Weird problem in Keynote
Hi list, I am having a pretty serious problem I was hoping someone might be able to help me with. I was giving a presentation today using Keynote when I noticed some very strange symptoms. I open my slide deck and click play on the toolbar, I can interact with the current slide, but as soon as I navigate to the next slide VoiceOver refuses to interact with that slide. It will read the slide title, but I can't interact with it to read the slide content. I have used this same slide deck, same version of keynote and same version of VoiceOver several times in the past with no issues, so I have no idea what might have changed to cause this problem. I restored the slide deck from backup and even tried a different slide deck, same issue. I checked in app store under updates and nothing has changed in the ast 30 days, and I gave this same presentation two weeks ago with no problems. This is Keynote 6.6.1 on OSX 10.11.3 on a 13" Macbook Air. Any suggestions on what I can try would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: BootDisk Creation Somewhat Works for OSX 10.9 Using Disk Maker X
Hi, The easiest approach to make a bootable USB for 10.9 is in your terminal. Open up a terminal prompt and do something like the following. sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/USB --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app You need to change /Volumes/USB to the correct volume name for your USB drive, "USB" just happens to be the name I gave mine when I formatted it in disk utility. On 10/25/13, Daniel C wrote: > Hi, > I created a boot disk with Disk maker x for OSx 10.9, and for some reason, > the disk doesn't show up under startup disk. > It gave no errors or anything, yet it says the disk creation was successful. > Any ideas as to this? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: for developers
Hi, Go to https://bugreport.apple.com/ and log in with your apple ID linked to your ADC membership. You should be able to report bugs against the developer build from there. Cheers On 6/8/12, William Windels wrote: > Hello, > I have a developers-account for osx so , I am testing 10.8 build 12a178q > I have discovered that some bugs of the current release of 10.7.4 aren't > fixed yet in the last build. > > Some of the bugs are: > 1. I can't still import older vo-prefs files even if I put them on a > usb-disc and let them import automatically when voiceover (re)starts. > Could I find a log-file of the import-action somewhere? > > 2. rotor in html-documents: > It can be very difficult sometimes to select links in a html-document like a > html-mail. I was wondering if it's a bug or not that the rotor is not > working in such mail messages. > > 3. The routing buttons on a braille-device are not always responding by > selecting a letter n a mail (this should not only work with read-write test > but also with read-only test)? > 4. the nuance speech bug for mail-addresses, websites and, in global, all > strings with a . in the string , is not solved. > > > So: > Where can I report this bugs on developer.apple.com on a voiceover-friendly > way? > > kind regards, > William > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adium Weirdness
Hi List, I am experiencing some Adium weirdness on a new Macbook which I have never seen before. When in a conversation with someone, if I interact with the "Unknown" HTML message history to review messages that have been sent, it is letting me read the first message but not scrole any further. I know there are more messages there because I can select all and paste into text editor something, bt I can't actually read them in the Adium app. I am running Snow Leopard patched up to the latest release, and the latest version of Adium. I have this exact same software combo on my work Macbook and on a mac mini and it works fine there, so I don't understand what's different about this particular installation. Has anyone seen this behaviour before, and have any suggestions what I can do to resolve it? Thanks, Mitch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development software for the Mac?
