDonald Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org Subject: reading with text edit Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I use this program. How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not it. Thanks, May and Prince Noah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items
Hi Chris You may have already thought of this, but have you thought about asking her why she's not practicing? She may be afraid that she's going to break her computer if you're not fair to help her. She may also have other reasons that she's not telling. After all, she's not lying to you. She could say that she was practicing, even when she was not. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Being she only has 3 weeks, and constantly is admitting she's not practicing at all... she's not paying me so I'm not out any money, gbut she is waisting my time. I don't wanna be rude but I'm really at my limit. Maybe I'm just too nice of a person. I do tend to tell it like it is most of the time, but not when it's in a professional type environment. Then, I try to refrane. Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain. To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if you turn automatic interaction via tab key then things work more like windows, in direct contrast to what others have said. I also liked what Gigi said about sometimes when there's a disconnect trying to teach the theory and apply it, you might be better off just rolling with it. Teach a set of steps to accomplish a task and forget why it works as long as it does. That's a more limited approach but it removes the fear barrier as long as the set of steps works reliably. All that assumes practice. 15 minutes a day is not really a hardship for anyone. I always recommend that to my clients. I have two thoughts on this. If my client is paying their own bills, then Iwill sit them down and tell them straight up that they're wasting their money unless they make some changes. Then if they still want to pay I keep taking their money and muddle along as best I can. If an organization is paying for the support, then I sit the client down and tell them they have to make the changes or they are going to lose their funding. I have to document every hour as I'm sure you do as well. When I get consistent no practice, I put it in the report and the client loses their funding. It sucks to have to do that, but quite honestly, I'm not making the kind of money that makes me want to deal with a lot of frustration. As long as the effort is there I don't care how long it takes to nail down a skill, but if the effort isn't there, then there's some one waiting in line to take that person's spot, one fringe benefit of being a good trainer. :) You can't save the world. Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-06-03, at 11:47 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: okay… I really could use you awls help. I myself am also a Mac voiceover trainer. I have a student who is starting from ground one. to the best of my knowledge, I do not believe that she even knew what voiceover was left alone how to use it until I told her of its existence. she is doing great, however now we're to the point where I am trying to help her learn the concept of interacting with certain items. at this point, she is following behind miserably. I'm not saying that it's her fault, it's probably the way that I am presenting it to her. I honestly am not sure how else to make this easier. I have tried literally almost every analogy underneath the sun. I tried explaining to her that voiceover works very hierarchically. to her, that made entirely no sense. she somewhat gets the concept when interacting with tables, but that's about as far as it goes. even then, I can tell that her concept on the matter is very hazy. I told her also to think of a bookshelf with three or four ring binders if she wanted to get to the third binder, and then look at the 15th page within that binder, she would first have to cross over the first and second binder without even looking inside of them. then, once at the third binder, she could then open it up, and then flip to the 15th page. I tried explaining to her that interacting with items on voiceover is much the same. you have an item where your voiceover cursor sits. you can either use voice over navigation to pass right over the items, or you can climb a level down and see what is underneath that item, by interacting with it. her exact words when I said this work: okay, now you really lost me! I am pretty much out of options. I don't know what else to tell her to try. I am determined to help
Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items
Hi there You know, sometimes the only way you can explain the concept is to say don't worry about it, just do it. Now I say that because I've had a few concepts I didn't get and I just said okay I'll just do it. But the reason I did not have trouble with the interacting concept is that I finally understood that if you want to restrict your voiceover cursor then you do interacting. In other words, you may explain to her that if you don't want to pay attention to anything else on the screen you restrict the voiceover cursor Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New Mac-mini and old printer
Hi there. I was pleasantly surprised the first time I put an old Cannon printer on my Mac. If it had been a Windows machine, I would have had to go through all kinds of hoopla to get it on there. All I did was to plug in the USB cable and press command P to see if the printer was on there. I didn't bother to go to the Cannon website because I was lazy and didn't want to mess with a website I hadn't gone to before. I don't know about the rest of you, but sopmetimes I just can't face an unfamiliar website. I got a nice surprise when I plugged in the USB cable. The printer was on there, and I had to go do nothing after that. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Linda Adams pard...@mindspring.com wrote: Hello everyone, I'm getting a new Mac-mini and wanted to know if I can use an old printer that had been connected to my PC. It is a Canon Image Class MF4100 Series I found a Canon support page on the web with the drivers I would need but the install CD's that came with the printer are for Windows. I am just confused enough over peripheral equipment that I don't have a clue if I can use this printer or not. Recommendations would be appreciated and thanks in advance. Linda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail behaving oddly
Hi I had this happened to me once, and it turned out that my voiceover cursor and my other cursors got separated. I got so frustrated, but I ended up with a Genius Bar appointment. It took the guy about a manage, and he didn't think he did anything. He just clicked around, and the clicking.all the curses back together. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:01 AM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's going on. In Mac Mail, I used to be able to tab and shift tab between the mailboxes table and the message list. I have tab set to automatically interact. For the last few days, tabbing between the two doesn't work anymore. If I'm in the messages list, shift tab takes me to the message content. Tabbing then takes me back into the message list. I can get to the mailboxes table by doing vo-j, but I kind of liked it the other way better. I'm sure I've pressed something without meaning to. Any suggestions? It's only minor in the scheme of things but thanks for any help. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Best Way to Fill Out PDF Forms
Hi Tim I didn't see or anybody answered you yet, so heritages. If you don't have enough vision to use the Mac without voiceover, you will need some type of Windows program if you want to fill out a PDF file. You can read them just fine on the Mac, or the iPhone, but forget about filling out Pimpernel. Week Gigi Who hates PDF files. Sent from my iPhone On May 11, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Tim Hornik timothy.hor...@gmail.com wrote: I know this one probably has been covered in the past, but I could not find a solution. What is the best app to fill out PDF forms with on a Mac? Thank you, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/5LunAV7dLxUJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Screen Reader Usage Surey
Hi guys I did the survey, and it works fine on the iPhone. I did it on the iPhone. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 11, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Neil. This has been posted before and I filled it in! Regards, Kawal. On 11 May 2012, at 17:03, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Dear All, A very valuable survey into our user community and our current screen reading habits can be found at the link below. I think given that this sort of thing can go towards improving things for all of us, that we should actively participate where possible in this. visited link http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/ many thanks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adobi flash player installer pop up, how do I do this?
Thanks Tim. Got it. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If your Church uses Flash, then it wouldn't work if you uninstalled it. For updating, you could either go to the Adobe site or, in your System Preferences, go to the Flash panel and update it from there. Just remember that the update process isn't very accessible anyway. I just use the tab key and spacebar to do the update that is, the tab key and spacebar without the VO keys. Later... On 2012-05-05, at 8:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Guys. I do have a question, however. I think was talked about earlier, but I think I was too dumb to understand the answer. At least one site I go to uses flash, my church site that I sometimes access to watch services when I can't go myself. Although I can't control the volume and pause, etc., it does seem to work well enough for me to hear the service. So, if I uninstall Flash as just recommended, how can I then watch the service? I have just ignored it when the site wants to update the thing. I asked Apple about this when I was in the store last time, and he said that if I wanted to update it, I should just go to the Adobe site and update it there so I wouldn't risk any viruses. What about that. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Ah, thanks for the info. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Yes, uninstall flash. It is a waste of it doesn't work for us. Also, security researchers claim it as a number two cars of viruses. Jonathan Cohn On May 4, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to find out if there is a way that you can make the Adobi Flash Player install the updates by themselves instead of bugging me about it constantly? Hope so cause it gets rather old. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I think seerie is posessed
Hi Jenny No, because I have the same problem. I wrote Apple about it. I think that it may be some kind of glitch with Siri and voice over. I say that because I noticed that the Saudi people I know it has Siri, don't seem to have this problem. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: I just got an I phone 4S and when I try to give sery a command, sometimes I get the ding sound and sometimes it just says listen. I have to dismiss serie all together and then lock the screen several times and then it will work right. Am I crazy, which is a good possibility, or what am I doing wrong? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Advice on switching from PC
Hi again well If you email a PDF file to yourself, when you call up the attachment, one of the choices is to send the file iBooks. I did that and it works good. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Will Cummings will.cummi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback so quickly! @ Eugenia - thanks for the tips! I actually hadn't thought about porting .pdf's onto my iphone for reading, but that could be very useful for catching up on reading when on the bus or travelling. I will have to experiment some. @ Chris - I had heard about BootCamp and Parallels, but not VMWare Fusion. I was planning on setting up one of these options, if only to have a fallback as I learned the Mac environment. My hope in switching was to avoid some of the hassles of the Windows environment (viruses and security issues mostly), which I'm assuming would be equally applicable in BootCamp, etc no? And yes, I wouldn't want to fall into the trap of booting into Windows and not really learning the Mac OS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about Prizmo
Thanks Anne I must've missed something earlier because I had no idea Esther had posted something about Prismo. Thanks for the information, and I a.m. going to archive it here. We'll have town this weekend I'll do some more messing around with this program. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Anne. Seems to me like I remember you being the one that had Prizmo for the iPhone. I just got it from the app store. I can a picture taken with the voice option. However, whenever I get to o c r, I get nothing. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Delete and forward delete.
Hi guys Maveat miss something, but what is the command for forward delete? Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Not confusing at all. Got it. Thanks, On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: In OS/X and GUI environments in Linux type systems, the insertion point (cursor) sits between the character just typed and any future characters typed after that. What I mean is say you typed something like Testing123 and then move the insertion point back over that phrase; say we leave that point between the end of test and before 123. Now, the normal delete key on the mac is located where the typical backspace key is on other computers. Pressing it will delete characters to the left so for our example, pressing the normal delete key would erase the t and pressing it again would erase the letter s and so on. I don't remember what key on a mac would do a forward delete but whatever it is, it would delete characters to the right of the insertion point. So back to our example before any deletes, pressing a forward delete would erase 1, then 2, then 3. That reminds me of the standard delete key function on other computers like in Windows, Linux command line or where ever. Hope this wasn't too confusing. On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Hi, What is the difference between delete and forward delete? Thanks, Stacey and Geb dog Chesley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why Does Spotlight Suddenly Stop Working?
