Re: Excel Question

2019-11-02 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Tim,

I played with the sheet navigator and it took me to a table with ten blank 
cells and columns.  I didn’t seem to get any further but thank you for your 
response.


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> On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:53 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In Numbers, you can have multiple Sheets each having multiple tables.  Use 
> the Sheet navigator to move between the various sheets and, if the tables 
> aren't properly labelled, you'll need to interact with each table to 
> determine if it's the right table.  I'm not aware of any keyboard shortcuts 
> for this, although I'll admit that I haven't actually taken the time to look 
> for any at this point.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> On Nov 1, 2019, at 20:08, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I was working on an Excel spreadsheet on the Mac this afternoon.  There were 
> a number of taables with list of  names inside them.  I couldn’t figure out 
> how to get from one table or sheet to the next.  Most of the people in the 
> organization I working with use JAWS.  The Accessibility line person 
> suggested that I look t the Numberss menu to see if that would help but it 
> didn’t.  How do you get from one sheet to another on the Mac in Numbers?
> 
> 
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Re: Excel Question

2019-11-02 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
That was the one place I didn’t look.  Thank you for responding to my question.


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> On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mary Jo, you can find the commands to move from sheet to sheet in numbers  
> window menu which is all the way to the right just before the help menu. 
> Sent from my IPhone
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>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I was working on an Excel spreadsheet on the Mac this afternoon.  There were 
>> a number of taables with list of  names inside them.  I couldn’t figure out 
>> how to get from one table or sheet to the next.  Most of the people in the 
>> organization I working with use JAWS.  The Accessibility line person 
>> suggested that I look t the Numberss menu to see if that would help but it 
>> didn’t.  How do you get from one sheet to another on the Mac in Numbers?
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
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Excel Question

2019-11-01 Thread Mary Jo Partyka


I was working on an Excel spreadsheet on the Mac this afternoon.  There were a 
number of taables with list of  names inside them.  I couldn’t figure out how 
to get from one table or sheet to the next.  Most of the people in the 
organization I working with use JAWS.  The Accessibility line person suggested 
that I look t the Numberss menu to see if that would help but it didn’t.  How 
do you get from one sheet to another on the Mac in Numbers?


Mary Jo Partyka
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, David,

I use bill pay for most of my expenses but we got our kitchen fixed recently 
which necessitated writing out checks for people who provided us with service 
at that time.


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> On Jun 17, 2019, at 10:38 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I stopped writing checks in 2003. I was banking with Wells Fargo at the time. 
> Any checks which I needed to write I set up in Bill Pay. I added all the 
> details and the bank sent the check on the day I scheduled.
> 
> Now, I do not need to have any checks sent. All of my utilities and such 
> either have direct bank transfers, or they receive credit cards. In some 
> cases, the fee for using the credit card is lower than the benefits (points 
> or cash back) which I accrue from using the card.
> 
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> 
>> On 18 Jun 2019, at 12:23, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Karen,
>> 
>> When I started doing online banking in 2000, I had to give the bank a list 
>> of my payees,whether business or personal, and write in all the necessary 
>> information including, address, telephone number, account number etc.  These 
>> payees appear in the payment section of the website and I pay whoever I need 
>> to by putting in the amount and when it should be paid.  After I submit this 
>> information, I will receive confirmation numbers showing that these bills 
>> have been paid.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> May I ask how you use bill pay to send money to non businesses?  granted 
>>> you  may have a different  definition for the term and your bank may allow 
>>> for such going to personal accounts.  still, I am following this thread 
>>> myself, especially as, for me personally, paypal  becomes more of a 
>>> technical issue.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019, Mary Jo Partyka wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds good.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 10:51 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once I get the rent deal worked out, I won't need to write checks. I even 
>>>>> use bill pay to send money to a friend. Bill pay and debit card is all I 
>>>>> use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/16/2019 10:28 PM, Mary Jo Partyka wrote:
>>>>>> I also use bill pay but there are some instances where checks still 
>>>>>> haveto be used.
>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>>> choir...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I pay the majority of my bills with Bil Pay and if only my landlord 
>>>>>>> would get off his arse and inform RentCafe to stop using captchas on 
>>>>>>> their web site, I might not have to write any more checks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/15/2019 9:53 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, Mary:
>>>>>>>> You may want to consider getting away from checks at least partly,
>>>>>>>> meaning to whatever extend might be comfortable for you.
>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting you consider the relatively new service called Zelle,
>>>>>>>> especially if your bank is already a member of Zelle.
>>>>>>>> If it is a member you probably already have a feature on your bank's
>>>>>>>> phone app to allow you to securely and accessibly send money to anyone
>>>>>>>> else via their email address or mobile phone number.
>>>>>>>

Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Bill

I have a Mac so I may consider downloading Check Book pro.  I used to use 
deluxe checking for my print sheets but they are not affiliated with Bank of 
America any more. A friend of ours was able to provide me with checks that are 
the full size of a full sheet of paper so this may work.  I don’t write out 
very many cchecks but I do write out some and would like to do it privately as 
I have been doing.


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:55 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> On the Mac, I’m using an app named Checkbook Pro from Splasm Software.  There 
> is a Checkbook Pro available for iDevices, but this is not connected with the 
> Mac version to the best of my knowledge.  There are other iOS check writing 
> apps.
> If you want to use the app to actually print filled out checks I must advise  
> that you’ll need full-sheet blank checks such as Quick Books checks.  These 
> can be purchased through your bank or directly through Deluxe Checks but they 
> are rather expensive.  I suppose this isn’t really a big deal if you only 
> write a few checks a month.  You will likewise need the full-sheet blank 
> checks if this is for an iOS device.
> 
> I typically write out 4 to 6 checks a month to pay individuals who are not 
> quite as connected as electronic payments would require.  I prefer to use 
> Checkbook Pro as a check register exclusively and use the check writing 
> templates available through many blind service organizations.  Of course, 
> there are those folks that have no idea how to form letters and/or numerals 
> so I would imagine this would not be feasible for them.
> 
> One last point, the numbers that appear at the bottom of a check (Routing 
> Number, Account Number and I don’t know what the third sequence of numerals 
> represents) are printed on official checks with magnetic ink to facilitate 
> processing.  This is why you cannot print out the entirety of a check from a 
> blank sheet of paper.  Of course, I imagine those magnetic ink printers could 
> be purchased but I suspect the cost would be extremely prohibitive.
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-17 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Karen,

When I started doing online banking in 2000, I had to give the bank a list of 
my payees,whether business or personal, and write in all the necessary 
information including, address, telephone number, account number etc.  These 
payees appear in the payment section of the website and I pay whoever I need to 
by putting in the amount and when it should be paid.  After I submit this 
information, I will receive confirmation numbers showing that these bills have 
been paid.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 17, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> May I ask how you use bill pay to send money to non businesses?  granted you  
> may have a different  definition for the term and your bank may allow for 
> such going to personal accounts.  still, I am following this thread myself, 
> especially as, for me personally, paypal  becomes more of a technical issue.
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019, Mary Jo Partyka wrote:
> 
>> Sounds good.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 10:51 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Once I get the rent deal worked out, I won't need to write checks. I even 
>>> use bill pay to send money to a friend. Bill pay and debit card is all I 
>>> use.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 6/16/2019 10:28 PM, Mary Jo Partyka wrote:
>>>> I also use bill pay but there are some instances where checks still haveto 
>>>> be used.
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I pay the majority of my bills with Bil Pay and if only my landlord 
>>>>> would get off his arse and inform RentCafe to stop using captchas on 
>>>>> their web site, I might not have to write any more checks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/15/2019 9:53 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, Mary:
>>>>>> You may want to consider getting away from checks at least partly,
>>>>>> meaning to whatever extend might be comfortable for you.
>>>>>> I'm suggesting you consider the relatively new service called Zelle,
>>>>>> especially if your bank is already a member of Zelle.
>>>>>> If it is a member you probably already have a feature on your bank's
>>>>>> phone app to allow you to securely and accessibly send money to anyone
>>>>>> else via their email address or mobile phone number.
>>>>>> This isn't the way to pay your electric bill, but you've likely already
>>>>>> figured how to do that without paper, envelopes, and stamps, and the
>>>>>> local postal mailbox.
>>>>>> Here's a web link to learn more:
>>>>>> https://www.zellepay.com/
>>>>>> Personally, I almost never use paper checks anymore. Frankly, the growth
>>>>>> of person to person payment services like Zelle, as well as services to
>>>>>> pay merchants like Apple Pay, PayPal, or the good old plastic
>>>>>> credit/debit card likely explains why there's less and less support for
>>>>>> trying to make handling paper payments accessible.
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app 
>>>>>>> isn’t really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  
>>>>>>> Are there any apps which would enableme to write out checks?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>>>> choir...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-17 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Sounds good.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 17, 2019, at 10:51 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Once I get the rent deal worked out, I won't need to write checks. I even 
> use bill pay to send money to a friend. Bill pay and debit card is all I use.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 6/16/2019 10:28 PM, Mary Jo Partyka wrote:
>> I also use bill pay but there are some instances where checks still haveto 
>> be used.
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I pay the majority of my bills with Bil Pay and if only my landlord would 
>>> get off his arse and inform RentCafe to stop using captchas on their web 
>>> site, I might not have to write any more checks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 6/15/2019 9:53 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hi, Mary:
>>>> You may want to consider getting away from checks at least partly,
>>>> meaning to whatever extend might be comfortable for you.
>>>> I'm suggesting you consider the relatively new service called Zelle,
>>>> especially if your bank is already a member of Zelle.
>>>> If it is a member you probably already have a feature on your bank's
>>>> phone app to allow you to securely and accessibly send money to anyone
>>>> else via their email address or mobile phone number.
>>>> This isn't the way to pay your electric bill, but you've likely already
>>>> figured how to do that without paper, envelopes, and stamps, and the
>>>> local postal mailbox.
>>>> Here's a web link to learn more:
>>>> https://www.zellepay.com/
>>>> Personally, I almost never use paper checks anymore. Frankly, the growth
>>>> of person to person payment services like Zelle, as well as services to
>>>> pay merchants like Apple Pay, PayPal, or the good old plastic
>>>> credit/debit card likely explains why there's less and less support for
>>>> trying to make handling paper payments accessible.
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> Janina
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app 
>>>>> isn’t really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  
>>>>> Are there any apps which would enableme to write out checks?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>> choir...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-16 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I never used the raised-line checks.  Bank of America used to work with a 
company called Deluxe Checking which provided customers with checks which were 
the size of a piece of typing paper which a hole punched on the left side and 
it made it easy to write checks.  But they don’t work with this company any 
more.


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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> Bank of America does use that. I've been trying to figure out how to pay my 
> rent that way. I've been writing raised line checks with an ancient manual 
> typewriter if you can imagine that. I think it's time for a change.
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> I think Bank of America might use that.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:53 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Mary:
>>> 
>>> You may want to consider getting away from checks at least partly,
>>> meaning to whatever extend might be comfortable for you.
>>> 
>>> I'm suggesting you consider the relatively new service called Zelle,
>>> especially if your bank is already a member of Zelle.
>>> 
>>> If it is a member you probably already have a feature on your bank's
>>> phone app to allow you to securely and accessibly send money to anyone
>>> else via their email address or mobile phone number.
>>> 
>>> This isn't the way to pay your electric bill, but you've likely already
>>> figured how to do that without paper, envelopes, and stamps, and the
>>> local postal mailbox.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here's a web link to learn more:
>>> 
>>> https://www.zellepay.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Personally, I almost never use paper checks anymore. Frankly, the growth
>>> of person to person payment services like Zelle, as well as services to
>>> pay merchants like Apple Pay, PayPal, or the good old plastic
>>> credit/debit card likely explains why there's less and less support for
>>> trying to make handling paper payments accessible.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Mary Jo Partyka writes:
>>>> 
>>>> I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app 
>>>> isn’t really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  
>>>> Are there any apps which would enableme to write out checks?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-16 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I also use bill pay but there are some instances where checks still haveto be 
used.


