Make the Most of Braille on iOS Devices with the Braillists Foundation, Tomorrow at 7:30 PM UK Time

[Matthew Horspool]

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Did you know you can use your iPhone from your pocket in conjunction with your 
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If you've always wanted answers to these questions and more, the Braillists 
Foundation can help! Tomorrow (2 February), join us on Zoom at 7:30 PM in the 
UK for a session entitled "Using Braille on iOS". Led by Matthew Horspool, an 
experienced iOS user and braille expert, we'll find out how to pair a braille 
display with an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch and how to get the most out of using 
braille with these devices. We will also introduce you to Braille Screen Input.
The session is completely free of charge, will last an hour (ending at 8:30 PM 
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RE: How to set up Apple TV and some brief information about it

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi,
Dictation works about as well on the Apple TV as it does anywhere else in the 
Apple ecosystem.
As for your other questions, I would suggest doing a Google search as there is 
plenty of information already out there which we would just be regurgitating. 
There are also some useful podcasts at: http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com
Matthew

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Subject: How to set up Apple TV and some brief information about it

Hi Liz,
I’m thinking of purchasing and Apple TV and I would like some information about 
it.For example, how are you turn on voiceover so I can set it up. And some 
brief information of what I can do with it besides the obvious. Urgent, does 
the dictation work properly?
Thanks

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RE: Changing VoiceOver Voice

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi Angus,
If the default says Karen but you are hearing Daniel, you have somehow added 
Daniel to your rotor and switched to that. I note you struggle with the rotor, 
but if you can struggle with it just enough to switch away from Daniel, that 
would be useful.
To delete Daniel from the rotor once you've done that, go to 
Settings/General/Accessibility/Voiceover/Speech. Somewhere on that screen 
should be a heading entitled "Rotor Languages", and underneath that, a button 
that says "English UK Daniel". Swipe down on that button to "Delete" and double 
tap.
This may work if Daniel is currently selected in the rotor, or it may not.
Matthew


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: 01 December 2018 02:43
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Subject: Re: Changing VoiceOver Voice

Thank you. How does someone delete a voice? So the default takes over. The 
Voice says Karen and I hear Daniel.

Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
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RE: Changing VoiceOver Voice

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi,

No, it's not possible to add more than one voice for a given language/dialect. 
For instance, you cannot have both Samantha and Tom in the rotor as they are 
both US voices, but you could have Samantha and Daniel as one is US and the 
other is UK.

The exception to this is that your default Voiceover voice can be in any 
language/dialect and does not take over the rotor setting for that 
language/dialect. So, for instance, if my default Voiceover voice is Daniel, I 
could also have Kate in my rotor under English UK even though Daniel is also a 
UK voice.

Matthew



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Sent: 29 November 2018 22:53
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing VoiceOver Voice



I had only noticed these extra voices this week, gone now. But now, is it 
possible to add another voice to the same language? It looks like I cannot add 
another English US to which I could attach a different voice.



>From E.T.'s Keyboard...

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On 11/29/2018 12:21 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi,

>

> To add to E.T.'s note, if Daniel is one of the choices in the rotor,

> go into Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Speech and remove

> it from the rotor so that it does not get accessed.

>

> Later...

>

> Tim Kilburn

> Apple Teacher

> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

> Fort McMurray, AB Canada

>

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 13:00, Angus MacKinnon  > wrote:

>

> My iPhone XR

>

>   i running IOS 12.1. In Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver the

> Voice says my default (Karen(, however, I hear Daniel. How do I get

> rid of Daniel and go back to my default of Karen? Thank you. I have

> trouble using the Rotar.

>

> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student

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RE: What Iphone to chooce?

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi Simon,

That's an excellent point about no 3D Touch on the XR – I'd  forgotten about 
that! I should stress that this is just to do with pressing down on the screen, 
though – the rest of the haptic stuff is there.

To be honest, the lack of a home button is probably an advantage rather than a 
disadvantage at this point. I can't see Apple ever reintroducing it, so if 
you're going to be re-learning iOS anyway, you might as well start as you mean 
to go on.

However, note that the iPhone XR feels, at least to me, significantly larger 
than the iPhone 8. This is balanced out by the fact that it has a better 
battery. I'm afraid I can hardly get a whole day out of my iPhone 8.

Matthew



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On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: 29 November 2018 07:47
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What Iphone to chooce?



Anders,



Is screen / picture quality an issue for you?



If not then take the iPhone XR, they have shown to have better battery life 
than all other iPhones currently that includes the 8's and the newer XS range.