Hi Christine I have had this happen before, but I have always been able to get out of it by pressing escape and restarting spotlight. I know this sounds elementary, but that was the first thing I did start fine about. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: The subject basically says it all. About ten percent of the time, when I attempt to use Sotlight, it just doesn't work. Whatever is on the screen at the time is spoken -- I have to restart the Mac in order for Spotlight to work again. Sometimes, it will work successfully a few times in a row, then when I try to use it, nothing. Has anyone experienced this, and if so, is there a better way than restarting the computer to get it to work properly again? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: i-phone 4.s. problems:
Hi there I have this happen occasionally with in email. Somebody on this list posted this hint, and it is been very helpful to me. Press the power key five times quickly, wait just a little bit, and it should say voiceover on. At that point you may have to get back into where you were. However, it should bring voiceover back. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone, for the past couple of days now whenever i am in an application trying to either download something or i am reading something with voice over. voice over seems to stop working altogether and then i have to close out of the application and turn off the phone completely in order for it to work correctly. is there something that i can do to fix this problem of voice over stop working. it just freezes up altogether. can someone help me with this problem. i most greatly appreciate it. sincerely, chenelle. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A little help with sorting documents
Hello Jason. File organization was for me the most difficult part of switching to the Mac, and now I have no problem with it. First, you may want to experiment with your view. In Windows, I used list view exclusively. However, on the Mac, I have column view to be easier. If you have computer's view set to list view, you may be gettiong lost as where you are and not know it. I do what you are talking about all the time. Get on top of the main folder. Then press command M and go right arrow until you hear file. Then go down until you hear the choice for creating a new folder. Choose that option with VO spacebar. Then type in your file name and enter. Go to the file you want to copy or move. After getting on top of it, press command C. To move you files there, you may need to interact with the browser with VO shift down arrow, or sometimes I open the folder with VO space to make sure my file is going to the right place. The other thing I do, which may be a habit on my part, is save files from TextEdit or Pages always to the desktop and then move them. It helps me keep track of files I still need to work on. The reason I decided I liked column view better than list view is that on the Mac it seems to me that list view mixes the folder names together with the file names. This drove me crazy. Column view doesn't do that; with it, you can read folder names and press right arrow to get into the files under that folder. I was used to pressing enter in Windows to get into files under a folder. On the Mac, you can rename files that way. Now that I'm used to it and broken myself of the habit of pressing enter whenever I want to enter a foler or file, I like the option of renaming files by pressing enter. The other thing I like about the renaming reature is that when you press enter on a file or folder name, you can use usual editing functions to change the file name. I do this a lot. I hope all this makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:49 AM, jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Hello , I am still new to the mac and can't figure out how to sort my documents into specific forlders. So to start I am using a mac book pro with lion. I can create a document fine, I have also created a folder on my desktop where I want to put client notes. The folder on my desktop is called unseen touch. I can put documents in this folder just find also . The thing that I want to do and that i can't do is, In the main folder unseen touch I would like to make many different folders for each of my clients and in each of those folders put individual documents for that days notes. what I have done so far is like I said is create the main folder and when I open it there is a folder that I named jason as well as a document called jason lefevers soap note. how do I get the soap note doc into the jason folder? I have tryed copying the doc and then opening the jason folder then pasting the doc but it just tells me that its already there and asks if I want to replace it , so I say yes but Its not showing up in the jason folder , nothing shows up when I open the jason folder. If anyone could walk me threw this process I would be very happy. Thank you very much. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
got Apple TV
Hi guys. Yesterday I got the Apple TV, and I like it so far. I had to get my husband to get VoiceOver started, and this brings up a question. Although he has promised to leave VoiceOver alone, I know he's going to forget and get impatient because of the amount of talking and decide he can't take it and turn it off, then forget to turn it back on. Trust me, I know it will happen sooner or later, and I'm going to find myself wanting to use it some fine time when he's not home. We've been married for 27 years, and I know how these things happen around here. So, is there some procedure I can follow to turn VoiceOver on when that happens? Regards, Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Libre and Open office
Hi Anne. I agree that Pages and Numbers work just fine. In fact, I like them better than Word and Excel. Numbers accepts Excel formulas, but in many cases, you can use tyhe function of Insert plus Function. I love that. The other thing is that VoiceOver is not as complicated as, say, Jaws to set up the talking of the rows and columns. I did, however, have trouble Pages on tables because, although I although I got my columns of different widths to work within Pages, I found that if I exported the file to Word, the width of the columns got changed. In my case, I'm just not going to worry about it because I have a work around. If I had been just using Pages, things would have been just fine, and maybe I just don't know what I'm doing. I think my tables would have worked find also if I had been printing them. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Steve, On 8 Apr 2012, at 11:02, Steve Holmes wrote: I hear about Pages and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table manipulation is practically impossible from what I have read here I'm so tired of repeating myself, but I use Pages all the time in my capacity as a professional translator. Any tables I find in a document I copy into Numbers so that I keep the formatting correct. I manipulate the table in Numbers, then copy it back into Pages. It doesn't take long and works fine. Like any decent office suite, iWork takes time to learn and people just haven't got the patience. Yes, there are problems with the iWork suite. A group of VO commands doesn't function such as looking for next colour change so I compensate for this by using TextEdit to read my source document, but I have no trouble formatting in Pages. I do think it's about time Apple brought out a new version of iWork. The current one is 3 years old and I'm afraid when they do, it's going to be more like the IOS version but I'll just have to wait and see. Anyway, to finish with iWork for the Mac, Keynote is also perfectly manageable for a totally blind person. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages and Braille Display
Hi Mike Yes, a brails play does work with pages. I do it on the Mac with pages, although these days I use TextEdit more. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Michael Malarsie michael.malar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Can someone tell me if a braille display can be used with Pages? I have never tried one before so I don't know how it works. Thanks. Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
Hi David Thanks for the information and I already have an iPhone. In fact, I had already thought of seeing if I could get my iPhone together with a focus 40 blue. I'll see if I can do that at one of the conventions. I live in Dallas, so that will not be too difficult this year. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2012, at 7:55 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: I realize it isn't like trying it yourself, but I can tell you that I was just using my Focus 40 Blue from my desk at work with the iPad in our technology resource center today, and even demoed using it with a deaf-blind client. It works very well. I have to tell you as a totally blind person my personal preference is to use my iPhone over the iPad, but that is personal preference and it doesn't mean that I am trying to tell you to get an iPhone instead. I just find that because of the way icons are place on the iPad screen it can be a bit more confusing to use the iPad as oposed to the iPhone for the totally blind user. But, that has nothing to do with using the Focus Blue with the iPad. That experience is equally as good with the iPad or iPhone. - Original Message - From: Eugenia Firth To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:52 AM Subject: Re: Braille displays Hi again guys. Forgot to ask another question, and maybe you guys don't know. Does anybody know how I could get an iPad and a Focus 40 Blue in the same room at the same time without spending $2800 first? The Federation is coming to Dallas this year, and I am thinking about going to Louisville. I know these exhibit halls are not the best environment when you want to play around with something, but it may be the best shot I've got. A person at the Apple store here said I could bring in a braille display and pair it with an iPad if I wanted. He was horrified when I told him I would probably have to spend $2800 first. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys It made me laugh to hear you guys talking about carrying those braille displays around, and the laptops. This is because, I used to carry around and Kappel Apple 2E in a backpack, together with the two disk drives. My dog and I used it to go zapping down Gaston Avenue carrying a backpack, that is I carried a backpack. I used to always carry around the tape-based person braille in a backpack too. We sure have come along way. I'm very glad I don't have to carry all that around these days. To make this discussion of mine or related to our topic, I have a question concerning iOS 5.1 Enbrel's place. What is the best way to read DRF files? I seem to remember we had a discussion on this before, but I can't find that discussion. On the Mac, I use TextEdit if I need to read it on the computer. Then, I have to do a transformation to change all the Brille to lowercase. For some reason that I don't understand, all the BRF files I get display in all caps. in. It's no big deal to change it in TextEdit, but I wonder how that's handled on an iPad? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing
Re: Text edit and Lion
Hi a.m. Actually, it hasn't been happening for me either if I decide not to save changes to do command W if I have already saved the file with Phylbeck. I noticed that if I haven't yet saved it and I do command W, then I do get the option to save or not. Is it I have something in system press preferences? Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2012, at 12:52 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Veronica, On 5 Apr 2012, at 06:02, Veronica Elsea wrote: One of the most annoying things I can't get around comes in Text Edit. I can't believe there's no warning when it over writes a file and that no matter what I do, it just saves it when I quit. I don't know what you mean about it overwriting files, but it does save automatically as you work. However, if you close a file with Cmd-w you will get a dialogue asking whether you want to save your changes or not. You still have to quit the application with Cmd-q as it does not quit automatically when it has no windows open. Also, when I open a file, I sure don't land where David does in his little demo. I have to go through a bunch of radio buttons before I find a list view table of document names. Is there a quicker way to open a document? The first thing that comes to mind is your settings in VoiceOver Utility. In the Navigation category, Initial position of VoiceOver cursor should be Keyboard focused item. You talk about opening a file, but it sounds as though you're opening a folder containing files. Each file type is associated with a default application. So, RTF files automatically open with TextEdit. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Text edit and Lion
Hi Veronica Pages does something different then TextEdit. Pages makes a backup file that actually says back up before the name of your file in it. This has saved me a few times. I also got myself a drive that would work with Time Machine. Time machine is a program that does automatic backups every hour if you wanted to. Apple recommended that I get a terabyte drive, even though they said I didn't need something that big right now, it would give me anfor a long time to come. I really like using Time Machine. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! I have a new MacBook air and this is my first adventure with VoiceOver on a Mac computer. I have read the Getting started book, which did give me some minimal starting points. I'm now going through the tutorials done by David Woodbridge. Obviously there are a few things that must have changed in Lion. One of the most annoying things I can't get around comes in Text Edit. I can't believe there's no warning when it over writes a file and that no matter what I do, it just saves it when I quit. That's worse than automatically changing words to something I don't want. Ultimately if I end up using this computer for real, I'll likely spring for Pages or something, hoping that it doesn't do this as well. Also, when I open a file, I sure don't land where David does in his little demo. I have to go through a bunch of radio buttons before I find a list view table of document names. Is there a quicker way to open a document? And I won't even talk about mail yet. grin. Anyway, any help would sure be appreciated. Thanks. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
Hi guys It made me laugh to hear you guys talking about carrying those braille displays around, and the laptops. This is because, I used to carry around and Kappel Apple 2E in a backpack, together with the two disk drives. My dog and I used it to go zapping down Gaston Avenue carrying a backpack, that is I carried a backpack. I used to always carry around the tape-based person braille in a backpack too. We sure have come along way. I'm very glad I don't have to carry all that around these days. To make this discussion of mine or related to our topic, I have a question concerning iOS 5.1 Enbrel's place. What is the best way to read DRF files? I seem to remember we had a discussion on this before, but I can't find that discussion. On the Mac, I use TextEdit if I need to read it on the computer. Then, I have to do a transformation to change all the Brille to lowercase. For some reason that I don't understand, all the BRF files I get display in all caps. in. It's no big deal to change it in TextEdit, but I wonder how that's handled on an iPad? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: No Carbonite on the Mac
Hi guys It's interesting that you should say that you had been able to use Carbonite just fine. I tried to use Carbonite back in the days when I was using Windows. I couldn't get it to work completely withdraws. Also, I did not have good luck with their customer service. I called them and the customer support person just didn't get it one tried to explain that I was trying to use the speech computer. I'm buying all this up to say that it's real interesting that some of these third-party companies say that things won't work with voiceover, and then folks on this list start using the program. Four instance, the Abby find Wietor people told me that their program wouldn't work with voiceover. I know, some of you are talking about using it. So, what does that mean were supposed to do if we want to know if something works with voice over for sure? Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: My experience with carbonite is that it actually is fairly accessible. ONe issue I do have, is when I attempt to look at my backup, I can't drill down into my backup, like I can any folder that has sub-folders in finder, I seem to get taken back to the top level of my backup when attempting to do this. It's interesting that Carbonite support actually said it's totally inaccessible with VO. the system pref pane is actually not too bad in my opinion, with the exception of that one issue. Carbonite like a lot of third-party apps does have an item in the menu bar, which we cannot access. Aside from that, I've actually been very happy with carbonite on the mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
Isn't there a pro version for Abby fine reader question Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:26 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using ABBYY FineReader Express and find it meets most all of my needs. On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it worth it for them to do that. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old Epson Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's true that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on the scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I don't have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I ever went back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over what I have now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
Hi guys It really bothers me that a company that makes specialized software would make a remark about not doing software for us totally blind folks because they couldn't make any money on it. First of all, I have a real problem that there is a special software for the totally blind folks, and another software for others. But they really need, is Kurzweil 4000, to combine everything. I see no reason why they can't do it. It seems to me, they just don't want to. Besides, if one is a partially sighted person, and they buy an expensive program that they can use with their vision, and their vision gets worse, then they have to spend big bucks to get a different program. I see no reason why the disabled community should support that kind of attitude. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:45 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Kurzweil upgrades are quite reasonable. Regardless of what version of the software you have the upgrade price is $125. So, if you are at version 6 you can go all the way to version 12 for $125 and if there is a new version within a year I believe that you get it for free, but don't take that for absolute fact . I am not a Kurzweil dealor and I may be wrong on the free upgrade to the next version if it comes out within less than a year. But I do know the upgrade price is $125. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:00 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR No, I haven't upgraded in many years, didn't think the accuracy of OCR really improved all that much necessarily, only used it for scanning mail once in awhile, but all in one printers sure scan slower than any scanner I've used before. I wish I knew where I put the big box that probably had version 6 in it, but if it's like Jaws or anything else I'll end up with a new disk when I purchase the upgrade. I hope those are still reasonable yet. - Original Message - From: David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: THE REAL DOCUMENT THIS TIME.
