Re: Apple Watch series 7

[Portia Scott]

Well heck, I'd say yes.
But then again, I don't stay very current myself either, LOL. As I just
remembered that my recently deceased partner Michelle had a series 8 that
she put in my area of the room somewhere, that I have to search for.
Portia.
On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 1:41 PM 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
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> Hi all,
> A friend is offering me his Apple watch series 7. Is it current
> enough to work well for me? Thanks.
>
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Re: My review after spending two weeks with the Activator braille display

[Scott Davert]

Hi Donna.
Unless they have very recently upddated the manual, the section on
Android talks about BrailleBack and how to set this up. The problem is
that, though the BrailleBack app is still available on some 3rd party
stores, it's not available on the Google Play Store. TalkBack as of
2022 has direct support for braille displays.
The feature with pressing enter, typing in the app name and so forth
is available with iOS 17 and any supported display.

I hope these things help clerify,
Scott

On 1/14/24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi Scott,
>
> I’m a little surprised Mike didn’t get back to you.  He was extremely
> helpful to me, and very responsive to my questions.  Damian is less
> responsive it seems, but since Mike is in charge of tech support, it wasn’t
> too much of a big deal. But for what it’s worth, I sent quite a few messages
> to Helptech in Germany while I was trying to sort through things.  It was
> during Christmas, of course, and their offices were closed until the 8.  But
> it’s been a week now, and I still haven’t received a response to any of my
> messages.  I didn’t want to include that in the review, but that would seem
> to be yet another reason not to purchase an Activator.
>
> I did read the section in the Manual on Android briefly.  From what I saw,
> it just talked about using it with Android via bluetooth.  But since I had
> no way to confirm that, I also didn’t want to include it.
>
> What do you mean by your comment that Launching apps is as simple as
> pressing dot 8 and then typing the app name?  Which display are you talking
> about there?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Nice review, Donna!
>> Part of why I have not published an article on this device is because
>> Dream Vision never responded to a couple of questions I had. One of them
>> being the lack of ability to connect to Android. I was hoping to get
>> official confirmation of this before throwing it into the universe, but
>> here we are.
>> I agree, for that much money, it has quite a bit of progress to make
>> before it's ready for the masses. It feels like a beta device to me. The
>> file transfer thing with the dock is neat. However, USB-C support is
>> emerging for other devices, so that's not unique. The news service is, but
>> launching apps is now as simple as pressing dot 8, typing the first word
>> of the app, and then activating it. 2 years ago, this would have been a
>> huge hit, though. The easiest way to check the battery status is when you
>> turn the Activator on. It's displayed as part of the opening message or
>> whatever you want to call it. What would have been the harm in creating a
>> keyboard shortcut to check the battery status like what is found on every
>> other device out there?
>>
>> Just my perspective,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:28 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Sabahattin,
>>>
>>> You’re welcome.  The interface with the iPhone is definitely worth being
>>> excited about.  But I came to the conclusion that it didn’t offset the
>>> other minuses, as you can tell.  I find it strange and ironic that they
>>> designed this display that is clearly intended to function in the
>>> Appleverse, and then tied it to a PC for things like updating.  I get
>>> that people with iPhones do have PCs, but you’d think that they would
>>> have made either an iPhone or a Mac updating method available.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> > On Jan 10, 2024, at 2:41 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
>>> > >> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for an excellent review, Donnah.
>>> >
>>> > I guess unsurprisingly, the part that interests me most is
>>> > thecombination of iPhone and Activator, since that's clearly the
>>> > dominant use case, but the assembly sounds rather brittle and then the
>>> > issue of newer USB-C iphones. I won't be buying any time soon, but I'd
>>> > be interested to see how this develops.
>>> >
>>> > Some of the other stuff is rather less inspiring though. Windows is at
>>> > fault for the USB issues, though presumably that will get fixed,
>>> > however the requirement to use Windows to update firmware just makes me
>>> > sad. Again, I hope there's a fix, in some not-too-distant future. The
>>>

Re: My review after spending two weeks with the Activator braille display

[Scott Davert]

Nice review, Donna!
Part of why I have not published an article on this device is because Dream
Vision never responded to a couple of questions I had. One of them being
the lack of ability to connect to Android. I was hoping to get official
confirmation of this before throwing it into the universe, but here we are.
I agree, for that much money, it has quite a bit of progress to make before
it's ready for the masses. It feels like a beta device to me. The file
transfer thing with the dock is neat. However, USB-C support is emerging
for other devices, so that's not unique. The news service is, but launching
apps is now as simple as pressing dot 8, typing the first word of the app,
and then activating it. 2 years ago, this would have been a huge hit,
though. The easiest way to check the battery status is when you turn the
Activator on. It's displayed as part of the opening message or whatever you
want to call it. What would have been the harm in creating a keyboard
shortcut to check the battery status like what is found on every other
device out there?

Just my perspective,
Scott

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> Hi Sabahattin,
>
> You’re welcome.  The interface with the iPhone is definitely worth being
> excited about.  But I came to the conclusion that it didn’t offset the
> other minuses, as you can tell.  I find it strange and ironic that they
> designed this display that is clearly intended to function in the
> Appleverse, and then tied it to a PC for things like updating.  I get that
> people with iPhones do have PCs, but you’d think that they would have made
> either an iPhone or a Mac updating method available.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> > On Jan 10, 2024, at 2:41 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for an excellent review, Donnah.
> >
> > I guess unsurprisingly, the part that interests me most is
> thecombination of iPhone and Activator, since that's clearly the dominant
> use case, but the assembly sounds rather brittle and then the issue of
> newer USB-C iphones. I won't be buying any time soon, but I'd be interested
> to see how this develops.
> >
> > Some of the other stuff is rather less inspiring though. Windows is at
> fault for the USB issues, though presumably that will get fixed, however
> the requirement to use Windows to update firmware just makes me sad. Again,
> I hope there's a fix, in some not-too-distant future. The interface sounds
> rather primitive though, which strikes me as a bit of a red flag seeing as
> how it's supposed to improve on the iPhone for editing tasks. All the
> technology in the world can't help if it's not efficient to use for that,
> and since the whole point is to marry that efficiency with your existing
> phone's functionality, rather than replacing it, they probably need to
> improve their software considerably for me to consider switching away from
> a Focus or any display with stored Braille input capability. Again, I'll be
> interested to see how others find it after they've done some more work on
> their software.
> >
> > Thanks again for your review. It was very informative.
> >
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Re: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

[Scott Davert]

Hello Sarai.
I was quite happy with my Logetech K380 as well, but I think it would
take a larger purse to carry it around. The iClever Tri-fold keyboards
are decent, but like Donna said, the keys are kind of small. That
said, they have to be more small to fit in that physical form factor.

Best,
Scott

On 12/4/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi Sarai,
>
> Before I got my Mantis, I used a Logitech keyboard, sorry can’t remember the
> model number.  But I was very happy with it.  I also have an iClever
> keyboard.  It’s nice in that it’s very portable, but the keys are kind of
> small, and it folds in the middle, which can make using it in your lap a
> little tricky.  But if you want something small that will fit in a purse,
> it’s not a bad choice.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Dec 3, 2023, at 7:57 PM, 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> All:
>> I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving.
>> Merry Christmas to me! LOL.
>> I’m loving it.
>> Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone
>> recommend a portable keyboard that I can use with my new iPad? Something I
>> can carry for travel as well.
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Re: mac os 14 and ios apps

[Scott Davert]

Well, it was an answer, just not one you wanted. LOL. Yay for
reporting broken stuff, hopefully more people do so.

Scott

On 7/13/23, mattias jonsson  wrote:
> now a bug report are done.
>
>
>> 14 juli 2023 kl. 02:04 skrev mattias jonsson :
>>
>> if you dont want to answer dont write
>> anyone have an answer?
>> stop was so correct
>>
>>> 14 juli 2023 kl. 01:43 skrev 'jason' via MacVisionaries
>>> :
>>>
>>> I can’t discuss beta software here, due to the terms of Apple’s beta
>>> testing agreement.
>>> If you find bugs in beta software, you should report them to Apple. I
>>> plan to do likewise for any bugs I find in software that I test.
>>>
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>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of mattias jonsson
>>> mailto:mjonsson1...@gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 19:17
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: mac os 14 and ios apps
>>>
>>> i dont know ifthe public beta of mac os are started but if it is anyone
>>> observered that ios apps not working properly? i cant describe the issue
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Re: iOS upgrade to 16.3?

[Scott Davert]

Phil.
I wish you the best with your upgrade! It's a bit quirky, especially
for braille users, but I don't think you are one of those. There are
fewer issues for speech users, so I would think you would be fine, but
that's speculation.

Take care,
Scott

On 2/14/23, Phil Halton  wrote:
> I don’t need blanket assurances or anything, I just asked because I thought
> I remembered hearing a little more chatter than normal about this new
> version 16 having more troubles than most. Anyway, I think I’ll go ahead and
> update. Thanks
>
> Sent from my IPhone
>
>
>> On Feb 14, 2023, at 12:01 PM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That would depend on your access needs. There will never be a blanket
>> statement put out that says everyone should upgrade. That never
>> happens because we are all different and thus have different needs.
>> For example, there are a lot of braille bugs in 16.3 that wouldn't
>> impact a speech only, or not as much of an impact, if you use it to
>> supplement your speech access.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>> On 2/14/23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> wrote:
>>>Sorry to say this Phil, but there is no such thing as a bug free
>>> anything.  We're already half way to iOS 17!
>>>
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>>>> On 2/14/2023 7:43 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>>> I am still using iOS 15. Have they shaken the bugs out of iOS 16 with
>>>> version three yet or is it still not a good idea to upgrade?. I don’t
>>>> want
>>>> to lose accessibility or sensitivity of the screen or any functionality
>>>> for that matter.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>
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Re: iOS upgrade to 16.3?

[Scott Davert]

That would depend on your access needs. There will never be a blanket
statement put out that says everyone should upgrade. That never
happens because we are all different and thus have different needs.
For example, there are a lot of braille bugs in 16.3 that wouldn't
impact a speech only, or not as much of an impact, if you use it to
supplement your speech access.

Scott

On 2/14/23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
> Sorry to say this Phil, but there is no such thing as a bug free
> anything.  We're already half way to iOS 17!
>
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> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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> On 2/14/2023 7:43 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> I am still using iOS 15. Have they shaken the bugs out of iOS 16 with
>> version three yet or is it still not a good idea to upgrade?. I don’t want
>> to lose accessibility or sensitivity of the screen or any functionality
>> for that matter.
>>
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: iOS/iPadOS 16.1

[Scott Davert]

Hi E.T. I have recently used iOS 16.1 and the 16.2 beta with a Focus
40 5th generation without any trouble. Have you tried resetting all
settings? I'm not sure if iOS 16 back-ups work under 16.1, but if they
are, why not give it a try? Please let us know how it goes.

Wishing you the best of luck,
Scott

On 11/2/22, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> That might resolve the issue.
> I haven’t  tried this since I am on beta testing so I can’t say.
> /A
>
>> 2 nov. 2022 kl. 18:04 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>> :
>>
>>   My braille display was connected to both devices and working until the
>> above mentioned updates.
>>
>>   Now I wonder if restoring from a backup will reinstall the OS? Or
>> perhaps simply doing the restore will correct the issues. If anyone is
>> using the Focus 40 Blue 5th braille display, opinions will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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Re: Is there any way to set my phone so that the lock button hangs up phone calls?

[Scott Davert]

It's never worked for me either. Even if I dump VoiceOver, it isn't
ending the call here. Good thing I don't like to hang up on people I
guess, though I hardly make phone calls these days anyway.

Scott

On 11/3/22, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
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> Thanks for posting this.  I will report it to Apple Accessibility as well.
> Best,
> Donna
>
>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 11:36 PM, Shai  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> This feature has not worked for me since the release of iOS 16. It was
>> indicated to Apple Accessibility and I was hoping that the feature
>> would be fixed so that it did work.
>> This feature does not seem to work for me on either an iPhone10-r or
>> iPhone13 pro.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/22, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>> Interesting.  It was already set to off.  I’ve tried toggling it on and
>>> off
>>> again, hopefully that will fix it.  Thanks, Janet.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Janet Ingber 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> Go to Settings/Accessibility/Touch/Prevent Lock to End Call. This is a
>>>> toggle switch.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 5:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there are people who hate that feature, but I actually want
>>>>> pressing the side button to end a call.  That does not happen on my
>>>>> Phone.  I’ve looked in Settings under physical and Motor, but don’t see
>>>>> a
>>>>> setting there that governs that behavior.  Does anyone know how I can
>>>>> set
>>>>> my phone so that pressing the side button ends a call?
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: iPhone se22

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I upgraded from an SE 2 to an SE 3 and have no regrets. The battery
life has improved and the internals are much more reliable. I wrote
the following review after having the SE 2022 for a week or so. My
observations haven't really changed.
https://www.applevis.com/blog/iphone-se-3-more-practical-phone-some-use-cases

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> The 2022 iPhone SE is available now from t-mobile.com at significant price
> discounts, up to 50% off when financed at 0% interest over 24 months,
> according to T-Mo.
>
> Mine is arriving this afternoon with a total savings of $215 off the
> list price, according to my invoice.
>
> 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>
>> On 10/9/22 20:20, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> > Does the iPhone se22 have a faster processor than the iPhonese20? are
>> > there other significant differences?
>>
>> Yes, it has a newer processor. Note also that the 2022 edition can
>> reportedly be upgraded to iOS 16, whereas the 2020 version cannot.
>>
>> There are other differences. See
>> https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/08/compared-new-2022-iphone-se-vs-2020-iphone-se
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Re: touch typing

[Portia Scott]

Hello Lorie,

It sounds like you are experiencing something called slide to type.
You may wish to turn this off, if it is giving you issues.

1. Go into your settings app on any iOS device.
Step 2.
Go under the keyboard settings, under general.

Step 3.
Switch the “Slide to type“ button to off. It’ll be on, by default.