Hi Bryan, I'll have to check this out, I was wondering how others had worked around the interface builder issue. Cheers, Mitch - Original Message - From: "Bryan Smart" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:33 AM Subject: RE: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development software for the Mac? Hi. Jess is probably looking for something simple to use for learning programming concepts. For that, even Python would do. Python is built-in on the Mac. You can write Python scripts in TextEdit, and run them in the terminal. I wanted to let you, and others, know, though, that developing full desktop applications with XCode is accessible. The XCode development environment works extremely well with VoiceOver, even the parts that are usually a pain in other environments (like the debugger). Interface Builder, the tool that helps you to create the user interfaces of your program through a easy to use visual designer, isn't accessible. However, you can use my RenaissanceX system/dev kit to create user interfaces by describing what you want in a simple markup file that looks a lot like HTML. RenaissanceX will examine your descriptions of the types of controls that you need, and how they are related, and will automatically create a window with those controls arranged per Apple's User Interface Guidelines. More info is available at: http://www.bryansmart.com/renaissancex This is a work in progress, but it works, right now. It supports nearly all Cocoa user interface objects, and it works great with VoiceOver. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Philippe Brun Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development software for the Mac? Hello Jess, I think xCode with InterfaceBuilder is not accessible with VO. If you want to learn programming without graphical interface, you can use a lot of langages. The applications will run in the terminal. If you want to learn simple langage with graphical interface, you can learn AppleScript. You will find a lot of doc on the web. Good luck Philippe Le 11 avr. 2010 à 10:00, Jess a écrit : I'm going to take an introduction to computer programming and logic this summer, and the instructor knows I am blind and that I use voice over on the Mac. HE also is a MAc user, and he will be teaching the class this summer. He told me that the class would be using Alice, but I've looked at that program and it doesn't appear to be all that useful. So, does anyone know of any intro level software development programs that can help me get started to learn to program that works with v o? Thanks. Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes server and iPod touch
Hi, You can not add content to your iPod from a network based iTunes server such as those used on NAS appliances, iTunes will only support adding content from your local library. The way I have resolved this on my own network is to just store the content on a central server, but have the library location pointing to my local hard drive. If you have multiple computers on your network you can use an app such as TuneRanger to keep your libraries in sync, so when you add new content to your file server and import it in to the local library, the library additions are replicated to other computers on the network. I hope this helps. Cheers, Mitch - Original Message - From: "Chris G" To: Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: iTunes server and iPod touch Hi, I have a netgear nas with 3TB in it. The nas has the ability to be used as an iTunes server. All of my media is on the nas. When I go into iTunes on the Mac I can see the iTunes server and play the files on the server. Now heres the 64000 dollar question. Can I synk the media from the iTunes server with the iPod touch and if so how? Thanks Chris -- Chris G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac mini meats the putty knife
Hi, I have pulled apart an Intel mini, and I assume the G4 is similar. Getting the case open is the most interesting part, the first time you do it it feels entirely wrong and you'll probably think you are breaking the thing. The next time you do it, it will only take you seconds because you'll appreciate that the cases are really tougher than they look, and it's fairly hard to damage them. Unfortunately it's quite hard to avoid scratching the case at all, but once you put the thing back together and flip it the right way up, the tiny scratches won't be visible. I found the hardest part was reconnecting the tiny little cable at the front of the case once I had screwed the whole thing back together after upgrading the ram and hard disk, you need very small fingers or some needle nosed pliers to pull this off easily. Good luck :) Mitch - Original Message - From: "ben mustill-rose" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:12 AM Subject: Mac mini meats the putty knife > Hey all. > > Guess who's just been given a mac mini, which quite honestly is the > best computer I've ever touched! However all is not well, this mini > seems to be getting a bit hot and bothered - ie: when doing anything > intense it will get hot then shutdown; I understand this is actually a > feature. > > I want to open the case to try and remove some of the dust that I'm > assuming is the cause of this problem, but I've never delved inside a > mini before so am a little bit warey about how to go about it. > The general concensus seems to be to use a putty knife or 2 or to cut > & strip an ethernet cable then loop the wires around the tabs in order > to release them. However, when I've found posts about how to do this, > they've been quite pictorial so they haven't been that helpfull. > I'd be interested in hearing if any totally blind person has ever > managed to open the g4 1.42 mac mini without scratching it, using > either of the above methods. I should be fine locating everything once > the case is open, its just the actual removal of the casing that is > worrying me a little. > > As always, any response what so ever would be great. > Thanks for reading, Ben. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: looking for an editor to be used for programming
MacVim is quite accessible with VoiceOver. You can also tweak it a little to make things like Python source code editing that that little bit nicer. If you are looking for a fully featured IDE like Eclipse, then vim probably isn't for you, on the other hand if you are wanting an editor for some Python / PHP / shell scripting, then vim will fill those shoes quite nicely. Grab the latest snapshot from http://code.google.com/p/macvim/wiki/Snapshot Once you've got it installed, search back through the archives for an email from Yvonne Thomson with a subject of "Help with MacVim" which had some useful settings to drop in your .vimrc config file to get you started. I hope this helps. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Mann" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: looking for an editor to be used for programming Why would you even need to download Macvim? On my mac, vim is already in /usr/bin/vim. I don't know how accessible it is since vi and vim have always seemed weird to me. In my Linux days, I used pico or nano. On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: > What code are you wanting to edit? You can get Mac Vim from Google. > > TC > > James > On 29 Nov 2009, at 23:35, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I'm still looking for a good editor I can use for coding. I was using an >> editor on a vm in windows, but there are issues reading that with jaws, >> it notices lins as blank more than they really are, and it's not really >> reading like it should. I'd really like to find something that would work >> on the mac and allow me to easily edit code. >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ripping hol tv shows from dvd with hand brake?