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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I pay the majority of my bills with Bil Pay and if only my landlord would 
> get off his arse and inform RentCafe to stop using captchas on their web 
> site, I might not have to write any more checks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 6/15/2019 9:53 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi, Mary:
>> You may want to consider getting away from checks at least partly,
>> meaning to whatever extend might be comfortable for you.
>> I'm suggesting you consider the relatively new service called Zelle,
>> especially if your bank is already a member of Zelle.
>> If it is a member you probably already have a feature on your bank's
>> phone app to allow you to securely and accessibly send money to anyone
>> else via their email address or mobile phone number.
>> This isn't the way to pay your electric bill, but you've likely already
>> figured how to do that without paper, envelopes, and stamps, and the
>> local postal mailbox.
>> Here's a web link to learn more:
>> https://www.zellepay.com/
>> Personally, I almost never use paper checks anymore. Frankly, the growth
>> of person to person payment services like Zelle, as well as services to
>> pay merchants like Apple Pay, PayPal, or the good old plastic
>> credit/debit card likely explains why there's less and less support for
>> trying to make handling paper payments accessible.
>> Good luck!
>> Janina
>> Mary Jo Partyka writes:
>>> 
>>> I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app isn’t 
>>> really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  Are there 
>>> any apps which would enableme to write out checks?
>>> 
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-15 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.

I think Bank of America might use that.


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:53 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mary:
> 
> You may want to consider getting away from checks at least partly,
> meaning to whatever extend might be comfortable for you.
> 
> I'm suggesting you consider the relatively new service called Zelle,
> especially if your bank is already a member of Zelle.
> 
> If it is a member you probably already have a feature on your bank's
> phone app to allow you to securely and accessibly send money to anyone
> else via their email address or mobile phone number.
> 
> This isn't the way to pay your electric bill, but you've likely already
> figured how to do that without paper, envelopes, and stamps, and the
> local postal mailbox.
> 
> 
> Here's a web link to learn more:
> 
> https://www.zellepay.com/
> 
> 
> Personally, I almost never use paper checks anymore. Frankly, the growth
> of person to person payment services like Zelle, as well as services to
> pay merchants like Apple Pay, PayPal, or the good old plastic
> credit/debit card likely explains why there's less and less support for
> trying to make handling paper payments accessible.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Janina
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka writes:
>> 
>> I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app isn’t 
>> really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  Are there 
>> any apps which would enableme to write out checks?
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-15 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Okay, I will.


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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> If you find something, please let me know.
> It is hard for people to believe but there are people that do not use
> cell phones or have email addresses...
> Tim
> 
> 
> On 6/14/19, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app isn’t
>> really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  Are there
>> any apps which would enableme to write out checks?
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
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Requesting Information on Checkwriting Apps

2019-06-14 Thread Mary Jo Partyka


I have been a long-time user of the Talking Checkbook app but the app isn’t 
really working well any more.  The program is actually obsolete.  Are there any 
apps which would enableme to write out checks?


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Re: Wireless food thermometer

2019-05-12 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hope you find something.  Let us know what you wind up getting.  Like I said, 
Stan doesn’t use his much and I’m not sure why.


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> On May 12, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ben Constantini  
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> I saw that one . Thinking about it .
> Ben Constantini
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> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 12:56 AM, Mary Jo Partyka > <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi, Ben,
>> 
>> I think Stan got ours from Idevices.  I don’t know how much he uses it these 
>> days.
>> 
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>>> On May 11, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Ben Constantini >> <mailto:bennnyconstant...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I will have to check them out .
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 11, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> AT  Guys sold 1 a few years ago. I haven't seen it mentioned recently.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 11, 2019, at 12:12 PM, N2KPV >>> <mailto:bennnyconstant...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know of  a food thermometer that works with the Mac or the 
>>>>> iPhone ? My older one finally bit the dust .
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Re: Wireless food thermometer

2019-05-11 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Ben,

I think Stan got ours from Idevices.  I don’t know how much he uses it these 
days.


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>> AT  Guys sold 1 a few years ago. I haven't seen it mentioned recently.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Does anyone know of  a food thermometer that works with the Mac or the 
>>> iPhone ? My older one finally bit the dust .
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Re: Thinking of Downgrading Back to iPhone 8 Because of Lack of Touch ID - Finding Face ID not as Efficient and Slower

2019-05-09 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On May 8, 2019, at 9:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A couple of things to consider:
> 
> 1.  Like with a finger-print iPhone, if the iPhone is off, it will require 
> your pass-code.
> 2.  Know that as soon as you wake the iPhone, it will start searching for 
> your face.  Consider this for the next item.
> 3.  Make sure that Raise to Wake is turned off.  This is in Settings, Display 
> & Brightness.  Disable it as it can cause the iPhone to start searching 
> before you're ready.
> 4.  As you note during the Face ID setup, the iPhone is looking at your face 
> from multiple angles.  Thus a perfect alignment is not necessarily needed.  
> Make sure though that the face of the iPhone is pointed towards your face, 
> and that it is a foot or more away when you hit the side button.  As soon as 
> the side button is pressed, the iPhone will begin searching for your face to 
> authenticate.  If you get the double-haptic vibration, it has accepted your 
> face and you're ready to go.  If you get the triple or quadruple haptic 
> vibration, then it failed.  In that case, press the side button, wait a 
> second then press the side button again to let it try once more.
> 5.  If there is a notification on the screen, like an iMessage, you can 
> authenticate with Face ID, then simply double-tap on the notification to go 
> stragiht to Messages without the need to do the swipe up from bottom to 
> unlock gesture.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 7, 2019, at 19:55, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Tim,
> 
> I was looking at some responses to the face-id dilemma.  I had someone from 
> Apple Support help me reset my face-id and it worked.  However, i tried to 
> unlock it several times with no success.  Is there a certain way I should be 
> holding my phone to make it work?  iI have my attention features off and am 
> just confused.
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2019, at 11:08 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't have any real issues with Face ID.  Do you have the Attention 
>> feature disabled?  Normally, I just pull out my iPhone, put it in a close 
>> enough proximity to normal position, then press the side button.  Within a 
>> very short time, I feel the double-haptic vibration and I'm good to go.  It 
>> doesn't even need to be in perfect position.  I can have it a little off to 
>> the side, or a little higher or lower than my face, and it unlocks just 
>> fine.  I only need to enter the pass-code once every week or two.  The times 
>> that I do have an issue with it not recognizing my face, I just lock the 
>> screen, wait a second or so then go through the process again and it unlocks.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 7, 2019, at 08:38, Mika Pyyhkala > <mailto:pyyhk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I got the iPhone 10S around launch time, and while of course face id
>> technically works with VoiceOver, I find its much less efficient and
>> time consuming than touch id.  It seems to take more effort than it
>> did with touch id.
>> 
>> At least a few to several times a day I have to manually enter my
>> passcode.  This was rarely the case with touch id, maybe with touch
>> id, I might have to manually enter my passcode a few times a week
>> rather than a few times a day.
>> 
>> I have to concentrate a little bit to get face id to work where as the
>> touch id "just worked," it was kind of like breathing you never had to
>> even think about it for a nanosecond.
>> 
>> I wish someone did a study to see how much longer it takes VoiceOver
>> users to unlock the phone with face id instead of touch id.  I would
>> be shocked if it the same or faster.
>> 
>> It probably takes, I'm just guessing, an extra 1-3 seconds on average
>> to unlock the phone.
>> 
>> I find it also is a much less natural movement to have to pull the
>> phone pretty far from my face to unlock it as opposed to using the
>> fingerprint.
>> 
>> I am curious if the rest of you have this experience, or if you have
>> gotten face id to the poi

Re: Trouble learning face-id

2019-05-09 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you
Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On May 8, 2019, at 3:34 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jarmy jo,
> 
> I have turned attention off on my phone as with it on you need to be looking 
> at the camera to get it to work,
> However and this could be the same now on the iPhone also,
> On my iPad pro the attention mode was automatically off with voiceover being 
> on,
> It appears that apple have thought about that one.
> 
> Hope it helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Mary Jo Partyka
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 3:58 PM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Trouble learning face-id
> 
> Hi, Cliff,
> 
> Thank you for responding to me but I have another question.  Should the items 
> about attention be on or off.  I looked at something in Applevis and it said 
> that attention should be off.  Is that correct>  How do you know when you 
> face is in the frame?
> 
> I hope I’m not being tough on you but just looking for it to work.  I know 
> you and Matt will have the correct answer for me.
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 4:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to settings, faceID and pass code, tap setup face id, and hold the phone 
>> about 10 inches away from your face, and rotate your head in a circular 
>> motion, voiceover will guide you after that.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone X
>> 
>> On May 5, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I just purchased an xr last week and need help doing it.  I don’t mind 
>> putting in the passcode each time but that’s not really what I wanted.  Can 
>> someone describe what you have to do to make it work?
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Thinking of Downgrading Back to iPhone 8 Because of Lack of Touch ID - Finding Face ID not as Efficient and Slower

2019-05-07 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Tim,

I was looking at some responses to the face-id dilemma.  I had someone from 
Apple Support help me reset my face-id and it worked.  However, i tried to 
unlock it several times with no success.  Is there a certain way I should be 
holding my phone to make it work?  iI have my attention features off and am 
just confused.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On May 7, 2019, at 11:08 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't have any real issues with Face ID.  Do you have the Attention feature 
> disabled?  Normally, I just pull out my iPhone, put it in a close enough 
> proximity to normal position, then press the side button.  Within a very 
> short time, I feel the double-haptic vibration and I'm good to go.  It 
> doesn't even need to be in perfect position.  I can have it a little off to 
> the side, or a little higher or lower than my face, and it unlocks just fine. 
>  I only need to enter the pass-code once every week or two.  The times that I 
> do have an issue with it not recognizing my face, I just lock the screen, 
> wait a second or so then go through the process again and it unlocks.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 7, 2019, at 08:38, Mika Pyyhkala  <mailto:pyyhk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I got the iPhone 10S around launch time, and while of course face id
> technically works with VoiceOver, I find its much less efficient and
> time consuming than touch id.  It seems to take more effort than it
> did with touch id.
> 
> At least a few to several times a day I have to manually enter my
> passcode.  This was rarely the case with touch id, maybe with touch
> id, I might have to manually enter my passcode a few times a week
> rather than a few times a day.
> 
> I have to concentrate a little bit to get face id to work where as the
> touch id "just worked," it was kind of like breathing you never had to
> even think about it for a nanosecond.
> 
> I wish someone did a study to see how much longer it takes VoiceOver
> users to unlock the phone with face id instead of touch id.  I would
> be shocked if it the same or faster.
> 
> It probably takes, I'm just guessing, an extra 1-3 seconds on average
> to unlock the phone.
> 
> I find it also is a much less natural movement to have to pull the
> phone pretty far from my face to unlock it as opposed to using the
> fingerprint.
> 
> I am curious if the rest of you have this experience, or if you have
> gotten face id to the point whereyou think its just as efficient and
> does not take any longer than touch id.
> 
> I'm not sure if Jonathan Mosen still reads this list but he has
> mentioned  as an example and data point that he does not miss the
> touch id and he does not find the face id to be less efficient.
> 
> I would hate to go backwards but I find the face id to be at least a
> moderate annoyance when I was used to touch id working nearly
> perfectly 99% of the time.
> 
> Best,
> Mika
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Re: Trouble learning face-id

2019-05-07 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


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> On May 7, 2019, at 9:18 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Attention should be off.  It is usually off by default if VO is on.  VO will 
> announce when your face is positioned correctly.  As mentioned, hold the 
> iPhone about a foot from your face with the screen facing you and you should 
> hear VO announce all necessary steps to follow.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 6, 2019, at 21:57, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Cliff,
> 
> Thank you for responding to me but I have another question.  Should the items 
> about attention be on or off.  I looked at something in Applevis and it said 
> that attention should be off.  Is that correct>  How do you know when you 
> face is in the frame?
> 
> I hope I’m not being tough on you but just looking for it to work.  I know 
> you and Matt will have the correct answer for me.
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 4:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to settings, faceID and pass code, tap setup face id, and hold the phone 
>> about 10 inches away from your face, and rotate your head in a circular 
>> motion, voiceover will guide you after that.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone X
>> 
>> On May 5, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I just purchased an xr last week and need help doing it.  I don’t mind 
>> putting in the passcode each time but that’s not really what I wanted.  Can 
>> someone describe what you have to do to make it work?
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Trouble learning face-id

2019-05-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Cliff,

Thank you for responding to me but I have another question.  Should the items 
about attention be on or off.  I looked at something in Applevis and it said 
that attention should be off.  Is that correct>  How do you know when you face 
is in the frame?