Hth,
Portia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> Maybe there isn't. I was just hoping. it's not a problem unless the app I'm 
> using won't let me use braille screen input which sometimes happens.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 29, 2021, at 7:24 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> I’ve noticed this as well, and that it’s just become increasingly sensitive, 
> but didn’t think there was much that could be done about it.
> 
>> On May 29, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> as the ios versions have gone up I have had increasing problems with touch 
>> typing on my phone. sometimes if I'm moving my finger around trying to find 
>> the correct letter or number I'll start getting suggestions and before I 
>> know it it's putting words in there for me and I haven't even lifted my 
>> finger off the screen. I've tried a lighter touch and that helps some but 
>> it's still a pretty pervasive problem for me. any suggestions?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Follow-up on the Mantis

[Scott Davert]

I heard a rumor that the Chameleon may be rebranded as the Brailliant
20 for those outside the U.S. who would work with a Humanware dealer.
I have no idea if it's true or not.
WHEN the new Brailliant 40 launches, HW claims in December, it is
expected to have all of the features of the Mantis, but will also have
speakers and a Perkins-style keyboard. NO idea if that will also
include speech or not.

HTH,
Scott

On 10/7/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
> Yes the 20 cell  version is called the Chamaeleon I work for the American
> printing House. It is a Perkins style input. The human wear will be selling
> it overseas I believe at some point but currently I believe it's only sold
> in America. There were talks of this happening at some point, but I'm not as
> involved as I once was with the project so sorry I knowing the details I
> would contact Humanware  to maybe speed up the process if you're
> interested.
>
>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Tali Sarnetzky 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, in most cases, they don't include pricing for these
>> devices when you find a description.
>> Take into consider, Anders, that the price might be different in
>> Sweden, or if you bring it into the country by yourself. I know this
>> from my own experience in Israel.
>>
>> On 10/7/20, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> That  does not matter for me.
>>> But it can be for some.
>>> /A
>>>
>>>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 21:31 skrev Mary Otten :
>>>>
>>>> The 20 cell version has braille input rather than typing. A dealbreaker
>>>> for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> THey should have a 20 cell version.
>>>>> /A
>>>>>
>>>>>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 20:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's really nice having a qwerty keyboard with a braille display. If
>>>>>> that's of interest, and you don't care about limitations in the
>>>>>> Editor,
>>>>>> it'd be worth checking into.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> It might be something for me then.
>>>>>>> Depends on the cost of the device.
>>>>>>> We don’t have it here in Sweden but it might be possible to buy from
>>>>>>> Humanware and then get it delivered to Sweden.
>>>>>>> Thanks anyway for reporting your issue.
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 15:46 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since we’ve had some discussions about braille displays, I thought
>>>>>>>> I’d
>>>>>>>> share the outcome of my time with the Mantis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ve had my Mantis for a couple of days now, and unfortunately, it
>>>>>>>> looks like I’ll be returning it. I wanted to share why with the
>>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>> because I thought that the issue I have may also be an issue for
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> of you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First let me say that it’s a really nice device. It’s light-weight,
>>>>>>>> the keyboard is very comfortable to type on, and the way the device
>>>>>>>> functions is very well thought-out. It is very easy to pair with an
>>>>>>>> i-device - I’m actually typing on it as I write this message. So,
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> my issue isn’t an issue for you, I recommend it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the Mantis has what for me is a fatal flaw.
>>>>>>>> Humanware
>>>>>>>> implemented a feature in the Mantis that they implement in their
>>>>>>>> othe

Mantis review

[Scott Davert]

I didn't have a Mac to test on, but covered iOS. There were some
questions on the list, so I thought I'd pass my article along to this
list.

Regards,
Scott
https://www.afb.org/aw/21/8/17143
A Review Of the Mantis Q 40 QWERTY Braille Display by APH and HumanWare
Scott Davert
In the current braille display market, most devices use a
Perkins-style keyboard. This allows for more portability and the
option of typing in contracted braille, which some people find
preferable. One of the disadvantages of a braille display with the
Perkins-style keyboard is that the individual has to learn a series of
specific commands for controlling either the display itself, or its
driving screen reader.
A device has come along to address the challenge of learning new
commands for each operating system. That device, on which I am
currently composing this article, is the Mantis Q 40. Unlike many of
its counterparts, this device comes equipped with a standard QWERTY
keyboard. It also has a set of internal applications for file
management, composing and editing documents, reading books, and
performing calculations. It also provides the option to download
Bookshare and NFB Newsline content directly to the device. Finally, it
has the capability to connect up to five Bluetooth devices
simultaneously, along with one USB connection.
What's In The Box?
Inside the box is the Mantis Q, a USB power adapter, an A to USB C
cable for charging and connecting to external devices, and a braille
and print Getting Started guide. The units shipping now also come with
a protective (TPU) case. One was not included with mine, since there
were delays due to the COVID-19 pandemic. I asked Greg Stilson, APH
Head Of Global Innovation, to describe the case, and this was his
response:
This is basically a green case that the Mantis sits in, when being
used. It covers the bottom and all edges for protection. It does not
however have a closing flap. APH does sell an optional Executive
Products case made of high quality leather for those professionals who
will be on the move a lot... TPU stands for Thermoplastic
Polyurethane. It is made up of plastic, elastic and rubber and is
extremely common in the smartphone case industry.
Orientation
Placing the Mantis on a flat surface with the braille display nearest
you, it is laid out as follows. On the front of the device, there are
a series of five buttons or “thumb keys.” From left to right, they
are: Previous, Pan Left, Home, Pan Right, and Next. The Previous thumb
key will take you to the previous item, the Pan Left button pans the
braille to the left, the Home button (which can also serve as an
Escape key) will take you Home, the Pan Right key will pan the braille
to the right, and the Next key will take you to the next item.
Along the left side of the device, the closest thing to you is a Type
A USB port, behind that is a small round Power button, and furthest
from you is the USB C port. The USB A female port is used to plug in a
flash drive to manage data. To start the device, press and hold the
Power button for about two seconds. The device takes about fifteen
seconds to start up. The Mantis will indicate “starting” on the
braille display. A progress spinner will indicate that the device is
booting until it is ready. A brief press of the Power button while on
puts it to sleep. Another brief press of the Power button wakes the
device. The USB C port is used to both charge the Mantis and also to
connect with external devices through USB. Along the back edge, you
will find a slot for SD cards. The Mantis accepts SD cards up to 64
GB.
The closest thing to you on the surface is the 40-cell display. To me,
the braille feels a lot like the BrailleNote Touch and has a slight
spongy feel to it. Behind each cell is a cursor routing button. Behind
the cursor routing buttons you will find the QWERTY keyboard. It has a
very similar layout to a laptop keyboard without the number pad. The
bottom row of keys, from left to right, are as follows: Control, FN
(function), Windows, Left Alt, Space Bar, Right Alt, Right Control,
Left Arrow, Down Arrow, and Right Arrow. Slightly above the Down Arrow
is the Up Arrow key. On a Mac or iOS device, the functions of the
bottom row are slightly different than on Windows and the internal
programs. To the left of the Spacebar, starting at the left edge are
the Control key, FN, Option, and Command keys. To the right of the
Spacebar are the Option and Right Control key.
The remaining five rows of keys reflect what is typically your QWERTY
keyboard layout on a laptop without a number pad. For more details,
you can consult the User Guide, which explains the rest of the layout
in detail.
A Familiar Interface
When you start the Mantis, you will be at the Main Menu. Just like
with Windows, you can navigate among your choices by pressing the Up
or Down Arrow keys. If you are in an application, you can press the
Windows or Home key to return to the main menu. Pressing Escape will
close 

Re: Update to Orbit Writer

[Scott Davert]

Hi Peggy.
It could be done with Narrator on Windows I expect, though I've never
run an update with Nerrorator to try an update from Orbit Research. If
your husband's computer is running Windows 10, Nerrorator does a
decent job for things like this most of the time. You can bring up
Nerrorator by pressing the Windows control, and Enter keys together.
If on an older OS, you can still try Narrator if you want, but the
command is windows with U. That said, this is Mac Visionaries, not
Windows Visionaries, so I'll leave it at that. :)

Scott

On 8/11/20, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi Candy,
>
> The thread I was talking about was on applevis.com Search for Orbit Writer
> and you should find it.
>
> On the Windows side of things, Ive been using Narrator. It sounds like that
> complicates things further with Orbit Writer.
>
> Traci
>
>
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>
>> The Orbit Writer reminds me of the old Braille and Speak. I generally
>> braille on my lap which takes some getting used to for such a small
>> keyboard. Orientation requires dots 7 and 8 be in the correct position or
>> turning on the unit does not work. I've only had my unit for a few days,
>> so I'm still in the learning curve. It works well with one device paired,
>> I haven't been able to pair with a second device, so I'm awaiting the
>> update before trying again.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Les
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Update to Orbit Writer
>>
>> Hi! A question to you who has the orbit writer. How is the device to type
>> on and how does it look? I am thinking of buying it because I would love
>> to have some thing to type on that small enough to fit in my pocket and
>> not a normal keyboard. My fingers are quite big so extremely small
>> keyboards make me go Blessings from Sweden mad.
>>> 10 aug. 2020 kl. 23:24 skrev Les Kriegler :
>>>
>>> Hi Traci,
>>> Well, I had a conversation with a representative from Orbit Research who
>>> told me the same thing you were told about an update coming soon. Right
>>> now, I have my iPhone working fairly consistently. If I power off the
>>> Orbit when I've completed my session with my phone, the next time I start
>>> IT SEEMS TO CONNECT REGULARLY NOW. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PAIR WITH A
>>> SECOND DEVICE AND WON'T TRY AT THIS point. When I have switched channels,
>>> the iPhone channel has to be set up and paired. It's a new product and
>>> since I wanted to use this primarily with my iPhone, I will keep the
>>> device and see what happens.
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:09 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; viph...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Update to Orbit Writer
>>>
>>> So a few things here. I’m following the thread on AppleVis and saw that
>>> Orbit Research posted.
>>>
>>> I have sent an email to tech support like they requested and laid out my
>>> issues and concerns.
>>>
>>> Orbit contacted me and asked questions about my steps for pairing the
>>> Orbit Writer to my devices. It seems as if I am following the
>>> instructions correctly. Orbit tech support said an update is coming soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> The thing is my 30 day window for return is drawing close. If the update
>>> isn’t here by say next Tuesday, I’ll have a decision to make.
>>>
>>> My other concern is updates can only be done via Windows. I have been
>>> reacquainting myself with the Windows environment, but I am not as
>>> proficient as I use to be.
>>>
>>> What are other users thoughts? How about those of you that are more
>>> familiar with Orbit Research?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
>>>
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Re: Mantis Q40?

[Scott Davert]

Donna.
I'll post it to the list when it is released next week. It's with the
editor now...

Scott

On 8/7/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Again, I agree. Would love to see your review.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi again Donna.
>> His review was rather quick, and the perspective of someone who is
>> more new to braille, so it's worth having. I waited about a month to
>> use the iPhone SE 2020 before I wrote my review on that. I don't
>> believe in doing too quick of a turn around time on things, 3-4 weeks
>> seems like enough time to spot things that are important that may be
>> missed during a 1 week trial period. There's always that question:
>> what's more important? A quick review that can be done immediatley, or
>> a review that involves more testing but takes longer. I tend to favor
>> the latter, though I certainly can see value in the former. Smiles.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/6/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> Agree 100%. Not sure where he got the info about the U2, but yeah, it
>>> could
>>> connect to other devices, though the keyboard didn't work as well as one
>>> would wish.
>>>
>>> Like I said, he's obviously new to AT, but I figured I'd share the
>>> review
>>> for anyone who wants to read it. I'm sure yours will be much more
>>> comprehensive,. :)
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Scott Davert 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Donna.
>>>> Thanks for posting the review. I guess that gives the reader an
>>>> overview, but it fails to answer a lot of questions a more advanced
>>>> braille user would ask. Also, the Braille Sense u2 QWERTY could
>>>> connect to an iPhone or other external device, so his assertion that
>>>> it's the first QWERTY braille device to connect to external ones is
>>>> wrong. He has a good point about beginner users of braille using it.
>>>> There's a much less steep learning curve.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>>>> At this time we are not planning on it do to licensing costs. However
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> in the bucket for future releases.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know if the MLS service will be added to the Mantis Q 40
>>>>>> library?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> behalf of Scott Davert 
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:38:22 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mantis Q40?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
>>>>>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
>>>>>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
>>>>>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
>>>>>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
>>>>>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
>>>>>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm
>>>>>> writing
>>>>>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> hearing aids.
>>>>>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
>>>>>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
>>>>>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
>>>>>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only

Re: Mantis Q40?

[Scott Davert]

Hi again Donna.
His review was rather quick, and the perspective of someone who is
more new to braille, so it's worth having. I waited about a month to
use the iPhone SE 2020 before I wrote my review on that. I don't
believe in doing too quick of a turn around time on things, 3-4 weeks
seems like enough time to spot things that are important that may be
missed during a 1 week trial period. There's always that question:
what's more important? A quick review that can be done immediatley, or
a review that involves more testing but takes longer. I tend to favor
the latter, though I certainly can see value in the former. Smiles.

Scott

On 8/6/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> Agree 100%. Not sure where he got the info about the U2, but yeah, it could
> connect to other devices, though the keyboard didn't work as well as one
> would wish.
>
> Like I said, he's obviously new to AT, but I figured I'd share the review
> for anyone who wants to read it. I'm sure yours will be much more
> comprehensive,. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Donna.
>> Thanks for posting the review. I guess that gives the reader an
>> overview, but it fails to answer a lot of questions a more advanced
>> braille user would ask. Also, the Braille Sense u2 QWERTY could
>> connect to an iPhone or other external device, so his assertion that
>> it's the first QWERTY braille device to connect to external ones is
>> wrong. He has a good point about beginner users of braille using it.
>> There's a much less steep learning curve.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> At this time we are not planning on it do to licensing costs. However it
>>> is
>>> in the bucket for future releases.
>>>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Do you know if the MLS service will be added to the Mantis Q 40
>>>> library?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> on
>>>> behalf of Scott Davert 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:38:22 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: Mantis Q40?
>>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
>>>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
>>>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
>>>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
>>>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
>>>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a
>>>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
>>>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing
>>>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new
>>>> hearing aids.
>>>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
>>>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
>>>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
>>>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only
>>>> offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service.
>>>>
>>>> Just some info,
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Traci,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Mantis supports
>>>>> MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina
>>>>> iOS 13.5.1+
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High
>>>>>> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Traci
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge >>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes 

Re: Mantis case

[Scott Davert]

Awesome, Donna. I hope it works out for you! I do not have a Mac here
to test with, so if you can please let us know how that goes for you,
I'd love your feedback. I'm about to start evaluating the qBraille and
again do not have a Mac to test with. I used to go to the local Apple
Store and conduct my tests there, but they're closed.