The processor is better and the screen is slightly larger,  If screen is 
something you want then the 8 and 8Plus have better screen resolution Otherwise 
there isn't a lot and either way your going to get a great device, The 8 will 
give you 3d touch which the xr wont. The 8 has a home button the xr doesn't.



The xr should have esim abilitys next year.



So in other words, it’s a case of what do you need and what do you want?



Either way they are good devices the xr will just last slightly longer.





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Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2018 7:46 AM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: What Iphone to chooce?



The X R, without a case, for me, feels rather slippery. With a case, though, it 
feels great and solid, and the battery life is just amazing, even when using it 
with Wifi, Bluetooth, location services, and background app refresh on. If you 
don't need all that, one user has said that he gets a day and a half of Wifi. 
With it, I get a full day of life.



Sent from my iPhone



> On Nov 28, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Anders Holmberg 
> mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

>

> Hi!

> Android accessity begins to piss me off so i am deciding to go on a plan with 
> a carrier here in Sweden.

> BUt since there are so many models out there i am not sure what to chooce 
> from.

> I don’t want the x or sx or xs max phones.

> I don’t know why but they feel a bit to much for me.

> But since i can get the Iphone 8 and the XR i am thinking to get one of these.

> I would like to have  good battery length which seems to be the case for the 
> XR which has a lcd display.

> But what about the feel of it and how is the Iphone 8 when it comes to 
> battery and performance.Thanks in advance.

> /A

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RE: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi Anders,
The starter kit, with room stat and bridge, costs about £200. Radiator valves 
cost about £60 each but you don't need those straight away.
Unfortunately I don't know about heat pump compatibility especially not outside 
the UK. However, as far as the electronics are concerned it can function in the 
same way as an old fashioned dial stat – just a glorified on/off switch really. 
If your heat pump can take a dial stat it can probably take Tado.
Matthew

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: 27 November 2018 22:38
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

Hi!
What did you pay for that one?
I don’t think this can be connected right away to my Heat pump.
/A


27 nov. 2018 kl. 11:28 skrev Matthew Horspool 
mailto:mhorsp...@live.co.uk>>:

Hi,
For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart radiator 
valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app and reduces 
the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and further away 
from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually as you return, 
so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the heating will 
switch on long before you arrive home.
Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
the house.
The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, instead 
of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be warm by 
7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 6:00 AM, but 
on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not sure 
how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I couldn't 
recommend it highly enough.
Matthew

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of these 
interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to have a 
thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the Ecobee3.
Donna




On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home.  
I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.

The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:

temperature,
humidity,
motion,
sound and,
light.

Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
monitor through the iHome Control app.

More information at:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.ca%2Fen-ca%2Fproduct%2Fihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc%2F10488097.aspx&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cadd80eb332e247df318a08d654b8ee4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636789550576837949&sdata=IS2JNdQBIAOu21RL0Rbvg6Jd1q21%2Fkt5tf2QwE2fUu8%3D&reserved=0>

I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all of 
them accessible.

Jeff




On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they all 
controllable by Siri?

Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
Thanks,
Donna





On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also have 
several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I have an 
August Smart Lock.

I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.

Tia,
Jeff




On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  Wondering 
what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit that you 
particularly like?
TIA,
Donna

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RE: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi John,
You're right, a lot of those features are becoming more common now, but I 
haven't found another system that has all of them all in one place, especially 
the smart TRVs.
The real gem is that the TRVs can talk to each other and the main thermostat. 
So say your heating is set to 20°C and every room in your house is at 20°C or 
above, except your living room which is at 18°C. The TRV in the living room 
will detect that the living room is too cold and send a command to override the 
main thermostat and switch it on so that the living room can get some heat. At 
the same time, it will also send a command to all the other TRVs to close up, 
so only the living room radiator actually gets warm. Works like a charm and 
makes my house feel so much more comfortable! Once the living room is up to 
temperature it will cancel the thermostat override, so the heating will switch 
off again.
As for saving more by using manual mode, I'm of the opinion that that's a false 
economy in so many ways, but this is the good thing about having personal 
choice.
Matthew

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of John JD Denning
Sent: 27 November 2018 12:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

I believe those features are pretty common now. The Nast has always done all of 
that. No I never use the automatic modes. I prefer controlling that as I need 
it. I get more savings that way. I guess I’m just a cheapskate, and a control 
freak. 😸
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2018, at 05:28, Matthew Horspool 
mailto:mhorsp...@live.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi,
For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart radiator 
valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app and reduces 
the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and further away 
from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually as you return, 
so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the heating will 
switch on long before you arrive home.
Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
the house.
The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, instead 
of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be warm by 
7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 6:00 AM, but 
on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not sure 
how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I couldn't 
recommend it highly enough.
Matthew

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of these 
interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to have a 
thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the Ecobee3.
Donna




On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home.  
I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.