I hope I’m not being tough on you but just looking for it to work.  I know you 
and Matt will have the correct answer for me.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On May 6, 2019, at 4:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> Go to settings, faceID and pass code, tap setup face id, and hold the phone 
> about 10 inches away from your face, and rotate your head in a circular 
> motion, voiceover will guide you after that.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone X
> 
> On May 5, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just purchased an xr last week and need help doing it.  I don’t mind 
> putting in the passcode each time but that’s not really what I wanted.  Can 
> someone describe what you have to do to make it work?
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Trouble learning face-id

2019-05-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I will try it.


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On May 6, 2019, at 4:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> Go to settings, faceID and pass code, tap setup face id, and hold the phone 
> about 10 inches away from your face, and rotate your head in a circular 
> motion, voiceover will guide you after that.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone X
> 
> On May 5, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just purchased an xr last week and need help doing it.  I don’t mind 
> putting in the passcode each time but that’s not really what I wanted.  Can 
> someone describe what you have to do to make it work?
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
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Re: Trouble learning face-id

2019-05-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
No

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> On May 6, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary Jo,
> 
> If voiceover is running then it should give you verbal commands on which 
> direction to look,
> Left, right, up to the right
> Up etc,
> 
> Have you given it an actual try as yet?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Mary Jo Partyka
> Sent: Monday, 6 May 2019 3:59 PM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Trouble learning face-id
> 
> 
> I just purchased an xr last week and need help doing it.  I don’t mind 
> putting in the passcode each time but that’s not really what I wanted.  Can 
> someone describe what you have to do to make it work?
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
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Trouble learning face-id

2019-05-05 Thread Mary Jo Partyka


I just purchased an xr last week and need help doing it.  I don’t mind putting 
in the passcode each time but that’s not really what I wanted.  Can someone 
describe what you have to do to make it work?


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Re: Numbers in Pages

2019-05-02 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


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> On May 1, 2019, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
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> Go to Preferences when in Pages by pressing cmd-comma or by going up to the 
> MenuBar, over to Pages, then down to Preferences.  In the Preferences 
> ToolBar, select Auto-Correct, then navigate to the Formatting heading.  The 
> first item in there should do what you want.  I suspect that Auto-detect 
> lists is the setting that is bothering you.  If you uncheck it, I believe 
> that it should stop that behaviour.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> On May 1, 2019, at 13:06, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I often prepare agendas and minutes for some of the committees which I’m on.  
> Is there any way to turn off numbers and put my own numbers in when doing 
> these documents?
> 
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Numbers in Pages

2019-05-01 Thread Mary Jo Partyka


Hi,

I often prepare agendas and minutes for some of the committees which I’m on.  
Is there any way to turn off numbers and put my own numbers in when doing these 
documents?


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Re: Apple mail

2019-03-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I should have probably pressed vo k before I asked the question.


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> On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:32 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Mary Jo,
> 
> On my British keyboard, the backslash is two keys to the right of semicolon. 
> However, you can find out what any key is by using VO-k to open the Keyboard 
> Help and pressing each key in turn. It also allows you to test any VO 
> commands.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Mar 2019, at 03:46, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
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>> Where is the backslash?
>> 
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Re: Apple mail

2019-03-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


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> On Mar 6, 2019, at 5:55 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> The key above your return / enter key
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Apple mail
> 
> Where is the backslash?
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
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> 
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2019, at 1:43 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Lorie,
>> 
>> What I do in Mail is to interact with the message list and navigate to the 
>> column I want to sort by. I then do the following series of commands:
>> VO-Shift-Backslash
>> VO-Space Bar
>> VO-Shift-Backslash.
>> Then if I want the sort to go in the opposite direction, I repeat the 
>> process.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5 Mar 2019, at 03:24, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> classic view, I think.
>>> My Youtube Channel:
>>> "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud   
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Lori,
>>>> 
>>>> Are you using the standard or the classic view in Apple Mail?
>>>> 
>>>> Just curious.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> can somebody please detail for me how to have my mail be sorted by date? 
>>>>> I think I'm doing it correctly but it doesn't say set. if I go 
>>>>> intoanother mailbox and come back it's off again. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
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Re: Apple mail

2019-03-05 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Where is the backslash?


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> On Mar 5, 2019, at 1:43 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> What I do in Mail is to interact with the message list and navigate to the 
> column I want to sort by. I then do the following series of commands:
> VO-Shift-Backslash
> VO-Space Bar
> VO-Shift-Backslash.
> Then if I want the sort to go in the opposite direction, I repeat the process.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 Mar 2019, at 03:24, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> classic view, I think.
>> My Youtube Channel:
>> "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lori,
>>> 
>>> Are you using the standard or the classic view in Apple Mail?
>>> 
>>> Just curious.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> can somebody please detail for me how to have my mail be sorted by date? I 
>>>> think I'm doing it correctly but it doesn't say set. if I go intoanother 
>>>> mailbox and come back it's off again. 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thanks you Clift for sending this.  
Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Feb 24, 2019, at 2:27 PM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> Below is a little cheat sheet I wrote up when using that Logitech keyboard, 
> enjoy
> iPad Keyboard commands
> 
> Safari
> 
> Toggle single key navigation on and off voiceover keys Q
> Reload Page, ⌘, R
> Back, ⌘, [
> Forward, ⌘, ]
> Find on Page, ⌘, F
> Open Location, ⌘, L
> Show Sidebar, ⇧ ⌘, L
> Add to Reading List, ⇧ ⌘, D
> New Tab, ⌘, T
> Close Tab, ⌘, W
> Show Previous Tab, ⌃ ⇧, ↹
> Show Next Tab, ⌃, ↹
> Show Tab Overview, ⇧ ⌘, \
> 
> Notes
> Bold, ⌘, B
> Italics, ⌘, I
> Underline, ⌘, U
> Title, ⇧ ⌘, T
> Heading, ⇧ ⌘, H
> Body, ⇧ ⌘, B
> Checklist, ⇧ ⌘, L
> Mark as Checked, ⇧ ⌘, U
> Table, ⌥ ⌘, T
> Indent Right, ⌘, ]
> Find in Note, ⌘, F
> Note List Search, ⌥ ⌘, F
> New Note, ⌘, N
> End Editing, ⌘, ⏎
> 
> Mail
> 
> New Message, ⌘, N
> Reply, ⌘, R
> Reply All, ⇧ ⌘, R
> Forward, ⇧ ⌘, FMark as Junk, ⇧ ⌘, J
> Flag, ⇧ ⌘, L
> Mark as Unread, ⇧ ⌘, U
> Get All New Mail, ⇧ ⌘, N
> Mailbox Search, ⌥ ⌘, F
> Delete Message, ⌫
> Archive Message, ⌃ ⌘, A
> Enable Message Filter, ⌘, L
> 
> Numbers
> 
> Copy Style, ⌥ ⌘, C
> Duplicate, ⌘, D
> Find, ⌘, F
> Lock, ⌘, L
> Add Row Above, ⌥, ↑
> Add Rows Below, ⌥, ↓
> Add Column Before, ⌥, ←
> Add Column After, ⌥, →
> Go to Previous Sheet, ⇧ ⌘, [
> Go to Next Sheet, ⇧ ⌘, ]
> Insert Sheet, ⇧ ⌘, N
> Create Spreadsheet, ⌘, N
> Go to Spreadsheets, ⌘, O
> 
> Pages
> 
> Create Document, ⌘, N
> Create Folder, ⇧ ⌘, N
> Bold, ⌘, B
> Italic, ⌘, I
> Underline, ⌘, U
> Increase Font Size, ⌘, +
> Decrease Font Size, ⌘, -
> Copy Style, ⌥ ⌘, C
> Add Comment, ⇧ ⌘, K
> Find, ⌘, F
> Get Word Count, ⇧ ⌘, W
> Hide Ruler, ⌘, R
> 
> Contacts
> 
> Edit a Contact, ⌘, L
> Create a New Contact, ⌘, NSearch for a Contact, ⌘, F
> Select the previous Contact, ↑Select the next Contact, ↓
> 
> Calendar
> 
> New Event, ⌘, N
> Search, ⌘, F
> Show Today, ⌘, T
> Refresh Calendars, ⌘, R
> Go to the Next Day, Week, Month or Year, ⌘, →
> Go to the Previous Day, Week, Month or Year, ⌘, ←
> Select the Next Event, ↹
> Select the Previous Event, ⇧, ↹
> Select the Next Event, →
> Select the Previous Event, ←
> Select the Next Event, ↓
> Select the Previous Event, ↑
> Go to Day View, ⌘, 1
> Go to Week View, ⌘, 2
> Go to Month View, ⌘, 3
> Go to Year View, ⌘, 4
> 
> Basic navigation and editing commands
> 
> VoiceOver Keyboard Commands
> VO = Control-Option
> Read all, starting from the current
> position: VO-A
> Read from the top: VO-B
> Move to the status bar: VO-M
> Press the Home button: VO-H
> Select the next or previous item: VO-
> Right Arrow or VO-Left Arrow
> Tap an item: VO-Space bar
> Double-tap with two fingers: VO-"-"
> Choose the next or previous rotor
> item: VO-Up Arrow or VO-Down Arrow
> Choose the next or previous speech rotor
> item: VO-Command-Left Arrow or VO-
> Command-Right Arrow
> Adjust speech rotor item: VO-Command-
> Up Arrow or VO-Command-Down Arrow
> Mute or unmute VoiceOver: VO-S
> Turn the screen curtain on or off: VO-
> Shift-S
> Turn on VoiceOver help: VO-K
> Return to the previous screen, or turn off
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> 
> Quick Nav
> Turn on Quick Nav to control VoiceOver
> using the arrow keys. Quick Nav is off by
> default.
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> Arrow
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that's cool!  I hadn't figured all that out yet.  This keyboard also 
>> has some nice heft to it.  There were two Logitech keyboards, but the other 
>> one seemed a little flimsier than this one.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Yes, Logitech was right on the money with that keyboard.  Wish they would 
>>> make a version for the iPad Pro 11 inch.  That is my only regret of 
>>> upgrad

Re: Apple Music and match.

