VS Code

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

Does anybody out here have a tutorial on using VS Code with Voiceover?

I’ve been Googling, but haven’t been able to find one.

I’m looking to move to VS Code from Textedit, but finding myself stuck in all 
kinds of ways.

Thx,
Jeff

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Re: Facebook Mobile Site (Again)

[Jeff Berwick]

I also noticed this a while ago and, like you, it did come back for a while.  I 
wrote an angry email to Facebook about it just before it came back.  I thought 
that had some impact, but perhaps it didn’t ;)

I originally thought it was just me, but it seems like this is more widespread 
and may be rolled out across the whole user base at some point.

I’ve switched over to just using the Facebook mobile app on my iPhone which 
seems accessible.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hello,
> 
> I asked a while ago about the Facebook mobile site being down. Then it came 
> back for a time.
> 
> But for the last several days I’ve not been able to access it at all. 
> m.facebook.com just redirects to the main Facebook site.
> 
> I’ve not seen anyone else mention this so I’m wondering if I’m alone in this. 
> I’ve also not seen any announcements that they’re discontinuing it. Can 
> anyone else access the Facebook mobile site?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: Smart light bulbs?

[Jeff Berwick]

Phillips Hue are the best and I have several of them.  Recently, over 
Christmas, I switched a lot of my smart lighting to in-wall switches.  I went 
with the Lutron Diva, which is part of the Caseta line.

If you go with in-wall, you will need to install them.  The nice thing about 
the in-wall switch is that you have control over your lighting with automation, 
and the luddite  in your family can still use a rocker switch to turn lights on 
and off. ;)

Jeff


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> We are thinking about getting smart light bulbs for our kitchen.  Does anyone 
> have a recommendation?  Bright is better for me.
> Thanks,
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Re: Shark Clean iOS App

[Jeff Berwick]

Have you had a good experience with the Roborock mobile app?

Thx,
Jeff


> On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I would say the best robots are from Roborock or Ecovacs, I would not suggest 
> a Roomba, they are somewhat behind the times compared to the other two brands 
> I mentioned.
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Happy to discuss.  I’m currently researching the best robot vacuums and have 
>> found that the iRobot Roomba are currently on sale. 
>> 
>> May make the switch.
>> 
>> Anybody have any experience with the Roomba app?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Shameless FanGirl 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> I also have a Shark robot, and can confirm exactly what you describe here. 
>>> App is a hot mess right now. Shall we try networking on this issue? 
>>> 
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 26, 2022, at 5:50 AM, Jeff Berwick  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a Shark robot vacuum which, until the latest version of the iOS 
>>>> app, I have been able to work independently.  I do have some grumbles 
>>>> about the product—I have to set the power level every single time, but 
>>>> that is something I have taken up with their customer support team.
>>>> 
>>>> The latest version of the app is completely inaccessible.  I am able to 
>>>> start the vacuum, but I’m not able to access the menu system or change the 
>>>> power level of the suction.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anybody else use the Shark robot vacuum and can confirm this?
>>>> 
>>>> I’m currently in a battle with their support team, but I’m struggling with 
>>>> even being able to get them to understand the basic principle of 
>>>> accessibility.
>>>> 
>>>> They are headquartered in the States, so I expect they have to be 
>>>> compliant with Section 508, but, as I am a Canadian, I’m not sure I can 
>>>> wield that power. ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Thx,
>>>> Jeff
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Re: Shark Clean iOS App

[Jeff Berwick]

Happy to discuss.  I’m currently researching the best robot vacuums and have 
found that the iRobot Roomba are currently on sale. 

May make the switch.

Anybody have any experience with the Roomba app?

Thx,
Jeff


> On Aug 26, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Shameless FanGirl  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I also have a Shark robot, and can confirm exactly what you describe here. 
> App is a hot mess right now. Shall we try networking on this issue? 
> 
> Angie
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2022, at 5:50 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a Shark robot vacuum which, until the latest version of the iOS app, 
>> I have been able to work independently.  I do have some grumbles about the 
>> product—I have to set the power level every single time, but that is 
>> something I have taken up with their customer support team.
>> 
>> The latest version of the app is completely inaccessible.  I am able to 
>> start the vacuum, but I’m not able to access the menu system or change the 
>> power level of the suction.
>> 
>> Does anybody else use the Shark robot vacuum and can confirm this?
>> 
>> I’m currently in a battle with their support team, but I’m struggling with 
>> even being able to get them to understand the basic principle of 
>> accessibility.
>> 
>> They are headquartered in the States, so I expect they have to be compliant 
>> with Section 508, but, as I am a Canadian, I’m not sure I can wield that 
>> power. ;)
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
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Shark Clean iOS App

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

I have a Shark robot vacuum which, until the latest version of the iOS app, I 
have been able to work independently.  I do have some grumbles about the 
product—I have to set the power level every single time, but that is something 
I have taken up with their customer support team.

The latest version of the app is completely inaccessible.  I am able to start 
the vacuum, but I’m not able to access the menu system or change the power 
level of the suction.

Does anybody else use the Shark robot vacuum and can confirm this?

I’m currently in a battle with their support team, but I’m struggling with even 
being able to get them to understand the basic principle of accessibility.

They are headquartered in the States, so I expect they have to be compliant 
with Section 508, but, as I am a Canadian, I’m not sure I can wield that power. 
;)

Thx,
Jeff

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Re: YouTube audio grabber

[Jeff Berwick]

There is an app called Youtube-dl.  You can install this through Home-brew in 
the Terminal.  It is pretty easy to use, but it is a command line tool, so you 
will need to be comfortable with Terminal.

Jeff


> On Jul 4, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Could you use Audio Hijac for that purpose.
> It might take some time but I guess that could work.
> Or maybe VLC which can grab from the internet.
> /A
> 
>> 4 juli 2022 kl. 17:23 skrev Phil Halton :
>> 
>> Hi Eric, there was a time, back when I actually worked with computers for a 
>> living, that I would’ve been very interested in doing that. Now though, I’m 
>> like the car mechanic who quit the profession, forgot most of what he knew, 
>> and just wants to drive the damn things.  Thanks anyway🙂
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Btw, I also have an alternative that I use. Download using wget and then 
>>> open for streaming/saving in VLC. From there, choose audio and the bitrate 
>>> and choose a location to save. It should open up a dialog that will allow 
>>> you to choose the location and the filename you want to save it as.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 4, 2022, at 6:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Then you should know how to do that on the Mac.
 And also the right commands for wget and ffmpeg.
 /A
 
>> 4 juli 2022 kl. 13:18 skrev Eric Oyen :
> 
> Actually, if you can install wget, you can acquire the video file and 
> then use ffmpeg on it to break out the audio only. I have done this 
> downloading audiobooks from YouTube. Works like a charm.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> I just took out a YouTube premium free trial for purposes of downloading 
>> YouTube video material. Unfortunately, I found that it only makes it 
>> available off-line through the YouTube app and you can’t actually 
>> manipulate the file in anyway. All I’m really looking for is to get the 
>> audio of certain videos. There used to be audio grabbers for YouTube are 
>> there still? Is there a good one I can use and I primarily use iOS, but 
>> I can use the Mac as well. Any help appreciated 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: basic finder question

[Jeff Berwick]

When you are in the Finder and the folder you want, you can copy the file with 
[command] + [c].

Then, move to the folder you want to put the file in and issue the following 
command:

[command] + [option] + [v]

This moves the file from he first location to the second.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Jun 26, 2022, at 8:22 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
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> Actually, I open up terminal and then cd to the folder I want. In there, I 
> issue the command: mv file1 /path/to/folder/ and hit the enter key. It’s easy 
> peasy.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Leland > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I'm a lifelong sighted Mac user currently in the process of becoming a blind 
>> Mac user. I've also decided to learn JAWS (even though I would've never 
>> dream of switching to Windows otherwise) since I can't avoid MS Word in my 
>> work and I've been gobsmacked by how frequently Word for Mac stops working 
>> compared to Scrivener, which is my main workhorse word processor. (also 
>> finding some of the JAWS navigation, especially on the web, more reliable 
>> and intuitive than VoiceOver for MacOS).
>> 
>> Anyway none of this has anything to do with my question for you, which is as 
>> follows: 
>> 
>> is there any way to move items in the finder without just copying, deleting, 
>> then pasting in the new location? I know in Windows you can "cut" a file and 
>> then "paste" it elsewhere, removing this middle step of having to then go 
>> back and delete the file... I have half-heartedly tried reading the apple 
>> documentation about dragging and dropping with VoiceOver but I haven't had 
>> the courage to try. is it more efficient than copy file, paste file, delete 
>> file in the finder?
>> 
>> thanks, and thanks for including me in this group!
>> Andrew Leland
>> alel...@gmail.com 
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Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

[Jeff Berwick]

When programming, coders usually have access to the accessible text for the 
menu items.  At least, when I programmed in DotNet for Windows they did.  I 
expect it is the same or similar on Mac.  

So, you would put in the text that you wish to show, select the different key 
combinations for any shortcuts and then set your accessible text to provide 
clues to the user.