I haven't found a solution to this one yet, short of ripping each individual episode. If you find a work-around I'd be most interested. - Original Message - From: "trahern culver" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:57 AM Subject: Re: ripping hol tv shows from dvd with hand brake? > i'm not going to cause there my own dvd's please will some one help > with this problem? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: FYI: VoiceOver Compatibility with Apple TV
I have a turbo.264 which is a hardware H264 encoder, made by the same company, which also suffers from some problems with VoiceOver trying to access the UI. - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:22 PM Subject: Re: FYI: VoiceOver Compatibility with Apple TV > Well at least that shows they are aware and are working the issue. That is > encouraging and hey they even know what VoiceOver is. > Hopefully they'll get to this sooner or later. > On Nov 26, 2009, at 6:43 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Here is a reply received with regard to Apple TV accessability with >> VoiceOver. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> >> Thank you for contacting Elgato. >> >> For now, Voiceover support in EyeTV is incomplete. Most of our unique >> windows are not fully Voiceover compatible, with only basic menus, >> standard >> notification windows, and the setup assistant properly functioning. >> >> We are currently working on improving our accessibility features and >> offering greater access to EyeTV's capabilities for everyone. >> Unfortunately, >> I do not have a timetable available for when that might be happening. >> >> I'm sorry I can't offer more concrete assistance in this matter but I >> will >> definitely pass your inquiry along to be added to our Voiceover feature >> request queue. >> >> Kathleen >> Elgato Systems >> >> Department: North American Customer Service >> Priority: Medium >> Status: In Progress (Sales) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mysql
Hi, I believe xcode has fairly good support for Ruby on Rails and is meant to be reasonably accessible with VoiceOver. I work as as a web application developer using the Apple WebObjects framework, the recommended development environment for which is Eclipse. Unfortunately at this time Eclipse still has some major issues working with VoiceOver, so I am using a Windows virtual machine on my macbook to do most of my WebObjects development. The other two major IDEs for Java web dev, being Netbeans and IntelliJ are not usable with VoiceOver at this time, however they aren't really usable with any of the Windows screen readers either to my knowledge. You're best bet might be using vi, if you don't require a full featured IDE. I hope this helps. Cheers, Mitch - Original Message - From: John W. Carty To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: mysql I've had the misfortune of spending the last twenty years working as a programmer. Mostly on IBM mainframe, cobol/cics. Over the past few years I've been struggling to make the leap to a web application environment and I find using ms development tools with pc screen readers less then satisfying. I seem to spend more time frustrating myself trying to write jaws scripts than I do developingapplications. I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and I'm considering making the leap from windows to a mac. Are there any web programmers out there using VO? What development tools are you using and how well does VO operate? I'd be very interested to hear your experience. Thanx, John Carty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Code Editor
Hi List, I was wondering if anyone has found an accessible source code editor for the Mac? I would normally use Eclipse for this task, but I've had some significant issues with Eclipse since upgrading to SnowLeopard so I'm looking for alternatives. Specifically I need an editor which can do Python and Java, but the occasional bit of Ruby and C might get thrown at it as well. I don't need anything too fancy, simple code formatting and a jump-to feature so when you highlight a method it takes you to the place it was defined are the main features I use, though code completion is nice as well. Look forward to any suggestions. Cheers, Mitch --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SnowLeopard and the Dock
Hi, A feature that I frequently used in Leopard seems to no longer be available in SnowLeopard. I like to put commonly used applications in the Dock for quick access, for me this means things like Adium, Terminal and VMWare Fusion. In Leopard after launching an app I used to be able to down-arrow on it's dock item and select Keep in Dock or Open at Logon, however I no longer seem to be able to do this. I have noticed for pre-existing Dock items such as Photo Booth I can up-arrow on them and under options I can select Remove from Dock, however up-arrow doesn't seem to do anything on newly opened applications. Has anyone found a work around for this yet? Thanks for any suggestions. Cheers, Mitch __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4439 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SnowLeopard and Eclipse