The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:

temperature,
humidity,
motion,
sound and,
light.

Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
monitor through the iHome Control app.

More information at:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.ca%2Fen-ca%2Fproduct%2Fihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc%2F10488097.aspx&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc2ae30eb0861448ec7d608d65462a8a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636789180038485526&sdata=vKrqf%2FFF3CSKxbkBphFoZa3iGeRi1Dtwv6AXpUbGUAk%3D&reserved=0>

I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all of 
them accessible.

Jeff




On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they all 
controllable by Siri?

Also, what is an iH

RE: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi,
For smart heating I use a system from a company called Tado. I purchased it 
because of its Homekit integration but actually, I find I very rarely have to 
use the Homekit side of the operation because it all just works.
The basic setup is a smart thermostat. However, you can also add smart radiator 
valves to individual rooms. The system geolocates via the Tado app and reduces 
the set point of the thermostat gradually as you move further and further away 
from home. Critically, it also raises the temperature gradually as you return, 
so if your house is particularly cold and you're far away, the heating will 
switch on long before you arrive home.
Multiple users are supported and geolocation is based on the user closest to 
the house.
The system also has integration with weather forecast data and builds a model 
of how quickly the house warms up and cools down so that, for example, instead 
of setting the heating to come on at 7:00 AM, you set the house to be warm by 
7:00 AM. On a cold day this may trigger the heating to start up at 6:00 AM, but 
on a warmer day it might not come on until 6:45 AM.
Setup is an absolute doddle as all devices have a QR code on them, which you 
just scan into the app and let it do its thing. Only snag is that I'm not sure 
how compatible it is with US heating. If you can get it, though, I couldn't 
recommend it highly enough.
Matthew

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 25 November 2018 17:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what devices/appliances are people using with Apple Homekit?

Thanks, Jeff.  Just curious, do you control the thermostat through any of these 
interfaces?  We currently have a nest, but I'm thinking I'd like to have a 
thermostat I can control through Siri.  Currently looking at the Ecobee3.
Donna



On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

All of the products I use work with Homekit  They also work with Google Home.  
I have both systems in my house, so I wanted cross compatibility.

The iHome ISS50 is a 5 in 1 sensor.  It can report back on things such as:

temperature,
humidity,
motion,
sound and,
light.

Apparently, sound monitoring doesn’t currently work with Homekit, but you can 
monitor through the iHome Control app.

More information at:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ihome-ihome-iss50-5-in-1-smart-home-monitor-iss50wc/10488097.aspx

I use the iHome Control app, Philips Hue and Home for my needs and find all of 
them accessible.

Jeff



On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

thanks for this.  These are some of the devices I am considering.  Are they all 
controllable by Siri?

Also, what is an iHome ISS 50?
Thanks,
Donna




On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

I am using a bunch of Philips Hue lights which work with a bridge.  I also have 
several iHome Smart plugs that I use to turn things on and off and I have an 
August Smart Lock.

I’m hoping to get an iHome ISS50 5 in 1 sensor for Christmas.

Tia,
Jeff



On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I've become curious about using Apple home kit more in our house.  Wondering 
what devices/appliances list members are using with home kit that you 
particularly like?
TIA,
Donna

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RE: Apple Watch Exercise Ring

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi Jeff,
I have an incling that the exercise ring on the Apple Watch adjusts itself 
dynamically as it builds up a picture of what constitutes regular activity for 
you. In other words, you may very well be doing 30 minutes worth of exercise, 
but if that exercise doesn't look much more strenuous than what you'd be doing 
outside of exercise, the Apple Watch won't count it as exercise. It should 
still log a 30-minute work-out, but for it to count as exercise you would have 
to up your game. This is a continuous thing, as far as I understand it, and 
it's to encourage continual improvement.
Matthew


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On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: 20 November 2018 20:01
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apple Watch Exercise Ring

Hi all,

I have an Apple Watch and have been quite happy with it.  In the summer, it 
stopped talking to me, so I had to reset it.  The reset went fine, except now 
when I exercise for over 30 minutes, and use the Workout app, I don’t get 
credit for all my time.

For example, I might turn on the Workout app and walk for 30 minutes, but I 
might only get 41% or 71% of my exercise ring.  I’m not getting credit for my 
full workout.