2019-01-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
If your friend hi Sarah if your friend gets rid of the match, then she will 
lose all the music that was on from the match so you would just have your Apple 
Music

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Sarah Massengale  wrote:
> 
> I’m interested to hear a response to this as well.  My partner has had match 
> for several years but is considering going to Apple Music.  So, I’m curious 
> how the switch would affect the albums my partner has saved with match.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I actually have an apple music account and also the match feature.
>> If i remove the match feature will this affect my apple music albums?
>> I know it will affect all the albums i’ve ripped but will it be something i 
>> would hear in all the apple music albums i’ve added.
>> /A
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Re: Difficulty Opening Safari

2018-11-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.

I’ll check it.


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> On Nov 18, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> when I get that message it's because there's something wrong with my internet 
> connection. there could be other reasons but that's the one I know about.
> My Youtube Channel:
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> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have been on a number of sites tonight and attempting to activate their 
>> links in safari.  Every time I vo space on a link, I get a message saying 
>> “can’t open page”.  Why would I be receiving this message>
>> 
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Difficulty Opening Safari

2018-11-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka


I have been on a number of sites tonight and attempting to activate their links 
in safari.  Every time I vo space on a link, I get a message saying “can’t open 
page”.  Why would I be receiving this message>


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Re: Question about Auto Fill when Completing Forms on the Mac

2018-11-16 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I can understand that.


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> On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> There are some sites, including things that I maintain that do not want 
> Autofill to work on the site. In most cases this is a bank that considers 
> password auto-filling to be an easy way to get hacked, and considering the 
> cross site scripting vulnerabilities that made Apple require true user input 
> before auto-fill occurs they were probably right. 
> 
> Other times autofill might be set to no, so that answered are original on 
> subsequent visits. 
>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use it for auto-filling username/password info all the time.  Just 
>> navigate to the field, press the down arrow once, then press return.  There 
>> are a few sites that must use a improper field protocol as those do not 
>> accept the auto-fill items.  Normally, VO will announce something about 
>> "Auto-fill" if the field has those options, but that's still not a guarantee.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2018, at 17:43, John JD Denning > <mailto:jdenning1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m also interested in people’s results with this. I actually got it to work 
>> a couple times the other day. I was surprised because that was the first 
>> time it’s worked for me and I keep trying it. I don’t know what I did 
>> different. And I’m not able to do it again. So if it should be working and 
>> I’m doing something wrong I would love to know what.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2018, at 16:57, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been playing with this and when I press the up or down arrow and 
>>> press the return key, nothing happens.  My information isn’t appearing in 
>>> the fields like it should be.  Am I doing something wrong?
>>> 
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Question about Auto Fill when Completing Forms on the Mac

2018-11-15 Thread Mary Jo Partyka


I have been playing with this and when I press the up or down arrow and press 
the return key, nothing happens.  My information isn’t appearing in the fields 
like it should be.  Am I doing something wrong?


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Re: Help working with spreadsheets in Numbers?

2018-08-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


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> On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I had no problem with selecting items in a column using the shift and down 
> arrow key. I verified with just using vo-F6 which said I had 5 cells 
> selected. Also, you should be able to click the cell at the very top of the 
> table to select the entire column.. 
>  
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 12:44 AM, Phantom.Vader > <mailto:phantom.va...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Desperately need some help with Numbers.  I feel kind of daft asking
>> this, though, because it seems like it should be obvious!  But
>> apparently not.  Anyway, I'm trying to copy data from one spreadsheet
>> to another.  But, although Numbers/VO seem perfectly happy to let me
>> select a row, I can't for the life of me get it to select a single
>> column so I can copy the data into the corresponding column in the new
>> sheet!  I've tried every keystroke I can think of, but none of them
>> will simply select the next cell down the column without selecting the
>> entire row as well.  So can anyone tell me if/how I do that?  Thanks!
>> If there's a way, it'd be an enormous help!  Because, otherwise, I'm
>> going to have to do a lot of laborious typing that's going to hurt the
>> hell out of my main typing and navigating hand and shoulder!
>> 
>> Anyhow, thanks.  And really hope to hear from some one soon!
>> 
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Re: Help working with spreadsheets in Numbers?

2018-08-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka

Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.

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> On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:06 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sometimes, VO will make odd announcements when trying to select.  Turn VO 
> off, then back on again to see if that fixes the problem.  Also, make sure to 
> have interacted with the table to have best selection results.  Jonathan's 
> suggestion with the VO-f6 command is also a good go-to, as the announcement 
> can sometimes be misleading.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 19, 2018, at 08:40, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I had no problem with selecting items in a column using the shift and down 
> arrow key. I verified with just using vo-F6 which said I had 5 cells 
> selected. Also, you should be able to click the cell at the very top of the 
> table to select the entire column.. 
>  
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 12:44 AM, Phantom.Vader > <mailto:phantom.va...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Desperately need some help with Numbers.  I feel kind of daft asking
>> this, though, because it seems like it should be obvious!  But
>> apparently not.  Anyway, I'm trying to copy data from one spreadsheet
>> to another.  But, although Numbers/VO seem perfectly happy to let me
>> select a row, I can't for the life of me get it to select a single
>> column so I can copy the data into the corresponding column in the new
>> sheet!  I've tried every keystroke I can think of, but none of them
>> will simply select the next cell down the column without selecting the
>> entire row as well.  So can anyone tell me if/how I do that?  Thanks!
>> If there's a way, it'd be an enormous help!  Because, otherwise, I'm
>> going to have to do a lot of laborious typing that's going to hurt the
>> hell out of my main typing and navigating hand and shoulder!
>> 
>> Anyhow, thanks.  And really hope to hear from some one soon!
>> 
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Re: Reading an Excel Spreadsheet on the Mac in Numbers

2018-08-15 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Jonathan,

Thank you.


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> On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to use VO search to see if you can find fields with 
> specific values. I believe the standard command-F functionality works some 
> also. With Numbers spreadsheets it is important to make sure you are at the 
> appropriate level of interactions. You want to interact with the table but 
> not the cell. Then you should be able to use the arrow keys with/without VO  
> to move to individual cells.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2018, at 11:28 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> I am doing a report and someone put the information on a spreadsheet for me 
>> in Numbers.  I could see the headings because they are in the a column.  How 
>> do I get to the totals I need.  The spreadsheet has 7 12 lines and 144 
>> columns.
>> 
>> I took a basic course in Excel but am having trouble with this.
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
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Reading an Excel Spreadsheet on the Mac in Numbers

2018-08-14 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I am doing a report and someone put the information on a spreadsheet for me in 
Numbers.  I could see the headings because they are in the a column.  How do I 
get to the totals I need.  The spreadsheet has 7 12 lines and 144 columns.

I took a basic course in Excel but am having trouble with this.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Question about Flicktype

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Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-27 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 27, 2018, at 5:12 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:27 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Les,
>> I started using the mobile bank of america app and like it.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Les Kriegler >> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>> 
>>> Well, I think you’ll like it because there is a confirmation screen where 
>>> you can review the information you entered it before you submit it. Also, I 
>>> don’t remember adding pays very often because I did it many years ago, and 
>>> I have all them set up in my pay you less. I think it might’ve been easier 
>>> to add the man on the website, but it can be done via the app. It’s all a 
>>> matter of personal preference, I think.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know.
>>>> 
>>>> I have it on my phone but was afraid I would make a mistake when I was 
>>>> paying bills.  I’ll try it and see how it works.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Les Kriegler >>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use the app on my iPhone.
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I may contact you again.  I will try using Safari and Google Chrome on 
>>>>>> the Mac.  Do you use the mobile version or the one on the website?
>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:17 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve used their Web-based banking application successfully with both 
>>>>>>> Chrome and Safari on the Mac with VoiceOver.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My name is Leslie Kriegler, and if I can help you, I will be glad to do 
>>>>>>> so. The reason I don’t use the website much is because the app does 
>>>>>>> everything I need. Our use the website to download transactions from 
>>>>>>> BankAmerica into money talks, but that’s really the only use I have for 
>>>>>>> the website at this point. The app performs all the functions that I 
>>>>>>> need. Good luck.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Leslie
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>>>> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will 
>>>>>>>> try it.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>&g

Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-26 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Les,
I started using the mobile bank of america app and like it.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary Jo,
> 
> Well, I think you’ll like it because there is a confirmation screen where you 
> can review the information you entered it before you submit it. Also, I don’t 
> remember adding pays very often because I did it many years ago, and I have 
> all them set up in my pay you less. I think it might’ve been easier to add 
> the man on the website, but it can be done via the app. It’s all a matter of 
> personal preference, I think.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I know.
>> 
>> I have it on my phone but was afraid I would make a mistake when I was 
>> paying bills.  I’ll try it and see how it works.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Les Kriegler >> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>> 
>>> I use the app on my iPhone.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I may contact you again.  I will try using Safari and Google Chrome on the 
>>>> Mac.  Do you use the mobile version or the one on the website?
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:17 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve used their Web-based banking application successfully with both 
>>>>> Chrome and Safari on the Mac with VoiceOver.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:42 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My name is Leslie Kriegler, and if I can help you, I will be glad to do 
>>>>> so. The reason I don’t use the website much is because the app does 
>>>>> everything I need. Our use the website to download transactions from 
>>>>> BankAmerica into money talks, but that’s really the only use I have for 
>>>>> the website at this point. The app performs all the functions that I 
>>>>> need. Good luck.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Leslie
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will try 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Les Kriegler >>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I cannot answer your question about the website, however, are usually 
>>>>>>> mobile banking app and it works really well. Now they have a service 
>>>>>>> where you can actually use your voice to pay bills and find 
>>>>>>> transactions amongst other things. It’s really accessible and I’ve used 
>>>>>>> the app for years. Good luck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>>>> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi, Eileen,
&g

Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Les,

I have a few bills to pay tomorrow so I will try it.

I also agree that adding and deleting payees is easier on the website.  I don’t 
do it very often either.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary Jo,
> 
> Well, I think you’ll like it because there is a confirmation screen where you 
> can review the information you entered it before you submit it. Also, I don’t 
> remember adding pays very often because I did it many years ago, and I have 
> all them set up in my pay you less. I think it might’ve been easier to add 
> the man on the website, but it can be done via the app. It’s all a matter of 
> personal preference, I think.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I know.
>> 
>> I have it on my phone but was afraid I would make a mistake when I was 
>> paying bills.  I’ll try it and see how it works.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Les Kriegler >> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>> 
>>> I use the app on my iPhone.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I may contact you again.  I will try using Safari and Google Chrome on the 
>>>> Mac.  Do you use the mobile version or the one on the website?
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:17 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve used their Web-based banking application successfully with both 
>>>>> Chrome and Safari on the Mac with VoiceOver.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:42 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My name is Leslie Kriegler, and if I can help you, I will be glad to do 
>>>>> so. The reason I don’t use the website much is because the app does 
>>>>> everything I need. Our use the website to download transactions from 
>>>>> BankAmerica into money talks, but that’s really the only use I have for 
>>>>> the website at this point. The app performs all the functions that I 
>>>>> need. Good luck.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Leslie
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will try 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Les Kriegler >>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I cannot answer your question about the website, however, are usually 
>>>>>>> mobile banking app and it works really well. Now they have a service 
>>>>>>> where you can actually use your voice to pay bills and find 
>>>>>>> transactions amongst other things. It’s really accessible and I’ve used 
>>>>>>> the app for years. Good luck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>>>> <mailto:choir...@gma

Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I know.