Hi, I just upgraded my work Macbook to SnowLeopard and discovered a bit of a problem with the Eclipse IDE (www.eclipse.org). I should start of by saying that I am using the Carbon build because I find the Cocoa build a bit unresponsive with VoiceOver. A good example of this is when using the Cocoa version, try creating a new Java class, the page that appears asking for the package, class name, checkboxes for abstract and final, etc, as you tab around the page there is a definite delay between pressing tab and VoiceOver announcing where you have landed. I'm not entirely sure of the cause of this, but I have heard reports of the screen taking a while to redraw so maybe this is a non visual symptom of the same problem. So back to the carbon build, I unpacked the latest Eclipse Classic 3.5 on a fresh install of SnowLeopard 10.6.1 and launched it. I hit control + option + m to bring up the menu bar and was met with a bleep. It appears that this standard keyboard shortcut cannot be used to reach the menu bar in Eclipse, even though this works with the exact same version of Eclipse on Leopard 10.5.8. I also tried this on earlier developer builds of SnowLeopard with no problem, so this is a recent issue. Before I go ahead and file a bug with Apple, I was wondering if anyone has encountered this same issue. Any feedback would be appreciated. Cheers, Mitch __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4439 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Audio Editor
Hi List, Could anyone recommend a good audio editor that works well with VoiceOver? I don't need anything too advanced, just something I can use to trim white noise from the start and end of wav files, as well as apply fading to selected sections of audio. Something that makes it easy to select sections of audio with a keyboard would be great, preferably with fairly fine increments for jumping forward and back. Thanks, Mitchell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Optimizing terminal accessibility
Hi, As a software developer myself, I find it more VO friendly to use an IDE such as Eclipse 3.5 for Java / Python dev. It's much quicker to jump around files, you have content assist for completing method names, it is constantly building your project in the background and the Problems view will very quickly report any compile problems in your code, it has nice integration for revision control like subversion or git, it also has plugins for ruby / C++ so it should cover all the languages you require. Eclipse 3.4 under Leopard definitely had some issues but the new Eclipse 3.5 which uses cocoa for UI controls works much more nicely. The performance is a little sub optimal at this stage with Java 5, but Java 6 in Snow Leopard appears to resolve most of that. I hope this helps. Cheers, Mitch - Original Message - From: "Garry Turkington" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Optimizing terminal accessibility > > Hi James/Alex, > > Thanks for your input here. James, I'd be interested to hear if you've > done any configuring to make access to apps on the remote machines you ssh > to better? > > Coming back to my 3 questions thanks for the clarification re interaction > with the scroll area for screen review, that's fine. > > But I'm still frustrated that multi-line output from commands isn't > automatically read and would either require me to interact with the scroll > area to review the output or as Alex suggests pipe output to a file for > review. I'll be doing primarily Java development (with some > C++/Python/Ruby thrown in) so an efficient edit/compile/debug cycle is > really important. Getting the output of the Java compiler to read as it > appears instead of having to review it or even worse pipe out and review > would probably improve my productivity by an order of magnitude. > > On the remaining point does anyone use any ncurses based apps such as Pine > or Lynx on remote machines and discovered a way for better cursor > tracking? Anyone raised terminal accessibility issues with Apple? > > Many thanks, > Garry > > -- > Garry Turkington > garry.turking...@gmail.com > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Michael Babcock wrote: > >> >> hi; >> jumping in here, but i use terminal all the time for sshing into the 3 >> servers i administer, if someone has a better way to do this, that >> would be wonderful, but i just use it now and love it:) >> On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:10 AM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Alex and all, >>> >>> Aren't VIM and Nano Linux command line tools? I'm sure I've seen >>> them when >>> I've played with Linux? You can port these to the Mac I take it how >>> cool. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Alex Jurgensen" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: Optimizing terminal accessibility >>> >>> Hi, Gary, I use it all day with varied success. Nano is a new eddition to my toolbox and it seems to have a few qwerks, but nothing major. I also used to use VIM, but found it crashed a lot with VO. You are correct that interacting and moving the VO cursor is the only way to read prior text. As far as interuptions, you should pipe the contents to a file and read it from teh file instead. What knd of development are you doing? Regards, Alex, On 20-Jul-09, at 8:09 PM, Garry Turkington wrote: > > Hi, > > I played with the Mac terminal last year and got some help from > people > here re its accessibility. I'm now using my Mac a lot more and want > to > get the most out of the terminal so am requesting wisdom from others > out > there. > > From the command line I really need the ability to do development > locally > and connect to remote machines via ssh. I've found a few issues: > > 1. Any command that generates multi-line output seems to be > truncated by > the prompt or new line announcement. Good example is "java - > version". I > can improve this by setting a much shorter prompt in my shell but > it's > still very hit and miss. Is there any way to configure things to > more > reliably read new information? I've tried messing around with > cursor and > terminal types with no success that I can really point to. > > 2. Is there any way to review prior text on the screen or is > interacting > with the scroll area and moving the VO cursor up the way to do that? > > 3. When connecting to remote machines -- and to a lesser degree > locally -- > I need access to some ncurses applications but the cursor tracking > with VO > seems very unpredictable. An example would be to open "lynx - > show_cursor" > on the remote box and try and say navigate around the CNN homepage. > Or > use something like pine where cursoring around changes