Scott

On 8/6/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> thanks, Scott, this is exactly what I needed. I've decided to go ahead and
> place an order, and it sounds like I should also order the Executive
> Products case.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joe and Donna.
>> I have not received my case either. My understanding from talking to
>> Greg Stilson about this is that the case which ships with the Mantis
>> does not include a cover, but something that you can set the display
>> in while using it. It's not a carrying case. If you want to carry it
>> around, you would likely want the EP case. Sorry I do not have an
>> exact answer, I have not received mine yet.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> I have seen the leather case sold by us from executive products, that is
>>> a
>>> real sweet looking notetaker type of case. I have not gotten to see the
>>> Green nylon case that comes with the product. Scott have you received
>>> yours
>>> yet? We were a little late getting them due to the situation going on in
>>> the
>>> world! So when I was doing quality control on the devices I did not get
>>> a
>>> chance to see them unfortunately. My understanding is that it's more of
>>> a
>>> cover than a full on case but I could be wrong.
>>>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 2:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi oe and Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Is the case that comes with the Mantis a carrying case or just a cover?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>>
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Re: Mantis Q40?

[Scott Davert]

I would think both the Mantis and the Chameleon would eventually
support NLS, given that Humanware is one of the companies contracted
out to provide the braille displays that will be distributed by NLS.

JMO,
Scott

On 8/6/20, Scott Davert  wrote:
> Hi Donna.
> Thanks for posting the review. I guess that gives the reader an
> overview, but it fails to answer a lot of questions a more advanced
> braille user would ask. Also, the Braille Sense u2 QWERTY could
> connect to an iPhone or other external device, so his assertion that
> it's the first QWERTY braille device to connect to external ones is
> wrong. He has a good point about beginner users of braille using it.
> There's a much less steep learning curve.
>
> Scott
>
> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> At this time we are not planning on it do to licensing costs. However it
>> is
>> in the bucket for future releases.
>>
>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> Do you know if the MLS service will be added to the Mantis Q 40 library?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Best,
>>> Les
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> on
>>> behalf of Scott Davert 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:38:22 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Mantis Q40?
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
>>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
>>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
>>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
>>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
>>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a
>>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
>>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing
>>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new
>>> hearing aids.
>>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
>>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
>>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
>>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only
>>> offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service.
>>>
>>> Just some info,
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> > Hi Traci,
>>> >
>>> > The Mantis supports
>>> > MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina
>>> > iOS 13.5.1+
>>> >
>>> > Joe
>>> >> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High
>>> >> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Traci
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge >> >>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes there but you
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> respond t a message saying you do want to join. If you have problems
>>> >>> email me at jho...@aph.org <mailto:jho...@aph.org
>>> >>> <mailto:jho...@aph.org>> with your email and I
>>> >>> will add you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Joe
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>> >>>> >> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Just FYI, I tried to subscribe to this list yesterday. I have
>>> >>>> received
>>> >>>> no confirmation of my subscription, and have not received any list
>>> >>>> email. So I don’t know if this list is actually working.
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>> Donna
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> >>>>
>>

Re: Mantis Q40?

[Scott Davert]

Hi Donna.
Thanks for posting the review. I guess that gives the reader an
overview, but it fails to answer a lot of questions a more advanced
braille user would ask. Also, the Braille Sense u2 QWERTY could
connect to an iPhone or other external device, so his assertion that
it's the first QWERTY braille device to connect to external ones is
wrong. He has a good point about beginner users of braille using it.
There's a much less steep learning curve.

Scott

On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
> At this time we are not planning on it do to licensing costs. However it is
> in the bucket for future releases.
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> Do you know if the MLS service will be added to the Mantis Q 40 library?
>> Thanks.
>> Best,
>> Les
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on
>> behalf of Scott Davert 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:38:22 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Mantis Q40?
>>
>> Hi all.
>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a
>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing
>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new
>> hearing aids.
>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only
>> offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service.
>>
>> Just some info,
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> > Hi Traci,
>> >
>> > The Mantis supports
>> > MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina
>> > iOS 13.5.1+
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High
>> >> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Traci
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge > >>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes there but you have
>> >>> to
>> >>> respond t a message saying you do want to join. If you have problems
>> >>> email me at jho...@aph.org <mailto:jho...@aph.org
>> >>> <mailto:jho...@aph.org>> with your email and I
>> >>> will add you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> >>>> > >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just FYI, I tried to subscribe to this list yesterday. I have
>> >>>> received
>> >>>> no confirmation of my subscription, and have not received any list
>> >>>> email. So I don’t know if this list is actually working.
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> Donna
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 7:51 AM, joseph hodge > >>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Kerryann,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> APH does have a list you can join to learn about the Chameleon or
>> >>>>> Mantis. Feel free to ask questions relating to the products. If you
>> >>>>> would like to join send an email to
>> >>>>> mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org
>> >>>>> <mailto:m

Re: Mantis case

[Scott Davert]

Hi Joe and Donna.
I have not received my case either. My understanding from talking to
Greg Stilson about this is that the case which ships with the Mantis
does not include a cover, but something that you can set the display
in while using it. It's not a carrying case. If you want to carry it
around, you would likely want the EP case. Sorry I do not have an
exact answer, I have not received mine yet.

Scott

On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
> I have seen the leather case sold by us from executive products, that is a
> real sweet looking notetaker type of case. I have not gotten to see the
> Green nylon case that comes with the product. Scott have you received yours
> yet? We were a little late getting them due to the situation going on in the
> world! So when I was doing quality control on the devices I did not get a
> chance to see them unfortunately. My understanding is that it's more of a
> cover than a full on case but I could be wrong.
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 2:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi oe and Scott,
>>
>> Is the case that comes with the Mantis a carrying case or just a cover?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>>
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Re: Mantis Q40?

[Scott Davert]

Hi Donna.
If you have felt the braille of the BrailleNote Touch, or even the
Apex, Iwould equate the feel of the dots to one of those devices. I
was not aware that anyone else had reviewed the Mantis yet. My review
should be in the August issue of Access World.
As for the keys, I would equate those to the BrailleNote Apex QT. The
size is also similar. The keys aren't noisy, though, it sounds about
as loud to me as any laptop would. Then again, my ears are quite
broken, so I may not be the best judge of that.

HTH,
Scott

On 8/6/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Thanks, Scott. The wifi feature sounds very cool. Do you like the braille?
> One article I read described it as mushy. Also, how is the keyboard. I
> remember the Braillenote having HUGE keys. That never made sense to me, and
> I didn't care for it.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a
>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing
>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new
>> hearing aids.
>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only
>> offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service.
>>
>> Just some info,
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> Hi Traci,
>>>
>>> The Mantis supports
>>> MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina
>>> iOS 13.5.1+
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High
>>>> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Traci
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge >>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes there but you have
>>>>> to
>>>>> respond t a message saying you do want to join. If you have problems
>>>>> email me at jho...@aph.org <mailto:jho...@aph.org> with your email and
>>>>> I
>>>>> will add you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just FYI, I tried to subscribe to this list yesterday. I have
>>>>>> received
>>>>>> no confirmation of my subscription, and have not received any list
>>>>>> email. So I don’t know if this list is actually working.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 7:51 AM, joseph hodge >>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kerryann,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> APH does have a list you can join to learn about the Chameleon or
>>>>>>> Mantis. Feel free to ask questions relating to the products. If you
>>>>>>> would like to join send an email to
>>>>>>> mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 2:27 AM, Kerryann Ifill
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m very new to

Re: Mantis Q40?

[Scott Davert]

Hi all.
I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a
Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing
from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new
hearing aids.
One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only
offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service.

Just some info,
Scott

On 8/6/20, joseph hodge  wrote:
> Hi Traci,
>
> The Mantis supports
> MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina
> iOS 13.5.1+
>
> Joe
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>
>> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High
>> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge >> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes there but you have to
>>> respond t a message saying you do want to join. If you have problems
>>> email me at jho...@aph.org <mailto:jho...@aph.org> with your email and I
>>> will add you.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just FYI, I tried to subscribe to this list yesterday. I have received
>>>> no confirmation of my subscription, and have not received any list
>>>> email. So I don’t know if this list is actually working.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 7:51 AM, joseph hodge >>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kerryann,
>>>>>
>>>>> APH does have a list you can join to learn about the Chameleon or
>>>>> Mantis. Feel free to ask questions relating to the products. If you
>>>>> would like to join send an email to
>>>>> mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org
>>>>> <mailto:mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 2:27 AM, Kerryann Ifill >>>>> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m very new to the group tough I’ve had a Mac for some years now.
>>>>>> I’m about to purchase the Chameleon as I prefer compact sized displays
>>>>>> and my old Varioultra20 is indicating that it wants to go to the big
>>>>>> braille display bin in the sky!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m looking forward to learning more about t the product and will
>>>>>> hopefully love this unit as much as my other 2 displays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 Aug 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hear you! I've always loved the idea of having a braille display
>>>>>>> with a qwerty keyboard to use with my phone or iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not thrilled about the price, but I don't think you can get 40 cells
>>>>>>> for less. The Focus is actually $500 more.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Traci Duncan >>>>>>> <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This isn't helpful, but doesn’t that display look awesome. *Laughs
>>>>

Re: MacBook 2014 upgrades.

[trevor scott]

The Mac I a writing this message is on is a 2012 Macbook pro with Catalina on 
it and it works perfectly well.

Trevor

> On 19 Jul 2020, at 22:41, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am helping somebody who owns a MacBook Air 2014 with Leopard on it. If they 
> upgrade to Catalina, will the system perform OK, or should I find a Snow 
> Leopard installer for them. The App Store does present Catalina on the first 
> page as an upgrade option, but I have no idea if it will just be a drag to 
> use.
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

[trevor scott]

I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your download 
has finished except when your downloading?



> On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when 
> you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
>> the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
>> intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
>> progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
>> movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
>>> folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar 
>>> but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to 
>>> interact with the downloads table and manage that way?
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
 table to monitor downloads.
 
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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download 
> as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening,
>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
>> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out 
>> last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to 
>> approve downloads from domains.
>> Good luck!
>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
>> understand what I’m trying to say.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
>>> have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I 
>>> get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might 
>>> be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

[trevor scott]

the way I do it is;
command option l, then it says clear.  Tab once and you get the downloads, tab 
once more and that’s where you find ou whether it has downloaded or not.
If it says stop then it is still downloading and if it says show in finder then 
it is finished.
If you VO right arrow to the right a few times it should tell you how much it 
it has downloaded so far.

Also, if you don’t want it to download to downloads, you can go to Safari and
command comma to preferences and change a lot of things and one of them is 
where you want to download to.

Cheers 

Trevor
on 25 Jun 2020, at 00:36, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I can still get that if you mean the clicking sound that happens when a file 
> is downloading. you press command-option-l. then I hear "clear downloads". it 
> sounds like a command, like you're in history or something but actually you 
> can vo-shift right or left and you have downloads and clear. interact with 
> downloads then find the particular download that's happening at the moment 
> and interact with that. then you get your progress indicator. at least that's 
> the way it is in Mojave.
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> When I got my first Mac in 2010 it was snow leopard.  I remember when I 
>> started downloading things, you could interact with the download viewer and 
>> you could hear the sound of the software downloading.  Those were the days.  
>> I like the sound of software installing although they have taken the classic 
>> sound of the software downloading away or it’s not as pronounced as before.  
>> Something which you would not get in windows.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 23:17, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
>>> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last 
>>> year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve 
>>> downloads from domains.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
>>> understand what I’m trying to say.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have 
 gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get 
 things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a 
 focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
 
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Re: Can I extract audio from a YouTube video? Please read below?

[trevor scott]

Thanks for this,
it is great and very easy to use.

Thanks again,

Trevor

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 04:53, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes you can.
> 
> I use an application called YouTube to MP3 Converter, from Media Human.  The 
> basic version is free and is available for both MacOS and Windows.
> I have used it to convert YouTube content to both MP3 and M4A formats.
> 
> Check it out at the link below:
> 
> https://www.mediahuman.com/youtube-to-mp3-converter/ 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2020, at 20:27, maurice mines  > wrote:
> 
> Hello, I found a YouTube that has audio that I like what I want to do is find 
> a way to make an audio file out of that audio. Is there a way to download a 
> YouTube video to one’s machine then extract the outer? Can this even be done?
> 
> A friend sent me a link to some software that appears to do it however the 
> software is command line number one and it appears one needs Python and one 
> of the UNIX utility to run. And it’s intent is for new next users. Which I 
> think would cause problems with OS X security. Any thoughts?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: Mail has no windows

[trevor scott]

And command n will renew the email folders as well.

Trevor

> On 24 Oct 2019, at 21:01, Junior Lolley  wrote:
> 
> Paul, I had the same problem I just did a command option n and it worked.
> 
>   
> 
> 
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> Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
> "The 3 C's of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to 
> take a chance or your life will never change."
> Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.
> NEVER LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE UNLESS YOU ARE HELPING THEM UP
> There are plenty of difficult obstacles in your path. Don't allow yourself to 
> become one of them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Paul Hopewell > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> I am running the latest level of Catalina. Apple mail keeps saying Mail has 
>> no Windows so I cannot see any inbound mail. I have tried shutting down and 
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Re: Flatbed Scanner and OCR Program Recommendations

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I would still like to know what scanner and OCR program you use.  Running a 
virtual machine seems like more complexity than I want to use.
Marshall


> On Jul 3, 2019, at 4:06 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
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> Hi, personally I would not do any scanning with in the mac system,
> have a study where reading huge books is a must for me , and the best
> I have found so far is a book scanner, and windows running in a vm on
> the mac.
> It all depends on what you need it for of course , scanning a few
> pages, or a few hundred?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/1/19, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries
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>> I'm phasing out my Windows 7 OCR program and the associated flatbed scanner.
>> What are people using on the Mac to replace these items?
>> Thanks,
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Flatbed Scanner and OCR Program Recommendations

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Hi,
I'm phasing out my Windows 7 OCR program and the associated flatbed scanner.  
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Re: PCloud Was Re: Dropbox Changes

[Scott Berry]

Hi there,


Please navigate to the Settings and in there should be a checkbox for 
copying a link and if that is checked then it will be in the contextual 
menu.




On 4/15/2019 7:49 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote:
That's the problem. That option isn't showing up in the contextual 
menus at all.



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:17 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:



Hi,
Select a file,
When you press VO+Shift+M,
there will be a option to copy download link.