Jeff


> On Apr 4, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
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> My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out 
> something interesting today. Apparently, VO announces menu access shortcuts 
> in a different order than the symbols are presented on the screen. For 
> instance, in Mail, for Forward (on the Message menu) VO says Command-Shift-F, 
> while the graphic shows the symbol for Shift first, then the pinwheel-like 
> symbol for Command, then the F. In the thirteen years I've used VO with 
> MacOS, starting with Leopard and then Snow Leopard, I've never known or 
> noticed this. In fact, I've never bothered to learn the shapes of the graphic 
> symbols for Shift (which I think is an up-pointing arrow), Command (the 
> pinwheel), Option (which I think is a wavy line or lines), or Control (which 
> I don't know at all). Would appreciate some confirmation and claraification 
> on those. But isn't it interesting that VO reads them in a different order, 
> which means it's not really reading anything at all--it's just reading the 
> text from a symbols dictionary for certain things.
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Re: Keyboard action to increase VoiceOver volume

[Jeff Berwick]

[ctrl] + [option] + +.

Press Voiceover keys and the plus key to increase volume.

Jeff
Voiceover 


> On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:02 AM, michael dailey  wrote:
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> Try holding down the FN key and keep pressing the F12.  If that doesn’t work, 
> just keep pressing the F12.
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> If all else failes, find a sighted person to help.
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>> On Dec 14, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Bill Gallik > > wrote:
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>> I have a reason to believe that the volume on my Mac mini has been set to 
>> 0%. Of course, this makes it quite difficult to go into voiceover 
>> configuration to raise the volume. Can anybody tell me the key sequence to 
>> use to increase VoiceOver volume on a Mac system?
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Re: Monterey Loses Voiceover?

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Hi there,

Since Big Sur, on an Apple M1 chip computer, I have had Voiceover crash all the 
time.  I have gone into Voiceover preferences and reset all Voiceover 
preferences and it has solved that issue.

A new issue, in Monterey is that, when your computer goes to sleep and requires 
a password, Voiceover doesn’t always come on and it doesn’t always play the 
clicks to indicate that you are typing in your password.

Try entering your password and hitting enter and see what results you get.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hi, Group.
> I am having a lot of problems with Voiceover ever since I have upgraded to 
> Monterey.
> One of them is that Monterey does not keep voiceover active for long. After 
> few hours of inactivity, Voiceover does not come back and I have to restart. 
> Sometimes voiceover does not start with computer and I have to start it 
> manually.
> I heard that when VO does not come up after remaining inactive for sometimes, 
> there is a windows popping up with some sort of image that needs to be 
> clicked on. Since VO does not identify this Windows, I can not do anything.
> Is it me alone having those issues?
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Re: Anyone else having trouble dictating messages on their watch since WatchOs 8?

[Jeff Berwick]

It is true that it is much less convenient to dictate under Watch OS8.

What I do, once I am done dictating, is one finger double tap, swipe once to 
the right and one finger double tap again.  Not sure what I’m tapping on, but 
that stops dictation and then I can swipe left until I get back to the text 
field so I can review what I have dictated.

Sometimes, when I one finger double tap, the message just sends automatically.  
Not sure why as VoiceOver is pretty quiet at that time.

The nice thing about this annoyance is that you can then add emogees to your 
message, if desired.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hi all,
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> Ever since upgrading to WatchOS 8, I am unable to dictate messages.  I can 
> get dictation to start, but I can rarely get it to stop, and I can’t get VO 
> to read back to me what I have dictated, so I can make sure it’s right before 
> sending the message. Anyone have any idea what might be going on?  I use the 
> watch for messaging a lot, so this is a major inconvenience.
> Cheers,
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Rearranging Sheets in Numbers

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi listers,

Wondering if anybody knows how to rearrange the order of sheets in Numbers 
using Voiceover?

I have a large spreadsheet with several sheets and I need to reorganize them 
as, when I create new sheets, it randomly places them somewhere in the middle 
of the list.

Thx,
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Re: strange folder in my mac

[Jeff Berwick]

The “Sites” folder is a special folder that is used if you are using your Mac 
as a local server development machine.  That is where files would be placed.

You can just ignore it.

Not sure if there is a way to delete it.

Jeff


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> Hi,
> In my Home area of my mac os big sur, I found a strange folder titled 
> 'sites.' It cannot be sent to the trash or deleted. Does anyone know what 
> this is or how to be rid of it? Thanks.
> Patrick 
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Re: mac os big sur: the voice over that stops anouncing every other time issue

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Hi Yuma,

I had/have a similar issue.  I discussed this with the accessibility team a 
month or more ago and submitted all kinds of data from my machine.  They said 
that what I submitted was useful and they were working on a fix.  This was a 
couple of updates ago, but nothing has been fixed yet.

In my case, it isn’t system announcements, rather it is just navigating around 
with Voiceover.  It happens to me, on average, every five - ten minutes when 
I’m really working at my computer.

I don’t know if this is because we are power users and are frequently jumping 
from Safari, to Textedit, to terminal and back again.

This only happens on my M1 machine running Big Sur.

So, I feel your pain but don’t have a solution for you yet—other than the 
turning Voiceover off and on hack.

Jeff


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> Hi all,
> 
> I tried different approaches to getting rid of the issue where voice over 
> mutes every other announcement. For example, if I have 3 UI elements in an 
> app, only the first and third will announce correctly while navigating an 
> interface, or when in some text, only the odd or even line will announce.
> 
> The hot fix for now is to toggle voice over off and back on, but honestly 
> after a full day of doing this, it starts to get on my nerves, in a serious 
> way.
> 
> Anyone have this problem as well? It seems as though the OS's way of dealing 
> with multiple voices is just not up to par if you either a have an english 
> region such as australia or the UK, meaning the system voice default is one 
> voice, but your choice of another english voice conflicts somewhat. or you 
> have a system language other than english but use english as well. In my 
> case, I use Alex but the system default voice is the australian rachel. I 
> changed settings for the system voice to be alex, but the system still takes 
> both instances of alex as different voices, which seems to introduce this 
> issue.
> 
> I'd really like anyone on this list spending time on the beta to make a 
> request on this issue. I've stopped doing bug reports several years ago as I 
> just don't have the time to write these reports.
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Re: Can voiceover be used to setup a new (out of box) Apple TV 4th generation?

[Jeff Berwick]

You can also hold the SIRI button and say:

“Turn on VoiceOver”

Jeff


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> Have you tried clicking the menu button three times?  It’s the button at 
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>> Hi all, is there anyway of turning on Voiceover during the setup process of 
>> a 4th generation Apple TV? This Apple TV comes with Siri remote with the 
>> touchpad on top and the Menu, Siri, and Play buttons on the left side and 
>> the Home and Volume buttons on the right side.
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>> 
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Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA

[Jeff Berwick]

I have one and experience an intermittent issue with Voiceover speech stoping.

I have worked with the apple accessibility team and they have indicated that 
they know what the issue is and it will be fixed in an upcoming update.  

It wasn’t fixed in the most recent update, so hopefully the next one is the 
charm.

Other than that, it works like a charm.

Jeff


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> As I mentioned, I'll now be returning my MBA.  I have to decide whether to 
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Re: Smart locks that work with HomeKit?

[Jeff Berwick]

I have never had an issue with the August app and it walks you through the 
process.

I din’t know about a proximity detector, so maybe my model is too old for the 
new fancy stuff.

All I had to do during the process—if I remember correctly—is lock/unlock and 
open/close the door.  

The apps wizard walked me through the whole process.  Sometimes it failed, but 
then I’d go through it a second time and it would be fine.

It has been several years, so I appologise if I’m forgetting anything.

Jeff



> On Apr 29, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Jeff,
> 
> What did you have to do to get the August lock to work with HomeKit? We had a 
> locksmith come out this afternoon. We can now manually lock and unlock the 
> door with our phone, but the proximity sensor still doesn't work, and every 
> time I try to get it to connect to the Home app, when I click Set up Homekit, 
> I get taken to an Apple shopping page.
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:13 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> My husband spent the entire afternoon trying to get it installed, and 
>> finally gave up.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I read the subject, I was prepared to recommend the August Smart Lock. 
>>>  I have this and have never had any issues with it.
>>> 
>>> I was a bit confused by the installation process, but once I had it 
>>> installed it made sense to me.  It was pretty easy.
>>> 
>>> My August lock is probably three or four years old, so perhaps they have 
>>> changed the hardware/software?
>>> 
>>> I know they have a new smaller version—which I am looking forward to 
>>> getting at some point to replace my older larger model.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know of a smart lock that works with HomeKit on voiceover? My 
>>>> husband and I just tried to install the August lock. It was expensive it 
>>>> was a pain in the***, and it still doesn’t work. So, looking for other 
>>>> alternatives.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Smart locks that work with HomeKit?

[Jeff Berwick]

When I read the subject, I was prepared to recommend the August Smart Lock.  I 
have this and have never had any issues with it.

I was a bit confused by the installation process, but once I had it installed 
it made sense to me.  It was pretty easy.

My August lock is probably three or four years old, so perhaps they have 
changed the hardware/software?

I know they have a new smaller version—which I am looking forward to getting at 
some point to replace my older larger model.

Jeff


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> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know of a smart lock that works with HomeKit on voiceover? My 
> husband and I just tried to install the August lock. It was expensive it was 
> a pain in the***, and it still doesn’t work. So, looking for other 
> alternatives.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: mac os big sur: voice over still bugging out on every second announcement

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

I have recently had a similar issue—I have had to restart Voiceover every 5 - 
10 minutes as it stops announcing whatever I navigate to.

