Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
If you don't already have this set, you can go into voiceover utility, to the commanders area, and then to the quick nav tab. And check the box that says 'enable single key webpage navigation when using quick nav. then you can use H for heading, b for button, and so on. HTH, Rachel On Jul 2, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote: So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would also like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages. Perhaps as a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but I find it easier to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows screen readers then with voice over. Again this may be my missing something major. And yes the dictionary would be nice my name especially I would like to hear it with its Spanish pronunciation again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able to correct. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements. I can't remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them. I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements. The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by the pathetic slow buffering system voice over uses. So I would like to see that rewritten from the ground up. There are a few random performance bugs that happen now and then which require me to switch voice over off then back on again. So overall performance could do with being improved. I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful. I would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down arrow or up key. VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many HMTL elements are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to find more tables and headings than VO, especially in the buggy rotor. I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, but I believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release (according to Apple's website). I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update to iWork. There just is not enough accessible productive software on the Mac. There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely? Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices where the pitch used to shift up and down randomly. I stopped using those voices as it became too annoying. I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary. For example if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r and d, you get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third? So I think the ability to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or maybe VO should grow up and become a tad more intelligent. I would like more control over how VO reads out numbers too. Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls an HTML area, as something else? For example when using adium the chat window is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or conversation window would be more meaningful. Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the iTunes store. The page takes a while to render. Well actually visually it does not, but VO seems to think it does. Actually come to mention it when VO says something is busy, a sighted person can still move the mouse and perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy. I spotted another bug today too. When ordering a smart case for my iPad, VO was unable to read out the colour options. When trying to select a colour, VO simply said space radio button for each of the 6 colours. The work around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the top of the screen and read out the description to see if the default green had changed. Or look in the basket and hope to god you have not selected pink. I eventually performed this task via the Apple Store app on my iPhone which performed perfectly. Chris On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote: Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. I'll go 1st. For me its safari. two things for me. 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO utility. 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when
Re: Downloading bard books with the mac
Hi Mike, all i see in the Toolbar is the downloads button, nowhere to monitor progress. And if you wouldn't mind, please describe how unzipping them is possible to get the files I need in order to play these books? Thanks again. Rachel On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You can monitor the download progress in the tool bar. I download bard books all the time, usually when you unzip them, a folder is created that contains all of the files, copy that to your player, works great. On Jun 30, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: Hi Everyone, I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is there some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when it has finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way to extract the zip contents of the folder? Wehn I use the default program on the mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder with a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual machine to get the book downloaded and extracted as their was progress indicator's given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder contents then put it onto a supported device. Help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Downloading bard books with the mac
Thank you to Ray and Mike, I now understand how to access the downloads, the progress, and how the book is extracted, which is a very simple process. Your patience and explanations helped a lot in this matter, and makes me quite glad that I can now use the mac for yet one more thing, I don't need the VM to accomplish. Rachel On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Click the download button to see the download list. Once the fileis downloaded, open it in the usual way, it should unzip and create the folder on its own. On Jul 1, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: Hi Mike, all i see in the Toolbar is the downloads button, nowhere to monitor progress. And if you wouldn't mind, please describe how unzipping them is possible to get the files I need in order to play these books? Thanks again. Rachel On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You can monitor the download progress in the tool bar. I download bard books all the time, usually when you unzip them, a folder is created that contains all of the files, copy that to your player, works great. On Jun 30, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: Hi Everyone, I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is there some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when it has finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way to extract the zip contents of the folder? Wehn I use the default program on the mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder with a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual machine to get the book downloaded and extracted as their was progress indicator's given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder contents then put it onto a supported device. Help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Twitter question