On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:08 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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Hey guys. So I just installed PCloud on my Mac. I'm about ready to 
dump my Dropbox because of all the stupid things that they're doing. 
I'm just running into a big snag however. I just put a file in the 
PCloud Drive folder and I want to share a link to the file with 
someone. However, there's no option to do so. What do I have to do 
to make this app run properly? Thanks.


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On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.

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On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to 
different folders etc?

I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which 
platform since iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 
devices here. The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.

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On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Donna,

Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for 
another

storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
copying transferring files & folders.

Andrew

On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries


> wrote:

Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
Donna



On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries


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Hi,

There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
 There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.

Later...

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


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  Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
(which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only 
be an

issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.

  So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
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Re: Streaming netflicks on a macbook?

[trevor scott]

If you can’t record straight from NetFlicks on the mac, I think you should be 
able to do it with an app called LoopBack.
However, don’t quote me on that, I haven’t tried it out but, I don’t see why 
you shouldn’t record it from NetFlicks to any recording app you have on your 
mac.

Trevor

> On 27 Dec 2018, at 22:17, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> ok cool. thanks. i will then. i will do that. im just well thinking about 
> recording, from netflicks too, so if i did, how do you record on a mac from 
> netflicks? can I do that?
> shirley
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Sarah Massengale 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Streaming netflicks on a macbook?
>> 
>> Honestly, if you do this you’re just complicating things for yourself.  
>> Netflix is a little tricky to navigate, but it is doable.  I’d honestly just 
>> stick the using the TV.
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Shirley Healy >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah! I suppose so! But is it hard to navigate the website on the mac? I 
>>> just thought the apple tv would be easier to navigate! But I have a tv, I 
>>> can use that I guess, I was just wondering really if it was possible to do 
>>> this.
>>> shirley
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 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Streaming netflicks on a macbook?
 
 Not sure why you’d want to do that, when you can just watch Netflix in a 
 browser on your mac.
 
 Sarah
 
 
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> Can I plug an apple tv into my macbook pro? Is that possible? To stream 
> net flicks using my mac? Instead of a tv, any ideas?
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Re: A couple of mac questions

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Thank you Matthew,

Very much appreciated.

Trevor

> On 20 Dec 2018, at 18:21, matthew dyer  
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> Hi,
> 
> First off,  to go back a page in safari press cmd+{.  Second, to got to the 
> top or bottom of a message list, use cmd+up arrow to go to the top or 
> cmd+Opsion down arrow to go to the bottom.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
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> Subject: A couple of mac questions
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> I have been using a MacBook pro for a few years now but I mainly use it for 
> recording in Logic Pro x.
>   So, if anyone could help please, I would like firstly to know how when 
> you are in a web page, how do you go back to the previous page?
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A couple of mac questions

[trevor scott]

I have been using a MacBook pro for a few years now but I mainly use it for 
recording in Logic Pro x.
So, if anyone could help please, I would like firstly to know how when 
you are in a web page, how do you go back to the previous page?
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your messages.

Thank you,

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Re: Photos App And VoiceOver

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Hi,

the easiest method is to use iCloud Photo Sharing.  When using iCloud Photo 
Sharing, your photos are shared between the iPhone, the Mac and iCloud with one 
library.  So, creating albums on one, creates the album on all locations.  It 
is a very slick operation.  The main concern though would be iCloud storage 
space.  A 50 GB storage allowance would likely keep around 10,000 photos.  If 
you went with this option, you would just need to enable iCloud Photo Library 
on both the Mac and iPhone and the photos would auto-populate your Mac with no 
interaction on your part.

If you'd like more detailed instructions, let me know.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Sep 28, 2018, at 14:50, Pete De Vasto mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a lot of photos on my iPhone that I’d like to offload onto my Mac mini. 
If anyone has been able to successfully do this, I’d like to know how. I’m 
still fairly new to Mac after being a long-time Windows user, so hope this 
isn’t too elementary a question. I’ve gone into the Photos app but can’t seem 
to find a good way to at least get VO to identify the images. If there’s any 
write-up on using Photos with VoiceOver, that would be helpful.

Thanks,
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Mojavi & EPub books

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Hi,
Has anyone had any problems reading EPub books in Mojavi?
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Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

['Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries]

Try navigating up from the bottom of the page or searching for something 
specific in the web page.  Also try using Google Chrome rather than Safari.
Marshall


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> 
>> Could you be more specific about “navigating around the problem area”? 
>> Everything freezes, and I have to wait for a few seconds up to a couple of 
>> minutes before I hear a click and “VoiceOver on,” . . . and then if I 
>> attempt again the task I was attempting, again, and again, and again, ad 
>> nauseam.
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:49 PM, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries 
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>> The only thing I can suggest is to try to navigate around the problem area.  
>> I realize this isn't of much help.  The only other thing I can think of is 
>> for everyone who has this issue to call Apple Accessibility every time it 
>> happens.  Unfortunately, this might have undesirable consequences in terms 
>> of support.
>> Marshall
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Christine Grassman  
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>>> I have tried everything: cleaning out unnecessary files, doing a disk 
>>> utility first aid check, PRAM and SMC, numerous reboots: no matter what web 
>>> browser I use, no matter how close to my router I am, no matter what I do, 
>>> whenever I perform searches, try to fill anything out, read through 
>>> headings or other information, busy becomes a monster and is costing 
>>> literally taking hours out of my days to complete the simplest tasks to 
>>> more involved ones.
>>> Is there a darn thing I can do, and/or is there something visiting the 
>>> Genius Bar might accomplish?
>>> Christine
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Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

['Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries]

The only thing I can suggest is to try to navigate around the problem area.  I 
realize this isn't of much help.  The only other thing I can think of is for 
everyone who has this issue to call Apple Accessibility every time it happens.  
Unfortunately, this might have undesirable consequences in terms of support.
Marshall


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> first aid check, PRAM and SMC, numerous reboots: no matter what web browser I 
> use, no matter how close to my router I am, no matter what I do, whenever I 
> perform searches, try to fill anything out, read through headings or other 
> information, busy becomes a monster and is costing literally taking hours out 
> of my days to complete the simplest tasks to more involved ones.
> Is there a darn thing I can do, and/or is there something visiting the Genius 
> Bar might accomplish?
> Christine
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SHIPT Grocery delivery

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Hi,
Has anyone tried SHIPT grocery delivery service?  If so,, what do you think?
Thanks,
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Re: Issues with the latest version of Cloud on my Mac.

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Firstly, you need to unlink your accounts.  Then you need to download the 
newest version and to relink your accounts it will go through a tutorial just 
hit the right arrow button about 5 or 6 times after putting in your username 
and password.  This should do the trick.  If not then you need to take screen 
shots of what’s going on and send that to:

supp...@pcloud.com <mailto:supp...@pcloud.com> and they are pretty responsive 
and do well with tech support.



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> I have whichever the latest version is, which I downloaded this passed 
> Friday.  How do I tell it to run that?
>  It didn’t ask me to run anything, just popped up several text fields that I 
> had to navigate a lot to even figure out what they displayed, then the usual 
> “continue,” buttons, and that’s all.
>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
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>> Hey Jessica,
>> 
>> The first question might seem very simple but it’s the most important.  Do 
>> you have version 3.6.3 as that has a new SSL certificate and it is mandatory 
>> that you must run that version?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:29 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>>> I’ve just noticed after updated to the latest version of PCloud, that all 
>>> of a sudden, it was no longer asking for my password, and displaying 
>>> “PCloud has no windows,” message when I launched the application.  I’ve 
>>> gone into the activity manager and both quit and force quit the process, 
>>> and uninstalled and reinstalled the application multiple tines along with 
>>> deleting and emptying everything from the trash and starting over with a 
>>> new instalation, but nothing worked.
>>> Has anyone else had this issue?  I really didn’t want to even have to 
>>> update it, sense nothing was wrong with the version I was using, until 
>>> Thursday night, when I was trying to connect to it, and it was trying to 
>>> tell me I had no interection, which was a lie; I had perfectly good 
>>> internet connection, because I was reading my e-mail while trying to upload 
>>> stuff to PCloud itself.
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Re: Issues with the latest version of Cloud on my Mac.

[Scott Berry]

Hey Jessica,

The first question might seem very simple but it’s the most important.  Do you 
have version 3.6.3 as that has a new SSL certificate and it is mandatory that 
you must run that version?



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> no windows,” message when I launched the application.  I’ve gone into the 
> activity manager and both quit and force quit the process, and uninstalled 
> and reinstalled the application multiple tines along with deleting and 
> emptying everything from the trash and starting over with a new instalation, 
> but nothing worked.
>  Has anyone else had this issue?  I really didn’t want to even have to update 
> it, sense nothing was wrong with the version I was using, until Thursday 
> night, when I was trying to connect to it, and it was trying to tell me I had 
> no interection, which was a lie; I had perfectly good internet connection, 
> because I was reading my e-mail while trying to upload stuff to PCloud itself.
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Re: Word Processing on the mac

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Hello there,

There are a couple of good ones.  You of course have your Microsoft products 
which are now very accessible.  You also have Nisus Writer which can be found 
at:

www.nisus.com .  They are great people and very 
responsive if one needs help.



> On Apr 4, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Hello folks,
> What accessible word processors do you recommend for the mac?  This is 
> particularly for writing papers with paragraph styles, headings, footnotes, 
> etc.  Trying to find an accessible straightforward easy to use word 
> processor.  Thanks,
> Brian
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Owners to contact me please

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Can an owner contact me at scottbb1...@icloud.com?  It concerns a question.


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Re: A few Mac and iOS braille display questions

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I didn’t realize the Baum was in bank raptly.  Wow!

 

> On Mar 29, 2018, at 1:22 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hello,
>> 
>> I took a quick gander at that article you sent along.  What you need to
>> ensure is that you have the latest firmware it’s kind of quirky in the old
>> firmware they say.  If your using 1.40 then you should have better success.
>> Also you need to ensure your connected to the appropriate channel to make
>> this happen.  So you need to press s2 which should be on the left side and
>> then the number of the channel that the IOS is associated with.  Does this
>> help at all?
>> 
> 
> It would help if I had a Baum VarioUltra, but mine is a much older SuperVario
> 40. I'm considering entering the market for a new display - one that offers a
> braille keyboard, but I haven't decided what to buy yet. VarioUltra is not
> currently an option, as the company is in bankruptcy protection.
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Re: A few Mac and iOS braille display questions

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Hello,

I took a quick gander at that article you sent along.  What you need to ensure 
is that you have the latest firmware it’s kind of quirky in the old firmware 
they say.  If your using 1.40 then you should have better success.  Also you 
need to ensure your connected to the appropriate channel to make this happen.  
So you need to press s2 which should be on the left side and then the number of 
the channel that the IOS is associated with.  Does this help at all?



> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> Scott Berry  wrote:
> v> See my responses below your question please.
>> d 
>>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 7:10 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a few braille questions that have arisen recently:
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to operate an iOS device from a Bluetooth-connected braille 
>>> display without having to take the iPhone or iPad out and unlock it? That 
>>> is, can the braille display access an iOS device while it’s on the lock 
>>> screen?
>>> 
>> 
>> Absolutely not however this may be something possible.  I’ll ask them if 
>> they can do something like this it’s a great feature suggestion.
>> 
> 
> This article claims that VarioUltra displays can unlock mobile devices:
> http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pubnew.asp?DocID=aw190104
> 
> However, Baum is unfortunately in bankruptcy protection at the moment, so
> these devices are currently unavailable. I have not tried one of the recently
> released VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus displays (5th generation) with iOS, but
> they do have multiple Bluetooth channels.
>> 
>>> I’ve also noticed on the Mac recently that, sometimes, the braille display 
>>> shows the title of a window and is not updated, even though the speech 
>>> continues to track the focus and to respond to VoiceOver commands as I 
>>> interact with an application. Meanwhile, the braille display is not 
>>> refreshed at all. Have others seen this? I’m running High Siera.
>>> 
>> 
>> So my question to you may be this:  How are your cursors set in the 
>> Voiceover preferences?  You may find this out by doing VO plus f8.  If you 
>> can also get this info to me that would be great along with the type of 
>> braille display.  It’s also possible that you may need a firmware update but 
>> I’d need to confirm this by looking at the braille display web site.
> 
> I'll check at home tonight when I'm in front of the Mac.
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Re: A few Mac and iOS braille display questions

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I have found the drivers for your version do you have access to a Windows 
computer and also may I have you email me privately at scottbb1...@icloud.com 
and I’ll send those drivers to you.



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> Scott Berry  wrote:
>> What braille display in particular are you using and I may be better able to
>> answer the second question for you?  
> 
> 
> Baum SuperVario 40 (the version distributed by HumanWare under the
> "Brailliant" name in 2004-2005 - actually a rebranded Baum SuperVario 
> display).
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Re: A few Mac and iOS braille display questions

[Scott Berry]

One other question can you please provide me with the actual software version 
number and I will be able to assist even more but I’ll start looking.

you currently hav

> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:11 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> Scott Berry  wrote:
>> What braille display in particular are you using and I may be better able to
>> answer the second question for you?  
> 
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> Baum SuperVario 40 (the version distributed by HumanWare under the
> "Brailliant" name in 2004-2005 - actually a rebranded Baum SuperVario 
> display).
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Re: A few Mac and iOS braille display questions

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See my responses below your question please.

> On Mar 29, 2018, at 7:10 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> Just a few braille questions that have arisen recently:
> 
> Is there a way to operate an iOS device from a Bluetooth-connected braille 
> display without having to take the iPhone or iPad out and unlock it? That is, 
> can the braille display access an iOS device while it’s on the lock screen?
> 

Absolutely not however this may be something possible.  I’ll ask them if they 
can do something like this it’s a great feature suggestion.


> I’ve also noticed on the Mac recently that, sometimes, the braille display 
> shows the title of a window and is not updated, even though the speech 
> continues to track the focus and to respond to VoiceOver commands as I 
> interact with an application. Meanwhile, the braille display is not refreshed 
> at all. Have others seen this? I’m running High Siera.
> 

So my question to you may be this:  How are your cursors set in the Voiceover 
preferences?  You may find this out by doing VO plus f8.  If you can also get 
this info to me that would be great along with the type of braille display.  
It’s also possible that you may need a firmware update but I’d need to confirm 
this by looking at the braille display web site.