I have it on my phone but was afraid I would make a mistake when I was paying 
bills.  I’ll try it and see how it works.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary Jo,
> 
> I use the app on my iPhone.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I may contact you again.  I will try using Safari and Google Chrome on the 
>> Mac.  Do you use the mobile version or the one on the website?
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:17 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve used their Web-based banking application successfully with both Chrome 
>>> and Safari on the Mac with VoiceOver.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:42 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>  
>>> Hi Mary Jo,
>>> 
>>> My name is Leslie Kriegler, and if I can help you, I will be glad to do so. 
>>> The reason I don’t use the website much is because the app does everything 
>>> I need. Our use the website to download transactions from BankAmerica into 
>>> money talks, but that’s really the only use I have for the website at this 
>>> point. The app performs all the functions that I need. Good luck.
>>> Best,
>>> Leslie
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  
>>>> I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will try 
>>>> it.
>>>>  
>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>  
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Les Kriegler >>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I cannot answer your question about the website, however, are usually 
>>>>> mobile banking app and it works really well. Now they have a service 
>>>>> where you can actually use your voice to pay bills and find transactions 
>>>>> amongst other things. It’s really accessible and I’ve used the app for 
>>>>> years. Good luck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >>>> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Eileen,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I’m not really sure what’s going on but I’m glad my transactions went 
>>>>>> through.  I will call VFO tomorrow to see what they suggest.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hope you are doing well.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Eileen Scrivani >>>>>> <mailto:etscriv...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Mary Jo,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Not totally sure, but with banking web sites, when you change your web 
>>>>>>> browser its as though you have switched to a new computer. When I first 
>>>>>>> used Chrome to log into my banks web site, it recognized that things 
>>>>>>> were not the same and it had me go through a security process where I 
>>>>>>> had to enter a code they texted me. Perhaps the problem was something 
>>>>>>> similar. Although, it sounds like your transactions went through. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: Mary Jo Partyka 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:23 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>

Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Les,

I will try the app.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 17, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary Jo,
> 
> My name is Leslie Kriegler, and if I can help you, I will be glad to do so. 
> The reason I don’t use the website much is because the app does everything I 
> need. Our use the website to download transactions from BankAmerica into 
> money talks, but that’s really the only use I have for the website at this 
> point. The app performs all the functions that I need. Good luck.
> Best,
> Leslie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will try it.
>> 
>> Thank you for your response.
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Les Kriegler >> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I cannot answer your question about the website, however, are usually 
>>> mobile banking app and it works really well. Now they have a service where 
>>> you can actually use your voice to pay bills and find transactions amongst 
>>> other things. It’s really accessible and I’ve used the app for years. Good 
>>> luck.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Eileen,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not really sure what’s going on but I’m glad my transactions went 
>>>> through.  I will call VFO tomorrow to see what they suggest.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope you are doing well.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Eileen Scrivani >>>> <mailto:etscriv...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary Jo,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Not totally sure, but with banking web sites, when you change your web 
>>>>> browser its as though you have switched to a new computer. When I first 
>>>>> used Chrome to log into my banks web site, it recognized that things were 
>>>>> not the same and it had me go through a security process where I had to 
>>>>> enter a code they texted me. Perhaps the problem was something similar. 
>>>>> Although, it sounds like your transactions went through.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Mary Jo Partyka <>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:23 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
>>>>> Subject: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Bank of America changed its site a few months ago.  I first started 
>>>>> paying bills with Google Chrome and used it for other things.  Now Google 
>>>>> Chrome is acting weird and not even showing me the links that I need to 
>>>>> use to get to things.  Last night I made Internet Explorer my default 
>>>>> browser and tried to pay my bills three different times.  I tried it on 
>>>>> another computer today and when I got to Make Payments, it took me out of 
>>>>> the payments section.  When I called the bank,, they said that all of my 
>>>>> payments registered and went through.  However, I should be able to see 
>>>>> whether the payments went through myself so that I could copy down the 
>>>>> confirmation number.  Should I delete Google Chrome as a browser?  I 
>>>>> really don’t want to do that but the app nhas become unresponsive.  When 
>>>>> I talked to the person at the bank today she said my payments had gone 
>>>>> through on Microsoft Edge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any clarificaiton would be appreciated.
>>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I may contact you again.  I will try using Safari and Google Chrome on the Mac. 
 Do you use the mobile version or the one on the website?
Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 17, 2018, at 5:17 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve used their Web-based banking application successfully with both Chrome 
> and Safari on the Mac with VoiceOver.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>  
> Hi Mary Jo,
> 
> My name is Leslie Kriegler, and if I can help you, I will be glad to do so. 
> The reason I don’t use the website much is because the app does everything I 
> need. Our use the website to download transactions from BankAmerica into 
> money talks, but that’s really the only use I have for the website at this 
> point. The app performs all the functions that I need. Good luck.
> Best,
> Leslie
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will try it.
>>  
>> Thank you for your response.
>>  
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Les Kriegler >> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I cannot answer your question about the website, however, are usually 
>>> mobile banking app and it works really well. Now they have a service where 
>>> you can actually use your voice to pay bills and find transactions amongst 
>>> other things. It’s really accessible and I’ve used the app for years. Good 
>>> luck.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Mary Jo Partyka >> <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Eileen,
>>>>  
>>>> I’m not really sure what’s going on but I’m glad my transactions went 
>>>> through.  I will call VFO tomorrow to see what they suggest.
>>>>  
>>>> Hope you are doing well.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Eileen Scrivani >>>> <mailto:etscriv...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Mary Jo,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Not totally sure, but with banking web sites, when you change your web 
>>>>> browser its as though you have switched to a new computer. When I first 
>>>>> used Chrome to log into my banks web site, it recognized that things were 
>>>>> not the same and it had me go through a security process where I had to 
>>>>> enter a code they texted me. Perhaps the problem was something similar. 
>>>>> Although, it sounds like your transactions went through. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Mary Jo Partyka 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:23 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Bank of America changed its site a few months ago.  I first started 
>>>>> paying bills with Google Chrome and used it for other things.  Now Google 
>>>>> Chrome is acting weird and not even showing me the links that I need to 
>>>>> use to get to things.  Last night I made Internet Explorer my default 
>>>>> browser and tried to pay my bills three different times.  I tried it on 
>>>>> another computer today and when I got to Make Payments, it took me out of 
>>>>> the payments section.  When I called the bank,, they said that all of my 
>>>>> payments registered and went through.  However, I should be able to see 
>>>>> whether the payments went through myself so that I could copy down the 
>>>>> confirmation number.  Should I delete Google Chrome as a browser?  I 
>>>>> really don’t want to do that but the app nhas become unresponsive.  When 
>>>>>

Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-17 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I never tried themobile app but I have it on my phone.  Maybe I will try it.

Thank you for your response.

Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 17, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> I cannot answer your question about the website, however, are usually mobile 
> banking app and it works really well. Now they have a service where you can 
> actually use your voice to pay bills and find transactions amongst other 
> things. It’s really accessible and I’ve used the app for years. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Eileen,
>> 
>> I’m not really sure what’s going on but I’m glad my transactions went 
>> through.  I will call VFO tomorrow to see what they suggest.
>> 
>> Hope you are doing well.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Eileen Scrivani >> <mailto:etscriv...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary Jo,
>>>  
>>> Not totally sure, but with banking web sites, when you change your web 
>>> browser its as though you have switched to a new computer. When I first 
>>> used Chrome to log into my banks web site, it recognized that things were 
>>> not the same and it had me go through a security process where I had to 
>>> enter a code they texted me. Perhaps the problem was something similar. 
>>> Although, it sounds like your transactions went through.
>>>  
>>> From: Mary Jo Partyka <>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:23 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
>>> Subject: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Bank of America changed its site a few months ago.  I first started 
>>> paying bills with Google Chrome and used it for other things.  Now Google 
>>> Chrome is acting weird and not even showing me the links that I need to use 
>>> to get to things.  Last night I made Internet Explorer my default browser 
>>> and tried to pay my bills three different times.  I tried it on another 
>>> computer today and when I got to Make Payments, it took me out of the 
>>> payments section.  When I called the bank,, they said that all of my 
>>> payments registered and went through.  However, I should be able to see 
>>> whether the payments went through myself so that I could copy down the 
>>> confirmation number.  Should I delete Google Chrome as a browser?  I really 
>>> don’t want to do that but the app nhas become unresponsive.  When I talked 
>>> to the person at the bank today she said my payments had gone through on 
>>> Microsoft Edge.
>>> 
>>> Any clarificaiton would be appreciated.
>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>>> 
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Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-17 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Eileen,

I’m not really sure what’s going on but I’m glad my transactions went through.  
I will call VFO tomorrow to see what they suggest.

Hope you are doing well.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jun 17, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Mary Jo,
>  
> Not totally sure, but with banking web sites, when you change your web 
> browser its as though you have switched to a new computer. When I first used 
> Chrome to log into my banks web site, it recognized that things were not the 
> same and it had me go through a security process where I had to enter a code 
> they texted me. Perhaps the problem was something similar. Although, it 
> sounds like your transactions went through.
>  
> From: Mary Jo Partyka <>
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America
>  
> Hi,
> 
> The Bank of America changed its site a few months ago.  I first started 
> paying bills with Google Chrome and used it for other things.  Now Google 
> Chrome is acting weird and not even showing me the links that I need to use 
> to get to things.  Last night I made Internet Explorer my default browser and 
> tried to pay my bills three different times.  I tried it on another computer 
> today and when I got to Make Payments, it took me out of the payments 
> section.  When I called the bank,, they said that all of my payments 
> registered and went through.  However, I should be able to see whether the 
> payments went through myself so that I could copy down the confirmation 
> number.  Should I delete Google Chrome as a browser?  I really don’t want to 
> do that but the app nhas become unresponsive.  When I talked to the person at 
> the bank today she said my payments had gone through on Microsoft Edge.
> 
> Any clarificaiton would be appreciated.
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
> 
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Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

2018-06-17 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

The Bank of America changed its site a few months ago.  I first started paying 
bills with Google Chrome and used it for other things.  Now Google Chrome is 
acting weird and not even showing me the links that I need to use to get to 
things.  Last night I made Internet Explorer my default browser and tried to 
pay my bills three different times.  I tried it on another computer today and 
when I got to Make Payments, it took me out of the payments section.  When I 
called the bank,, they said that all of my payments registered and went 
through.  However, I should be able to see whether the payments went through 
myself so that I could copy down the confirmation number.  Should I delete 
Google Chrome as a browser?  I really don’t want to do that but the app nhas 
become unresponsive.  When I talked to the person at the bank today she said my 
payments had gone through on Microsoft Edge.

Any clarificaiton would be appreciated.
Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


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Re: Problems with Proper Files Not Selecting

2015-04-26 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Tim,

I looked in my book and was able to find cursor tracking.  It was on.  So I 
don’t know why I’m having this problem.  I’m going to call the apple 
disabilities number.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like maybe you’ve accidentally left cursor tracking turned off.  
> I’ve had that sort of thing, got hugely frustrated, then slapped myself along 
> side my head for not figuring it out sooner.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 18:24, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Usually when I want to send an attachment, I press the vo return key to 
> select what I want to send and press vo f6 to make sure the correct document 
> has been selected.  I tried selecting something tonight and when I press vo 
> f6 my home folder is selected.  I can’t deselect it or get the correct 
> document to select.
> 
> This may have been brought on by my attempt to add music to my itunes 
> library.  Now everything has in my home folder and even though I know they 
> belong in the music folder, I can’t move them.  First it asked me for a 
> password which I don’t have and then it selected my home folder to move.  I 
> do’t know what I’m doing wrong but things are messed up.
> 
> Is there an easy way to fix this Itunes problem, also?  I added some songs to 
> my library but have no idea what’s there or how to get the rest of my  music 
> up there and in the right place.
> 
> Any help wuld be appreciated, the simpler the explanaiton, the better.
> 
> Thanks you.
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Problems with Proper Files Not Selecting

2015-04-26 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I know I should know this but how do you turn cursor tracking on?