This is an incredibly valuable thing, this document you posted. I have been looking for these commands for ever. They also work on the back. I tested it. Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Gucukoglu, Kawal kawal.gucuko...@rnib.org.uk Date: 30 March 2012 02:11:07 PM GMT+01:00 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Subject: THE REAL DOCUMENT THIS TIME. Common Braille commands for VoiceOver navigation Summary When using a Braille display with VoiceOver using iOS 4.1 or later, you can use the following key commands, or chords, to navigate. Products Affected iPhone 3GS (8GB), iPhone 4, iPod touch (3rd generation), iPod touch (4th generation) Braille command (chord) VoiceOver action Dot 1 + Space bar Move to previous item Dot 4 + Space bar Move to next item Dot 3 + Space bar Move to previous item using rotor setting Dot 6 + Space bar Move to next item using rotor setting Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Space bar Select previous rotor setting Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Select next rotor setting Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Space bar Move to the first element Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Move to the last element Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Space bar Read page starting at selected item Dot 2 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Read page starting at the top Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Home button Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Space bar Goes to the Status bar Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Volume Up button Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 6 + Space bar Activates the Volume Down button Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Space bar Activates a Back button if present Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Space bar Activates the Eject key Dot 7 + Space bar Activates the Delete key Dot 1 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Delete key Dot 8 + Space bar Activates the Return key Dot 1 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Return key Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Tab key Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Toggle Screen Curtain on and off Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dote 4 + Space bar Pause or Continue speech Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Space bar Toggle speech on and off Dot 2 + Dot 4 + Dot 6 + Space bar Scroll left one page Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Space bar Scroll right one page Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 6 + Space bar Deselect text Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Select text Dot 2 + Space bar Pan Braille to the left Dot 5 + Space bar Pan Braille to the right Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Toggle announcement history Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Switch between contracted and uncontracted Braille Additional Information Some Braille displays have additional keys you can use for navigation as well. Click the link for your display to see device-specific key commands. Alva BC640 Alva BC680 APH Refreshabraille 18 Baum Conny Baum PocketVario Baum SuperVario Baum VarioConnect 12 Baum VarioConnect (24, 32, 40) Eurobraille Esys 12 Eurobraille Esys 40 Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue Humanware BrailleConnect 12 Humanware BrailleConnect (24, 32, 40) Humanware BrailleNote Apex Humanware Brailliant MDV MB408L Opteclec EasyLink Papenmeier Braillex Trio Important: Information about products not manufactured by Apple is provided for information purposes only and does not constitute Apple’s recommendation or endorsement. Please contact the vendor for additional information. Rate this article: Not helpful Somewhat helpful Helpful Very helpful Solved my problem One Moment Please Thanks for rating this article Not helpful Somewhat helpful Helpful Very helpful Solved my problem Share this article Twitter Facebook Last Modified: November 18, 2010 Article: HT4400 Views:89249 Rating: 3.0/5 Stars (148 Responses) Languages DanskDeutschEnglishEspañolSuomiFrançaisItaliano日本語한국어NederlandsNorsk BokmålPolskiPortuguês (Brasil)PortuguêsPусскийSvenska简体中文繁體中文 Related Articles Optelec EasyLink: Device keys for VoiceOver navigation Humanware BrailleNote Apex: Device keys for VoiceOver navigation American Printing House for the Blind (APH) Refreshabraille 18: Device keys for VoiceOver navigat... Eurobraille Esys 12: Device keys for VoiceOver navigation Eurobraille Esys 40: Device keys for VoiceOver navigation Need more help? Express Lane is the fastest way to contact Apple. Use Express Lane to connect with an expert in Apple Support. Get started Home Support Shop the Apple Online Store (1-800-MY-APPLE), visit an Apple Retail Store, or find a reseller. Apple Info Site Map Hot News RSS Feeds Contact Us Copyright © 2012 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Terms of Use Privacy Policy __ Kawal Gucukoglu Transcription Officer Production Services Commercial Operations Royal National Institute of Blind People (RNIB) Bakewell Road Orton
Re: Using Braille Displays with Mac Computers.
Hi there Does anybody out there know if there is a way to toggle on and off the display of control characters question I don't want to global replace them out, because it would mess up my file. However, I really need to be able to turn them on and off if possible to make reading easier. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hope this is OK. Kawal. Begin forwarded message: From: Gucukoglu, Kawal kawal.gucuko...@rnib.org.uk Date: 30 March 2012 01:02:46 PM GMT+01:00 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Subject: Using Braille Displays with Mac Computers. Chapter 10. Using Braille Displays This chapter provides information about using refreshable braille displays, both plug in and Bluetooth, with VoiceOver. This chapter also includes a list of the many types of braille displays VoiceOver supports. About refreshable braille displays If you connect or pair a supported braille display to your computer, VoiceOver automatically detects it and sends it information about what is displayed on the screen. You can connect multiple braille displays to your computer and each display will mirror the same content at the same time, which can be useful in a classroom setting. By default, VoiceOver displays uncontracted braille, which you can also display using eight-dot braille. You can also use contracted braille; if you do, VoiceOver dynamically changes the display under the cursor from contracted to uncontracted braille, so that you can read and edit more easily, and then changes back to contracted braille when you move the cursor. A braille display typically contains more than just the contents of the VoiceOver cursor. It describes the contents of the entire line on which the VoiceOver cursor is focused, including items to the left and right of the VoiceOver cursor. For example, when the VoiceOver cursor is focused on an item in a window, the braille device displays items like icons, checkboxes, and pop-up menus, as well as text that is to the left and right of the item in the VoiceOver cursor. This collection of items-the VoiceOver cursor and the items to its left and right on the same horizontal line-make up a line of braille. When you interact with an item in the VoiceOver cursor to get more detail about it, the braille description changes to provide more detail as well. For example, if you move the VoiceOver cursor onto a toolbar, VoiceOver describes only the toolbar on the braille display, because toolbars stretch the entire width of a window. When you interact with the toolbar, the braille display describes each item in the toolbar from left to right. VoiceOver raises dots 7 and 8 to indicate the position of the VoiceOver cursor, to help you locate it within the line of braille. (You can turn off this feature in VoiceOver Utility.) Similarly, when you're editing or selecting text, the text selection is represented by dots 7 and 8. VoiceOver also indicates the position of the text selection cursor, called the I-beam, by flashing dot 8 of the braille cell preceding the text selection cursor and dot 7 of the braille cell trailing the text selection cursor. VoiceOver provides additional information about what's on the screen using three status cells. Each status cell provides a designated type of information. You can set the number of status cells that are used and their location on the braille display. For example, you can choose to use the cell that shows text status and set its location to be on the left of your display. VoiceOver detects the type of braille display you're using and sets default preferences appropriate for that display. Use VoiceOver Utility to assign VoiceOver commands to keys on your braille display. You can use the braille display while listening to VoiceOver speak, or you can mute the speech. If your braille display has a Perkins-style keyboard, you can type on it. Pair a Bluetooth braille display Before you can use a supported Bluetooth braille display with VoiceOver, you must pair your braille display with your computer. You can pair only one Bluetooth braille display at a time. You pair the display only once; it remains paired until you remove it from the list of displays. After your braille display is paired, VoiceOver detects it whenever it's turned on and within range; if it's your primary braille display, you can then use it. When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8. Click the Braille category, click Displays, and then click Add (+). Select your Bluetooth braille display in the list. VoiceOver lists only the Bluetooth braille displays that are within range of your computer and that appear to match a VoiceOver braille display driver. Click Select. You may be asked to provide a pairing passcode (such as or 1234, two common default codes). Check the documentation that came with your braille
Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac
Hi Mark I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables were not an option right now. That is a choice I had. Not everybody has that choice of course. Ask for PDF files, I'll just have to use my vista computer when I absolutely have to. Actually, I gave it to my husband. Some people have said that there is a problem with flash also, but I haven't had much trouble with that. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochel...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post to MacVisionaries... be gentle. In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five years for those with accessibility needs. They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this. With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was. They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list. On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer because of other questions. So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all the time so I don't want to be repetitive either. Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning about the wonderful world of Mac! :) -Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Kindle App on iPhone
Hi guys Well, as for me, I think I'll do business with one company that I don't have to argue with. You know guys, the one that has iTunes. I can get all the books I'll ever want to read from iTunes, and I don't have to argue with them. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Adie chalmer...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all Well I am not in the US either and I can tell you that the BBC has featured a piece on the American Authors' Guild and their dog in the manger attitude to this. Some authors have been mentioned in the course of this discussion. Can any of them be persuaded to speak out against this publicly? Can we start a Twitter campaign? Unless we all suddenly win the Lottery, a court case would be difficult and adverse publicity for these people may be another way of approaching it. You have elections coming up in the US, could any candidates be persuaded to speak out against this? How about letters to the NYT and so forth? Does anyone know any journalists who might take this up? I'm sure many of us outside the US would be happy to follow up in our respective countries in any way we can. Do you know, I remember hearing of the Kindle and how many books would be available through it and that it would make such a huge difference to most of our lives overnight, I was literally, bouncing up and down with excitement. Believe me, that doesn't happen very often. Seems to me that the dashing of hopes is one of the cruellest things you can do to people. Hope they sleep nights. Best Adrienne Karen Lewellen wrote: Esther, Two questions. Does the author's guild have statistical evidence that the average mac product user even knows that voiceover is there let alone that they would opt for this behavior? I might point out that audiobooks, commercial ones were not created for the vision challenged population, but for the general public, so the argument -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scrween dims during reading