I had a session with their accessibility team and have submitted data from my 
computer which, as they tell me, has been very helpful in identifying the 
issue.  I am apparently not alone with this issue.

They are working on a fix to be released in an upcoming release—although they 
couldn’t give me an estimation.

Perhaps your issue will be resolved by the same code.

You may wish to reach out to accessibility and have them view your issue.  For 
me, we did a screen recording and then sent log files so they knew exactly what 
was going on.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hi all,
> 
> I've gotten rid of all possible trackpad gestures that may interfere with any 
> of the voice over speech attributes (rate, pitch, etc) but I'm still having 
> to restart voice over after a little while on my system, at which point the 
> local language english voice announces randomly before it gives place to alex 
> (the default voice).
> 
> This behaviour is really starting to get on my nerves as I tend to do things 
> quickly and between different apps. 
> 
> Just some background, i'm on a macbook 16 with 32 gb of ram and something 
> like 8 cores, 2 tb of ssd disc space.
> 
> I should not be having this kind of behaviour.
> 
> Is this because my local language is australian and I'm using the alex 
> compact voice for all of my tasks?
> 
> What I don't get is that all of my voice over speech parameters are set to 
> alex, all at same pitch, rate, volume etc. But when i restart voice over, the 
> australian voice always turns up for a few announcements before disappearing. 
> This is very bugged out and I want to squash this ASAP as every time I have 
> to restart it interferes with my focus, and after 10-20 times of this 
> happening in a day of work, I start to think of different ways of destroying 
> the laptop.
> 
> Anyone know if theres another property or setting somewhere which actually 
> has the local english voice conflicting with my voice over settings? For 
> example, if I press right option t, the time is announceed, but with the 
> australian voice. I want it to be alex, everywhere, no situation specific 
> voice change, it seems to cause those conflicting announcement issues.
> 
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions 
> 
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Re: amadeus pro: fastest method for reading current time

[Jeff Berwick]

I don’t know where it is located visually, but if you move the insertion point 
to the play head you can then hit command + g to see the time.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hi all,
> 
> I am currently coding some quick scripts in python to generate video clips 
> from a list of youtube videos, and a transcription of my own audio to layer 
> on top automatically.
> 
> I am looking for the most efficient, as in fastest way of reading the current 
> playhead on the timeline on amadeus pro. I don't want to fool around using vo 
> navigation, but just capture the time stamp, by using keyboard maestro or 
> some other such keyboard command to get the information.
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> Anyone know where the timeline is located in the amadeus pro interface?
> 
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Re: Microsoft Teams On iPhone And Accessibility

[Jeff Berwick]

I use Teams on my iPhone everyday and it is very accessible.

To get into a meeting, make sure that you are on the calendar tab—second from 
the right at the bottom.

Then, find the meeting and the button right after the name of the meeting is 
labelled “Join.”

Once you are in the meeting, you can click to join now and you are in.

Look around the screen and decide whether to turn your video and mic on or off.

Jeff


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> Hi all,
> 
> I know this topic has come up before, but of course, I had no reason to care 
> about using Teams on my iPhone at the time, so I didn’t save much of the 
> info. Today, however, I was trying to get into a meeting on Teams using my 
> iPhone running iOS 14.4.1, and I could not get it to work at all. I tried 
> several times, and on one or two of the attempts I did hear VO say 
> “Connecting”, but it just sat there. Fortunately, I was able to get in via 
> the phone call method, but I’d like to learn more about using the app 
> directly. Is there any documentation about using Teams anywhere that I could 
> get hold of? Is there any tweaking of settings that should be done to make 
> things go better with VO?
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Re: Voiceover Constant Crashing

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It really Varys.

Most recently it has been crashing when I am trying to read through Safari 
pages with Voiceover and, as I am a coder, when I am switching back and forth 
between Textedit and Terminal as I write my code and test it.

It seems like it can happen at any time and in any app when I’m doing anything. 
 It is very non-specific, which is why I’d like to reinstall the Voiceover 
binary, but I’m not sure that it can be separated out from the OS.

I am loathed to do a fresh install as it entails a lot of configuring and 
installing of programs to get things working the way I need.

Jeff


> On Mar 21, 2021, at 7:05 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> I have had scrod crash while entering data everspecially passwords) using , 
> an humanware Brailiant BI display. This will cause VO instability, but when 
> not using braille I haven't had many problems. 
> Can you describe more specificass what you are doing right before the crash? 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> I got a new MacBook Pro M1 a few weeks ago and my Voiceover is constantly 
>> crashing.
>> 
>> I usually have to restart every five - ten minutes.
>> 
>> Has anybody experienced this and, if so, what was the fix?
>> 
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Voiceover Constant Crashing

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi listers,

I got a new MacBook Pro M1 a few weeks ago and my Voiceover is constantly 
crashing.

I usually have to restart every five - ten minutes.

Has anybody experienced this and, if so, what was the fix?

Thx,
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Re: voice over not on at start up

[Jeff Berwick]

Go to system preferences and choose users and groups.

Then, select the login options group and accessibility options.  You will 
probably need to unlock this screen.

There is a checkbox to have Voiceover on at start up.

Jeff


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Re: How to read .php files.

[Jeff Berwick]

I use Textedit for editing my PHP files all the time.  They are just text 
files, so they shouldn’t. Be showing HTML code.

Perhaps you can adjust your preferences in Textedit.

I would focus on the Display HTML files as HTML code instead of formatted text 
checked checkbox and turn off the magic quotes and whatnot to ensure that 
everything saves nicely.  I also turn off spellcheck as it is a pain when 
writing code.

Jeff
 

> On Mar 9, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> The subject pretty much says most of the question. Does anyone know how I can 
> read a .php file on the Mac. More specifically, I need to see the raw code. I 
> tried text edit in both rich text and plain text modes and that did not work 
> out so well. With Windows I can use notepad so hoping there’s a Mac 
> equivalent.
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Re: How to delete the stuff in the trash or bin on the Mac please?

[Jeff Berwick]

I have never done anything that complicated.  I simply hit command shift delete 
and everything is deleted.  I don’t know of a simpler way to do it.
Jeff


> On Feb 25, 2021, at 5:53 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> I actually went in to the trash and selected all the items with Command A and 
> then chose to delete all the items and had to put in my password.  I thought 
> there would be a quicker way than having to go into the trash.  In windows 
> you can press the application key and delete everything at once.  Is there 
> not a similar way on the Mac as there use to be.  That was where the 
> contextual menu came in.  You’d highlight the Bin folder and then VO M and 
> move the down arrow and the empty bin button would be there and you’d press 
> the enter key.
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2021, at 22:47, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> When in Finder, just hit:
>> 
>> Command + shift + backspace/delete - whatever that key is called.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 5:43 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> Please could someone tele me how to delete stuff out of the bin or Trash on 
>>> the Mac please as the VO M contextual menu isn’t working.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: How to delete the stuff in the trash or bin on the Mac please?

[Jeff Berwick]

When in Finder, just hit:

Command + shift + backspace/delete - whatever that key is called.

Jeff


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> Hello.
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> Please could someone tele me how to delete stuff out of the bin or Trash on 
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> Thanks.
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Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard with Touch ID

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Hi All,

I’ve been Google searching, but I’m not getting a narrow list of keyboards to 
review—perhaps what I’m looking for doesn’t exist.

I want a bluetooth keyboard that I can use with multiple devices, but that also 
has a Touch ID or finger print sensor.  I have the Logetec K760 which I love, 
but I would like it to have a Touch ID sensor so I don’t have to go to my 
computer.

Does such an animal exist?  Does anybody have one and have any comments?

Thx,
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Re: Strange new behavior when using Siri to play music from my homepod

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Hi Donna,

I had noticed the media controls showing up on my iPhone, and I have also 
noticed a fast drain on my iPhone battery in recent days.  I didn’t, unlike 
you, connect the two.  

Now that you made me aware, I’m also not happy with this adjustment/bug or 
whatever it is.

Jeff


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> For about the past week, when I use Siri to play music from my Homepod—also 
> playing to some Sonos speakers—the Airplay control dialog displays on my 
> other i-devices—phone, iPad, etc. This never used to happen, and I don’t like 
> it. It used to be that unless I manually airplayed something from my phone or 
> other device, airplay was not initiated. I prefer to just use my voice to 
> control music playing on the Homepod. It also seems to be draining my watch 
> battery. Is there anything I can do to get the Homepod to go back to the old 
> behavior?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Transfering music from iPhone to Mac laptop

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If you go to your Home folder on your Mac, there is a folder called “Music.”  
Inside that folder, is another folder called “music” and inside that is one 
called “Media.”  Inside the media folder is one called “Automatically add to 
Music.”