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like maybe you’ve accidentally left cursor tracking turned off.  
> I’ve had that sort of thing, got hugely frustrated, then slapped myself along 
> side my head for not figuring it out sooner.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 18:24, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Usually when I want to send an attachment, I press the vo return key to 
> select what I want to send and press vo f6 to make sure the correct document 
> has been selected.  I tried selecting something tonight and when I press vo 
> f6 my home folder is selected.  I can’t deselect it or get the correct 
> document to select.
> 
> This may have been brought on by my attempt to add music to my itunes 
> library.  Now everything has in my home folder and even though I know they 
> belong in the music folder, I can’t move them.  First it asked me for a 
> password which I don’t have and then it selected my home folder to move.  I 
> do’t know what I’m doing wrong but things are messed up.
> 
> Is there an easy way to fix this Itunes problem, also?  I added some songs to 
> my library but have no idea what’s there or how to get the rest of my  music 
> up there and in the right place.
> 
> Any help wuld be appreciated, the simpler the explanaiton, the better.
> 
> Thanks you.
> 
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com
> 
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Problems with Proper Files Not Selecting

2015-04-25 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

Usually when I want to send an attachment, I press the vo return key to select 
what I want to send and press vo f6 to make sure the correct document has been 
selected.  I tried selecting something tonight and when I press vo f6 my home 
folder is selected.  I can’t deselect it or get the correct document to select.

This may have been brought on by my attempt to add music to my itunes library.  
Now everything has in my home folder and even though I know they belong in the 
music folder, I can’t move them.  First it asked me for a password which I 
don’t have and then it selected my home folder to move.  I do’t know what I’m 
doing wrong but things are messed up.

Is there an easy way to fix this Itunes problem, also?  I added some songs to 
my library but have no idea what’s there or how to get the rest of my  music up 
there and in the right place.

Any help wuld be appreciated, the simpler the explanaiton, the better.

Thanks you.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

2015-04-24 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

The way Talking Checkbook worked was that we had to order a box of check forms 
which contained our account number and other identifying information.  After 
putting one of these fors in the printer, we would go to the talking checkbook 
program and press control n to write a new check.  The fields would be spoken 
aloud and you would fill them in.  After the fields are filled in, you can 
print the check.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question: how does this work? I assume it 
> has to print onto the check somehow? Or is it something else?
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Mary Jo Partyka > <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had a 
>> version of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even support 
>> this piece of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac. If there is 
>> something available to write out  hecks, I would also be interested in 
>> finding out about it.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All;
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC for 
>>> about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering if any 
>>> similar software is available for Macs?
>>> 
>>> Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
>>> * * * * * * * * *
>>> Bill Gallik
>>> wfgal...@icloud.com
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

2015-04-24 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had a version 
of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even support this piece 
of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac. If there is something 
available to write out  hecks, I would also be interested in finding out about 
it.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> All;
> 
> I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC for 
> about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering if any 
> similar software is available for Macs?
> 
> Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
> wfgal...@icloud.com
> 
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Re: Two Questions

2015-03-08 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Phil,

It’s a good suggestion.  I was so frazzled by the time I got these letters 
ffinished and sent out that I just wanted an answer.  Your comment is very well 
taken.

Thank you

Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Mary Joe, you should probably get into the habit of specifically setting out 
> the problem in the subject line instead of just saying things like “two 
> questions”. We all have questions, but if you want people to get interested 
> enough to actually take time to answer your particular question you need to 
> spice up the subject line a bit. You know, something to peak their curiosity. 
> Another reason for relevant subject lines is for the archive. It makes it 
> possible for people to search for answers to previously answered questions on 
> the topic they are having trouble with.
> I know that whenever I see this type of subject line, I just hit the delete 
> key.
> It’s just a suggestion, but you might get more response if you try this 
> approach.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> I had to write a few letters today.  I wrote the first one and wanted to use 
>> some of the same language in  the next two.  I duplicated the first document 
>> and saved it under the same name.  Maybe I should have saved it under the 
>> new name right away but I didn’t rename it until I wrote it and found out 
>> that I could rename with the ellipsis.  I couldn’t read the original file 
>> after I renamed it.
>> 
>> Also, I emailed these letters to three different politicians and they all 
>> came back.  I copied the information verbatim so I know the spelling and 
>> form were correct.  I used the shift hyphen to underline and the shift 2 for 
>> the at sign but think one of these signs might have been incorrectly used.  
>> I was able to email everything by cutting and pasting but I’m trying to find 
>> out what I did wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Two Questions

2015-03-08 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Tim,

I didn’t rename the document in the finder and maybe that was part of the 
problem.  I gave it a different name but I didn’t do it until after i finished 
the new document.

I don’t understand why there was a problem with the email address because I did 
exactly that.
Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Mary Jo,
> 
> How specifically did you rename the file?  Your explanation is a little 
> confusing to me.  If you renamed a file with exactly the same name as the 
> first, the first will be overwritten by the second.  The MacOS will, of 
> course, ask if this is what you want done and will do exactly that if you 
> confirm.  If you renamed the file in the Finder, did you accidentally change 
> the file extension along with the name?  If so, it will not be easily opened 
> as the file extension may not be matching the known file type to the MacOS.  
> Regarding the underscore and the “At” sign, it sounds to me like you did 
> things correctly.  That is, if you’re speaking of using these characters in 
> an eMail address, for example, you would use the shift dash and the shift 
> number 2 to enter underscore and “At” sign respectively, at least on North 
> American keyboards.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 09:11, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Mary Joe, you should probably get into the habit of specifically setting out 
> the problem in the subject line instead of just saying things like “two 
> questions”. We all have questions, but if you want people to get interested 
> enough to actually take time to answer your particular question you need to 
> spice up the subject line a bit. You know, something to peak their curiosity. 
> Another reason for relevant subject lines is for the archive. It makes it 
> possible for people to search for answers to previously answered questions on 
> the topic they are having trouble with.
> I know that whenever I see this type of subject line, I just hit the delete 
> key.
> It’s just a suggestion, but you might get more response if you try this 
> approach.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> I had to write a few letters today.  I wrote the first one and wanted to use 
>> some of the same language in  the next two.  I duplicated the first document 
>> and saved it under the same name.  Maybe I should have saved it under the 
>> new name right away but I didn’t rename it until I wrote it and found out 
>> that I could rename with the ellipsis.  I couldn’t read the original file 
>> after I renamed it.
>> 
>> Also, I emailed these letters to three different politicians and they all 
>> came back.  I copied the information verbatim so I know the spelling and 
>> form were correct.  I used the shift hyphen to underline and the shift 2 for 
>> the at sign but think one of these signs might have been incorrectly used.  
>> I was able to email everything by cutting and pasting but I’m trying to find 
>> out what I did wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Two Questions

2015-03-07 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I had to write a few letters today.  I wrote the first one and wanted to use 
some of the same language in  the next two.  I duplicated the first document 
and saved it under the same name.  Maybe I should have saved it under the new 
name right away but I didn’t rename it until I wrote it and found out that I 
could rename with the ellipsis.  I couldn’t read the original file after I 
renamed it.

Also, I emailed these letters to three different politicians and they all came 
back.  I copied the information verbatim so I know the spelling and form were 
correct.  I used the shift hyphen to underline and the shift 2 for the at sign 
but think one of these signs might have been incorrectly used.  I was able to 
email everything by cutting and pasting but I’m trying to find out what I did 
wrong.

 
Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


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Re: Redeming Amazon Gift Cards

2015-01-10 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I tried ordering a few products off the Amazon website and didn’t feel very 
comfortable.  The accessible page they had before was much better.


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Well that is a matter of opinion, smiles.
> Amazon claims as much, but there are things, at least for me that work better 
> on the real site, some on the m. one etc.
> the  older edition of the accessible page was less problematical, but again 
> this is only my experience.
> Karen
> 
> 
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015, Faisal ali wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried www.amazon.com/access?
>> It’s the accessible version.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: January-10-15 10:04 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Redeming Amazon Gift Cards
>> 
>> No luck, when you go to log in it takes you bk to the main site.
>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> have you visited here?
>>> m.amazon.com
>>> Granted I do this with a low graphics browser, but I have never found that 
>>> requirement on this page.
>>> hope thishelps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi:
>>>> It appears Amazon makes you enter in a Captcha code before redeeming 
>>>> Amazon gift cards. Therer isn’t an accessible alternative.
>>>> 
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Re: Mysterious

2015-01-07 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank u

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For Contacts, stop Interacting with the Scroll area where you were editing 
> the contact info, then navigate right to find the “Done” button.  
> Alternatively, just close the Contacts window or app and it will save 
> automatically.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 19:06, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a few quesitons.
>> 
>> My computer seems to be invaded by strange goings-on.  I had difficulty 
>> putting in a trip today on Text Edit and had to reorient my windows twice 
>> with command shift w so that problem seemed to fix itself.  But now on 
>> everymail message I read I hear something about a scroll which also says 
>> taht mail has new windows.  I have tolisten to that and then interact to 
>> read the message.
>> 
>> The other thing is that I got my contacts straightened out but I still have 
>> one question.  After I ed a contact how do you close it?  There is no done 
>> button the way there is on an iPhone?
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Disregard My Question about the Mail App

2015-01-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I think that between putting in my contacts, using Text Edit and reading Mail, 
the problem came upw here I was getting the message mail is in new window.  I 
used text edit to transmit my email into a document and the mail problem seems 
to have corrected itself.  My question about being able to close a contact is 
still of concern to me.

Thank you.

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Mysterious

2015-01-06 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I have a few quesitons.

My computer seems to be invaded by strange goings-on.  I had difficulty putting 
in a trip today on Text Edit and had to reorient my windows twice with command 
shift w so that problem seemed to fix itself.  But now on everymail message I 
read I hear something about a scroll which also says taht mail has new windows. 
 I have tolisten to that and then interact to read the message.

The other thing is that I got my contacts straightened out but I still have one 
question.  After I ed a contact how do you close it?  There is no done button 
the way there is on an iPhone?


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


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Re: Putting email lists in contacts

2015-01-04 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

This duplication is confusing.  I would have been better off not trying to put 
in my contacts o all three devices at once.