Are hello guys I am on my screen on my iPhone set to never lock. I'd rather control it myself. That way I don't have to note worry about which way it is. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jenny I am not sure what you were told before, all I can suggest is to go into settings and extend the time that it takes for the screen to lock. You can find this setting under General. I typically have mine set to 5min. I have it set for this period partly to get around the issue you mentioned. Garth @BlindTechMusing this On 25/03/2012, at 12:32 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know I asked about this before but when I did what I was told it didn't change anything. I use the 2 finger flick to read mail and if the nessage is too long the screen sins in the middle of reading and stops reading. This is a 3GS. Can someone help? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think all this really boils down to, does the screen real estate make the apps more fluid in their use, and you seem to say yes. Me, I'm not so sure. I honestly believe this is completely subjective, and also depends on what kind of apps your using. For example, garageband is much more enjoyable on an iPad, than an iPhone. But, I've met many blind people who prefer the smaller screen because its easier to pin point elements on the screen in a given app. Honestly, its just all about the screen, price, and the phone aspect. If your comparing an iPhone 4s to the New iPad, there is indeed more RAM but, I doubt this would really make much of a difference for most users. IOS manages resources so well, its almost a non issue. And, if you were to hold out for the next iPhone, it would almost certainly be running a similar processor under clocked, with the same amount of RAM. I think where the iPad really shines is in that market that use to belong to the netbook. Its relatively cheap, versatile, and ultra portable, with great battery life. I would much rather type out an e-mail on an iPad than an iPh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Kindle App on iPhone
Hi guys Karen, doesn't sound like we're talking about what you care. It sounds like we're talking about emotions. That's a very difficult thing to come back. I have you decided decided if I wanted to weigh in on this topic, but I would like to say that there's no way I would give people information about my blindness just to do business with them. I have to get the government information about that occasionally, but I see no reason to do that for those who have no business knowing. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Esther, Two questions. Does the author's guild have statistical evidence that the average mac product user even knows that voiceover is there let alone that they would opt for this behavior? I might point out that audiobooks, commercial ones were not created for the vision challenged population, but for the general public, so the argument that a vision challenged person would opt for a voiceover edition instead of a commercial one, seems well silly. They have figures to document what percentage of the billions of audiobooks sold are sold to individuals with vision loss? After all, that population was serviced via nls and other programs for decades, with commercial audio books selling just fine. lastly, would not creating an access specific format not solve that issue then? there would be no risk of random audio hungry people learning how to use voiceover just so they can avoid listening to a real person read an audio book. Not picking on you, just wanting your thoughts since you understand their logic. Karen On Sat, 24 Mar 2012, James Mannion wrote: Which is why this stupid nonsense will probably rob us of access in the name of their closed minded greed until the old members of the gild all die and we get minds in there with open minds to a moddern world perspective. The good part is there excessive greed will put them under extra stress which will drive them to the grave sooner. On 3/22/12, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Ray, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver wouldn't read information
Hi guys I thought I am interrupted with it but I can't remember for sure where I interacted. However, I did discovered that I could use the universal access up a menu to do it. I had to do it again, and that's what I did. It works fine that way. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Dr. Nancy Badger Ph.D. nancywyma...@gmail.com wrote: Did you interact with the dialog box? I have found that sometimes it will type if I don't interact with it, and other times I have to interact before I type. I know that sounds weird, just my experience. Nancy On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi again guys. This question is for the future because my mother read the screen and solved the problem by telling me where my cursor was. My sister has a Wi-Fi network, and I wanted to join it. I got the choices, but VoiceOver wouldn't read the information in the dialog boxes no matter what I did. It kept reading the contents of my desktop. At one point, I was on the place to type in the password, but VoiceOver never said so. When my mother told me my cursor was there and I typed it, then it joined right away. I have never had this happen before, although I haven't joined too many networks. Eventually I will want to join hotel networks or maybe a public one somewhere? Does anyone have a clue why VoiceOver would behave like this? I tried several settings to see if that was the problem. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Please help with dimmed button
Hi guys It seems to me that I remember that you can't run zoom and voice over together. If that's true I'm can you have the ability to turn voiceover off temporarily to see if you could use soon then. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Christine Pierce chrissiepoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I downloaded a game, and I want to zoom the screen so I can see the game to play it. But, somehow, the zoom button is dimmed. I can’t seem to undim it. Does anyone know how to undim a button? Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple accessibility support phone number.
Hi guys Oh, I would like to commend Apple for doing that wonderful, time-saving, and stress relieving thing!!! As one who spent an hour and a half last time with Apple Care talking to three people and then ended up with a five minute Genius Bar appointment, I am ecstatic. I am going to put that number in my contacts right quick. It is very unlikely that both my iPhone and my MacBook Pro will crash at the same time, so I will make real sure I have it! Thanks for letting us know. Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Good news. Apple now has an accessibility support number. it is, 1-877-204-3930. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using your air in public.
Hi Viviana. I think you're being cautious if you have a concern. I think paranoid is when you just won't get your Mac Air out because you're afraid unreasonably. My sighted brother had a laptop stolen from him because two guys worked together. One distracted him and pretended to be hurt; when he put his laptop down and went to help, the other guy took his laptop. He never did get it back as far as I know. I don't have an Air, but I do have a MacBook Pro. I have a case for it that I got from Apple, and when I carry it around, I never leave it in the car or anywhere else. Also, I put my arm through its strap all the time. When I go into a restaurant, I try to choose a booth, partly to accommodate my dog, but partly so I can put my computer case right up next to me. I put it and my purse together, so I am unlikely to leave the both of them. Also, a booth is more secure because a person would really have to work to get to your computer. I'd rather make it hard for them if they are going to get it. If there is not a booth, after getting my dog in place, I tuck my computer case and purse as close under my feet as possible. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, i think you misunderstood me. yes, i have a case for my air and, i also carry it in a backpack. what is my concern is having it stolen right out of my hands. say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the machine and runs off with it. this is my concern. even if i have my hands on it they can still grab it and run. are others afraid of such happening? am i being to paranoid? what do sighted folks do with their expensive machines? do they just use them and not worry about it? i am off to check out these links now. thanks a lot. Vivianna On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these: http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone etc. http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/ CB On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air. now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small size and portability. well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take it out with me to coffee shops etc. i live in a city and am concerned about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting. i went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, it does not work with the air. so, here's my question to you all. do you all take your portable machines out with you? and, if you do, what sort of security measures, if any, do you take? have any of you had problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do? did you get it back? i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the safety of my own home. if i wanted to stay at home, i would have purchased the less costly mini. i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions. thanks much. Vivianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: My I phone goes dim
Hi Jenny I went to look in settings because one time my husband complained about my brightness. I had gotten mine turned weight off down to zero. Most of the time I don't care because I don't need to see the screen anyway. However, I went to look in settings and I discovered that there is a new thing called auto brightness. My iPhone is behaving itself that way, and mind is set to automatic. I didn't notice setting existed, but apparently it can be of help this way. So you might want to go in settings and see what your brightness is. Mine is 50%, and as I said, my automatic setting is turned on. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: When I ue the 2 finger swipe to continuously read an -mail the screen goes dim and it tells me it goes dim and stops reading. Help? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hi GG. When you open pages on your I phone, is there not a button which says how to get started button? I do not know how useful it is as I have not pressed it as yet I am just reading word documents on the phone as required. Kawal. On 12 Mar 2012, at 01:41 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi guys. Can anyone tell me where one can read the VoiceOver directions, assuming there are some, for this, on Pages for the iPhone? I have spent forever looking for information on this, and keep getting stuff for the sighted, and the commands discussed there are mostly useless for us. I through the help list for our sighted friends, and at the bottom it talked about going to accessibility to read up on VoiceOver commands. But when I did that, I may have done something wrong but I never did find a discussion of VoiceOver with Pages on the iPhone or any i device. Any ideas a this? Regards, Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about iBooks
Hi guys I just discovered something about my iPhone that, of course, some of you already know. However, I didn't. I just discovered that my iPhone is by far a better PDF file reader then any of the computers I have, including that Windows computer in the other room. I discovered that I can put a PDF file into iBooks. Here's my question. Because some of those textbooks have workbooks that go with them or questions that the students must answer, does anybody know if iBooks in someway will let you come to make completions? I was thinking of fillable PDF forms when I asked. I have no interest in we writing somebody's book. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Growl doesn't want to growl
Hi guys My brow wanted to ground too much. I finally had to uninstall it. Or rather, I finally had to change it so that it didn't grow at all anymore. Can't I had hardware growler. I tried to change the settings. Mine talked too much and too slow, and kept interrupting voiceover. When I went for a cat genius For appointment earlier couple of weeks ago, the man that help me look it up on their website. They recognize a conflict with voiceover. Great! Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Jean-Claude Provost jc.prov...@dansmacave.com wrote: Hi all, I'm taking a 2nd stab at this to no avail. I removed the Growl.app file, re-installed it from the AppStore, restarted my IMac, in spite of all that, Growl is still useless. That is, When I open it, it opens in the setting window but, when I reach for the Apps tab from the toolbar, there are no applications in the table. I'm running Lion with Apple's latest updates. Are there other Growl-related files other than Growl.app? Maybe I should have removed them when uninstalling. For now, this thing is useless , given that others made it work, I don't understand why it wouldn't work here as well. Any musings would be appreciated as I'm getting to the point I feel like growling or even biting:-) Cheers from Varennes, Qc Canada. Jean-Claude Provost jc.prov...@dansmacave.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Siri on voiceover