Re: IPhone development
You can get the iPhone SDK from http://developer.apple.com/ - Original Message - From: "Alex Jurgensen" To: Cc: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:27 AM Subject: IPhone development > > Hi, > Lists: > > How do I obtain the iPhone devloper SDK? > > Regards, > Alex, > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
I also visited the university village Apple store when I was in Seattle late last year and found the staff there to be exceptionally helpful. I had to pick up a AC adapter for my Macbook since I left mine back in Australia (don't ask), and the sales person I dealt with had quite a number of questions about how I used my Macbook and how VoiceOver worked. Of course the fact that I could just walk in to a store across the other side of the world and pick up an AC adapter with no difficulties really made me appreciate the Mac that day, I don't think I would have had quite the same success if I was traveling with a Dell. - Original Message - From: "Ben King" To: Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington > > Dear Mac Friends, > > I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at > the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The person > that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to see > improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be > nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. > Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and > play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the > Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. > Blessings, > Ben King > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4139 (20090608) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4139 (20090608) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: disk utilitty
Hi, This is a little tricky, but if you are running Leopard, VoiceOver does have support for performing a drag and drop operation via the keyboard (not implemented in Tiger). Check out the tutorial at http://www.lioncourt.com/guides-tutorials/drag-and-drop-with-voiceover/ Following the drag and drop instructions in this tutorial I was able to drag a DMG image from my hard disk and restore it on a USB drive with no problem. Cheers, Mitch - Original Message - From: "ben mustill-rose" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: disk utilitty > > Hey all, i'm getting very frustrated at disk utilitty and am wondering > if anyone could help. > I have an iso of content and a usb drive that I want to restore that > content to. > > I open disk utilitty and click restore but it wants me to drag the > disks into the edit boxes. I pasted the source in but for some reason > its not letting me paste the destination. > > Very annoyed right now, so if anyone could help me out that'd be great. > > Cheers. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Eclipse with Cocoa
Hi,
A lot of the bugs you describe do not exist with the Eclipse 3.5 cocoa build
and the VoiceOver in snow leopard.
I've been extensively testing this setup, as I use Eclipse in my daily job
and would very much like to do away with my windows virtual machine.
If I were you I'd wait for the official Eclipse 3.5 release (scheduled for
June/July this year if all goes according to plan), and the release of Snow
Leopard (can't give you an estimation on that one).
Any bugs that exist after that would definitely be worth raising both with
Apple and Eclipse.
I have found Apple to be very responsive in resolving any VoiceOver issues I
have raised in Snow Leopard which is very encouraging to note, it just
proves their dedication to accessibility.
- Original Message -
From: "E.J. Zufelt"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Eclipse with Cocoa
Good morning,
The following URL lists current Eclipse Cocoa bugs. I believe that if
you sign up for a Eclipse bugzilla account you can file a bug in a
similar fashion.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?classification=Eclipse&product=Platform&component=SWT&op_sys=Mac+OS+X+-+Cocoa&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
HTH,
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On 21-Apr-09, at 7:02 AM, Jonathan Chacón wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> this is a short answer because I have to go to the doctor
>
>
> I don't find any method to file these bugs in eclipse. Where can I
> file these bugs?
> I'll search in eclipse menu if there is any option to do this but
> if there is anybody knows it
>
>
>
> Regards
> Jonathan Chacón
>
>
> El 21/04/2009, a las 11:51, E.J. Zufelt escribió:
>
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> Interesting, I haven't tried much of this myself. Have these bugs
>> been filed with Eclipse? I imagine that they would get resolved if
>> filed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Everett
>>
>> Follow me on Twitter
>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>
>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21-Apr-09, at 3:51 AM, Jonathan Chacón wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I used Cocoa version for 4 days and it is better than carbon
>>> version...