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Re: A few Mac and iOS braille display questions

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What braille display in particular are you using and I may be better able to 
answer the second question for you?  There is also a possible bug so I’ll watch 
for it.  I also know that some Freedom Scientific Focus bluetooth braille 
displays are again not working on the Mac computers again.  Jut as a side note.



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> Hi,
> 
> I don't actually have a Braille device to confirm, but if it is connected via 
> Bluetooth, I expect that the Braille display would wake the iOS device.  
> After waking, navigate to the Unlock button, tap it, then use Braille input 
> to enter the Pass-Code.  You should be able to navigate freely beyond that.  
> If you meant that you'd like to have the iOS device remain locked while doing 
> your thing, I don't believe that is possible.
> 
> Sorry, I'm not able to help any with your second question.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
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> Just a few braille questions that have arisen recently:
> 
> Is there a way to operate an iOS device from a Bluetooth-connected braille 
> display without having to take the iPhone or iPad out and unlock it? That is, 
> can the braille display access an iOS device while it’s on the lock screen?
> 
> I’ve also noticed on the Mac recently that, sometimes, the braille display 
> shows the title of a window and is not updated, even though the speech 
> continues to track the focus and to respond to VoiceOver commands as I 
> interact with an application. Meanwhile, the braille display is not refreshed 
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What time is the educational program on

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Hello there,

What time is the Apple educational program supposed to be on today?  Is it the 
normal 10:00 A.M> Mountain time?


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Re: Medical Tasksheets app

[Scott Berry]

Vaughn,

I am very aware of this.  It needs to be something that is easy though if your 
going to be that busy.



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> Greetings,
> 
> This is proving to be an interesting conversation; I think this should
> remain active as exploring accessibility is how job opportunities are
> opened for us.
> 
> Scott, I'll email you privately for brain storming.
> 
> David, I am very interested in the 2nd option. Using Claro PDF Pro,
> can you check boxes within a document by tapping on it, then using a
> finger or stylus to sign it? I'm more concerned about finding a way to
> mark the tasks such as:
> 
> Performed grocery shopping
> Bathing
> Doctor's appointment
> 
> And I want to check the ones done for that client.
> 
> I am taking all ideas into consideration. Remember, the client has to
> sign the sheet, too, not just the care provider..
> Thanks,
> Vaughn
> 
> On 2/26/18, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> Yes, there are a couple ways of doing this.
>> 
>> 1) Create a graphic image file of one's signature. This can then be placed
>> into a pages or word document, or a numbers or excel spreadsheet.
>> 
>> 2) Claro PDF Pro is accessable. Convert the document into PDF and import it
>> to Claro PDF Pro. In order to actually sign, VO must be turned off for the
>> actual signing, so a sighted person will need to assist with placement of
>> the stylus. In this case, I suggest an iPad Pro for the apple Pencil
>> support. Apple Pencil allows one to touch the display whilst writing on it.
>> 
>> I use both methods for my job.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 27 Feb 2018, at 01:51, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
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>>> Hello Listers!
>>> 
>>> I am interviewing for home care provider jobs. Part of the job is
>>> filling out and signing a task sheet for each client. Traditionally
>>> this is done on a hard copy sheet of paper where the care provider
>>> uses a check mark by each task completed for the shift, then the
>>> client and provider signs it. I know that there are a lot of digital
>>> means of doing this -- from receipts at dinners to nurses. I am
>>> wondering if there is such a Voiceover friendly app that can be used
>>> on an iPhone. And if not, any ideas who would be interested in
>>> developing one?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vaughn
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Re: Medical Tasksheets app

[Scott Berry]

> Vaughn,

I am getting ready to graduate as a Medical Office Assistant and I have not 
seen any apps like this?  I might have a little time to work on this app.  Send 
me exactly what you need in a well detailed document to scottbb1...@gmail.com 
and I’ll see what I can do.


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> uses a check mark by each task completed for the shift, then the
> client and provider signs it. I know that there are a lot of digital
> means of doing this -- from receipts at dinners to nurses. I am
> wondering if there is such a Voiceover friendly app that can be used
> on an iPhone. And if not, any ideas who would be interested in
> developing one?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Downloading a PDF from the Internet

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Hello there

Try using command left arrow and see if that doesn’t take you back otherwise it 
will be command W that might take you to the last webpage might’ve opened a 
window

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi all:
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> I need to download some manuals using safari, when I press VO-Space on
> a pdf, it opens it, and I press export to PDF, to get it on my
> computer, but, don't kno whow I can go out from this manual and go
> back to my web page that I was browsing.
> Thanks
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Re: braille edge is slow

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Diana,

If no one else answers I’ll take a look at the manual and see if I can come up 
with an answer for you.



> On Feb 15, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
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> Hello guys, can somebody explain me how to type faster on the braille edge, 
> it seems to recognize the letters four seconds later after pressing the 
> buttons. can i use the cable too? because it seems i won’t connect with the 
> cable. i just bought it 2 days ago. thanks i advance
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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

[Scott Davert]

I agree with Tim. My snarky comment aside, I'm afraid this just isn't
going to happen. In the view of many, the headphone jack is a step
backward, not forward. While there are things like Bluetooth
transmitters that you could pair that can be hooked in to something
with a 3.5 MM jack, it requires the purchase of more stuff. Though the
sound quality of the Homepod is great from what I can tell, the
absence of a headphone jack was one of the things that turned me off
to it. Further, as already mentioned, there is no direct support for
other music streaming services which are available through other
devices on the market such as the Echo, Sonos, and Google platforms.
yes, you can certainly Airplay your iPhone using spotify or whatever
other music you have on your iPhone, but you cannot, for example, ask
Siri to play something specific from Spotify and have it be
successful. If you are an Apple Music subscriber and want something
with fantastic sound and do not mind using Airplay, though, the
HomePod certainly seems to fit that bill well. I'm also sure it will
improve when updates are released to include stereo sound and
multi-room support. I also will not be getting one, as it doesn't fit
my use case.

Just my thoughts,
Scott

On 2/15/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As mentioned by others, there's no need to have Apple Music.  You should be
> able to play music from your iPod via AirPlay to the HomePod wirelessly,
> thus, playing your music from the exact playlists and such that reside on
> the iPod itself.  Regarding the inclusion of a 3.5 mm jack, I would bet big
> money that you'll never see such an animal on the HomePod, it just doesn't
> fit the use model that Apple has for the HomePod.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
> to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
> the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
> and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that
> it
> does not have such a port.
>
> Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
> permit legacy-device attachments.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mark
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Re: 3-Finger Quadruple Tap

[Scott Davert]

The other option is to use the text selection rotor options and then
go to edit and select copy. Then do the same with paste. Either way
you slice it, this will be a multistep process.

Scott

On 2/15/18, John JD Denning  wrote:
> The reasonable solution from Apple would be a verbosity setting that doesn’t
> read element labels. There are times that I would turn the reading of them
> off. Like reading lots of emails that I just want to read from start to
> finish and they have so many tables just to place their graphics in. I would
> love to just read through without all that information but then be able to
> turn it back on easily when I need it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 23:55, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>
>> I appreciate the responses to this inquiry, but that procedure is terribly
>> inconvenient.  It would be helpful if Apple were able to offer a toggle to
>> silence the inclusion of element labels so this gesture could copy only
>> the desired information into the paste-board.
>>
>> Now, I fully understand that this likely will not happen.  Software
>> design, implementation and testing activity would probably prove too
>> costly, but one can always dream; right?
>>
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he
>> resents."
>> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
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Re: Claimed bug in Macintosh Safari.

[Scott Berry]

We do need to file that with accessibility since it’s been an outstanding bug 
Jonathan.



> On Jan 30, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks do you think we should push Apple Accessibility on this? This has 
> to do with Popup boxes where multiple items can be selected. I haven't tried 
> out this specific widget but Brian writes these widgets using HTML5+ARIA so 
> that there are W3C standards backing his models.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Bryan Garaventa > >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Examples of comboboxes supporting multiple selected
>> options
>> Date: January 30, 2018 at 8:43:24 PM EST
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List > >
>> Reply-To: WebAIM Discussion List > >
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Actually you are encountering a bug in Safari
>> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167680 
>>  
>> This has been a bug in Safari for years, it would be nice if Apple would 
>> finally get around to fixing it. I remember first mentioning this to them 
>> back in 2012.
>> 
>> In regard to Chrome, Chrome is not a browser that is best supported in 
>> combination with mainstream screen readers, especially in regard to complex 
>> interactive ARIA widget constructs.
>> 
>> The following is an editable version of the same functionality, which is 
>> more applicable to your email analogy.
>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Comboboxes/ARIA%20Comboboxes%20(Native%20Inputs,%20Multiselect%20Editable%20with%20Substring%20Match)/demo.htm
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The following steps were tested using JAWS2018 and NVDA in IE11, Firefox, 
>> and Chrome Canary, and aside from issues where NVDA is not announcing live 
>> regions properly nor the correct selected state in IE11, nor is JAWS 
>> announcing live regions properly in Chrome, all of them are functionally 
>> accessible regardless.
>> 
>> 1. Open the test page above with JAWS or NVDA running in either IE11, 
>> Firefox, or Chrome Canary.
>> 
>> 2. Set focus into the editable Combobox, and type "hu".
>> 
>> 3. After the autopopulated list appears, press the Down arrow to enter the 
>> dropdown list, then press Up and Down to move within the filtered results 
>> and press the Spacebar to check the desired options.
>> 
>> 4. Press Enter to save your selections, then type "sci" in the edit field to 
>> bring up a new list of search results.
>> 
>> 5. Press Down to enter the dropdown and move up and down within the list and 
>> press the Spacebar to check your desired authors, then press the Tab key to 
>> save your selections and move to the next element in the tab order, which is 
>> the Clear button.
>> 
>> You can see your selections within a list below the buttons. When using JAWS 
>> in Chrome, it may be necessary to press Insert+Escape to refresh the virtual 
>> buffer because it is not updating properly when dynamic content changes 
>> occur at times, which is a JAWS bug.
>> 
>> 
>> Bryan Garaventa
>> Accessibility Fellow
>> Level Access, Inc.
>> bryan.garave...@levelaccess.com 
>> 415.624.2709 (o)
>> www.LevelAccess.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto:webaim-forum-boun...@list.webaim.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Sean Curtis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:32 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Examples of comboboxes supporting multiple selected 
>> options
>> 
>> Hi Bryan,
>> 
>> I tried the whatsock version out in both Chrome and Safari using Voiceover, 
>> but while the component communicated open state, moving through suggestions 
>> and selecting them did not work. Is this due to poor support by VO, the 
>> browsers, or a combination of both?
>> 
>> I tried
>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Comboboxes/ARIA%20Comboboxes%20(Native%20Inputs,%20Multiselect%20Editable%20with%20Substring%20Match)/demo.htm
>> as well but ran into the same issue. The example you linked to does list the 
>> selected values on the page, but these can't be cleared out without 
>> searching for them in the list first.
>> 
>> The combobox style most commonly used is like the "Contributors (async)"
>> example on https://jedwatson.github.io/react-select/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Bryan Garaventa < 
>> bryan.garave...@levelaccess.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> This implementation combines the ARIA Combobox design pattern plus the 
>>> checkable ARIA Listbox patterns to accomplish this accessibly.
>>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Comboboxes/ARIA%
>>> 20Comboboxes%20(Simulated,%20Readonly%20Multiselect)/demo.htm
>>> 
>>> This is in

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

[Marshall Scott]

> Marshall

> Hi, Folks,
I hope you are reporting this issue to Apple Accessibility.  I had a similar 
problem a couple of weeks ago and after spending some time on the phone with 
them, the Apple person was able to reproduce the problem.  Something in the 
website (Audible) was using up 100 percent in Voiceover.  Since the Apple 
person reproduced the problem, it probably went directly to Apple Engineering 
and hopefully will be fixed.

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:08 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Emrah,
> 
> I half to do this periodically with my Avid Pro tools box.
> It definitely clears "VoiceOver's" throat! ;)
> Talk soon
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Chuck,
>> I just went ahead and executed on your instructions. I don't know if it's 
>> just a placebo effect, but I'm already feeling some improvement without 
>> rebooting. Haven't done much yet, but if this really has solved my major 
>> issues, I'll be so very grateful to you. Seriously, it's a life-savor tip 
>> there.
>> Thanks a million!
>> Emrah
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 8:13 PM, CHUCK REICHEL >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Emrah,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting 
>>> the Caches folder.
>>> This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :)
>>> Basic steps below;
>>> To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up 
>>> Finder first. 
>>> 
>>> With Voiceover on, you can press V O D, and it should default to Finder. 
>>> Then press V O Space. 
>>> 
>>> Once Finder is the focused application, press V O M to get to the menu bar, 
>>> then V O Right until you reach the Go menu. In the Go menu, select Go To 
>>> Folder. 
>>> 
>>> The location is ~/Library
>>> 
>>> Once you’ve typed that in, press Return. 
>>> 
>>> In the Library folder, you can select the Caches folder and then press 
>>> Command Delete to move it to trash. 
>>> 
>>> I recommend restarting the computer after you do this.
>>> HTH
>>> Chuck
>>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Anouk,
 Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying 
 to get to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then 
 saw your message.
 Indeed, Mail is also a pain.
 I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different 
 account. What I did though, is make sure that nothing was launching 
 unnecessarily, including the stuff that gets in the Library folders, and 
 the processor is pretty stable.
 Is VoiceOver not multithreading?
 
 Jonathan, good call on the cursor tracking. I'll look into experimenting 
 with that as well.
 