Hi guys Is anybody having trouble when you press the home key or the your phone center key with Siri crashing? I don't seem to have a problem if I turn voiceover off, but if I don't turn voiceover off, I sometimes have this problem. I thought this had been changed, but it happened to me this morning. I had to turn Siri off and then turn Siri back on again. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Hi guys Well, I haven't had those problems yet. I have noticed, however, that I think they have deal with the problem of Siri and voice over not liking each other. Yesterday I made a call using Siri, and it didn't make me do it three or four times before I got it done. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: There seems to be a few interesting things happening when coming out of lock screen since the update. For me it's the same. The phone gets activated even though I have put focus on another app. Also I have found myself in editing mode twice now since the update. To be clear, I unlock the screen and try to do something but find that I have been put into editing app mode. It seems to be to do with the timing. You can't unlock the screen and immediately attempt to take an action as you could previously. You need to give the iPhone a second or two. Garth @BlindTech Musing On 10/03/2012, at 7:05 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Siri and voice over coexisting not peacefully all the time
Hi Ricardo I have absolutely no problem with the dictation section that serious thought. However, do you have the same default settings and it came with Siri question or do you have you made changes in it since you got a? Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I honestly haven't had this happen to me. Siri and Voiceover are not tripping over one another. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote: Maybe for the next IOS they need to have a bridge since VO and Siri create a feedback loop just like Jaws and Dragon do if you don't have JSAY or the Old versions of Kurzweil and JAWS when you had to shut off the speech or it crashed. I would let apple know this happens often so they can fix it. Becky On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:16 PM, Jessica wrote: I actually noticed that as well, but didn't disable voiceover, because I didn't think that was causing it. I always wondered what was causing it to get so hung up though; appreciate the tidbit. - Original Message - From: Gigi To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:02 PM Subject: Siri and voice over coexisting not peacefully all the time Hi guys I just had an experience which I would like to bring up. I am having a lot of trouble with pressing the home key to get Siri, and basically crashing Siri. I started turning voiceover off to see if that would help and Siri does work better without voiceover in memory. The only problem might be if Siri brings up a screen that you have to use an voiceover is off. What solutions have any of you guys down for this? Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Siri and voice over coexisting not peacefully all the time
I do that him but if you're not careful the display that Siri puts up there might disappear. 71 time when I did the triple click home. In fact, I couldn't do this at all if there wasn't Patricia triple quit home. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi GIGI, what about turning the speech off by using the three fingered double tap and then turning it back on. I don't have a 4s tet because VZ suddenly changed there contracts so now I have to wait til October to get Siri. But I have a friend who has it and she had the same problem. She does it the way you are doing it now. HTH Becky and C On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I just had an experience which I would like to bring up. I am having a lot of trouble with pressing the home key to get Siri, and basically crashing Siri. I started turning voiceover off to see if that would help and Siri does work better without voiceover in memory. The only problem might be if Siri brings up a screen that you have to use an voiceover is off. What solutions have any of you guys down for this? Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Siri and voice over coexisting not peacefully all the time
Hi guys I just had an experience which I would like to bring up. I am having a lot of trouble with pressing the home key to get Siri, and basically crashing Siri. I started turning voiceover off to see if that would help and Siri does work better without voiceover in memory. The only problem might be if Siri brings up a screen that you have to use an voiceover is off. What solutions have any of you guys down for this? Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Update on weird braille problem
Hi guys Some of you may remember, that I had a problem with my braille display. It was doing weird things like doing reversals on contractions and reversals even on letters typed in missing docs etc. Well, I discovered something I didn't know today, and it may affect anybody who happens to be having any weird problems with their braille display. I think I remember somebody on this list saying they were having some, so here's what I found out. Because I was having such an irritating recurring problem, I decided to take my braille display off of voiceovers list, and didn't reestablish it. Well, that made things better, but I still had a problem. So, after writing Apple, I decided to go for a Genius Bar appointment. I was going for other reasons, and I had to wait. So, not thinking that was going to find out anything, I call that the voiceover utility. Gas what! I found out that although voiceover had my braille display listed as a cat focus 40 using USB, it also said that my key input was no input from primary braille display. I didn't think that could happen with a focus 40 since it has keys, and I thought voiceover decided it was going to use Kinyon puts or not. Well I change this option that didn't solve the problem until I restarted my computer it looks like that my computer in my braille display are getting back together again. So, if any of you are having any weird things going on with your braille display, especially if you have one with braille key for input, you may want to go under displays in the voiceover utilities under the braille option and find out what you're saying is there. Regards, Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: time machine
Hi guys When I do Time Machine backups, and I hope I have interpreted the question correctly, I noticed that there is a long number after the update of the folder and I figured out, that this is the time and date. However, it is written like in military time. For instance, 4 o'clock in the afternoon will be 1600, and then the year after it today in the year after it. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: How do you find out the status of Time machine.Hi all and what it is currently backing up. From the status menu you can see the time machine showing it is prepping for a backup. But there is no time, file/directory being updated, etc? Also, how do you verify what information is being backed up? I have gone into time machine and cannot work out the GUI. It looks like a normal Finder window. The preferences are fine. Any tips are welcomed. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question of Outlook tell recognizer
Hi guys I thought of something that I would like to see if the Look tell Recognizer can do it. If I were to get someone to take a picture of a Dallas area rapid transit bus stop sign, could it learn to recognize them I am getting sick of looking for those things. Today I was standing right next to one, and didn't know it at first. I only found out when this lady looked at the bus schedule. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two More Silly Questions
Call Mike Say thanks for putting together the YouTube video. I gave it a look listen whatever you want to collect, and personally, I think we need, as voiceover users as many of those YouTube videos and we can get out there. That way, people can really learn sometimes before they even get their max. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Ezzie Bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mike, I do use Lion. Could you please send a link to the tutorial on YouTube? Thank you, Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz On Feb 26, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Michael Malarsie wrote: This is what I do for signatures. There is a built in text expander in Lion that you can turn on. Then you can type whatever your signature is and choose that letters will expand to it the hardest part is turning on the expander. I have a YouTube tytorial on it if you are interseted. Again this only works in Lion. Mike Malarsie On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Ezzie Buenito wrote: Hello again, Here are two more silly questions for y'all: 1) How exactly can I get signatures to be pasted at the bottom of each email? I've created signatures, but do not see them in the option in which I would normally select a signature. 2) Where are photos and movie clips from Photo Booth normally stored? Thanks, Ezzie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: editing cell contents in numbers?
Hi guys Do not remember that somebody on this list said that you should interact with the sale in numbers also in order to edit it once you've done VO option enter question mark I ask because I had some trouble imaging in the middle of a sale in numbers Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:43 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: VO + Spacebar also works. Regards Jürgen Am 26.02.2012 um 04:21 schrieb Greg Aikens: Option + Enter should put your cursor in the cell to edit. -Greg On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:37 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, is there a key to edit cell contents in numbers? The standard f2 doesn't work. I checked all through the menus and couldn't find it. I looked in the inspector and it wasn't there either. Appreciate any help. Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I select all on the I pone?
Hi Jenny I have another suggestion about how to speed up the selecting of messages on your iPhone. If you go into settings, and then go to mail can't remember exactly where it is an on settings you can find deselect by conversation. That way you can go into edit when you bring up your inbox, and select the conversations that you don't wish to read this will really speed up the selecting process. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Interesting accessibility experience yesterday
Hi guys Yesterday, I had a little interesting experience with accessibility. I was in the store that, among other things, sells computers. There's a whole bunch of windows computers, and Mac computers I wanted to look up something on the Internet, and I couldn't use the iPhone, but I was standing right next to where the computers were. So I walked up to this MacBook Pro, and press command F5, and looked up some information. Guys those Macintosh computers with the only computers and that whole place I could've used. Anyway let's give some applause to Apple for accessibility also, I've never been able in my whole life to walk up to a computer in the store and make it work. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iOS developing
Hi there Well, if I can make a wish list list, I would like a good, PDF reader/FormFiller out form for the Mac. I got PDF pen but it's partially inaccessible. It would do what I want, except it won't for me. We have talked about something like Kurzweil for the blind program. That can also be on my wish list. We go Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:54 AM, irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm Irid and I'm writing from Italy. I enjoyed the iOS developing program because I wanted to try the accessibility improvements with the beta versions of iOS. Now I would like to do something more: can I, as a blind, develop something for iOS such as applications? thanks in advance. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: unzipping db books
Hi there I never had any use anymore for the zip files for bar books. However, if you want them, you can just copy them from the trash or put them back. To put them back, just press command delete on the zip file and it'll put them back I guess you have noticed by now, but the Mac automatically unzips files that are downloaded. I was pleasantly surprised when I discovered that one! Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Jamil Zuleta chip8...@gmail.com wrote: hey all i have a drive with db books i downloaded from the bard site. The books are zipped i'm not sure how to unzip them. i did it once but not sure how i did it so i know i don't need a unzip software. i also noticed when i download bard books when i look in my download folder the folder is already unzipped. but when i through the folder in the trash both the unzipped and zipped folder are in the trash. i like to keep the zipped folders so i can put it on my drive. where is the zipped folder when i download my book. sorry if this is confusing. thanks in advance for the help. Jamil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IPhone issues.