Navigate to http://www.twitter.com Sign in, and then press Vo Space on the link that is your name. You'll be taken to your profile page. From there, you can activate the web item rotor with Vo+U, and choose the account link. then, near the bottom of the page, there's a deactivate account link. This should give you what you need. Rachel On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Hi, On the mac running snow leopard and using safari what is the easiest way to close my twitter account. Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Downloading bard books with the mac
Hi Everyone, I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is there some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when it has finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way to extract the zip contents of the folder? Wehn I use the default program on the mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder with a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual machine to get the book downloaded and extracted as their was progress indicator's given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder contents then put it onto a supported device. Help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Downloading bard books with the mac
I appreciate your explanation as well. So I interact with the item and choose the window menu from within the downloads folder to see progress? And the setting to have items automatically unzipped might be nice as well. Will see if it can be tracked down. Thanks again. On Jun 30, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Christina wrote: Hi, I am on Snow leopard. If I want to see my progress I need to open the downloads window. I can do this by either pressing command plus option, plus L. I can also get to this via the menu bar then going to the window menu drop down. Once, You are in the downloads window in Safari, you can VO around and interact with the list and you can access this info. Also, my mac automatically unzips my DTB files for me once the download is complete. I think there is a setting to have the mac automatically open downloaded items, I think this is why it automatically unzips the files for me. I am sorry, but I cannot remember where I saw this setting. HTH, Christina C. On Jun 30, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: Hi Everyone, I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is there some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when it has finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way to extract the zip contents of the folder? When I use the default program on the mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder with a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual machine to get the book downloaded and extracted as their was progress indicator's given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder contents then put it onto a supported device. Help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A couple more questions about embeded attachment documents
You can vo Left arrow from within the quick look window, and go to the open file button. then it'll open in the default, which must be pages for you. Also if you open 1 file in pages, then press command+o to open others, (referring to the 4 documents you mentioned), you can press command+` to cycle through open windows of that application and in your case, your documents and move text as desired. hope this helps some, Rachel On Jun 30, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: Thanks to whoever it was who sent me the much needed information on how to open an embeded attachment. When using the Command+Y command, the attachment document.txt opens in something called quick look.First, how can I get this txt doc to open in Pages? Or what is the select all command so I can paste it into Pages. Also, is it possible to open more then one or two docs at the same time and alt tab between them so I can copy and move text between them? How can I do this? FYI, There are four txt documents I need to be able to manipulate in Pages.. Thank you, Johnny Not of this world, I am born of The forty-second generation A new, powerful race, never seen before. Wish to join? Initiation is completely FREE! NOTE: Limited time sensitive offer. Johnny Angel Chilelli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Downloading bard books with the mac
Hi eric, i have the option in Safari checked to open safe downloads, but I usually don't see the book extracted after the process has finished. and where is this group located I must interact with in order to see the status? In the downloads folder? Thanks so much for the comments and for the specific place to find the automatically open downloads option. Rachel On Jun 30, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Rachel, It sounds like you are getting many different ways of approaching downloading books from NLS BARD. I'll add a few comments that I hope help. I'm using Lyon and Safari. I have the Safari preference setting under General set to open safe files after downloading. This means the file is unzipped automatically so I have the book waiting for me and ready to go in my downloads folder. I don't generally worry about the download status but If I want to check it you can go to the downloads list and interack with the group associated with the download and the information is there. Once the book is downloaded I simply either copy it to the NLS cartridge I purchased from American Printing House For the Blind and it works just like a NLS book. Only I fit many books onto the single cartridge. To access the multiple books just hold down the play button on the NLS machine and it will open the bookshelf. To copy to the cartridge you will need a USB extender cable also sold at the American Printing House for the Blind. If I'm using the Victor reader stream then I copy the folder from my Mac to the book shelf folder on the SD card and it works fine. If you don't have a NLS cartridge for the NLS player a thumb drive will work the same way. Hope this helps. I find the process quick and easy on the Mac. Best. eRic Caron On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: Hi Everyone, I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is there some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when it has finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way to extract the zip contents of the folder? Wehn I use the default program on the mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder with a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual machine to get the book downloaded and extracted as their was progress indicator's given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder contents then put it onto a supported device. Help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: what's the keyborrd short cut to get to the top of message lists in mail? sorry ive foregotten it.
the keyboard commander is turned on in VoiceOver Utility. You can get there with VO F8. Then you go tothe commanders portion, and choose the keyboard tab. There's a checkbox to enable keyboard commander as well. And you can then interact with the messages table in mail, and to get to the top, press VO function shift left arrow on a laptop keyboard. HTH, Rachel On Jun 28, 2012, at 5:55 PM, trahern culver wrote: thanks guys but don't you need the num pad for the keyboard commander? and what are the shortcuts for a laptop keyborred? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