 Emrah
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Anouk Radix  > wrote:
> 
> I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated.
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of 
>> the OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when 
>> creating a temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. 
>> This is a good way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a 
>> configuration issue. Note there are some websites that push so much junk 
>> around in JS that the Macintosh can't keep track of what is where. This 
>> can especially be the case for Group mode where VoiceOver has some idea 
>> of what is is played out where. 
>> 
>> Another place you can run into trouble is Facebook if navigating bia the 
>> VoiceOver keystrokes instead of the FB  recognized keys. ) Generally on 
>> sites that VoiceOver does not work well for me, I will turn off Cursor 
>> tracking and then make sure to use route functions for entering data. In 
>> fact, I think I will reassign the numbed enter key to be "route keyboard 
>> focus to voiceover cursor". This way I can quickly move focus but still 
>> keep the cursor tracking off. Though this might still have some problems 
>> with vo-shift-M or vo-space.
>> 
>> 
>> On 17 January 2018 at 05:30, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 
>> 8gb of ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail.
>> I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY 
>> sluggish.
>> And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse 
>> then what it used to be.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>> > On 17 Jan 2018, at 10:26, Emrah > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi good people,
>> > I'm seriously starting to lose i

Re: mac partition questiohn

[Marshall Scott]

Why don't you call Apple accessibility support at (877) 204-3930.  They may be 
able to help.
Marshall


> On Jan 15, 2018, at 11:45 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> yes of course
> how big should the recovery partition be?
> surely not 127 gigs?
> 
> On 1/13/2018 11:01 AM, Marshall Scott wrote:
>> Have you taken the recovery partition into account?
>> Marshall
>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 10:13 PM, The wolf  wrote:
>>> Hello yes I am using High Sierra
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 10:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>You are running High Sierra? If the drive is not an SSD then you are 
>>>> probably using macOS extended. Mine is formatted to APFS so the partition 
>>>> tab is different. So I am not sure what you should look for.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/12/2018 7:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>> will give that a shot
>>>>> 
>>>>> is there anything that I should be looking out for?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/12/2018 8:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>>>Off list. Since I have not had this problem, perchance you can go 
>>>>>> into the partition tab and see if you can address this there. Just a 
>>>>>> guess that you somehow "lost" 125gigs in there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 5:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> disk aid was one of the verry first things that I tried running
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 6:03 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>>>>>Too many things going on over here. So you are missing 125g. Have 
>>>>>>>> you run First Aid?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 4:56 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 250 gb capasity
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> minus 125 gigs for the intire mac partition=
>>>>>>>>> 125 gigs
>>>>>>>>> there is still
>>>>>>>>> 125 gigs that should be free
>>>>>>>>> is thismaking any sense?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 5:46 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hank,
>>>>>>>>>>Go to Finder, do a command shift c to bring up the drives, do a 
>>>>>>>>>> command i on the drive and tell me what the 3 numbers are. Capacity, 
>>>>>>>>>> available and used.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 4:40 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac book should show a capasity
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> of 250 gigs
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>&g

Re: mac partition questiohn

[Marshall Scott]

Have you taken the recovery partition into account?
Marshall
On Jan 12, 2018, at 10:13 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> Hello yes I am using High Sierra
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/12/2018 10:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>You are running High Sierra? If the drive is not an SSD then you are 
>> probably using macOS extended. Mine is formatted to APFS so the partition 
>> tab is different. So I am not sure what you should look for.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2018 7:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> will give that a shot
>>> 
>>> is there anything that I should be looking out for?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 8:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
Off list. Since I have not had this problem, perchance you can go into 
 the partition tab and see if you can address this there. Just a guess that 
 you somehow "lost" 125gigs in there.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
 all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 1/12/2018 5:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
> disk aid was one of the verry first things that I tried running
> 
> On 1/12/2018 6:03 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>Too many things going on over here. So you are missing 125g. Have you 
>> run First Aid?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2018 4:56 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> 250 gb capasity
>>> 
>>> minus 125 gigs for the intire mac partition=
>>> 125 gigs
>>> there is still
>>> 125 gigs that should be free
>>> is thismaking any sense?
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 5:46 PM, E.T. wrote:
 Hank,
Go to Finder, do a command shift c to bring up the drives, do a 
 command i on the drive and tell me what the 3 numbers are. Capacity, 
 available and used.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
 all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 1/12/2018 4:40 PM, The wolf wrote:
> the mac book should show a capasity
> 
> of 250 gigs
> not
> 124.92 gigs
> there is still something not right with this
> 
> 
> On 1/12/2018 5:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>If he partition is 125g, 25 used and 100g available then that 
>> adds up up 250g. Am I missing something?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2018 3:23 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> capassity
>>> 
>>> 124.92 gigs
>>> 
>>> 98.6 gigs
>>> 
>>> available
>>> 
>>> 124 megabites
>>> 
>>> purgeable
>>> 
>>> 26 gigs
>>> used
>>> I am still missing 100 gigs some where on this drive
>>> my drive on the mac is a 250 gig drives
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 4:11 PM, E.T. wrote:
Dump the trash and check again.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
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> Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity
> 
> it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is 
> taking over 100 gigs
> 
> On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>How do you know what you are missing? You did not say how 
>> much space is used. Do a Get Info on the drive.
>> 
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>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>

Daisy publishing tools

[Scott Berry]

Are there either any web or app publishing tools I can get for turning some 
material in to DAISY.  I looked at the DAISY site already.  I didn’t see much 
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Re: musical typing i Garageband?

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

It sounds like we have several questions here.  So what actually are the 
questions/. Maybe I can help you guys and gals.



> On Dec 27, 2017, at 1:15 AM, masood B  wrote:
> 
> I have the same problem and I have another problem with GB that my sound 
> library doesn't work. please help me thanks
> 
> On Friday, November 9, 2012 at 6:36:49 AM UTC-8, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> are you sure the track isn't muted or locked and muted for that matter? 
> 
> Ricardo Walker 
> ric...@appletothecore.info  
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> On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Alex Hall > wrote: 
> 
> > I did use cmd-k at first, but realized my mistake and used cmd-shift-k from 
> > then on. Still, nothing happened. Chris, musical typing is a way to use 
> > your keyboard as a musical keyboard. You only have one octave at a time, 
> > but it lets you put together simple melodies or progressions. You can also 
> > put custom sound effects into the keyboard so you can have it make whatever 
> > sounds you want, and you can select plenty of other instruments than just a 
> > piano, from guitars to drums. It's a great feature, I just can't get it to 
> > actually work. 
> > On Nov 9, 2012, at 3:11 AM, Chris > 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> >> What's musical typing? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Christopher Hallsworth 
> >> 
> >> On 09/11/2012 07:24, Gavin Grundlingh wrote: 
> >>> Hi Alex, 
> >>> 
> >>> Which keystroke are you using to turn on musical typing? From what you 
> >>> described, it sounds like you brought up the keyboard window instead of 
> >>> turning on musical typing. Command-K shows or hides the keyboard window, 
> >>> while Command-Shift-K toggles musical typing. Hope this helps. 
> >>> 
> >>> Regards, 
> >>> 
> >>> Gavin Grundlingh 
> >>> Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191 
> >>> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466 
> >>> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792 
> >>> Email: g.ba...@gmail.com  
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> >>> Skype: Batworx 
> >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx 
> >>>  
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> >>> 
> >>> On 08 Nov 2012, at 6:03 PM, Alex Hall > 
> >>> wrote: 
> >>> 
>  Hi all, 
>  I've turned on musical typing in Garageband, but nothing happens when I 
>  press keys, even with vo off. I have a dialog with octave up/down 
>  buttons and an empty scroll area, but that's it. I created a new project 
>  and added a track to it, though as I selected piano in the first place I 
>  now have two piano tracks. What am i missing to get this working right? 
>  Thanks. 
>  
>  
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Re: Bug when entering phone numbers in contacts on Mac

[Scott Berry]

There is a bug it looks like in the numbers field.  It’s not repeating the 
numbers.

> On Dec 16, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
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> Dear List,
> Using the latest Mac OS, When entering numbers for a new contact, the 
> characters
> are not spoken. Sometimes its hard to find the edit field to enter the 
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> Is it just me, or is there a bug in contacts?
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Hi Mark,
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Re: Invitation to closed testing round for accessible Trello mac app

[Scott Berry]

Hi Yuma,

I don’t have to work in teams at all.  Basically what my job consists of is 
keeping appointments, health records and like the lists would be nice.  
Everything though does have to be encrypted if it’s at a stand still or if it 
is being transferred any where else.  If these programs do not do this then I 
probably have no use for them unless they have like mailing capabilities for 
newsletters.



> On Nov 14, 2017, at 1:27 AM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I would love to distribute the app to more users, but right now as we are 
> developing using certain apple technologies which require a developer’s 
> account for beta testing, I can only provide invites to people who have a 
> developer’s account or know somewhat how to use x-code.
> 
> However, we’re pretty confident   about a release soon to a larger crowd to 
> set in stone the main features that people want in an organisational app, 
> I’ve kept your email as record to contact you as soon as we get to the next 
> step.
> 
> Before I go, I had a few questions if you don’t mind:
> 
> 1-What best use case would you have for such an app?
> 2-Would you prefer having one app to both organise and discuss about your 
> projects, such that both are linked and seamless?
> 3-Do you work in a team requiring frequent overview of daily tasks?
> 
> 
> I hope to push this to non developers very soon, so will keep you posted :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Nov 2017, at 3:47 am, Scott Berry > <mailto:sb356...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> Could I please have a look at this.  Although I will be using a Medical 
>> office suite I may find some usefulness out of what you have to offer.
>> 
>> My email is scottbb1...@icloud.com <mailto:scottbb1...@icloud.com>.
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:22 AM, Yuma Decaux >> <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> As I am one of the directors of my startup, I am required to fulfill daily 
>>> organisational tasks, and have an overview of the entire processes our 
>>> business is going through. This includes a variety of sections such as 
>>> hardware, software, finances, coms, the list goes on. ALl this needs to be 
>>> centrally visible and manageable without going through undreds of text 
>>> files or dropbox folders.
>>> 
>>> I had looked for various efficient organisational apps such as Jira, 
>>> Assana, trello and MS project but none really have a smooth, fast way of 
>>> doing things. As they are heavily visual, it is hard to get a proper 
>>> synthesis of what is going on, who added what where and what to search for.
>>> 
>>> So I wrote a wrapper for Trello in swift, and now have a complete suite 
>>> with an interface, currently produced for the mac but that can easily be 
>>> ported to IOS.
>>> 
>>> I would like to make a closed invitation for those of you who code in swift 
>>> to test the app, and it’s efficacy in your daily tasks.
>>> 
>>> So far, it has everything from boards, lists, cards, checklists, 
>>> checkItems, comments, attachments, labels, actions, and works nicely with 
>>> webhooks through apple’s remote push notification service. I’ve also 
>>> written a backend PHP set to manage individual users, tokens and push the 
>>> right messages to the right devices. There are stereo sound cues to alert 
>>> the user of what is going on, as well as new actions being performed by 
>>> others.
>>> 
>>> I am currently trying to finish the initial OAuth process as well as 
>>> getting a proper calendar up with NSCollectionView for deadlines so that 
>>> non coders can use this for their everyday task management.
>>> 
>>> if you have an interest in getting more efficient with your daily 
>>> organisation and have registered a trello account, shoot me an email with 
>>> your github username and I will invite you to the private repo to see if it 
>>> can be rendered more efficient than it currently is.
>>> 
>>> So far I have a few friends, also blind who are using it, and they are 
>>> really liking the fast access to every object in your team and boards. one 
>>> is using it now for his accelerator program at uni, and the other is using 
>>> it for his wly those ork as a clinical psychologist. A few more blind 
>>> professionals are also using it in both accessibility and education.
>>> 
>>> I think that we as blind users should have the same level of acce

Re: Invitation to closed testing round for accessible Trello mac app

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

Could I please have a look at this.  Although I will be using a Medical office 
suite I may find some usefulness out of what you have to offer.

My email is scottbb1...@icloud.com .

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:22 AM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> As I am one of the directors of my startup, I am required to fulfill daily 
> organisational tasks, and have an overview of the entire processes our 
> business is going through. This includes a variety of sections such as 
> hardware, software, finances, coms, the list goes on. ALl this needs to be 
> centrally visible and manageable without going through undreds of text files 
> or dropbox folders.
> 
> I had looked for various efficient organisational apps such as Jira, Assana, 
> trello and MS project but none really have a smooth, fast way of doing 
> things. As they are heavily visual, it is hard to get a proper synthesis of 
> what is going on, who added what where and what to search for.
> 
> So I wrote a wrapper for Trello in swift, and now have a complete suite with 
> an interface, currently produced for the mac but that can easily be ported to 
> IOS.
> 
> I would like to make a closed invitation for those of you who code in swift 
> to test the app, and it’s efficacy in your daily tasks.
> 
> So far, it has everything from boards, lists, cards, checklists, checkItems, 
> comments, attachments, labels, actions, and works nicely with webhooks 
> through apple’s remote push notification service. I’ve also written a backend 
> PHP set to manage individual users, tokens and push the right messages to the 
> right devices. There are stereo sound cues to alert the user of what is going 
> on, as well as new actions being performed by others.
> 
> I am currently trying to finish the initial OAuth process as well as getting 
> a proper calendar up with NSCollectionView for deadlines so that non coders 
> can use this for their everyday task management.
> 
> if you have an interest in getting more efficient with your daily 
> organisation and have registered a trello account, shoot me an email with 
> your github username and I will invite you to the private repo to see if it 
> can be rendered more efficient than it currently is.
> 
> So far I have a few friends, also blind who are using it, and they are really 
> liking the fast access to every object in your team and boards. one is using 
> it now for his accelerator program at uni, and the other is using it for his 
> wly those ork as a clinical psychologist. A few more blind professionals are 
> also using it in both accessibility and education.
> 
> I think that we as blind users should have the same level of access to every 
> service out there, especially to enhance our productivity. To do this, the 
> paradigm has to be seen from the perspective of a screen reader user. Not a 
> visual user, and this is why I wrote VITrello.
> 
> Have a great week y’all 
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Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

[Scott Berry]

You guys complain about these things but never report.  Report these to:

http://www.apple.com/feedback 

Or if they are truly accessibility issues you can report them to:

accessibil...@apple.com .  Complaining on the 
list isn’t going to get any where.  Apple isn’t a mind reader and this is the 
end of what I say so if your commenting plan on it being deleted becausee I am 
frustrated with the fact that I’ve provided this link before and the same 
results seem to be happening you don’t report the bugs so they can’t get fixed. 
 Even though some of us may be beta testers not all of us happen to run in to 
the same problems that the general public have and moaning and groaning just 
isn’t going to solve the issue.



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> What are you finding wrong with it just out of curiosity?  I think it would 
> be nice if you could stop it from constantly moving whenever the directions 
> pop up, sense it constantly causes the screen to also refresh, which makes 
> multitasking next to impossible.
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Taylor Arndt  wrote:
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>> I’ve had it too and this is why our use Google maps?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> OK, I’ve absolutely had it with Maps under iOS 11. This thing is so broken 
>>> and useless that I can’t believe Apple even calls it an app. I thought I 
>>> saw something a while back about rolling back to iOS 10. If anyone has that 
>>> information could you repost it, or send it to me privately?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna Sent from my iPhoune
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Re: voices high sierra

[Scott Berry]

Correct.  This is where the person is saying that it says Activities which is 
valid.  It’s probably either a change of wording or just a typing mistake.  
Either or it will probably be fixed in a future release.