I worked on some of this yesterday and hope to get a handle on it.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jan 4, 2015, at 12:59 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> I find groups to be rather confusing - not the concept but the practical 
> setup - but I admit I haven't yet concentrated on this a lot. As for 
> duplications, I've had this problem almost from the beginning of having an 
> iOS device along with my Mac. At one point I was able to straighten it out 
> but I have more than one device now and the problem came back. So I finally 
> decided just to make sure I had a backup of all contacts that I could access 
> without the contacts app and then I just plain deleted all my contacts from 
> all devices and computers and stopped that service with iCloud. Now I'm 
> re-entering everything on my computer and it's a pain but it's going to be 
> worth it because of all the duplicates and old info and partial info I'm 
> getting rid of. When this is done i will need to learn to monitor what is 
> happening and catch it before it gets to this point again.
> 
> What I decided to do with email lists that I am subscribed to is put a name 
> for the list as the first name and "email list" without the quotes as the 
> last name. Then all my email lists should end up together under "e".
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Mary Jo Partyka  <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Cheryl,
> 
> It’s interesting that you posted aobut having problems with Contacts since I 
> am also having problems.  I was able to put a few groups together on the Mac 
> but because I haven’t done much with it in the past few months, I feel like 
> I’m back to square one now.  I was able to send a required message to one of 
> my groups but had some difficulty putting new people in that group and now I 
> can’t even find the group.  Is there an easy way to go between group lists 
> and contact information etc?  I have been pressing vo command t and going 
> into each of the tables and that seems to work some of the time.  But it 
> feels like the most unorganized ap on the computer.  I also have duplications.
> 
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
> 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak > <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I finally got fed up with all the chaos with contacts on phone, iPad and 
>> computer, with lots of duplicates and outdated information still being mixed 
>> with the new. I felt this was way beyond the help of just merging contacts 
>> or deleting and adding indivicual ones as I've been trying to ignore this 
>> problem for quite a while. After careful backing up of all my contact 
>> information, I deleted contacts for all accounts on all devices and deleted 
>> all contacts in the application on my computer. So now I'm choosing the 
>> contacts I really want to keep and am adding all the information back on my 
>> computer first. Then I'll turn contacts back on in all accounts on devices.
>> 
>> The one thing I am not sure of is what to do about email lists when putting 
>> the information in Contacts on my computer. There are fields for first and 
>> last name and company and a checkbox for company but an email list doesn't 
>> quite fit either of these choices. I hesitate to put macvisionaries, for 
>> example, in as a first or last name or a company but don't know if I should 
>> just put the email address in without a name iname; I'm pretty sure this 
>> will disorganize things. Is there an accepted protocol I should follow for 
>> this?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help with this.
>>  
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>

Re: Putting email lists in contacts

2015-01-04 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thank you.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:10 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I went into contacts to see if anything has changed. For me I do not think it 
> has.
> On opening Contacts I was able to  navigate  left to  the Group list table. I 
>  could interact with this table to see all my Groups as well as the one which 
> are there by default like All my contacts and On my Mac. . For a new group I 
> type command shift N. For a new contact it is command N. By navigating 
> rightwards away from the contacts group table I can get to the contacts table 
> which corresponds to the group I have highlighted in the left table. I find 
> that normal copy and paste and edit commands work here.
> 
> The only real difference I have noticed with Yosemite contacts isn that when 
> I am editing or creating   a contact  now there are now update create or 
> cancel groups rather than buttons. This means that you have to interact with 
> these groups before you can see the create update or cancel buttons. This is 
> clunky and I  wonder why it is necessary but not a show stopper.
> 
> 
> David  Griffith
> 
> 
> On 4 Jan 2015, at 05:59, Cheryl Homiak  <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I find groups to be rather confusing - not the concept but the practical 
>> setup - but I admit I haven't yet concentrated on this a lot. As for 
>> duplications, I've had this problem almost from the beginning of having an 
>> iOS device along with my Mac. At one point I was able to straighten it out 
>> but I have more than one device now and the problem came back. So I finally 
>> decided just to make sure I had a backup of all contacts that I could access 
>> without the contacts app and then I just plain deleted all my contacts from 
>> all devices and computers and stopped that service with iCloud. Now I'm 
>> re-entering everything on my computer and it's a pain but it's going to be 
>> worth it because of all the duplicates and old info and partial info I'm 
>> getting rid of. When this is done i will need to learn to monitor what is 
>> happening and catch it before it gets to this point again.
>> 
>> What I decided to do with email lists that I am subscribed to is put a name 
>> for the list as the first name and "email list" without the quotes as the 
>> last name. Then all my email lists should end up together under "e".
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Mary Jo Partyka > <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Cheryl,
>> 
>> It’s interesting that you posted aobut having problems with Contacts since I 
>> am also having problems.  I was able to put a few groups together on the Mac 
>> but because I haven’t done much with it in the past few months, I feel like 
>> I’m back to square one now.  I was able to send a required message to one of 
>> my groups but had some difficulty putting new people in that group and now I 
>> can’t even find the group.  Is there an easy way to go between group lists 
>> and contact information etc?  I have been pressing vo command t and going 
>> into each of the tables and that seems to work some of the time.  But it 
>> feels like the most unorganized ap on the computer.  I also have 
>> duplications.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak >> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally got fed up with all the chaos with contacts on phone, iPad and 
>>> computer, with lots of duplicates and outdated information still being 
>>> mixed with the new. I felt this was way beyond the help of just merging 
>>> contacts or deleting and adding indivicual ones as I've been trying to 
>>> ignore this problem for quite a while. After careful backing up of all my 
>>> contact information, I deleted contacts for all accounts on all devices and 
&

Re: Putting email lists in contacts

2015-01-04 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, 

Thanks for your help.  I thought I had this mastered but I guess I haven’t.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jan 4, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> In Contacts, there's a list of all groups on the left. Selecting one (you 
> don't need to interact with the table, just up/down arrow on it) will cause 
> the list of contacts being displayed to be limited to just that group, and 
> the search box to only search that group. To add a contact, just find it, 
> copy it with cmd-c, find the group you want it in, and paste with cmd-v. To 
> remove a contact, find it and hit delete. A popup will appear, asking if you 
> want to remove the contact form its current group, or erase it entirely.
>> On Jan 4, 2015, at 12:59 AM, Cheryl Homiak > <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I find groups to be rather confusing - not the concept but the practical 
>> setup - but I admit I haven't yet concentrated on this a lot. As for 
>> duplications, I've had this problem almost from the beginning of having an 
>> iOS device along with my Mac. At one point I was able to straighten it out 
>> but I have more than one device now and the problem came back. So I finally 
>> decided just to make sure I had a backup of all contacts that I could access 
>> without the contacts app and then I just plain deleted all my contacts from 
>> all devices and computers and stopped that service with iCloud. Now I'm 
>> re-entering everything on my computer and it's a pain but it's going to be 
>> worth it because of all the duplicates and old info and partial info I'm 
>> getting rid of. When this is done i will need to learn to monitor what is 
>> happening and catch it before it gets to this point again.
>> 
>> What I decided to do with email lists that I am subscribed to is put a name 
>> for the list as the first name and "email list" without the quotes as the 
>> last name. Then all my email lists should end up together under "e".
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Mary Jo Partyka > <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Cheryl,
>> 
>> It’s interesting that you posted aobut having problems with Contacts since I 
>> am also having problems.  I was able to put a few groups together on the Mac 
>> but because I haven’t done much with it in the past few months, I feel like 
>> I’m back to square one now.  I was able to send a required message to one of 
>> my groups but had some difficulty putting new people in that group and now I 
>> can’t even find the group.  Is there an easy way to go between group lists 
>> and contact information etc?  I have been pressing vo command t and going 
>> into each of the tables and that seems to work some of the time.  But it 
>> feels like the most unorganized ap on the computer.  I also have 
>> duplications.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak >> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally got fed up with all the chaos with contacts on phone, iPad and 
>>> computer, with lots of duplicates and outdated information still being 
>>> mixed with the new. I felt this was way beyond the help of just merging 
>>> contacts or deleting and adding indivicual ones as I've been trying to 
>>> ignore this problem for quite a while. After careful backing up of all my 
>>> contact information, I deleted contacts for all accounts on all devices and 
>>> deleted all contacts in the application on my computer. So now I'm choosing 
>>> the contacts I really want to keep and am adding all the information back 
>>> on my computer first. Then I'll turn contacts back on in all accounts on 
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> The one thing I am not sure of is what to do about email lists when putting 
>>> the information in Contacts on my

Re: Putting email lists in contacts

2015-01-03 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Cheryl,

It’s interesting that you posted aobut having problems with Contacts since I am 
also having problems.  I was able to put a few groups together on the Mac but 
because I haven’t done much with it in the past few months, I feel like I’m 
back to square one now.  I was able to send a required message to one of my 
groups but had some difficulty putting new people in that group and now I can’t 
even find the group.  Is there an easy way to go between group lists and 
contact information etc?  I have been pressing vo command t and going into each 
of the tables and that seems to work some of the time.  But it feels like the 
most unorganized ap on the computer.  I also have duplications.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> I finally got fed up with all the chaos with contacts on phone, iPad and 
> computer, with lots of duplicates and outdated information still being mixed 
> with the new. I felt this was way beyond the help of just merging contacts or 
> deleting and adding indivicual ones as I've been trying to ignore this 
> problem for quite a while. After careful backing up of all my contact 
> information, I deleted contacts for all accounts on all devices and deleted 
> all contacts in the application on my computer. So now I'm choosing the 
> contacts I really want to keep and am adding all the information back on my 
> computer first. Then I'll turn contacts back on in all accounts on devices.
> 
> The one thing I am not sure of is what to do about email lists when putting 
> the information in Contacts on my computer. There are fields for first and 
> last name and company and a checkbox for company but an email list doesn't 
> quite fit either of these choices. I hesitate to put macvisionaries, for 
> example, in as a first or last name or a company but don't know if I should 
> just put the email address in without a name iname; I'm pretty sure this will 
> disorganize things. Is there an accepted protocol I should follow for this?
> 
> Thanks for any help with this.
>  
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
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Re: Problem with Text Edit

2014-12-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

It stayed in the file I was working on and we’ll see what happens when I go to 
a new one.  It was getting stressful going in and out of the file every time I 
wrote something.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there again 
> In my case, I was having focus until I got to page 2. Somebody on this list 
> told me about command shift w for TextEdit. That tells TextEdit to wrap to 
> window. I think it stays put once you do the command because after I do it, I 
> haven't had to do it again. I am not sure if that is file by file, or if it 
> is a preference that stays there for all files once you have done it. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll try it.  What happens is that text edit stops telling me what I’m 
>> typing and loses its focus.
>> 
>> Thank youf ro the suggestions.
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if this is the same thing, but I had trouble with TextEdit 
>>> yesterday; pressing command shift w made the difference. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I normally do my revisions in text edit.  If I want to delete or change 
>>>> the spelling of a word, Text Edit loses focus and doesn’t let me know what 
>>>> letters were deleted until I come back in.  I don’t remember having this 
>>>> problem before and I upgraded to IOS 8 in September?  I thought it was the 
>>>> computer at first but when I backspaced to change something when writing 
>>>> this message, I was able to tell what was being erased at once.  Any 
>>>> suggestions?  It seems like Text Edit is losing focus.  Any help would be 
>>>> appreciated.  
>>>> Mary Jo Partyka
>>>> choir...@gmail.com
>>>> 
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Text Edit

2014-12-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Eugenia,

Command shift w worked and I am relieved.  I edit a publication for the 
National Federation of the Blind and I was afraid I was going to have some big 
problems if I couldn’t get Text Edit tow ork correctly.

Thank you.


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Re: Problem with Text Edit

2014-12-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I’ll try it.  What happens is that text edit stops telling me what I’m typing 
and loses its focus.

Thank youf ro the suggestions.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure if this is the same thing, but I had trouble with TextEdit 
> yesterday; pressing command shift w made the difference. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Mary Jo Partyka  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I normally do my revisions in text edit.  If I want to delete or change the 
>> spelling of a word, Text Edit loses focus and doesn’t let me know what 
>> letters were deleted until I come back in.  I don’t remember having this 
>> problem before and I upgraded to IOS 8 in September?  I thought it was the 
>> computer at first but when I backspaced to change something when writing 
>> this message, I was able to tell what was being erased at once.  Any 
>> suggestions?  It seems like Text Edit is losing focus.  Any help would be 
>> appreciated.  
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Problem with paying paypal credit

2014-12-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I hope not either.  I didn’t accept the cruise that they offered me on the 3833 
number.