Does anybody know what I can fix to get my full credit?  I know I did it, but 
it would be nice if this expense overlord knew it too. ;)

Thx,
Jeff


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RE: iPhone Battery Guide: Charging Your iPhone the Right Way

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi,
Modern batteries in things like iPhones work on a "charge cycle" basis. A 
charge from absolute 0% to absolute 100% constitutes a full "charge cycle". A 
charge from absolute 0% to exactly 50%, or exactly 50% to absolute 100%, would 
constitute half a "charge cycle".
The battery has a number of charge cycles which it's set up to support before 
things should be expected to not perform properly. That number is somewhere 
around the 1000 mark. In simple terms, if you take your phone off charge each 
morning and it's at 100%, and it's at 0% each evening by the time you put it 
back on charge, your phone's battery ought to last 1000 days, or about 2 years 
and nine months.
If, on the other hand, your battery is only at about 50% by the time you put it 
on charge each evening, it only needs half a charge cycle to get back up to 
100%. Hence, your battery should theoretically last 2000 days, or about five 
and a half years.
In practice the reverse happens, and the battery needs to be charged more 
frequently than once a day, so of course the battery lasts less than the two 
years nine months figure quoted above. But anything about needing to leave the 
battery to run all the way down before you charge it up is a myth, and an 
incorrect one at that. Batteries do not have "memories" like they used to. You 
also don't have to have the battery at 100% before first use, although you 
won't know exactly how much juice is in the thing until you get it going, so it 
might be handy to have a plug nearby just in case it comes up talking at 2% or 
something like that.
Having said all that about expected performance, I should point out that 
performance will degrade slowly over time even if you treat your batteries 
especially carefully. There is a battery gauge in your phone and this may 
periodically require a reset in order to combat this gradual degradation. 
Failure to do this may result in, for example, the phone showing a 10% warning 
and then immediately shutting down - because there was actually less than 10% 
but the gauge was out of step with the amount of juice in the battery.
To perform such a reset, intentionally charge the battery to 100% and then 
intentionally run the phone right down until the phone has no choice but to 
shut down, then intentionally charge back up to 100%. This procedure should not 
need to be undertaken any more frequently than once a month.
HTH,
Matthew

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Sent: 20 November 2018 20:12
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Ramy, that would be fine, to charge it to 100%. Then you are good to go. 
Enjoy the 8 plus. I got mine in February and it has been good.

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/20/2018 12:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
> O, thanks so much but just the 1st battery charge, how about it?
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 8:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Ramy,
>>That article is from 2013. I too went from an iPhone 5 to the 8 plus. I 
>> had the 5 for 5 years. I keep things simple. Charge overnight, which also 
>> allows the phone to be backed up. That is it. It makes no sense to let the 
>> phone run down for that is when you really need the phone in an emergency 
>> and, it will fail.
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 11/20/2018 10:15 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>>> Hello all People:
>>> Finally after fighting with my Iphone 5, i bought today Iphone 8+.
>>> THis is the 1st time that i need to ask about 1st Iphone Charge before 
>>> using it. i found this Artical, and do not know if it’s right or wrong.
>>> need to tell me:
>>> 1- i found some Battery power when i will power my Iphone, should i use 
>>> them or start Charging my Iphone?
>>> 2- can you read this artical and tell me, if this is true or not?
>>> charge it for 3 hours, let it power off for 2 hours, and Use it until the 
>>> battery went away, then charge it and leave it 2 extra power off hours.
>>> are they right?
>>> thanks in advance
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Homepod, was Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi Mary,

I have a Homepod. I will probably get another. But my impressions of it are 
basically the same as all the reviews you'll find if you Google it:

Homepod hardware is absolutely second to none. Sound is fantastic, the 
microphones can hear me speaking at normal volume from miles away. Siri 
accuracy is near 100% in terms of it correctly hearing what I want it to do.

Homepod software is steadily improving, but still not as capable as, say, 
Google Assistant. There are still many times where Siri knows what I want her 
to do, but can't actually do it. Saying that, Google doesn't hear me as well as 
Siri does, so in terms of time wasted, I'd say they're almost equal!

Phone calls, messages, calendars, reminders work well now, but only for one 
user, which will be a significant shortcoming in a family environment I'm sure.

Hope this helps a little bit,

Matthew



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Hi all,

This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the HomePod 
speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair of those in 
an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice stereo set up, but 
it’s rather old, although the speakers are still wonderful. I’m just curious 
what peoples impressions are of the HomePod, especially as a stereo pair in a 
moderate sized living room, as well as how it works otherwise. Siri, phone 
calls, etc.

Mary





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