> On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:11 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You do this through Voiceover utility.  Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, 
> then down to the category "Speech" then right to "default voice" popup button 
> where you activate "customize" dialog and choose your voice to download.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 03:06, Wayne Coles  wrote:
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>> hello list can anyone please remind me on how to download voices again i 
>> have lost sam and can’t remember how to get the voices again thanks advance 
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Re: headset

[Scott Berry]

Hi there,

I have a friend who uses the Ear pods with a wireless bluetooth device that 
plugs in to the Windows box and also uses them on the Mac.  His Windows box at 
work uses a bluetooth transmitter and he says that this particular set up works 
well.  He says though it’s optimal to have two pairs but one pair would 
probably work.

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:51 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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> Hi:
> I’m looking for a wireless headset that plugs in to one ear and I can use on 
> mac or windows so no one else can hear the screen reader. Any ideas>
>  
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
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Re: Major bugs in High Sierra

[Scott Berry]

Joshua,

Firstly this is not a major bug.  It a very minor bug.  The scrolling list got 
labeled incorrectly.  Everything else in there works fine I tested it myself.  
People need to be carefully what they call major bugs.  This case is a very 
minor bug anyone can make a typing mistake.  It may also be that Apple decided 
to change the name for a reason.  Whatever the case this has already been 
reported by me.



> On Sep 25, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Just want to caution everyone that it appears impossible to change voices in 
> High Sierra. Where the voices selection is, there’s something about 
> activities.
> 
> Second, I have a 2015 iMac with 16 GB of ram, yet every time I type a message 
> Mail and any other app gets busy busy busy with VoiceOver. This should not! 
> be happening!
> 
> Am I missing something?
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Re: Major bugs in High Sierra

[Scott Berry]

There is absolutely nothing to caution about here.   The problem is that they 
just mislabeled the area is all.  Everything works well.



> On Sep 25, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Just want to caution everyone that it appears impossible to change voices in 
> High Sierra. Where the voices selection is, there’s something about 
> activities.
> 
> Second, I have a 2015 iMac with 16 GB of ram, yet every time I type a message 
> Mail and any other app gets busy busy busy with VoiceOver. This should not! 
> be happening!
> 
> Am I missing something?
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> Thanks.
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Re: Drag and drop on a folder

[Scott Berry]

You can try but I don’t know what that will do.



> On Sep 22, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
> 
> can we report this to the accessibility team? or make a cut and paste.
>> Il giorno 22 set 2017, alle ore 17:14, Scott Berry  ha 
>> scritto:
>> 
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> So if the drag and drop feature doesn’t suit you then basically just copy 
>> the file over with a standard copy commando and you can do a standard paste 
>> operation or you can do a Option Command V for actually moving the file and 
>> pasting it in to the folder.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 8:04 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
>>> 
>>> goodday to all, i want to ask how to drag and drop a file on a folder. I 
>>> tried on my documents folder to drag a file but it says can’t be drag 
>>> beacause maybe the file is hidden. how can it be?
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Re: Drag and drop on a folder

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

So if the drag and drop feature doesn’t suit you then basically just copy the 
file over with a standard copy commando and you can do a standard paste 
operation or you can do a Option Command V for actually moving the file and 
pasting it in to the folder.



> On Sep 22, 2017, at 8:04 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
> 
> goodday to all, i want to ask how to drag and drop a file on a folder. I 
> tried on my documents folder to drag a file but it says can’t be drag 
> beacause maybe the file is hidden. how can it be?
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Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[Scott Granados]

Well, until someone get ahold of Chuck and actually applies some moderation I’m 
done, unsubbing account #2.

> On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:39 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Heh, thanks for the correction. Yes, go figure. Next year's midterm 
> elections will be interesting, we will see how many of the right lose their 
> seats.
> 
>   Michelle O as President. Hmmm! Fascinating!
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/10/2017 9:22 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>>  That's no man, it's an orange!
>> But yeah and he still sits in the chair of power,
>>  Go figure,
>>  Michelle O for president, how would that sound?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 3:13 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>> Simon,
>> The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
>>> 
>>> Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
>>> 
>>> Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when
>>> asked what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
>>> science experiement and see out the storm that way, It was alright though 
>>> he said he had safety measures in place.
>>> 
>>> I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
>>> 
>>>   Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but you
>>> do things like kite surf in a hurricane
>>> 
>>> Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
>>> happenings.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>>> 
>>> WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
>>> town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I just 
>>> grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes for 
>>> the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we will 
>>> see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will see what 
>>> happens.
>>> Check out my groups
>>> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs:
>>> https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
>>> Come learn and teach about apple products!
>>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
>>>> who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
>>>> I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
>>>> it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
>>>> thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder 
>>>> dry down there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Terje,
>>>>> 
>>>>> yes were down here in Sunrise fl Broward County AKA Fort Lauderdale
>>>>> We just had a feeder band go through! and a tornado watch just went
>>>>> in to effect! :) Shutters locked and loaded!
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>&g

Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[Scott Granados]

Don’t get me started on Christians, I had to ride in to work this morning 
hearing on the radio how you nut bags blamed the storm on homosexuals and 
Moslems.

And people say Isis has the monopoly on evil.  Christianity is right there with 
them when you start making nut job claims like this.
I think another great example of Christianity at work was that Joel 
what ever his name is with the mega church in Houston who wouldn’t let in 
people seeking shelter yet he gets a tax free ride on the backs of the citizens.
Another fine example is one of your boys Jim Baker Christian soldier 
who claims that America is being punished by the storms yet neglects to mention 
is himself received 4 years in federal prison for fraud.  Sounds pretty 
Christian to me.

And here we go again with the Moderators only operating one side of thread yet 
allowing chuck to spread his special brand of hate unimpeded whether it’s out 
right list violations like this message or in the continuous stream of BS that 
fills his tag lines that again clearly violate the no religion requirement.

Have to say this list is steadily becoming less and less valuable and more and 
more garbage filled with moderation that’s less and less evenly applied.



> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:57 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah ET,
> This is off topic but I see you need some clarification!
> Your correct it was rigged but not enough to pull it off by the adversary!
> 83% of the Christians in the Us proved that we are still a formidable voting 
> block!
> over 3 million illegal aliens seemed to be able to vote in several states!
> Cant wait till the Vice President finishes his vote fraud investigation.
> Still love to chat some time and I will explain the ET's for you! :)
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:12 PM, E.T. wrote:
> 
>> Simon,
>>  The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
>>> Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
>>> Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when asked 
>>> what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
>>> science experiement and see out the storm that way,
>>> It was alright though he said he had safety measures in place.
>>> I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
>>> Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but you do 
>>> things like kite surf in a hurricane
>>> Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
>>> happenings.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>>> WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
>>> town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I just 
>>> grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes for 
>>> the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we will 
>>> see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will see what 
>>> happens.
>>> Check out my groups
>>> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs: 
>>> https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
>>> Come learn and teach about apple products!
>>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
>>>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
>>>> who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
>>>> I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
>>>> it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
>>>> thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder 
>>>> dry down there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Terje,
>&

Re: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

[Scott Granados]

There’s a slight delay but nothing like traditional headsets.  Vastly improved. 
 It’s the best on the iPhone 7 as it’s optimized all the way through but even 
to a recent Mac it’s wonderful and totally usable with wireless audio.


> On Sep 8, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I'm only noticing a problem when trying to connect the pods to my phone 
> It doesn't always work as it should.
> Think I might take them in to get looked at.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2017 2:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Do Airpods Have a Delay?
> 
> Hi:
> I haven't noticed a delay on my iPhone 6s.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
> Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 8:42 AM
> To: “Mac Visionaries“ 
> Subject: Do Airpods Have a Delay?
> 
> I need to get some new headphones. I'm deciding between the Airpods, or Bose 
> QC 20i.
> 
> I'm hesitant to get the Airpods, because in the past, bluetooth has always 
> had a noticible delay. Do the Airpods still have this issue?
> 
> This will be for an iMac.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What's the best method for changing the connected device with the air pods?

[Scott Granados]

So this manual transfer thing is so weak.  I was writing a review for the 
AirPods originally and going to give them a 5 star rating based on my first 24 
hours use.  But once I got to work trying to use them with all this manually 
connecting and such I’m deducting 2.5 stars until they install multipoint 
support and join the 21st century with everyone else.  Literally every other 
bluetooth headset does this better than Apple.  That’s such a poor performance. 
As someone said though I forget it if it was you or not it’s the first run at 
the product.  Multipoint or something better may be in the works so I will hold 
out for a while .  It’s to bad to because they are so great in absolutely every 
other way.


> On Sep 8, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I can transfer from my phone to my watch by going into the watch settings and 
> Bluetooth then tapping on the watch.
> 
> But this is using IOS 11 on my phone and watch os 3.2.3 
> So the ability is now there but as david said watch os 4 may correct this 
> issue completely.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 8 September 2017 12:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What's the best method for changing the connected device with 
> the air pods?
> 
> The only device I’m not running beta code on besides production work devices 
> of course is my watch.  I bet that’s the problem and addressed in Watch OS 4. 
>  Good point I will do that.  Am I the only one missing multipoint support 
> though?
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:33 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> As iOS 11, and iOS Watch 4 are both coming out within a week or so, might I 
>> suggest you wait a short while about the Air Pods? Apple has admitted the 
>> bug in connecting to the Apple Watch with the Air Pods whilst running 
>> VoiceOver. My hope is that this glitch is corrected then.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 8/09/2017, at 10:14, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’ve done some reading and am not finding much.  I’m wondering what 
>>> people are using for a work flow here.  Say I’m connected to my iPhone and 
>>> I want to connect to my Mac, is the only way to do this to use the 
>>> bluetooth menu and select connect under the AirPods tree?  How about 
>>> connecting back to the phone is there an easier method than going to 
>>> settings, bluetooth and double tapping AirPods?  I read something about the 
>>> control center but I can’t find the control.
>>>  Here’s another question, suppose I’m on the Mac paired and my phone rings, 
>>> how do I get the phone to easily connect directly to the pods?  Should I 
>>> just use FaceTime and handle the call over WiFi?  The lack of meaningful 
>>> multipoint support is less than optimal.  What do you think any suggestions 
>>> for optimizing my experience?  And I’ll be damned if I can’t figure out how 
>>> to get the pods to work with the watch.  I’ve tried the power cycling and 
>>> was going to try a full reset and initial pair again but that seems 
>>> excessive.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I love the audio and the 
>>> use of the pods with the censors and detection of things automatically is 
>>> really something.  I love the charging case as well.  I just don’t get the 
>>> lack of multipoint support.  I wonder if multipoint like APTX is property 
>>> of Qualcomm.  That in itself may explain things, I know it explains the 
>>> lack of APTX at least from what I’ve read.  I have not tried enabling apex 
>>> personally.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
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Re: Upgrading my Mini

[Scott Granados]

Larry, don’t upgrade through apple, go to local shop or do it yourself.  Check 
out www.crucial.com , put in the model Mac you have 
and it will tell you what parts to buy.  Prices are a fraction of what Apple 
charges so you could buy more drive for less money.  


> On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a late ’14 Mac Mini.  It is serving me well, but I notice that the 1TB 
> Fusion drive I bought it with is filling up faster than I expected.  I could 
> go into iTunes and get rid of some videos and that would probably help a lot, 
> but I may have need to install Windows and thus more disk space, so here’s 
> the question.  I know it won’t be the cheap route.  I could probably buy a 
> serviceable Windows machine for what I’ll spend, but I don’t want to clutter 
> my workspace any more than it already is.  If I unplug my Mini and cart it to 
> an Apple store, will they upgrade the drive for me?  What am I looking at 
> spending for a 2TB SSD that they install?  In my younger days I’d happily 
> pull it apart and do it myself, but now I don’t have the time or patience and 
> can’t risk a fatal error.
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Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[Scott Granados]

I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening who 
still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place I would 
not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like it’s headed a 
bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally thought but that 
sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder dry down there.


> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Terje,
> 
> yes were down here in Sunrise fl Broward County AKA Fort Lauderdale
> We just had a feeder band go through! and a tornado watch just went in to 
> effect! :)
> Shutters locked and loaded!
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:
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>> Hi, 
>> 
>> Are there someone from Florida or Georgia on this list? Good luck.
>> 
>> Take care
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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Scott Granados]

Hi Karen,
We do agree. This is why I mentioned I have little room for 
intellectual property theft.  It’s a difficult balance.  On the one hand I’m 
all for observing copy rights and of course paying the artists for their hard 
work but some countries are so heavy handed.  I don’t know where that line is 
exactly but there is one there somewhere.  Piracy is no good though, no 
argument from me.

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> while  that is indeed an excellent point, there  are a good ten different 
> ways  such an exchange might have taken place,..most importantly without 
> posting a link to the contents on an entire list of people.  I might add that 
> the  person asking the question said nothing about informational oppression, 
> they stated that the show is available with Spanish descriptions, and  they 
> wanted English.
> To be sure, there  is a small chance that game of Thrones is restricted  in a 
> few Spanish speaking countries, the nudity might generate as much.
> Still, there was no need at all for the link to the contents  appearing for 
> everyone, now in the archives as well.
> Do not mistake me, I resonate with the dangers of limited cultural exposure, 
> echoing your concerns for journalistic freedom for example stateside.  yet, 
> an explanation of the reason, supporting our possible reasoning, followed by 
> an offer to privately share, while clearly and honestly  stating where the 
> description can be obtained legally, in my personal  view, would have been 
> better.
> Piracy of stolen artistic creations is a crime too.
> Kare
> 
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
> 
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Karen, technically you’re right but what I think he’s bumping in to is state 
>> sponsored censorship.  I could be wrong as I’m not exactly sure where the 
>> poster is from but I know in many countries content is banned and has to be 
>> spread using technologies that subvert the government controls.  A good 
>> example where I definitely know this is true is China.  A practical example 
>> of this is the Big Bang theory.  The show the Big Bang Theory is banned in 
>> China, yes Sheldon is off limits.;).  So many citizens of China use methods 
>> ranging from different torrents, VPNs, net news (remember that one), SSH 
>> tunnels and more to build a bridge to a point in the clear where things are 
>> freely available like we’re used to in the west.  (For now anyway). Also in 
>> these countries many copies are ripped and traded not necessarily to steal 
>> them although they are but because they have no other method for the content 
>> and one lesson we never seem to learn as a society and species is that 
>> markets will always find a way and demand will always find a supply.  
>> Whether it’s the absolute idiotic war on drugs, that foolish experiment that 
>> was repealed by the 21st amendment, or censorship a way is always found to 
>> fill the demand.  So while I definitely don’t support intellectual property 
>> theft, I am willing to cut folks in parts of the world where they aren’t as 
>> free some slack.  Also makes me appreciate what I have and where I live.  I 
>> think I’m inspired to go put some rounds down range, ah if it weren’t so 
>> late.;). I do think this is where the poster is going though.  Trade at your 
>> own risk and make your moral judgements accordingly.  I personally buy my 
>> content like it sounds like you do because I can and want to support the 
>> efforts of the artists but it’s easy for me to do so.  If I had to hide from 
>> Uncle Sam to watch my favorite show I might feel differently and have to 
>> take different steps.  It’s a big bad world out there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So this is stolen property?
>>> I am not sure I understand the no other option idea.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
>>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
>>> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
>>> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
>>> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there.
>>>>

Re: Using my iphone on a camping trip

[Scott Granados]

Congratulations.  I just recently nailed a permanent gig as well so I know how 
positive that is especially with things being so contract oriented now.