Mary Jo Partyka
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> On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:03 PM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> there should be a number on pay pal's website. and i hope you didn't respond 
> to one of those fishing emails. good luck, max 
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Mary Jo Partyka wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ray,
>> 
>> I am also having trouble with paypal and they keep telling me there is a 
>> problem with my account and I already changed my password in response to 
>> their email once.  When I called the number you gave Cheryl, I was asked to 
>> take a survey about vacations even though I declined the cruise.  After I 
>> did that, i got a busy signal and then the phone disconnected.  I tried the 
>> number again to make sure I dialed right and got the same recording about 
>> the cruise.  I called toll-free direct but they had no other numbers for 
>> Paypal.  Any help you can give me would be appreciated. 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Ray Foret Jr >> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know what you mean.  I saw that myself.  I usually pay my bill via the 
>>> telephone system.  You might want to call:
>>> 
>>> 866-528-3833
>>> and give them an ear full while you're paying your bill.
>>> 
>>> Their customer service folks seem pretty nice and I am very interested to 
>>> know what they tell you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak >>> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Some of you may know that Bill Me later is now Paypal Credit. The Bill Me 
>>>> Later site worked fine but shortly after the switch of course that site 
>>>> was closed. Last month I did manage to pay my bill but this month I can't 
>>>> click my payment method no matter what I do on the Mac. I very definitely 
>>>> clicked the "feedback" button and told them to put back the radio buttons 
>>>> as standard instead of these "clickable" things - at least that's how they 
>>>> look for voiceover. They still have radio buttons for other choices but 
>>>> not for the payment method. I have changed my mouse pointer settings, 
>>>> tried different voiceover options from vo utility for the web; this is 
>>>> driving me nuts! Any suggestions? I can't get the mouse to line up with 
>>>> it; I can't get keyboard focus on it; I can get vo focus and I can flick 
>>>> to it on the trackpad but nothing with mouse either via cmd-vo-f5 and 
>>>> vo-f5 or by the actual Apple mouse which admittedly I'm not very good 
>>>> with. Tabbing passes it up. Absolutely nothing allows me to click my 
>>>> payment option. When I click continue I am told that I don't have enough 
>>>> balance in my paypal account (which of course I don't!) and am asked to 
>>>> choose a payment option - as if that isn't what I've been trying to do! I 
>>>> rarely get this exasperated trying to do something on my computer but this 
>>>> is ridiculous!
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Cheryl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Problem with paying paypal credit

2014-12-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
I’ll try it.

Thank you.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Let me double check right now.
> 
> Okay.
> 
> call:
> 866-528-3733
> 
> Sorry about the last one.
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Mary Jo Partyka > <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Ray,
>> 
>> I am also having trouble with paypal and they keep telling me there is a 
>> problem with my account and I already changed my password in response to 
>> their email once.  When I called the number you gave Cheryl, I was asked to 
>> take a survey about vacations even though I declined the cruise.  After I 
>> did that, i got a busy signal and then the phone disconnected.  I tried the 
>> number again to make sure I dialed right and got the same recording about 
>> the cruise.  I called toll-free direct but they had no other numbers for 
>> Paypal.  Any help you can give me would be appreciated. 
>> 
>> Mary Jo Partyka
>> choir...@gmail.com <mailto:choir...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Ray Foret Jr >> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know what you mean.  I saw that myself.  I usually pay my bill via the 
>>> telephone system.  You might want to call:
>>> 
>>> 866-528-3833
>>> and give them an ear full while you're paying your bill.
>>> 
>>> Their customer service folks seem pretty nice and I am very interested to 
>>> know what they tell you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak >>> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Some of you may know that Bill Me later is now Paypal Credit. The Bill Me 
>>>> Later site worked fine but shortly after the switch of course that site 
>>>> was closed. Last month I did manage to pay my bill but this month I can't 
>>>> click my payment method no matter what I do on the Mac. I very definitely 
>>>> clicked the "feedback" button and told them to put back the radio buttons 
>>>> as standard instead of these "clickable" things - at least that's how they 
>>>> look for voiceover. They still have radio buttons for other choices but 
>>>> not for the payment method. I have changed my mouse pointer settings, 
>>>> tried different voiceover options from vo utility for the web; this is 
>>>> driving me nuts! Any suggestions? I can't get the mouse to line up with 
>>>> it; I can't get keyboard focus on it; I can get vo focus and I can flick 
>>>> to it on the trackpad but nothing with mouse either via cmd-vo-f5 and 
>>>> vo-f5 or by the actual Apple mouse which admittedly I'm not very good 
>>>> with. Tabbing passes it up. Absolutely nothing allows me to click my 
>>>> payment option. When I click continue I am told that I don't have enough 
>>>> balance in my paypal account (which of course I don't!) and am asked to 
>>>> choose a payment option - as if that isn't what I've been trying to do! I 
>>>> rarely get this exasperated trying to do something on my computer but this 
>>>> is ridiculous!
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Cheryl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Problem with Text Edit

2014-12-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I normally do my revisions in text edit.  If I want to delete or change the 
spelling of a word, Text Edit loses focus and doesn’t let me know what letters 
were deleted until I come back in.  I don’t remember having this problem before 
and I upgraded to IOS 8 in September?  I thought it was the computer at first 
but when I backspaced to change something when writing this message, I was able 
to tell what was being erased at once.  Any suggestions?  It seems like Text 
Edit is losing focus.  Any help would be appreciated.  
Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


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Re: Problem with paying paypal credit

2014-12-18 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi, Ray,

I am also having trouble with paypal and they keep telling me there is a 
problem with my account and I already changed my password in response to their 
email once.  When I called the number you gave Cheryl, I was asked to take a 
survey about vacations even though I declined the cruise.  After I did that, i 
got a busy signal and then the phone disconnected.  I tried the number again to 
make sure I dialed right and got the same recording about the cruise.  I called 
toll-free direct but they had no other numbers for Paypal.  Any help you can 
give me would be appreciated. 

Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> I know what you mean.  I saw that myself.  I usually pay my bill via the 
> telephone system.  You might want to call:
> 
> 866-528-3833
> and give them an ear full while you're paying your bill.
> 
> Their customer service folks seem pretty nice and I am very interested to 
> know what they tell you.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak > <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Some of you may know that Bill Me later is now Paypal Credit. The Bill Me 
>> Later site worked fine but shortly after the switch of course that site was 
>> closed. Last month I did manage to pay my bill but this month I can't click 
>> my payment method no matter what I do on the Mac. I very definitely clicked 
>> the "feedback" button and told them to put back the radio buttons as 
>> standard instead of these "clickable" things - at least that's how they look 
>> for voiceover. They still have radio buttons for other choices but not for 
>> the payment method. I have changed my mouse pointer settings, tried 
>> different voiceover options from vo utility for the web; this is driving me 
>> nuts! Any suggestions? I can't get the mouse to line up with it; I can't get 
>> keyboard focus on it; I can get vo focus and I can flick to it on the 
>> trackpad but nothing with mouse either via cmd-vo-f5 and vo-f5 or by the 
>> actual Apple mouse which admittedly I'm not very good with. Tabbing passes 
>> it up. Absolutely nothing allows me to click my payment option. When I click 
>> continue I am told that I don't have enough balance in my paypal account 
>> (which of course I don't!) and am asked to choose a payment option - as if 
>> that isn't what I've been trying to do! I rarely get this exasperated trying 
>> to do something on my computer but this is ridiculous!
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> 
>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>> 
>> 
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Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Hi,

I also liked the Sharp Talking Time and still have one.  But I understand why 
companies discontinue selling these products because the market is so limited.  
That's why the Optacons are no longer available unless you are lucky enough to 
have one, like I am.  Making them was probably expensive and not many people 
learned how to use them.  But we still need these products.

Mary Jo
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:53 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Ah yes, I definitely remember what Sharp did.
> 
> The Talking Time was the first Sharp talking clock. It was a marvel of 
> accessibility for one of the first talking clocks. Within a few years, a very 
> large number of blind people wanted them. By that time, Sharp was no longer 
> selling them. In fact, the NFB convinced Sharp to do one more manufacturing 
> run which the NFB then sold for the next couple years.
> 
> When sharp was asked why they would discontinue such a popular clock, the 
> answer was, the clock was Sharp's least popular device. It only sold a few 
> hundred thousand when it was supposed to sell a few million. The same was 
> true for the excellent Sharp EL640 talking calculator.
> 
> Panasonic created a wonderful talking clock radio shortly after the excellent 
> Sharp products. Again, Panasonic did not receive the general market sales 
> they predicted for the product, so they discontinued it. It was mainly only 
> blind people who were purchasing it.
> 
> A similar thing happened in the mid 90's with Zenith and a talking 
> programmable VCR.
> 
> I do have many more examples, including talking pagers, talking juicers, a 
> general market talking microwave, a couple general market talking digital 
> radios, and so forth. In all cases, when only blind people purchase the 
> products, and the products are priced for general market, companies lose lots 
> of money and pull the devices.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 12:09, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> In the answer to a couple of your questions, ask for a company making their 
>> products usable by the disabled, do you or do you not remember what sharp 
>> did for us with talking clocks and calculators? Do you also know that 
>> Panasonic makes  optional talking caller ID in its cordless phones? For 
>> years swans foods offered all of their catalogs in braille along with their 
>> cooking  directions as one could also read on their boxes. It is not 
>> unreasonable or pompous to expect to be treated the same as anyone else in 
>> the same store paying the same money for the same product. If you consider 
>> that pompous, you must be living with your parents who do everything for 
>> you. I do not. I've lived away from my family since 1974, then married, 
>> raise two children and have four grandchildren. I've been through the times 
>> where we didn't as much as have digital readings on elevators or braille on 
>> hotel room doors. I travel anywhere I want to go, do anything I want to do. 
>> I do not expect special treatment. I ask for what I need.
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 5:10 PM, The Believer  wrote:
>> 
>> That is a first. The general public now dictates what the disabled public 
>> gets? Apple develops products for the mainstream market...and they also have 
>> enabled these same products to be usable by the disabled. Can amy other 
>> comppany claim that?
>> 
>> We all can walk into any Apple store along with the sighted general public 
>> and buy the same products they do and use the same products alongside them.
>> 
>> And if we have an issue with our product, we can walk into any Apple store 
>> or cal their toll free number and get the same assistance.
>> 
>> Why should we expect any different treatment? Because we are blind? That, 
>> IMO, is shortsightedness and perhaps even pompous. It certainly will not get 
>> one very far.
>> 
>> No one is glossing over anything. On the other hand, some are over the top 
>> downright unreasonable.
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 10/19/2014 2:02 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm normally not one to complain for the sake of complaining. I am a 
>>> realist. I know that we as a market are a minority within Apple's customer 
>>> base. I will give them credit where it's due. They did take the lead in 
>>> accessibility. However, mainstream society has caught on to the fact that 
>>> Apple products are accessible to blind people. That in itself is a double 
>>> edge sword. None of us want to be put into a corner and told what is good 
>>> for us by our cited peers.  we want general society to except what we can  
>>> use on its own merit showing them we can use products that they can use. 
>>> there are still those who think that Apple products are simply all we can 
>>> use. It's an all or nothing statement within the cited community as much a