Hi Jessica Have you tried restarting your iPhone question mark to do this what you need to do is to practice to hold down the power key into Univoice over come on, whether it's in English or in Spanish. We here voiceover talk, and butter what languages Jim, it's probably saying to double tap to shut the iPhone they'll tap anywhere on the screen with one finger. Wait for probably a couple of minutes, then hold down the power key and count to say 10. That way, you will be sure that the Apple logo is coming up. You will need to wait maybe a couple of minutes for voiceover to come up hopefully it will come up in the language you have chosen which I guess is English. Why fuck that but I guess that's what you said. Good luck with it Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Jessica stevies...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I finally got my IPhone, somewhat got it activated, but now, even though shows my network, at the top of the screen, it says locked, and voiceover is now speaking a mixture of Spanish and English and I can do nothing with the phone. However, when I double tap on the lock, symbol, it just chirps at me, and continues to say locked, Can anyone help with this? Are you looking for a free home based business that will also pay you a good income? Most likely, the answer is yes, so if that is the case then come check out Tmi wireless! We're an internet sales and marketing company that sells a variety of items including cel phones and plans with carriers you already know, and you're payed a comission from every sale you make! Check out http://www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/164753 and learn how to make money doing something you already do daily! to learn more, visit: http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=43270 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Stop repeating music on Iphone
Hi guys If I remember correctly, right above where the song name is, there should be an option there if you touch it on your iPhone, it says repeat and if you split tap a double tap on it, it should say on shuffle and I think another on their saying repeat all. I had trouble finding it, but once I did Colmont it works fine. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Gena Harper g...@genaharper.com wrote: Hi Everyone, For some reason, in my music on my Iphone 4S, it is stuck on repeat. I have tried to look everywhere to figure out how to turn this feature off. Please let me know if you have any ideas. Thanks, Gena - Original Message - From: Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:15 AM Subject: Re: How do I read an e-book on the I-phone? No, I'm using an app called Deseret Bookshelf. I know it's not an ap that's well known but can I transfer that book to the i-book reader? Thanks, Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote: What are you using to read the book? iBooks I assume? If so, just swipe down with two fingers to start reading continuously. Also, make sure you have the latest iBooks installed. On 2/23/12, Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: I downloaded an e-book on my I-phone and I can read the first page but I can't make it go to the next pages. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've never done this before. Thanks for your help in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I think you press command enter or, command shift enter. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a single hot key to open a link to a new tab instead of replacing the current window. right now, I use Shift-VO-m to open a context menu and then choose 'open in new tab.' Is there a single key to do this like VO-Space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Tables [was:] Re: numbers
Y hi guys I have had some success with attitude on the end of a sale on what I do to make sure that I don't erase the whole thing, is to press command right arrow on my MacBook Pro, and then I can backspace out on the end and delete text-only in. A few instances have I been able to successfully edit in the middle of a sale in numbers Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: OK, that's interesting. I thought you might do it this way. So it is not possible to change just a part of the content of a cell. You have to change the whole content. I opened an excel file with several sheets in Tables and tried to switch between the sheets by pressing CMD + Option + arrow right or left. It didn't work. Tables was always busy. Do you have experiences with switching sheets in Tables? Did it work for you? Jürgen Am 23.02.2012 um 17:51 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: When I want to change the contents of a particular cell, I position the cursor on the data-entry field. Then, I arrow over to the cell that I want to edit. Next, I press the delete (back-space) key to delete the cell's contents. Finally, I type in the new information that I wish to store in that cell. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger [apple-engl...@fleger.net] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:47 AM To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries Subject: Tables [was:] Re: numbers No Rafael, that's not what I asked for. I know how to enter data. But I want to change existing data in the cells. Imagine you have an address of a friend in a cell. His telephone number changes and you want to change just the number. How to do this in Tables? I don't see this important possibility accessible with VoiceOver. Again: how to change specific data in a cell? Not entering data in an empty cell. That's easy. Hopefully my question is clearer now. Jürgen Am 22.02.2012 um 16:26 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: Tables has a data entry field. That is where data are entered into each cell. If you cannot find the data entry field on your own, you may benefit from sighted help to find it the first time. Place your cursor in the field, making sure VO is not locked. You can then type or paste in data and formulae. If you type in the data entry field, press the return (enter) key to get the data into the cell. The arrow keys are used to move between c -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Tables [was:] Re: numbers
Hi guys I know I may be one of the weird folks out there, but I actually like wordprocessors better for inputting data like phone numbers. Dismiss this is because, even in Windows, I have found getting around a spreadsheet with speech to be a pain pain However, if I were going to do that, am you can copy a cell to text edit and edit the thing and paste it back into a sale. Cats so it's not that it's an accessible with voiceover, it's just not is easy to do Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: No Rafael, that's not what I asked for. I know how to enter data. But I want to change existing data in the cells. Imagine you have an address of a friend in a cell. His telephone number changes and you want to change just the number. How to do this in Tables? I don't see this important possibility accessible with VoiceOver. Again: how to change specific data in a cell? Not entering data in an empty cell. That's easy. Hopefully my question is clearer now. Jürgen Am 22.02.2012 um 16:26 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: Tables has a data entry field. That is where data are entered into each cell. If you cannot find the data entry field on your own, you may benefit from sighted help to find it the first time. Place your cursor in the field, making sure VO is not locked. You can then type or paste in data and formulae. If you type in the data entry field, press the return (enter) key to get the data into the cell. The arrow keys are used to move between cells. Rafael On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hello Rafael, thanks for your hints. So far Tables works fine. But what I meant was how to edit a cell and change inserted content. That doesn't work here for me. As far as I could find out I have to enter the edit mode of a chosen cell by pressing F2. VO anounces edit. But then it's not possible to read or delete single characters or to navigate through the content of a cell just by using the arrow keys. Of course I can navigate by using VO + arrow keys but. I should say that I use a sheet like a two dimensional notepad. I don't use it as a calculator and so I don't need formulas in a cell. But to take notes and so I enter a lot of text in it. So it's quite important for me to delete parts of the text and enter new content. So: How do you delete parts of text in a cell and how to enter just one word in a text of a cell? Deleting a whole cell is easily possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: numbers
Hi guys I have also had some success using the trackpad with numbers. I use it carefully, because sometimes it does things I don't want it today. However I have some big number spiles. If I want to go to the bottom of them, that seems to be the best way to do it. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: If you are using an Intel-based Mac, then the first thing to do when you open the Tables application is to get the cursor out of the table. Press Shift, Control, Option, up-arrow together, in order to get out of the table where the cursor is pointing. Press this key combination again to get out of the spreadsheet. Do these things first, or the following instructions won't make sense. Basically, there are two ways to read a cell's contents in Tables. The first way is to place the cursor over the field in which one enters numbers, formulae, and so on. If you choose this option, make sure VO is not locked, so that you can use the arrow keys to move from cell to cell (i.e., left arrow to move to the left, bottom arrow to move down, etc.). This is a simple option that allows you to navigate from cell to cell, to read each cell's contents, and to enter data into individual cells, all from the data-entry field. The second way to move around in Tables is somewhat more complicated. To make things easier, first lock VO (by pressing control-option-semicolon). Next, enter the spreadsheet, by pressing shift and the down-arrow key together. At this level, you will be able to move the VO cursor with the arrow keys and read the letters designating the columns (i.e., Column A, Column B, etc.), as well as the row numbers (i.e., Row 1, Row 2, etc.). To access the individual cells, navigate to the table (VO says table when you've found it). With VO still locked, press the shift and down-arrow keys together again. That will put you in the table of cells, from which point onward you can just use the arrow keys to navigate from cell to cell. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'll do my best to try to answer them. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger [apple-engl...@fleger.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: numbers Hi Rafael, I tried Tables and it's much faster to work with then with Numbers. But what I didn't understand was how to read text in a cell. I pressed F2 to edit the cell and couldn't have VO to read text by pressing arrow keys. Did I something wrong or does Tables not support VO that much? All the best Jürgen Am 20.02.2012 um 18:24 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: If your spreadsheet needs are not very complicated, you might wish to consider Tables. It's the spreadsheet app that I use on the Mac, and I really like it. It has all the usual functions, and you can enter your own formulae, as well. You can save your work as xl files, too. Creating graphs is somewhat limited, however. Rafael Bejarano On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:16 AM, May McDonald wrote: Good day everyone. Well, I guess I can't avoid it any longer. Drn school stuff. Is there a place where I could find tutorials on how to use numbers? Or can anyone recommend a good program that handles excel files if numbers is not the best to use? Thanks, May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.commailto:mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Re: transfering n.l.s. books to the mac:
Hello Well, I guess I do it all. I do so my books, but I do read a lot of NLS books. I always have. I guess us old folks just have a problem making changes sometimes. I've been doing it since 1962, so who knows if I can make the change completely. I also like Whimbreel, although I haven't used it lately. I do too much braille reading all my job, so I want to relax with my books. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone, i wanted to reply to the individuals for who wanted to transfer n.l.s. books from their s.d. cards onto their mac's. could you just go to the app store and download i-book application onto your mac and then just get your books from there or even use blio! as a back up. would that be easier for you to use. or is it just that you enjoy using the n.l.s. format?. as for me! i just use the i-book application on my i-phone 4.s. or blio to read my books. it takes not as much time to download then to transfer the book from you s.d. card onto the mac. That's just for me! and what i prefer. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with Growl
R hi Jennifer I ended up having to restart my computer. I guess I really should say that I shut it down taking out all the windows. When I started my computer back up, growl brought up the preferences when I call up the program. You might try that and see if that helps. It did help mine. I still haven't completely got growled away I want it, but it's better than it was. Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to use the arrows with VO to navigate the preference pains and then click on other it doesn't click on the correct thing even though I interact with it. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong. I checked out universal access and that didn't seem to get me what I needed either. Should I uninstall Growl at this point? If so, how do I reinstall it since it is an app? I'm really confused as to why it won't let me get into its own preferences. I just says it's funning in the background and won't let me get to its preferences at all no matter which methods I use. Thanks for your help again. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Jennifer! Well hope this is useful! Open the main menu with either vo+m or control+f2 then when sitting on the Apple menu scroll down to system pref's and vo+space or return! In the next window you will have to just arrow once to the preference pain and interact with it! And in there is lots of selections for you to go into if needed! I.E. keyboard, accounts, Bluetooth and others! usually the last one is universal access but Growl should be after this under the heading of [others] and it should say growl button! vo+space on that and you should get into growl to see what you can do! If you have not had much use of system pref's there is things you might want to look at in there! And do not forget the only dumb question is one that is not asked! :] People will try to help if they can! Colin On 19 Feb 2012, at 12:31, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Universal access, I'm sorry but I'm not sure exactly what that is? Could you explain what that is and how to get to it please. All I know is that when I am sitting on growl and I use command , it goes straight to the OS 10 preferences and if I use the VO m command for the apple menu to go to preferences it jumps to another apple menu entirely. thanks for your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding books to my nls cartrige on the mac