Anything you put in the “Automatically add to Music” folder will be imported 
into your library the next time you open music.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Dec 12, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I could use dropbox but then how would I move my files into the music app?
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> the “method" I described works only for syncing a music library between 
>> Apple devices.
>> If you want to transfer other content between your Mac and your iOS device, 
>> I recommend using a cloud storage service like iCloud Drive or Dropbox.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 17:57, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> can I use the method you describe to transfer something from my Mac to my 
>> phone? could I copy and paste?
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1.  You might try using the Sync Library feature in the Music app on both 
>>> your iPhone and Mac.  This does not require a paid subscription to the 
>>> Apple Music service.
>>> 
>>> To enable this feature on your iPhone, go to Settings > Music, and look for 
>>> the Sync Library toggle, and make sure it is turned on.
>>> 
>>> On your Mac, go to the Music app, and open Preferences using CMD + comma.  
>>> Once in the Music app’s Preferences, select the General tab from the 
>>> toolbar, then navigate to the Sync Library checkbox, and make sure it is 
>>> checked.
>>> 
>>> Once this has been done on both devices, your library will sync in the 
>>> cloud.  this may take a while, so be patient.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Beginning with macOS Catalina, iTunes is no more, and has been replaced 
>>> with separate Music, TV and Podcast apps.  Another change in Catalina, is 
>>> how your iOS device is connected to your Mac.  This is now done through 
>>> Finder.
>>> a.  Connect your iOS device to your Mac using theLightning to USB charging 
>>> cable.
>>> b.  Open any Finder window (such as your Home folder, using CMD + Shift + 
>>> H).
>>> c.  Navigate to the Sidebar, and locate your iOS device.
>>> d.  Navigate to the folder view area,, and you should find information 
>>> about your iOS device that is very similar to what was displayed in iTunes.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 13:55, Tod Fassl >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been googling and if I am not mistaken, there is no easy way to 
>>> transfer music from my iPone to my Mac laptop, right? It's easy if you pay 
>>> for it by subscribing to Apple Music but there's no easy/free way as far as 
>>> I can tell.
>>> 
>>> I got a new Mac laptop, plugged in my iPhone, and was surprised to find 
>>> that it didn't do anything. The old Mac opened iTunes automatically and 
>>> allowed me to transfer stuff back & forth.
>>> 
>>> So now I seem to be kind of SOL. Years ago I painstakingly ripped all my 
>>> CDs. That took weeks. I bought some songs  from Amazon. There are hundreds 
>>> of songs in all. I want to make some new playlists and I'd prefer to do 
>>> that on the laptop where I have a regular keyboard, etc.
>>> 
>>> Are there any benefits to Apple Music besides allowing me to get my music 
>>> off my phone? I'm not a big streaming music guy. I buy songs and make my 
>>> own playlists.
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Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur

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That did it for me!

Thank you so much—I was about to lose my mind.

Jeff


> On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:43 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
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>   You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. 
> I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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>> I am also experiencing this issue.
>> This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list.
>> I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to 
>> make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful 
>> in modifying this behavior.
>> 
>> This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with 
>> Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help).
>> 
>> At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail.  
>> Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” 
>> prior to reading the sender.
>> 
>> I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering 
>> if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases?
>> 
>> I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Jeff
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Mac Mail on Big Sur

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode 
and my iPhone (it didn’t help).

At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail.  
Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior 
to reading the sender.

I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if 
there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases?

I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything.

Thanks for any help.
Jeff

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Re: IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen

[Jeff Berwick]

I am happy to report that this focus issue has been resolved in iOS 14.1.

Jeff


> On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Jeff,
> 
> Well, I installed iPad OS 14 last week and, last night, finally ran into the 
> VoiceOver focus bug, as you described it.  
> 
> Wow!  What a mess.  It happened when I open the OverDrive app.  Wow!  What a 
> mess!!!  
> 
> So far, I have not found any kind of workaround for this problem.  The focus 
> problem does not rear its ugly head on all of the screens but on, of course, 
> the most crucial ones in the app.  
> 
> I am so glad I did not put iOS14 on my beloved 8 Plus.  Had I done so, I 
> would be going crazy and, no doubt, doing my best to downgrade back to 13.7.
> 
> Mark 
> 
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> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 3:52 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I updated to IOS 14 earlier today and I’m finding that, when trying to swipe 
> right around the screen, the Voiceover curser jumps around and goes back to 
> the top of the screen.
> 
> Is anybody else experiencing this and, if so, do you have a work-around?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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App Connect/Itunes Connect

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Hi all,

Looking for any other iOS developers out there.

I have just gone into iTunes Connect to upload a new version of my app and it 
is completely inaccessible using Voiceover.  My sighted son can get me to my 
app page, but that is as far as we go.

Hoping there are other developers who may have discovered a work around.

I have sent Apple an email, but not sure when they’ll get back to me.

Thx,
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Re: Apple Watch serious five and water.p

[Jeff Berwick]

I have had this issue with my series 3 a couple of times and it just takes some 
time for the internal speaker to dry out and return to normal sound.

Jeff


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> Hi! I actually cleaned my Apple Watch and now the sound is a bit muffled. I 
> know I should lock it when I am  under water but can I do something to make 
> it sound as it should again? Thanks in advance
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Re: IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen

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Thank you for confirming.  I have submitted a report to accessibil...@apple.com 
<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>

Thx,
Jeff


> On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Jeff,
> 
> Well, I installed iPad OS 14 last week and, last night, finally ran into the 
> VoiceOver focus bug, as you described it.  
> 
> Wow!  What a mess.  It happened when I open the OverDrive app.  Wow!  What a 
> mess!!!  
> 
> So far, I have not found any kind of workaround for this problem.  The focus 
> problem does not rear its ugly head on all of the screens but on, of course, 
> the most crucial ones in the app.  
> 
> I am so glad I did not put iOS14 on my beloved 8 Plus.  Had I done so, I 
> would be going crazy and, no doubt, doing my best to downgrade back to 13.7.
> 
> Mark 
> 
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> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 3:52 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I updated to IOS 14 earlier today and I’m finding that, when trying to swipe 
> right around the screen, the Voiceover curser jumps around and goes back to 
> the top of the screen.
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> Is anybody else experiencing this and, if so, do you have a work-around?
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Screen Recording with Voiceover

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Hi all,

I used to be able to use screen recording on my iPad to make demonstration 
videos of my mobile app.   This was great as I could use Voiceover and navigate 
the app, but Voiceover did not get captured on the video.  Something has 
changed (I’m using iOS 13 on this iPad) and now Voiceover is being captured 
within the recording.

Does anybody know a way around this—other than getting my kids to work the app 
while I narrate it.

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IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen

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Hi all,

I updated to IOS 14 earlier today and I’m finding that, when trying to swipe 
right around the screen, the Voiceover curser jumps around and goes back to the 
top of the screen.

Is anybody else experiencing this and, if so, do you have a work-around?

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Re: Microsoft Teams

[Jeff Berwick]

I have been using Microsoft Teams with my iPhone for several months now and 
find it to be quite accessible.  I don’t like the chat feature as there are a 
lot of extra items I don’t need, but the calling feature is quite straight 
forward.

The Windows desktop version is a tougher beast to tame, so I avoid it wherever 
possible.

Jeff


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> Hi all
> 
> Has anyone got any advice for using Microsoft Teams with VO? I only know one 
> other VO user who has experience of this and they couldn’t get it to work at 
> all.
> 
> I just downloaded the app and it’s directing me to use Skype instead. 
> 
> I wouldn’t bother with it, but, ironically, it’s for a meeting of the Digital 
> Participation Group at the Scottish Parliament.
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Re: Apple e Watch Phone Volume

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The gesture for changing volume is to double tap with two fingers and then 
slide up or down on the watch face.  Voiceover will announce the volume as you 
slide.

I don’t know if this will change the SIRI volume as I have also noticed that 
the watch volume and SIRI volume can often be out of sync.

Sometimes this gesture does not work for me, but a restart of the watch usually 
fixes that.  Not sure what happens to block this gesture from working.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:
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> Sorry. I have not seen the below.
> 
> I have a Cellular Apple Watch Series 5 with Watch OS 6.2.5. I used the 
> Digital Crown to call Siri and said “Hey Siri, FaceTime “Contact’s Name””. 
> The Volume was so low I could hear the Caller even with my ear near the Apple 
> Watch
> . Does anyone know how to increase the Apple Watch Volume for phone Calls? 
> Thank you.
> 
> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
> Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words than words without 
> a heart.”
> 
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>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Once you find the scroll bar you can flick up or down with one finger to 
>> adjust the percentage value, this should work on the vertical scroll bars or 
>> the horizontal scroll bars. See if that helps?
>> 
>>> On 12/06/2020, at 09:29, Michael Marshall >> > wrote:
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>>> hey all,
>>> Running into a very interesting situation and I don't quite know how to 
>>> solve it.
>>> If I'm looking at a page of content in an app such as youtube, after awhile 
>>> I come to a vertical scroll bar.
>>> I know I need to somehow activate this to see more content, I have tried 
>>> interacting with it when it says something like, scrollbar 100% and moving 
>>> the slider but I still cannot see any more content I know it's there.
>>> Am I missing something?
>>> It is really annoying me.
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Re: Emails not sinking between devices

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Occasionally, I find that messages don’t download to my Mac.  I close Mac Mail 
and then open it again and the messages show up.