>>>
>>> It is slower if you use macbook with batteries. I think it happends
>>> because of Java runtime.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can jump between views using the shortcuts and voiceOver detect
>>> the jump.
>>>
>>> There are a few problems in editor area. For example, when you type
>>> ( or { voiceOver stops to speak but when you type ) or ; voiceOver
>>> starts to speak again.
>>> You can not use control+space menu when you are in editor area.
>>>
>>> the child windows hasn't title and you can not detect if a child
>>> window is a editor area, a view area or the debug log window
>>>
>>> I hope all this problems would be solve because I think Cocoa
>>> Eclipse
>>> is a good alternative to VI developpers
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Jonathan Chacón
>>>
>>> El 21/04/2009, a las 7:56, Mitchell Smith escribió:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been using the Eclipse 3.5 nightly builds which use a native
>>>> Cocoa UI
>>>> rather than the Carbon one used by 3.4.
>>>>
>>>> They seem to be working exceptionally well with the latest build of
>>>> Snow
>>>> Leopard after a bug got resolved by Apple where screenreaderd would
>>>> keep
>>>> crashing and restarting every time you tried to switch views.
>>>>
>>>> If you are looking to move away from Windows, then the (hopefully)
>>>> soon to
>>>> be released Eclipse 3.5 and the (hopefully) soon to be released
>>>> Snow
>>>> Leopard
>>>> are looking extremely promising.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "E.J. Zufelt"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Eclipse with Cocoa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good evening,
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone tried the Eclipse IDE with Cocoa support. If so can
>>>>> you
>>>>> share your experience as it relates to VO accessibility?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/swt/cocoaport.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Everett
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow me on Twitter
>>>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>>>>
>>>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
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Re: Eclipse with Cocoa
I have been using the Eclipse 3.5 nightly builds which use a native Cocoa UI rather than the Carbon one used by 3.4. They seem to be working exceptionally well with the latest build of Snow Leopard after a bug got resolved by Apple where screenreaderd would keep crashing and restarting every time you tried to switch views. If you are looking to move away from Windows, then the (hopefully) soon to be released Eclipse 3.5 and the (hopefully) soon to be released Snow Leopard are looking extremely promising. - Original Message - From: "E.J. Zufelt" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Eclipse with Cocoa > > Good evening, > > Has anyone tried the Eclipse IDE with Cocoa support. If so can you > share your experience as it relates to VO accessibility? > > http://www.eclipse.org/swt/cocoaport.php > > Everett > > Follow me on Twitter > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > View my LinkedIn Profile > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Code editor accessible with VoiceOver
Eclipse is a reasonably good option, especially with a fully Cocoa port in the works for version 3.5. I've been playing with the nightly builds and they are working extremely well. Eclipse is primarily a Java editor, however plugins exist for Python, Ruby, Groovy, C, PHP, HTML, JavaScript etc. The 3.4 builds do have a few issues with VoiceOver, fortunately these have been resolved in SnowLeopard. The other option of course is Xcode which is available as part of the Apple dev tools. I haven't really spent much time with this so can't offer as much feedback. - Original Message - From: "Victor Tsaran" To: Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Code editor accessible with VoiceOver > > Hey guys, > Can anyone give me some ideas on what free code editors are accessible > with Voiceover? I tried TextMate and, for the most part, it works fine > except for the editing area itself. Unfortunately, Voiceover does not > see any text in the text area. For simple thing I, of course, can use > textedit, but it lacks some basic features such as "go to line" etc. > > Any suggestions? > Thanks, > Vic > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: games for the Mac?
I thought I might check out some of the open source Z code interpreters and try and resurrect some of the old Infocom text adventures. I have had some success with this on Linux in the past, so hoping this will probably work with VoiceOver on the terminal as well. - Original Message - From: "Peninnah" To: Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: Re: games for the Mac? > > I was wondering the same thing. I'd like to find an accessible solitaire. > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Baxter" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:12 PM > Subject: games for the Mac? > > >> >> Other than web-based games like trivia type games, are there any games >> that are VO friendly for the mac? I've never heard of any, other than >> something like Quake, which has a Mac version of the AQ mod, which >> also need to get set up... >> >> >> Mark BurningHawk >> >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> My home page: >> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