Hi there You can do it but be careful. First, you need to delete that extra stuff you were talking about. Connect your cartridge to your man, go to the empty trash item and delete all the trash this phone this will delete all the extra stuff you were talking about I do this every time I get ready to put more NLS books on. Here is the only caution I have. When you are going to copy your books, then if voiceover says busy press control will be to copy and turn voiceover off. Then wait and wait. Most of the time, I can hear the cartridge turn off when the copy is complete This should do it for you. I did damage one of my cartridges are not following the procedures that I mentioned. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Angie Giltinan rox0...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I have struggled with this question since i got my mac, over a half a year ago. when I put books on my nls cartrige mac installs a bunch of random junk on the cartrige. so my question is this, what's the best method you use for coppying content to your nls cartrige, or stream, or other book player. I've found that when you delete a book, it adds stuff, to your media, I'm kind of frustrated at this point, but there's got to be a way! Thanks in advance! Angie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: PDFPen
Hi Scott Okay, I will do that. I guess that means I need to keep the program, with the hope that they will get it fixed. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Please write to the developers. I have ben working with them on this and the more folks they know want such functionality the more likely it will be addressed sooner than later. They are aware of the accessibility issues and trying to balance all of their priorities, so let them know. On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. It was suggested to me that I get a program from the AP Store called PDFpen. After looking at it, I got the pro version because the other didn't seem to have what I wanted. Now this program seems to be a better PDF reader than Preview. However, I can't seem to get it to do the one thing I wanted, which what every sighted person can do, fill out the form I called up. I was kind of afraid of this when I got it. Has anybody used this program (which seems to work fine with VoiceOver if you want to create a PDF file.) Gigi, who is beginning to hate PDF files and who is having a bad accessibility day -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Funny Siri story
Hi guys I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me two or three times, I snapped at her. I said those California guys need to do a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. After giving me back what I had said, she said give me another chance. Well, she didn't give me the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was laughing so much it didn't matter. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Funny Siri story
Hi again guys Yes, I asked Siri also about Presidents' Day. When she came back and said that she hoped I would get the day off, I took it a step further. I told her I wasn't going to get it off. I was hoping she would commiserate with me, but she told me she didn't understand what I said. Too bad! I was hoping to get sympathy from somewhere! Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a funny siri story too, I asked siri what date President's Day was this year, and she said the date, then proceeded to say I hope I get off that day. For those of you who aren't in the U.S., people usually get off of work and school on President's Day. I just thought that was funny what siri said. Courtney On 05/02/2012, at 12:01 in the Afternoon, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Gigi, Thank you so much for the laugh. I also have a funny story as I asked Siri what the time was in another part of the world, and after she told me, she asked if there was anything going on in that part of the world as I had asked her the same question for a number of days. I said to her that she was nosy and she said if you insist Kawal. That also cracked me up. On 5 Feb 2012, at 16:32, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me two or three times, I snapped at her. I said those California guys need to do a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. After giving me back what I had said, she said give me another chance. Well, she didn't give me the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was laughing so much it didn't matter. Regards Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: aligning text wit tabs in text edit
Hi there You may have gotten already an answer, but I do this all the time in TextEdit. What you have to do is to select all your text, then I do VO left arrow and it says ruler. Then, you find your text tab stops on the ruler you Crestvilla no delete for any that you don't want and then you move the ones around that you didn't want him I can't remember. I can't remember for sure, but I think you have to interact with them when you change the tabs. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, How does one align text with tabs in text edit? To be more precise,I have a list of pieces and on the same line the composers. Titles are of different lengths so pressing tab you end up needing a different amount of them to get to same place in the line. Hope this makes some sense. With jaws you would hear your position from left margin. Anything similar in lion? Thanks for your help! Ioana Gandrabur Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The new Airport Utility and a question about connections
Hey guys Maybe somebody addressed this, but what is this AirPort Utility for? Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:20 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: The interface has changed to appear like the iOS app. You need to interact with the network group and then the name of your router. If you want to make changes to anything, you will find an edit button. All of the usual buttons for Internet, Wireless, disks, etc, are there. They are in different places. You need to explore and get used to the interface. I am actually finding it nicer. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Bill Holton wrote: Hi. Has anyone tried the updated Airport Utility. It seems rather inaccessible to me. Once I found a way into the menus with bay station, wireless, etc. but I can’t find my way back there. Before, I had a 2 tarabyte drive partitioned into two 1t drives connected to my airport extreme and I could se them both on my desktop. I had all the ports on the extreme filled and had to use the Mini wirelessly, so I moved the drive to directly connected to mmy mini where they also worked fine. Now I have my mini connected with a wired connection, want to move them back. I can find the drive I use for my time machine backups, but the other drive simply will not show up. I reformatted it with Mac Journaling, and I have looked everywhere. I use the Finer to go to my computer, to network, to my airport, it’s just not there. I did get into the airport software yesterday and make sure the box is checked to connect external drives. For now the drives are labeled test and TM for time machine. On my desktop the TM drives shows up, but it’s called Time Machine backups. The Test drive will not show up. Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about email on iPhone
If you set the iPhone to get messages in thread, how do you read this once you find the thread? I can get the messages to come up it'll tell me that there are so many in the thread, but then doesn't open the messages if I choose the Fred Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Got Siri
Hi guys I really appreciate everybody's input on this. I got the book that Lynn recommended. It's a great book. I really need to tell you guys this sort of amusing situation that happened today. This acquaintance of mine, that I see once in a while at a meeting told me she was an iPhone failure. She had gotten an iPhone for it and just decided she couldn't do it. This blind gal said I have to have someone show me today I was about to open my mail and ask her if she brought her iPhone so I can help her with it, when she said I got Siri last week and I love it explained! Then she started telling me about all we have she had including look tell money reader, and several others I couldn't believe it Regards GGIGI last week I going Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hi. I come late to this thread. You can say paragraph rather than new line new line. Kawal. On 18 Jan 2012, at 09:28 PM, Emrah li...@kavun.ch wrote: Hey there, You just speak your punctuation. E.g.: Hello, comma, New Line, New Line How are you, Question Mark? I am doing well, exclamation point! See you soon, comma, I'll write again if I don't hear back from you, period. On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I just got Siri today and I don't really know what I'm doing my first question is how does one put in periods and commas and return I did what I thought was right but I don't think anything is regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
Hi guys I haven't followed too closely on this thread, because I wasn't sure that I could make any intelligent comments. However, I would like to say that I really wish somebody would develop better a GPS for us! Last night, I was messing with the GPS on the iPhone. You know, the one that comes with it. I got Siri to put in the address because my husband had it on his iPhone. Of course, it brought up the map and I chose Gaubert by bus. The problem is as you know, the app tells you to walk to the bus stop and probably shows a map of doing that. However, it also tells you to walk to your destination after you get off the bus stop, giving no details of how to get there, at least I couldn't figure out any verbally. Me and my seeing-eye dog have been traveling around for 42 years successfully. However, the last thing I need is complications on mobility with dealing with the computer. Therefore I am the kind of person that would keep a developer in business. I don't want to even want to look at a map! Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the experts, the knowledgeable ones. /Krister 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah: This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions. Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it said At the roundabout, take the second exit. This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin. Cheers! On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users it was as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then learn it. /Krister 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Got Siri
E hi Lynn Thanks for the information, but I couldn't get the link to work. I went to iTunes separately and it searches there, but I didn't find it. Sometime today, when I get a chance, I will try the link on my MacBook Pro and see if it'll work that way Sent am really loving this dictation thing with Siri! Regards Gigi my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:47 AM, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Gigi, if you want commas and periods in your text, just say them. Here is an example: Hello comma ,my name is Gigi and I'm learning to use Siri period. To learn more Siri tricks and techniques, I would suggest a book which you can purchase and download from the iTunes store called Talking To Siri which was, if I remember correctly, 4 dollars and some change: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 There are many podcasts out there that might help you, one of which was done by Jonathan Mosen. The thing about many of those podcasts, however, is that they were recorded when Siri was new and we all were just learning, so they were sort of seat of the pants if you know what I mean. Good luck, and my advice is to keep practicing because you and Siri will get to know each other with time and will work together better and better if you stick with it. On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I just got Siri and I have a question how does one put commas and periods into your dictation of mine seems to go without any dots are starts or anything thanks I had a time regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: And Finally! A Loadstone like GPS solution on the iPHone
Hi Ricardo Yes, I know that the app does not give turn by turn directions. I would except that if it did, trust me. However, the verbal directions that are written out are incomplete. Because as far as I can see, there is no way to get it written out the directions Eagertho go to the bus stop or what to do after you get off. Now, the good thing is, at least the app assumes that if sign people had to put up with the things we have to put up with for GPS programs, they would be using paper maps. Just my two cents on the subject. Regards Gig ithat you might want to ride the bus. I really think Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But the maps app doesn't give turn by turn directions while traveling. It just gives a list of directions. You need to by an app with spoken turn by turn directions like, Navigon, Tom Tom, or motion GPS drive.. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I haven't followed too closely on this thread, because I wasn't sure that I could make any intelligent comments. However, I would like to say that I really wish somebody would develop better a GPS for us! Last night, I was messing with the GPS on the iPhone. You know, the one that comes with it. I got Siri to put in the address because my husband had it on his iPhone. Of course, it brought up the map and I chose Gaubert by bus. The problem is as you know, the app tells you to walk to the bus stop and probably shows a map of doing that. However, it also tells you to walk to your destination after you get off the bus stop, giving no details of how to get there, at least I couldn't figure out any verbally. Me and my seeing-eye dog have been traveling around for 42 years successfully. However, the last thing I need is complications on mobility with dealing with the computer. Therefore I am the kind of person that would keep a developer in business. I don't want to even want to look at a map! Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: But before the app can guide you back to your destination, or for that matter anywhere else, you actually have to draw a map yourself of the way you want to go, as far as i understand the loadstone concept, and i could be totally wrong here, but i want to have maps drawn for me and then follow them, i don't want to go fumbling around in foreign teritories and then try drawing up some kind of map especially not if you have to provide lat and long coordinates yourself. As i said earlier call me lazy but and this is why i don't like opensource at all, i want a program that's ready and that works, i don't want to make the program myself, because i am an idiot when it comes to programming in any shape or form. I just want the thing to work. I'll gladly leave programming, map drawing and other such stuff to the experts, the knowledgeable ones. /Krister 18 jan 2012 kl. 22:06 skrev Emrah: This is definitely not an app where you can input an address and expect to be guided to it. I would love to find an app that would work well with VoiceOver and provide accurate pedestrian navigation instructions. Last time I used Navigon in pedestrian mode, I felt like an idiot when it said At the roundabout, take the second exit. This app is great to find directions in large open spaces. If you have a guide dog and like having nice refreshing walks together, this app opens new horizons to you and your friend. You can just walk freely in any open area and ask the app to guide you back to your point of origin. Cheers! On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: But as i understand it, you have to put in your own points and stuff yourself, this is why i never used loadstone, because if you hadn't made points yourself or if there weren't readymade maps, made by users it was as good as useless. Call me lazy if you will, but i'd much rather prefer walking a readymade rout to learn it than first have to build the route then learn it. /Krister 18 jan 2012 kl. 18:33 skrev Emrah: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Bluetooth Keyboard for iPhone 4?