Jeff


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> Not sure why my emails between my phone and my Mac are not sinking at the 
> moment. It’s been working fine up until this morning and I’ve not changed any 
> settings anywhere. It could be the internet over here as a lot of schools 
> have gone back after easter and all the kids are doing online learning with 
> Zoom classrooms and the net might just be over loaded. I received a new email 
> on my phone about half an hour ago and it hasn’t yet appeared on my Mac. 
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

[Jeff Berwick]

Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very low.  I’ll 
have to figure out how to control that volume setting, unless anybody else 
knows off the top of their head.
Jeff


> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
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> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
> By Michael Potuck 
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
> 
> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
> 
> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
> your password if required). 
> 
> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
> here at 9to5Mac.
> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
> 
> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
> thoughts in the comments below?
> Thanks, Dylan!
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Jeff Berwick]

I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar to 
100%.  It is the next item past the message list.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
> Best regards,
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Re: Auto fill options in safari

[Jeff Berwick]

Command + Shift + a

Jeff


> On Nov 24, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> When logging into various websites, what are the keystrokes that will let me 
> auto fill these fields with data already present in my keychain. I.e., 
> username and password. I thought it was something to do with the letter A in 
> conjunction with various command keys like command or option or control or 
> shift. But can’t remember.
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Re: Download PDF in Safari instead of Opening

[Jeff Berwick]

Funny, that didn’t work either. I wonder if the link that I am trying to 
download the pdf through is not an actual pdf and rather a script to generate 
one—although I would have thought the result would be the same.

Jeff


> On Nov 16, 2019, at 10:51 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> If you are focused on a link, press option-return to download the linked 
> item. You can then open it in preview from your downloads folder. I realize 
> that isn’t exactly what you are looking for, but it may work in the meantime. 
> 
> Later... 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 16, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Jeff Berwick > <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Trying to get my new Mac back to how my old Mac works, but can’t crack this 
>> nut.
>> 
>> I’ve been all over the internet, but the suggestions are not working for me.
>> 
>> I want PDF documents to download automatically instead of opening inside 
>> Safari.
>> 
>> I’ve unchecked the open safe files after downloading checkbox in general 
>> preferences and even run the following Terminal command:
>> 
>> defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitOmitPDFSupport -bool YES
>> 
>> I’ve restarted to see if that might help, but nothing.
>> 
>> Any other suggestions?
>> 
>> Thx
>> Jeff
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Download PDF in Safari instead of Opening

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

Trying to get my new Mac back to how my old Mac works, but can’t crack this nut.

I’ve been all over the internet, but the suggestions are not working for me.

I want PDF documents to download automatically instead of opening inside Safari.

I’ve unchecked the open safe files after downloading checkbox in general 
preferences and even run the following Terminal command:

defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitOmitPDFSupport -bool YES

I’ve restarted to see if that might help, but nothing.

Any other suggestions?

Thx
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Re: Bootable Catalina Installer

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Tim,

I knew about that method, but the internet seemed to exclusively recommend a 
bootable key.

At any rate, I have followed your instructions and it worked great.

Thanks.

Jeff


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> Instead of using the bootable installer, do this:
> 
> • start your Mac in Recovery Mode.
> • Select Disk Utility from the MacOS Utilities table then press Continue.
> • Select Macintosh HD from the Selected Disks table.
> • Press Erase in the Toolbar.
> • Make sure the name is Macintosh HD and that the format is APFS then press 
> the Erase button.
> • After it's done, press the Done button and cmd-q to Quit Disk Utility.
> • Select Re-Install MacOS from the MacOS Utilities table then press Continue.
> • Follow the prompts.  It should be Continue, Agree, Agree.
> • Select the Macintosh HD as the installation drive then press Install.
> 
> Let it do it's thing.  Should take about 1/2 an hour to 40 minutes and it's 
> all done.
> 
> Later...
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> On Nov 14, 2019, at 07:23, Jeff Berwick  <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I have been having issues with Voiceover on my new MacBook Pro, so the advice 
> is to do a clean install.  Not a big deal as it is already pretty clean.
> 
> At any rate, I have created a bootable Catalina installer as per the 
> instructions on the internet, but it does not show up under System 
> Preferences > Start Up Disks.
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> Any thoughts on what I can do to get it to show up?
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Bootable Catalina Installer

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

I have been having issues with Voiceover on my new MacBook Pro, so the advice 
is to do a clean install.  Not a big deal as it is already pretty clean.

At any rate, I have created a bootable Catalina installer as per the 
instructions on the internet, but it does not show up under System Preferences 
> Start Up Disks.

Any thoughts on what I can do to get it to show up?

Tia,
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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

I have the iPhone 8 and it has a physical home button.

Jeff


> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
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> physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 8 
> does or not.
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Re: Voiceover on startup

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If you have an older Mac, just type in the username and hit return.  Then, type 
in the password and hit return.  The Mac should load up at that point.

On my machine, I get a single beep before the username, a double beep after 
entering the username and three beeps upon successful entering of the password.

Jeff


> On Oct 9, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> Well that kind of worked but didn’t work. I got voiceover to start when I 
> restarted my wife’s Mac, and all it said was Voiceover on, user name. It 
> didn’t give me anywhere to enter the password to unlock the Mac, I even tried 
> to tab around to find the password field and all it kept saying was voiceover 
> on user name.  I tried turning voiceover off and entering her password but 
> that isn’t work either. So now I’ll have to wait until she gets home as I 
> can’t unlock it now.  I thought if I enabled voiceover to start on startup 
> I’d be able  to unlock the Mac with voiceover on.
> Oh, Simon, my wife’s Mac hasn’t got the Touch Bar.   
> 
>> On 10/10/2019, at 09:11, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
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>> Hi Petrus,
>>  
>> So on the touch bar machines,
>>  
>> Press the top right hand corner key three times quickly to bring up the 
>> accessibility list,
>>  
>> Tab down to voiceover and hit space bar on it, then hit the letter v to 
>> start vo as it would normally be.
>>  
>> Then to start it from the command prompt go into system preferences,
>> Users and groups,
>> Go across to the padlock and unlock it,
>> Then back to the users / groups list,
>> Highlight the very bottom user / feature which should be Log in and
>>  
>> Then there should be an option to start voiceover at the log in screen.
>>  
>> Check that and then exit should be all you need to do.
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2019 8:42 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Voiceover on startup
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> This is going to sound like a silly and basic question. How does one turn on 
>> Voiceover to run on the startup of the Mac? I have it set up on my Mac of 
>> corse and a friend helped me set it up so I never found out what she did. 
>> I’d like to get voiceover to start up automatically on my wife’s Mac when I 
>> restart it. But not sure where I’m supposed to look to do this? 
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Petrus 
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Re: watch OS 6?

[Jeff Berwick]

It is controlled by your language and region settings in the general section of 
the watch app on your iPhone.

Hth,
Jeff


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> I thought I heard on a podcast you can now change VoiceOver voices on
> the apple watch. Well, I updated my watch series 3 to 6.01 and
> excitedly dug into the settings. I can't find anything about voices!
> Does anyone know how to change the voice on the watch?
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Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Jeff Berwick]

You are correct.  I had my language set to Canadian English which gave me the 
British voice.  So, I’ve had to change to American English and that has given 
me female SIRI or some American female voice.

Thanks for that!

Jeff


> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:03 AM, João de Sousa e Silva  wrote:
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> Think it is up to the “language region”, under General, in the Watch  App, in 
> iOS. I may have to wait for the download of the voice, that happens just when 
> the Watch is charging. Then, you may need to set it up, change it, and set It 
> up again. I managed to do it, but I am really not sure about the whole 
> process. But, definitely  possible. Good Luck!
> 
> 
> Às 16:57 de 01/10/2019, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries escreveu:
>> I’ve never been able to get my watch to change to a different British voice. 
>> We are lumbered with one male voice no matter whether you use Siri female 
>> voice on your iPhone. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:50, Jeff Berwick  
>>> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 
>>> 
>>> I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want 
>>> and I can’t find a way to change that.
>>> 
>>> Tia,
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Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 

I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and I 
can’t find a way to change that.

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Re: Applewatch a question.

[Jeff Berwick]

I have the 3 with cellular and am very happy with it.  I don’t really notice a 
delay, but I’ve never played with a 4 or 5.

Jeff


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I decided not to by any of the Earpods or Powerbeats from Apple.
> However as i would like to buy me an apple watch and since its a bit 
> expensive for my wallet i am wondering if the Series 3 is something i would 
> regret to buy?
> I have the series 1 which i haven’t used for a very very long time and i 
> don’t think i ever will either.
> BUt is the series 3 that Apple still sell something i should avoid?
> I don’t think i need the extra things that comes with the 5 and i guess the 4.
> But i am worried if its not going to be snappy enough?
> I  will use it as i walk and for exersizing.
> Advice please.
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Re: Mac Updates

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Okay, I figured it out.  If you go into System Preferences and choose software 
update there is a more info button.

Activating the button will show you a list of the proposed updates and they 
have a checkbox so you can select which one you want to install.

Jeff


> On Sep 26, 2019, at 9:22 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   I did not experience any of this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/26/2019 5:50 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Well I must admit, I’m now annoyed with this update. I just did it and it 
>> has totally changed all my settings and my Voice over voice has gone back to 
>> the default voice that I had when I first got the Mac. Also the system 
>> voice, (well I think it is that one, has increased to about 100%.   I really 
>> didn’t want to spend the afternoon changing my voice over voice.
>>> On 27/09/2019, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick >> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have just been prompted to update my Mac with a supplemental Mojave 
>>> update.  I usually install these right away, but there is also a Safari 
>>> update (13) which I do not want to install as they have deprecated WebSQL 
>>> and I need it for testing and building apps—for the moment anyway.
>>> 
>>> So, does anybody know if I can safely install the MacOS update while not 
>>> updating Safari?  If so, what is the process?
>>> 
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Mac Updates

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Hi all,

I have just been prompted to update my Mac with a supplemental Mojave update.  
I usually install these right away, but there is also a Safari update (13) 
which I do not want to install as they have deprecated WebSQL and I need it for 
testing and building apps—for the moment anyway.

So, does anybody know if I can safely install the MacOS update while not 
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Re: Delayed warning

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Okay, I may have found it.

Go into System Preferences and choose Accessibility.

Select the “Speech” option and then click the “Options” button after the 
“Enable Notifications” checkbox which is probably checked.

Once in there, you can set the delay.  Mine was set to 20 seconds and the 
lowest setting seems to be three.

Hth,
Jeff


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> I hope someone can tell me how to fix this problem.
> For example, When I empty the trash, or the mail trash, about 1 minute later, 
> I get the message, “Are you sure you want to empty the trash?”
> Well, If I wasn’t sure, its to late to ask me  1 minute after I already 
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Re: Delayed warning

[Jeff Berwick]

I recently got a new Macbook Pro and am in the process of setting it up. 

I also experience this delay.  I think it has something to do with 
notifications, but I haven’t looked into it yet.

Did you recently get a new computer or do an update?

Jeff


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> I have had this problem for a while, I can’t remember exactly when it started.
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> 
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> Sounds very strange to me.
>> Have you restarted voiceover only just to see if its voiceOver lagging or 
>> the mac.
>> /A
>> 
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>>> For example, When I empty the trash, or the mail trash, about 1 minute 
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>>> Well, If I wasn’t sure, its to late to ask me  1 minute after I already 
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Re: How does one copy a link from Safari these days?

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I usually hit command + l and then select the link.

Hth,
Jeff


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> It used to be that you could just go to the toolbar, select the link, and 
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Re: Apple Watch Volume Gesture

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No, I didn’t try restarting the watch, but I did try restarting Voiceover.  I 
never think about turning this thing off.

Well, I will have to add that into my thinking as it worked.

Thank you for the suggestion!

Jeff



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> I suppose you have tried turning your watch on and off? Sometimes I have 
> trouble with this gesture.  Can you get to settings and put your volume back 
> there? Just some thoughts! 
> 
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> On Mar 29, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I have, for the second time, done something to my Apple Watch series 3 which 
> prevents me from using the two-finger double tap and slide to adjust volume.
> 
> Can anybody offer a suggestion, other than the nuclear one of resetting (used 
> last time), to get this gesture working again?
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> I wish I could say exactly what I have done to lose this gesture, but I am 
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Apple Watch Volume Gesture

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

I have, for the second time, done something to my Apple Watch series 3 which 
prevents me from using the two-finger double tap and slide to adjust volume.

Can anybody offer a suggestion, other than the nuclear one of resetting (used 
last time), to get this gesture working again?

I wish I could say exactly what I have done to lose this gesture, but I am 
unsure.

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Re: Amadeus Pro help

[Jeff Berwick]

I used the following audio book to learn Amadeus Pro; well worth the price in 
my opinion:

https://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 


Jeff


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> I’m trying to learn Logic Pro but it is going very slowly. In the meantime, 
> I’m trying to learn Amadeus Pro. I’ve found a few older Youtube clips but am 
> looking for something newer with Mojave. Any Ideas?
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Re: selecting text on a Mac

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If you hit enter on the file name you will go into edit mode for that item.  
You can then use the typical editing commands to select text.

Be careful not to change the text while selecting it or it will change the 
filename.

When you have selected all your text and copied it to the clipboard, hit escape 
to close the edit field and then you can move on to the next item in the list.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:56 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I have a list of mp3 files in a folder. I want to copy the titles and paste 
> them into an email. how do I do this? I have some instructions that say 
> shift-option-right arrow selects by word but I don't hear anything when I do 
> that. 
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Re: connecting Phillips Hue Bridge to apple Home?

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Hi there,

I didn’t initially have any issues with connecting Hue to Home, but I did have 
occasion to speak to Phillips support and they were good.  I would give them a 
call.

Jeff


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> We are trying to set up a Phillips Hue bridge.  The bridge is set up and all 
> lights work fine, but neither my husband  nor I can get it to connect to 
> Home.  We've manually entered the code, rebooted the bridge, tried initiating 
> the pairing from within the Hue app, from within home, and from within 
> bluetooth settings, but no dice.  Does anyone know of a step I might be 
> missing?  Did anyone else have trouble getting the Phillips Hue Bridge to 
> work with home?TIA,
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Re: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

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I use youtube-dl.  It is run in Terminal.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hey all, 
> Usually when I need some audio from Youtube, I have no problem using Loopback 
> to record from Safari into Garage Band. Now, though, I'm working on a radio 
> demo and I need to download songs, and I figure it will take forever to 
> record each individual song only for me to end up using a 3-second clip. 
> So, can anyone recommend a good way to download Youtube videos? I used to use 
> anything2mp3.com but that doesn't work for me anymore. 
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> IF it supports batch conversion and SoundCloud URL's, that's a huge plus.
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Re: Operating a HomePod with more than one device

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The description page for HomePod indicates that friends connected to your home 
wifi can play music through your HomePod, so I suspect you’ll be okay to stream 
to the HomePod, but you may wish to use your main iPhone for the setup to 
ensure access to your calendar, messages and mail.

https://www.apple.com/ca/homepod/ 

Hth,
Jeff


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> Hi all,
> I was just listening to David would bridges podcast where he set up his 
> HomePod. And of course he was in the home app. I have an iPhone 7 Plus which 
> is no longer acting as a phone, since it doesn’t have a Sim card in it, 
> although it will do Wi-Fi calling as long as it’s on the Wi-Fi network where 
> my real iPhone is. I got the impression as David did his set up that you 
> might only be able to control the HomePod from a given device. So I’m just 
> wondering if I have to be careful which device I set my homePod up with. That 
> is, if I were to use my iPhone xr to set up the phone, can I then use my 
> iPhone 7 Plus to do airplay, say of an audiobook from audible or whatever. Or 
> can I only airplane from the device on which the set up was initially done? I 
> hope that makes sense.
> Mary
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Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Jeff Berwick]

No, not at all.

I thought it might be hard to install, when I looked in the box, but it was 
actually really simple.  I had the help of my 14 year old and we installed it 
ourselves.  Basically, you take the thumb knob  off the inside of the door and 
then attached the August lock.  The app walks you through the setup process.

There is a bridge that you plug into a nearby outlet and there is another small 
device that you just stick near the latch of the door—this helps to identify 
whether the door is open or closed.

I had some connection issues at first and their support staff were good over 
the telephone.

Jeff


> On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is this device hard to set up?
> Thanks.
> /A
> 
>> 26 nov. 2018 kl. 14:40 skrev Jeff Berwick > <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:
>> 
>> I do not believe it has NFC, but it does work with both Google Home and Home 
>> Kit and can unlock your door on approach.  You can also allow other people 
>> access to the lock if need be and I purchased a keypad to go with it which 
>> can be placed outside.  In this scenario, you can give people a four digit 
>> code for them to enter your house.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Anders Holmberg >> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeff!
>>> The smartlock you’re using, does it has nfc or is it  only remote 
>>> controlled?
>>> I would like to have something that would unlock when you put your device 
>>> (iphone or google ) against it.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 25 nov. 2018 kl. 17:57 skrev Jeff Berwick >>> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google 
>>>> Home.  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>>>> 
>>>> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>>>> 
>>>> temperature,
>>>> humidity,
>>>> motion,
>>>> sound and,
>>>> light.
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you 
>>>> can monitor through the iHome Control app.
>>>> 
>>>> More information at:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx>
>>>> 
>>>> I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find 
>>>> all of them accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are 
>>>>> they all controllable by Siri?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick >>>>> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I 
>>>>>> also have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off 
>>>>>> and I have an August Smart Lock.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tia,
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  
>>>>>>> Wondering what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit 
>>>>>>> that you

Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Jeff Berwick]

I do not believe it has NFC, but it does work with both Google Home and Home 
Kit and can unlock your door on approach.  You can also allow other people 
access to the lock if need be and I purchased a keypad to go with it which can 
be placed outside.  In this scenario, you can give people a four digit code for 
them to enter your house.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Nov 26, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff!
> The smartlock you’re using, does it has nfc or is it  only remote controlled?
> I would like to have something that would unlock when you put your device 
> (iphone or google ) against it.
> /A
> 
>> 25 nov. 2018 kl. 17:57 skrev Jeff Berwick > <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google 
>> Home.  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>> 
>> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>> 
>> temperature,
>> humidity,
>> motion,
>> sound and,
>> light.
>> 
>> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you 
>> can monitor through the iHome Control app.
>> 
>> More information at:
>> 
>> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>>  
>> <https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx>
>> 
>> I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all 
>> of them accessible.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> 
>>> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they 
>>> all controllable by Siri?
>>> 
>>> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick >>> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also 
>>>> have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I 
>>>> have an August Smart Lock.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
>>>> 
>>>> Tia,
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  
>>>>> Wondering what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit 
>>>>> that you particularly like?
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Jeff Berwick]

Oh, sorry…I forgot my thermostat.  I have the Honeywell Lyric T5 which works 
with both Homekit and Google Home as well.