Hi Johnny and Others. I went to the Apple store and got the Apple Wireless Keyboard. The only thing you need to know ahead of time is that the battery power key on the righthand side does not let you know when it's off and on if you're blind. You can easily work around this, but I ran the battery down the first time until I was told by Apple that I did have to turn it off manually. Sometimes, if you turn it off first before telling the iPhone to turn Bluetooth on and off. Since Apple said that you have to hold the power key down about three seconds, I work around this by hold it down and counting to ten. II do this for turning it on and off, and it works fine. I do have a bblind friend who got a keyboard from Fries that folds in half. Someone told me they thought those were prone to breaking, so I didn't go that route. This one from Apple is like having a little Mac keyboard, so you can do the VO keys. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 5:45 AM, Michael Busboom m...@busboom.at wrote: Hello Johnny, If I were you, I wouldn't purchase the keyboard to which I referred. Firstly, it is rather difficult to feel when your finger moves from one key to the next. Although it is a qwerty keyboard, it is, for lack of a better expression, misaligned. In other words, the 'm' isn't where you would expect it to be, i.e. right below, and slightly to the right of the 'j.' Secondly, there is no way to invoke VO commands since the Option key can only be invoked when you use the modifier with one of the alphanumeric characters. I think that I will go to an Apple store soon and see if I can't do better. :) Best regards, Mike . On 17,Jan,2012, at 7:29 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: Hi Mike, I was wondering how you made out with the keyboard you wrote about in your post below. I too am looking for a keyboard for use with my I-phone 4S. I had been looking at the Freedom I-Connex and the Apple bluetooth keyboard, but have yet to make up my mind. Since the keyboard you are looking at is make for the I-phone, I assume that it has all of the necessary keys that are needed for the i-devices? Johnny On Dec 15, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, Since I find it very difficult to enter data on my iPhone, I am considering buying a bluetooth keyboard that, apparently, has been designed specifically for the iPhone. I was told that this bluetooth keyboard is made by a company called Boxwave and that is designed in such a way to enable the iPhone and keyboard to basically fit in one case. Has anyone had any experience with this product and are there any gotchas, as far as VO is concerned? Thanks and best regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Johnny Angel! beefca...@neo.rr.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Got Siri
Hi guys I just got Siri and I have a question how does one put commas and periods into your dictation of mine seems to go without any dots are starts or anything thanks I had a time regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Got Siri
Hi guys I just got Siri today and I don't really know what I'm doing my first question is how does one put in periods and commas and return I did what I thought was right but I don't think anything is regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Got Siri
Thanks Amrona I will try and do that. Let me tell you how my session went at ADT and tea. It was kind of interesting. The gentleman that sold me the Siri phone turned out to be the same person that taught me to use the iPhone's at that time, he spent three hours letting me use the managers phone. I learned Dixired well there and when I got there I found out it was him it was going to work with me. He remembered me from there. Of course begin having spent all that time. I had brought my MacBook Pro with me figuring that I might need to use iTunes. It was a good thing I did because it made the transition very easy. We put in all my everything he turned out to be a sided MacUser. Therefore I let him use my MacBook Pro to help me get everything in there. I had some trouble, because of my computer didn't go to the website very quick easily for some reason. But we got that resolved Regards Gigi a Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Emrah li...@kavun.ch wrote: Hey there, You just speak your punctuation. E.g.: Hello, comma, New Line, New Line How are you, Question Mark? I am doing well, exclamation point! See you soon, comma, I'll write again if I don't hear back from you, period. On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys I just got Siri today and I don't really know what I'm doing my first question is how does one put in periods and commas and return I did what I thought was right but I don't think anything is regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To play midi files on a mac.
Hi Ricardo. Ok, as soon as I can. In addition to working today, I have a genius appointment, so it will be a little later before I can sit down and do it over again. The best I remember, I went to load existing file, found one of my Midi files and chose it. Then I got the message that Garage Band could not play the Midi files. I find it strange that it wouldn't play the file even though it recognized the kind of file I had. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm not sure but, I doubt you did anything wrong. What an odd message to receive from garageband. If its not too much trouble, could you share the exact steps you took? Thanks. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 15, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi Ricardo. As far as I know, I have whatever the latest is. I am under Lion and I have been careful as as I know how to update everything. I've never messed with Garage Band, so maybe I did something wrong. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Really? What version of garageband are you using? It should work. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
reason I need a genius appointment
Hi guys. For those of you who are planning to do presentations, don't do what I did, but then again, maybe most of you are smarter than me and won't dream of doing something this stupid. The Apple Corps connected their video projector device and the audio device so everyone could see my screen. No problem, until that is, yours truly, without shutting down the computer or turning of VoiceOver just pulled out all the connectors, including the braille display. I had a little problem when I took out the audio and then plugged into the iPhone, but trouble was immediate the minute I disconnected everything from the Mac. Some of the sighted lion tamers present came over, and we thought we had resolved the problem. I had to hold down the power key to restart the computer. Everything looked ok. However, now I can't fully use my email. I tried with Apple Care last night, but of course, you would know that my computer refused to download that program they have to see the screen with. We tried everything we could think of, but the real problem was that he couldn't figure my screen without seeing it, and I could only provide guesses. We tried some resets, and they didn't work either. So, I'm off to the Apple store this evening with a genius appointment at 5. I hope they can fix it right away. I think I've messed up the screen display so that VoiceOver can't see everything right there. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To play midi files on a mac.
Hi again Ricardo. I hope I don't sound too dense, but I thought of doing it that way. I saw all those choices when you choose new project. Where do you put your VO cursor so you can press command V? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just copy and paste. For example, I would find the midi file in the finder, copy it with command C then open garageband. Create a new project and then press command V to paste. Pressing space bar should then play the midi file. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Gigi wrote: Hi Ricardo. Ok, as soon as I can. In addition to working today, I have a genius appointment, so it will be a little later before I can sit down and do it over again. The best I remember, I went to load existing file, found one of my Midi files and chose it. Then I got the message that Garage Band could not play the Midi files. I find it strange that it wouldn't play the file even though it recognized the kind of file I had. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm not sure but, I doubt you did anything wrong. What an odd message to receive from garageband. If its not too much trouble, could you share the exact steps you took? Thanks. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 15, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi Ricardo. As far as I know, I have whatever the latest is. I am under Lion and I have been careful as as I know how to update everything. I've never messed with Garage Band, so maybe I did something wrong. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Really? What version of garageband are you using? It should work. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To play midi files on a mac.
Hi Ricardo. As far as I know, I have whatever the latest is. I am under Lion and I have been careful as as I know how to update everything. I've never messed with Garage Band, so maybe I did something wrong. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Really? What version of garageband are you using? It should work. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Annie. I guess I am about to be on another Mac adventure I haven't done yet. I can't figure out how you did this. I would like be able to hear my midi files I have, and the procedure you said sounded easy until I tried it. If you create a new project, where do you paste those files so that Garage Band will play them. I tried to get it to play them, and I was told that Garage Band could not play midi files. Confused, Gigi On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi Chris. I figured out that you can create a new project, and then paste the midifile into garageband, when you will not have to import it into itunes. Best regards Annie. Den Jan 12, 2012 kl. 4:50 PM skrev Chris Blouch: Yup, just verified that I could do this in GarageBand. I had to load the midi file into iTunes so I could then find it in the Media Browser in Garage Band. Once I found it in there I did a copy and then went to the Arrange Layout Area, interacted with that and the interacted with the track headers group and then did a paste. That brought in the midi file with all of it's track. After that if you VO to the LCD group after the set of play/record checkboxes, you can interact with that and find the LCD mode popup button. One of those is called 'project'. Once you've picked that you can voiceover to the LCD Summary Group and in there is the tempo and keychange settings. Oh, and just past the LCD thingy you'll find a checkbox to turn off the metronome which was on by default for me. Hope this helps. CB On 1/12/12 8:33 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. Is there a good and accessible program, that lets you play midi on a mac, it would be nice, if you also could control the tempo and it would be fantastic, if you also could transpose a midifile? Are there some accessible software synthesizers too? Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Demonstrating the iPhone to a larger audience
Hi Michael. I am about to do this tomorrow here in Dallas to the Apple Corps of Dallas. I am also going to show the Mac. The Apple ?Corps has its own big screens and its own Wi-Fi. Almost all of them have iPhones and iPads. Only one other person in the room besides me is blind. Although it will increase some chatter in the room, I am going to show them how to turn on VoiceOver on their iPhones and do some activities like add my name into their contacts and whatever fun things we want to do. I know they can cheat a little by looking at the keyboard, but it will show them some. I am also going to show them how to do the practice screen in VoiceOver. I thought about doing this because I wa told that my 4 iPhone could not do video but the 4S can. I can't get one of them until later this month. Do your audience have iPhones? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 13, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Michael Busboom m...@busboom.at wrote: Dear listers, In two months, I will be visiting my family in the U.S. While there, I will be doing a demonstration of access technology for blind people. While it won't be difficult to demo screen reader techniques on a Mac, I am still not sure how to demo VO on an iPhone. Most of the people in my audience will be sighted, and they will want to see what is going on on the screen while I work with the unit. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might be able to project the image of the iPhone screen onto a large wall screen so that people could see what was happening on the phone as I used it? Many thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Matlab
Hi Lindsay. I have the latest version of Numbers. Here are some things I really like about it over Excel. Let's say you want to add a column of numbers. After you have put in your numbers in a column, you just go to Insert and then choose function. Then the first one on the list is sum. You don't have to type in the formula. It's got averaging and multiplying in there as well, and I can't remember what else. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino lindsay3...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Gigi. What version of Numbers are you using? Lindsay On 1/11/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Lindsay. I haven't used matlab, but I am using Numbers a lot. My use of Numbers improved immensely when I discovered headers, both for rows and columns. You can choose how many you want of either one, and VoiceOver will say the headers just like the Windows screen readers. Regards, Gigi On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: Hi Everyone, I am wondering if any of you have had experience running MATLAB with VoiceOver, and could give me any input on its accessibility. I do research in cognitive neuroscience, and make frequent and robust use of MATLAB and Excel. I have up to this point been using Windows for both of these applications, but would like to utilize the Mac environment if such is practical and efficient. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks. Lindsay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