Jeff


> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:59 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of 
> these interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to 
> have a thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the 
> Ecobee3.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick > <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google 
>> Home.  I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.
>> 
>> The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:
>> 
>> temperature,
>> humidity,
>> motion,
>> sound and,
>> light.
>> 
>> Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you 
>> can monitor through the iHome Control app.
>> 
>> More information at:
>> 
>> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
>>  
>> <https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx>
>> 
>> I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all 
>> of them accessible.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> 
>>> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they 
>>> all controllable by Siri?
>>> 
>>> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick >>> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also 
>>>> have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I 
>>>> have an August Smart Lock.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
>>>> 
>>>> Tia,
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
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>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  
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>>>>> Donna
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Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Donna,

All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home.  
I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.

The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:

temperature,
humidity,
motion,
sound and,
light.

Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
monitor through the iHome Control app.

More information at:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx
 
<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx>

I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all of 
them accessible.

Jeff


> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they 
> all controllable by Siri?
> 
> Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also 
>> have several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I 
>> have an August Smart Lock.
>> 
>> I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.
>> 
>> Tia,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  
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>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Donna,

I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also have 
several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I have an 
August Smart Lock.

I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.

Tia,
Jeff


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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Command for Control Center

[Jeff Berwick]

Yes with no result.
Thx,
Jeff


> On Nov 25, 2018, at 4:03 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Have you tried adding the shift key to these commands?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
> Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2018 7:52 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Command for Control Center
> 
> [fn]+[vo]+[down arrow] doesn’t do anything, but [fn]+[vo]+[up arrow] gets me 
> to notification centre.  Maybe something is weird with my keyboard.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>  Try Fn-VO-Down.
>> 
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>>> Hi listers,
>>> Is there a way to get to the Control Centre in IOS 12 on an iPhone using a 
>>> bluetooth keyboard?
>>> I found some instructions on the internet indicating to hit 
>>> [control]+[option]+M to get to the status bar and then hit [option]+[down 
>>> arrow] to get to Control Centre, but the [option]+[down arrow] portion of 
>>> these instructions doesn’t do anything for me.
>>> Tia,
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Command for Control Center

[Jeff Berwick]

VO does not report anything when I try the key combination.  I’ve had issues 
with this keyboard for other commands, so I’ll chalk it up to another thing I 
can’t do with it.

Thx,
Jeff


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>   That happened to me with a new keyboard as well but it sorted itself out. 
> Put it in VO help with VO-k and try it again, see if VO reports the correct 
> command. Press escape to get out of help mode.
> 
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>> [fn]+[vo]+[down arrow] doesn’t do anything, but [fn]+[vo]+[up arrow] gets me 
>> to notification centre.  Maybe something is weird with my keyboard.
>>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>>   Try Fn-VO-Down.
>>> 
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>>>> Hi listers,
>>>> Is there a way to get to the Control Centre in IOS 12 on an iPhone using a 
>>>> bluetooth keyboard?
>>>> I found some instructions on the internet indicating to hit 
>>>> [control]+[option]+M to get to the status bar and then hit [option]+[down 
>>>> arrow] to get to Control Centre, but the [option]+[down arrow] portion of 
>>>> these instructions doesn’t do anything for me.
>>>> Tia,
>>>> Jeff
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Command for Control Center

[Jeff Berwick]

[fn]+[vo]+[down arrow] doesn’t do anything, but [fn]+[vo]+[up arrow] gets me to 
notification centre.  Maybe something is weird with my keyboard.


> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   Try Fn-VO-Down.
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> On 11/24/2018 7:11 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> Hi listers,
>> Is there a way to get to the Control Centre in IOS 12 on an iPhone using a 
>> bluetooth keyboard?
>> I found some instructions on the internet indicating to hit 
>> [control]+[option]+M to get to the status bar and then hit [option]+[down 
>> arrow] to get to Control Centre, but the [option]+[down arrow] portion of 
>> these instructions doesn’t do anything for me.
>> Tia,
>> Jeff
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Bluetooth Keyboard Command for Control Center

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi listers,

Is there a way to get to the Control Centre in IOS 12 on an iPhone using a 
bluetooth keyboard?

I found some instructions on the internet indicating to hit 
[control]+[option]+M to get to the status bar and then hit [option]+[down 
arrow] to get to Control Centre, but the [option]+[down arrow] portion of these 
instructions doesn’t do anything for me.

Tia,
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Apple Watch Exercise Ring

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

I have an Apple Watch and have been quite happy with it.  In the summer, it 
stopped talking to me, so I had to reset it.  The reset went fine, except now 
when I exercise for over 30 minutes, and use the Workout app, I don’t get 
credit for all my time.

For example, I might turn on the Workout app and walk for 30 minutes, but I 
might only get 41% or 71% of my exercise ring.  I’m not getting credit for my 
full workout.

Does anybody know what I can fix to get my full credit?  I know I did it, but 
it would be nice if this expense overlord knew it too. ;)

Thx,
Jeff


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Re: Verifying Credit Card Info

[Jeff Berwick]

Maybe try a tap and hold on the element.
Jeff


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>   No picker, no on screen keyboard. When I double tap to put that field in 
> edit mode, nothing happens. Swiping around does not get me anything tro work 
> with. Strange.
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>> Hi,
>> Sometimes those are pickers.  Try swiping up/down to see if they change.
>> Later...
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>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>> edit the expiration date. I can edit the other fields. Suggestions?
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Re: How do I clear Terminal?

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

You can type “clear” at the command prompt.

Hth,
Jeff


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> Dear List,
> Evertime I open Terminal, everything I ever typed is there.
> I can’t seem to delete it.
> How do I clear the screen?
> I tried from the edit menu with no luck.
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Re: Formulas in Numbers for Mac - follow up question

[Jeff Berwick]

Use the context menu to insert or delete rows and columns:

[control] + [option] + [shift] + M

Hth,
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> Thanks. I knew it would be something that should have been blindingly 
> obvious, if you will pardon the expression.
> 
> Anyway, I now have a new problem. I have constructed a spreadsheet, but I 
> have missed something out in the middle of the blasted thing. I feel sure 
> there must be a way to insert a row in the middle of what I have done, but 
> can’t find out how to do it in the help section.  
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> Please someone tell me I don’t-have to start all over again:)
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Re: Formulas in Numbers for Mac

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The formula should be:

=sum(A1:A4)

You don’t have the equal sign and are missing the brackets surrounding the 
expression.

Jeff


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> I am a total novice in relation to spreadsheets as a whole, but I am trying 
> to teach myself how to use Numbers.
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> I have worked out how to add all the values in a column, but I need to work 
> out how to add selected rows in one column. I realise I need to put a formula 
> in the cell in which I wish the result to appear, but I can’t seem to get it 
> to work. I’m clearly doing something stupid.
> 
> If, for example, I want to add the numbers in rows A1 to A4 and have the 
> result appear in B5, exactly how do I do that? I had a stab at SUM A1:A4, but 
> nothing happened when I typed that into B5. Clearly I am missing out a step, 
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Re: Adding extra protection to Iphone below 8 while sleeping

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I believe that, if you shut your phone off, and then turn it back on, it 
requires your password.  So, just turn it off before bed and back on and you’ll 
be fine.

Jeff


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> Wow Very great
> Thanks so much for this great idea
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
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>> You can disable touch ID authentication by either using an unrecognized 
>> finger three times, or pressing your power button five times quickly. The 
>> latter will bring up a screen to call the emergency services, but you don't 
>> have to make that call, as it won't happen automatically. Either way, Touch 
>> ID will fail until you manually type your passcode, after which it will work 
>> again until the next time you disable it.
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>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2018, at 15:51, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
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>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> I’m using my IPhone 6, and of cores am using the finger print, now,
>>> I need something more advanced after the finger print while sleeping. 
>>> because may be someone can take my finger and use it while i’m sleeping.
>>> am not joking, but i go for some trips alone and i need to protect my 
>>> mobile data while sleeping.
>>> is there away to add a step after the touch  ID that can protect my mobile 
>>> more?
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Re: keystroke for jumping to the top of a list in mail

[Jeff Berwick]

I use classic view in mail and list view in finder and it works.  You may have 
to interact with the list.
Jeff


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> Just tried that and it didn’t work for me.
> 
>> On 31 May 2018, at 14:42, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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>> Option up or down.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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>>> Hi all
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>>> Quick question. On the Mac, is there a keystroke that can jump you to the 
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>>> Thanks
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Re: keystroke for jumping to the top of a list in mail

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Option up or down.

Jeff


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Logetech K480

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Listers,

I just purchased a new bluetooth keyboard and picked up the Logitech k480.

I have managed to pair it to my Mac, but I have two issues:

1.  I don’t like the placement of the FN key and would like to switch it with 
the control key.  I have gone into keyboard preferences and it seems I can 
change the FN to be control, but I can’t change control to be fn.  Any tips on 
getting around this?
2.  The FN key doesn’t actually seem to work.  Well, it works sometimes.  It 
doesn’t let me use it in concert with control option shift and an arrow key to 
performm the top or ends keystrokes.  Any thoughts on this?

TIA,
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Re: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

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No.  It is an add-on to your current plan. In Canada I think it is an extra $5 
or $10,/month, So I expect it is approximately that in the states.

Jeff


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> My husband is looking at getting an Apple Watch.  I'm assuming the answer to 
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Re: Current Location in Amadeus Pro

[Jeff Berwick]

When I use cmd + g, it is populated with zeros—even if I route the insertion 
point to the play head.

Jeff


> On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Command+g will give you that information. It will also allow you to enter a 
> new time value to jump to.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Can anybody tell me how, using Voiceover, I can find out where the play head 
>> and insertion point are located (in time) in the current track?
>> 
>> For example, I’d like to stop the play head and be able to hit a keystroke 
>> (or activate a menu option) and know that I am at 1’23’’456.
>> 
>> Tia,
>> Jeff
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Current Location in Amadeus Pro

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi guys,

Can anybody tell me how, using Voiceover, I can find out where the play head 
and insertion point are located (in time) in the current track?

For example, I’d like to stop the play head and be able to hit a keystroke (or 
activate a menu option) and know that I am at 1’23’’456.

Tia,
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Re: You Tube downloader?

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

I struggled with this for a long time when I first tried youtube-dl too.

Put quotations around the url and make sure that you are using a double dash — 
prior to the youtube-dl commands—hopefully the following line translates 
correctly in email:

youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IZAVUin01U”

Jeff


> On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can someone tell me what I’m doing wrong?
> I can’t get this to work.
> 
> youtube-dl —extract-audio —audio-format mp3 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IZAVUin01U 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Chris Moore > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I just ran youtube-dl from the terminal to extract mp3.
>> You don’t need homebrew to install it.  The terminal command looks something 
>> like:
>> youtube-dl —extract-audio —audio-format mp3 url
>> 
>> You can get the url by  going into youtube in safari,
>> locating the desired song,
>> use the copy link in the shortcut menu
>> and paste it into the terminal command with cmd+v
>> 
>> HTH
>> Chris
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Devin Prater >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can find info at:
>>> https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ 
>>> You can install it with Homebrew.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
>>> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
>>> Services for the Blind
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Stacey Robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 Where can I find info about youtube dl?
 Peace, 
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  > wrote:
> 
> Oh, that’s good. I looked at Downy, and I think I’ll just stick with 
> Youtube-dl. Far less expensive.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
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> Services for the Blind
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:31 PM, E.T. > > wrote:
>> 
>>   Downie will do this. I have not installed the app yet but the site 
>> states that you can do this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . ..
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>  and say God did it" --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 11/5/2017 12:09 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> Do any of these allow one to download only the audio of the video?
>>> Devin Prater
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>>> Services for the Blind
 On Oct 26, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Jürgen Fleger >>> >> wrote:
 
 Hi Robert, Chuck and Andrew,
 thanks for your great ideas. Really helpful.
 Jürgen
 
 
> Am 26.10.2017 um 17:31 schrieb Robert Cole   >>:
> 
> Hi,
> Lately, I have been pressing command R To reload the page when a add 
> starts to play, then my video will start.
> I haven’t had any trouble so far.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Jürgen Fleger > > >> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, thanks for the responds.
>> What I don’t like about the You Tube site are the ads at the 
>> beginning. I know I somehow could skip them but acutally I’m not 
>> sure which would be the best way to find the skip button quickly. Do 
>> you have a good strategy for this?
>> Jürgen
>> 
>>> Am 26.10.2017 um 13:56 schrieb jeff `greene >> >> >>:
>>> 
>>> Hi, No I don't think so. I always just find a video I want to keep 
>>> on
>>> youtube and then copy its url. Then I paste the url into softorino
>>> youtube converter and it starts downloading. You can also download 
>>> the
>>> video as an mp3 file too.
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/26/17, Jürgen Fleger >> 

Re: Downloading youtube videos as mp3

[Jeff Berwick]

Do a search for youtube-dl - it seems to work quite well.
Jeff


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> Hi all:
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> is there a free and lite app that can download videos and from youtube as 
> mp3`? i need them very urgently.
> Tu
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Re: Spam calls: how to stop the robots from calling your iPhone or Android, The Verge

[Jeff Berwick]

Based on the article, they only offer it to people on post-paid plans—not to 
those on pre-paid plans.


> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> What does that have to do with the providers free service for robo calls?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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>> I think it refers to paying your bill at the end of your cycle “post” rather 
>> than paying for it prior to your billing period “pre.”
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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>>> From the online dictionary courtesy Google.
>>> 
>>>  (with reference to a letter or parcel) on which postage has already been 
>>> paid.
>>>  "use the postpaid envelope provided"
>>> 
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>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
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Re: Spam calls: how to stop the robots from calling your iPhone or Android, The Verge

[Jeff Berwick]

I think it refers to paying your bill at the end of your cycle “post” rather 
than paying for it prior to your billing period “pre.”

Jeff


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Re: Smart lights & apple home

[Jeff Berwick]

I have the bridge and have successfully used both the Hue app and the Home app 
to control my lights.

I don’t know anything about power consumption or requirements, but I suspect it 
only requires a standard socket.

Jeff


> On Feb 20, 2018, at 3:41 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi Jeff,
>  
> So the Philips Hue system is accessible including the IOS app for my phone or 
> did you do the setup / config your notebook?
>  
> Did you use the bridge or have you input the Hue switchs
>  
> Also any idea what the power usage is due to needing power supply switch on 
> at the wall to get the smart feature of the bulbs.
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> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Smart lights & apple home
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> Hi Simon,
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> I have recently installed the Philips Hue system around my house and the 
> process has been completely accessible.
>  
> Jeff
>  
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> 
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 3:20 AM, Simon Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
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Re: Smart lights & apple home

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Simon,

I have recently installed the Philips Hue system around my house and the 
process has been completely accessible.

Jeff


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Re: Mac's messages app reporting incorrect number of unread messages

[Jeff Berwick]

I have found that the Messages app includes the count of unread Mail messages.  
So, if you have 15 unread message in your Mail inbox, this would explain it.
Jeff


> On Feb 11, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I have seen this with IMAP systems where items are flagged for deletion. Try 
> Erase Deleted Items in the Mailbox menu and see if it cleans up.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
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> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 7:54 PM Aleeha Dudley  > wrote:
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Re: Accessible Thermostats

[Jeff Berwick]

Must admit, I do not know, but the app is completely accessible and I set it up 
myself—after my HVAC guy installed it on my wall.

Jeff


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Re: Accessible Thermostats

[Jeff Berwick]

I just got the Lyric T5 and I am very happy with it.  It works with Homekit and 
with my Google Home speakers.

Jeff


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Re: Apple watch

[Jeff Berwick]

Yes.  Two-finger double tap and hold and then move your fingers up or down the 
watch face to increase or decrease the volume.

Jeff


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Re: Logitech Keyboards

[Jeff Berwick]

Sorry, I just looked at my Bluetooth connection in System Preferences and I 
have the K760.

Jeff


> On Jan 8, 2018, at 11:06 AM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   Maybe yours is a 480? I just looked at the 780 and it has a numpad.
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> On 1/8/2018 4:27 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> Feels like a regular keyboard.  It does not have a num pad—it is a compact 
>> keyboard.
>> Jeff
>>> On Jan 7, 2018, at 7:31 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Oh that is not good. No I don't plan on dropping any. (grin) Actually 
>>> there are times I wonder why I do not break more things.
>>> 
>>>   How is its tactile function? Does it feel crowded or is that decent? Does 
>>> it have a numpad? Thanks, appreciate the response.
>>> 
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>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 1/7/2018 4:23 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>>> I believe I have the k780 and it connects to 3 separate devices.  I am 
>>>> quite pleased with its operation and plan on getting a new one—this one 
>>>> has been dropped too many times. ;)
>>>> Jeff
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Ok I have seen these mentioned on list before but never paid much 
>>>>> attention. The Logitech K480, K780 and K810. They arer multi device, how 
>>>>> well does that work? Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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>>>>>>I am considering getting a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard that is full 
>>>>>> size and with decent tactile keys. Also want to use it with the Windows 
>>>>>> VM. The current Logitech I have I think is the Elite model, works nice 
>>>>>> but the right option key is defective. Appreciate suggestions, thanks.
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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Re: Logitech Keyboards

[Jeff Berwick]

Feels like a regular keyboard.  It does not have a num pad—it is a compact 
keyboard.
Jeff


> On Jan 7, 2018, at 7:31 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Oh that is not good. No I don't plan on dropping any. (grin) Actually there 
> are times I wonder why I do not break more things.
> 
>   How is its tactile function? Does it feel crowded or is that decent? Does 
> it have a numpad? Thanks, appreciate the response.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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> On 1/7/2018 4:23 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> I believe I have the k780 and it connects to 3 separate devices.  I am quite 
>> pleased with its operation and plan on getting a new one—this one has been 
>> dropped too many times. ;)
>> Jeff
>>> On Jan 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Ok I have seen these mentioned on list before but never paid much 
>>> attention. The Logitech K480, K780 and K810. They arer multi device, how 
>>> well does that work? Thanks for any feedback.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 1/6/2018 10:15 AM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>I am considering getting a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard that is full 
>>>> size and with decent tactile keys. Also want to use it with the Windows 
>>>> VM. The current Logitech I have I think is the Elite model, works nice but 
>>>> the right option key is defective. Appreciate suggestions, thanks.
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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