Very happy for you.

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 3:55 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Yes, I have a new job. I came off probation and am now permanent as of two 
> months ago.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2/09/2017, at 00:00, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> David, the iPhone does not require GIS data or a cell signal to plot it’s 
>> position.  As you correctly state as long as their is a GPS signal from 
>> enough locations you can determine your position.  I’m not sure about your 
>> particular part of the planet but I know the requirement for GPS for e911 
>> was put in place in the US.  I suspect you folks down under have a similar 
>> requirement.
>> 
>> And rumor has it you got a new job my friend, congratulations if this is 
>> true.  I believe I read this on linked in.
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, Joseph, it depends on the app. Some apps, such as Navigon, store 
>>> all the maps on the phone. For these apps, the only thing needed is GPS 
>>> signal. Unfortunately, only one app which stores local map data on the 
>>> phone is free. All the others charge a decent amount. And, there is the 
>>> situation of accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Direct access to the sky is not always enough. Direct access to the sky 
>>> where the GPS satelites are is always enough, when one has the map data.
>>> 
>>> The situation described, where cell tower access is required means the 
>>> phone requires a data signal to receive map positional information. Oh, I 
>>> believe the information is called GIS, or Geographic Information System.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 1/09/2017, at 04:47, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Scott I'm pretty sure, you're going to have something to say about this. 
>>>> But I hate to burst your bubble. Tim's information is correct to an 
>>>> extent. However yours is completely wrong. If you have no service 
>>>> whatsoever on your device, the phone, will not pick up a GPS location. I 
>>>> have recently tried this. When I've had absolutely no service. The only 
>>>> way it works, when you have no service. As if you have previously loaded 
>>>> your route, before you lost service. So I hope this clarifies things.
>>>> Joseph Hudson
>>>> 
>>>> Email
>>>> jhud7...@gmail.com
>>>> I device support
>>>> Telephone
>>>> 2543007667
>>>> Skype
>>>> joseph.hudson89
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>>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
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>>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>>>> 
>>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is not correct.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even with out service enabled the GPS chip is functional and also pulls 
>>>>> location data from the network.  You have to have cell signal for the 
>>>>> tower based location but GPS will be received all the time.  You will 
>>>>> need to have data cached locally if you don’t have an active account.  
>>>>> WiFi is not required however.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:37 PM, tim  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have recently tried just what your wanting to do. You can do it as 
>>>>>> long as you have a wyfy connection. If not then your iPhone is just a 
>>>>>> big paper weight and only good for books and games.
>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How about just "follow your dog"? Its not impossible. And its not Eat, 
>>>>>>> its E.T.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>>>

Any interest in a review of the Apple AirPods?

[Scott Granados]

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Re: What's the best method for changing the connected device with the air pods?

[Scott Granados]

The only device I’m not running beta code on besides production work devices of 
course is my watch.  I bet that’s the problem and addressed in Watch OS 4.  
Good point I will do that.  Am I the only one missing multipoint support though?


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:33 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> As iOS 11, and iOS Watch 4 are both coming out within a week or so, might I 
> suggest you wait a short while about the Air Pods? Apple has admitted the bug 
> in connecting to the Apple Watch with the Air Pods whilst running VoiceOver. 
> My hope is that this glitch is corrected then.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8/09/2017, at 10:14, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’ve done some reading and am not finding much.  I’m wondering what 
>> people are using for a work flow here.  Say I’m connected to my iPhone and I 
>> want to connect to my Mac, is the only way to do this to use the bluetooth 
>> menu and select connect under the AirPods tree?  How about connecting back 
>> to the phone is there an easier method than going to settings, bluetooth and 
>> double tapping AirPods?  I read something about the control center but I 
>> can’t find the control.
>>   Here’s another question, suppose I’m on the Mac paired and my phone rings, 
>> how do I get the phone to easily connect directly to the pods?  Should I 
>> just use FaceTime and handle the call over WiFi?  The lack of meaningful 
>> multipoint support is less than optimal.  What do you think any suggestions 
>> for optimizing my experience?  And I’ll be damned if I can’t figure out how 
>> to get the pods to work with the watch.  I’ve tried the power cycling and 
>> was going to try a full reset and initial pair again but that seems 
>> excessive.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I love the audio and the 
>> use of the pods with the censors and detection of things automatically is 
>> really something.  I love the charging case as well.  I just don’t get the 
>> lack of multipoint support.  I wonder if multipoint like APTX is property of 
>> Qualcomm.  That in itself may explain things, I know it explains the lack of 
>> APTX at least from what I’ve read.  I have not tried enabling apex 
>> personally.
>> 
>> Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Scott Granados]

Karen, technically you’re right but what I think he’s bumping in to is state 
sponsored censorship.  I could be wrong as I’m not exactly sure where the 
poster is from but I know in many countries content is banned and has to be 
spread using technologies that subvert the government controls.  A good example 
where I definitely know this is true is China.  A practical example of this is 
the Big Bang theory.  The show the Big Bang Theory is banned in China, yes 
Sheldon is off limits.;).  So many citizens of China use methods ranging from 
different torrents, VPNs, net news (remember that one), SSH tunnels and more to 
build a bridge to a point in the clear where things are freely available like 
we’re used to in the west.  (For now anyway). Also in these countries many 
copies are ripped and traded not necessarily to steal them although they are 
but because they have no other method for the content and one lesson we never 
seem to learn as a society and species is that markets will always find a way 
and demand will always find a supply.  Whether it’s the absolute idiotic war on 
drugs, that foolish experiment that was repealed by the 21st amendment, or 
censorship a way is always found to fill the demand.  So while I definitely 
don’t support intellectual property theft, I am willing to cut folks in parts 
of the world where they aren’t as free some slack.  Also makes me appreciate 
what I have and where I live.  I think I’m inspired to go put some rounds down 
range, ah if it weren’t so late.;). I do think this is where the poster is 
going though.  Trade at your own risk and make your moral judgements 
accordingly.  I personally buy my content like it sounds like you do because I 
can and want to support the efforts of the artists but it’s easy for me to do 
so.  If I had to hide from Uncle Sam to watch my favorite show I might feel 
differently and have to take different steps.  It’s a big bad world out there.
 


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> So this is stolen property?
> I am not sure I understand the no other option idea.
> Karen
> 
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
> 
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hi there.
>> I understand what you are saying, but I have no alternative or other options 
>> where I live.
>> As I said before, some stuff is available from the serotek network.
>> Other things I am getting from friends. You can also  subscribe to Net flix 
>> and they also have described content there.
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> where are you getting this from?
>>> Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I would 
>>> with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
>>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
>>> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
>>> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
>>> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
 Hello.
 I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
 If you want it please contact me off list.
 I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up 
 an email list or drop box folder let me know.
 Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
> 
> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
> where are you getting it from?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed 
>> link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
 On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  
 wrote:
 
 I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so 
 please reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series 
 but find it very confusing without narration.
 
 Eric
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
> anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in 
> English and a

What's the best method for changing the connected device with the air pods?

[Scott Granados]

So I’ve done some reading and am not finding much.  I’m wondering what people 
are using for a work flow here.  Say I’m connected to my iPhone and I want to 
connect to my Mac, is the only way to do this to use the bluetooth menu and 
select connect under the AirPods tree?  How about connecting back to the phone 
is there an easier method than going to settings, bluetooth and double tapping 
AirPods?  I read something about the control center but I can’t find the 
control.
Here’s another question, suppose I’m on the Mac paired and my phone 
rings, how do I get the phone to easily connect directly to the pods?  Should I 
just use FaceTime and handle the call over WiFi?  The lack of meaningful 
multipoint support is less than optimal.  What do you think any suggestions for 
optimizing my experience?  And I’ll be damned if I can’t figure out how to get 
the pods to work with the watch.  I’ve tried the power cycling and was going to 
try a full reset and initial pair again but that seems excessive.  Any 
suggestions would be appreciated.  I love the audio and the use of the pods 
with the censors and detection of things automatically is really something.  I 
love the charging case as well.  I just don’t get the lack of multipoint 
support.  I wonder if multipoint like APTX is property of Qualcomm.  That in 
itself may explain things, I know it explains the lack of APTX at least from 
what I’ve read.  I have not tried enabling apex personally.

Anyway, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


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Re: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

[Scott Granados]

Hi, so I have a mid 2016 core I7 quad core 2.8 ghz with 16 GB ram, 1 TB SSD and 
it does nicely.

Also they do run well on the 
> 7 and 7+ both.

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Scott, which model MacBook Pro do you have? I have the 2015 retina also 
> wondering what the delay of the AirPods will be. Further I also have the 
> iPhone 7, but you say it's fine on the seven. 
> 
> Nickus
> Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos...
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> On 05 Sep 2017, at 19:53, Scott Granados  <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
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>> Hi, so it depends on the device you’re paired with.  The AirPods and my 
>> iPhone 7 are very good, very respectably low amount of delay.  My MacBook 
>> Pro has a tiny bit more delay when paired but very usable.  It’s orders of 
>> magnitude better than typical bluetooth.  The sound quality is also 
>> extremely good with the AirPods.  I’d go in that direction if making the 
>> call but maybe you can try them out and decide first hand.
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
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>>> 
>>> I need to get some new headphones. I'm deciding between the Airpods, or 
>>> Bose QC 20i.
>>> 
>>> I'm hesitant to get the Airpods, because in the past, bluetooth has always 
>>> had a noticible delay. Do the Airpods still have this issue?
>>> 
>>> This will be for an iMac.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brandon
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Re: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

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The SE isn’t using some of the current extensions Apple makes available that 
the 7 uses for example.  This accounts for the performance issues.


> On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
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> The airpods have little delay on the mac, they have a bit more on the
> iPhone god knows why, at least on my iPhone SE.
> 
> Cheers.
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>> QC 20i.
>> 
>> I'm hesitant to get the Airpods, because in the past, bluetooth has always
>> had a noticible delay. Do the Airpods still have this issue?
>> 
>> This will be for an iMac.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brandon
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Re: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

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Hi, so it depends on the device you’re paired with.  The AirPods and my iPhone 
7 are very good, very respectably low amount of delay.  My MacBook Pro has a 
tiny bit more delay when paired but very usable.  It’s orders of magnitude 
better than typical bluetooth.  The sound quality is also extremely good with 
the AirPods.  I’d go in that direction if making the call but maybe you can try 
them out and decide first hand.

Good luck

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
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> I need to get some new headphones. I'm deciding between the Airpods, or Bose 
> QC 20i.
> 
> I'm hesitant to get the Airpods, because in the past, bluetooth has always 
> had a noticible delay. Do the Airpods still have this issue?
> 
> This will be for an iMac.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: AirPods and the watch, how do you get them to work together?

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I’ll give it a shot, thanks for the suggestion.


> On Sep 4, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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> Power cycle the watch. Then go to control center, airplay turn that on and 
> choose airpods. it is still buggy.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
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> Subject: AirPods and the watch, how do you get them to work together?
> 
> Title pretty much sums it up but here’s a bit more.  I have the AirPods 
> paired to my iPhone attached to iCloud, version 3.7.2 of the firmware 
> installed.  When I go to to the watch and hit settings, bluetooth, airpods I 
> get a failure to connect message.
>   Also, is there a more elegant way of switching between devices.  Apple 
> seems behind the times making the user manually connect.  The regular 
> multipoint bluetooth automatically switches you to the active device with out 
> having to touch any settings.  I’m figuring this is operator error on my part 
> so any pointers would be most appreciated.
>   Other than the switching devices issues, the pods are amazing.
> 
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AirPods and the watch, how do you get them to work together?

[Scott Granados]

Title pretty much sums it up but here’s a bit more.  I have the AirPods paired 
to my iPhone attached to iCloud, version 3.7.2 of the firmware installed.  When 
I go to to the watch and hit settings, bluetooth, airpods I get a failure to 
connect message.
Also, is there a more elegant way of switching between devices.  Apple 
seems behind the times making the user manually connect.  The regular 
multipoint bluetooth automatically switches you to the active device with out 
having to touch any settings.  I’m figuring this is operator error on my part 
so any pointers would be most appreciated.
Other than the switching devices issues, the pods are amazing.

Thanks.

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Re: Social Media and Preparedness

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Things haven’t changed that much, porn is still one of the biggest financial 
drivers on the internet.  A very large percentage of the over all traffic is 
adult content.  When I was running my carrier business I had several adult 
content providers as customers.  They were some of the best clients you could 
ask for.  Always wanting more and more bandwidth, paid on time every time and 
pushed a lot of traffic that was destined for over seas networks making peering 
attractive for overseas players helping me build connections that delivered 
very good international connectivity.  The South Koreans for example download a 
massive amount of US adult content.  Helped me set up several lasting 
relationships with Koreatel and KDDI Japan.:)
Adult content is also in a small way helping the adoption of IPv6.  At 
one point there was a porn site that was available completely for free but only 
over IPv6.  It motivated a few folks to deploy a dual stack arrangement if you 
know what I mean.:). Free adult content is a motivator.




> On Sep 4, 2017, at 12:01 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is good and bad in most things.  Years ago, the older ones viewed 
> computers as A just another book keeping device or B a way of getting porn 
> secretly. I heard one of those comments a long time ago.  Face book was used 
> to advertise the opening of a new restaurant. Also, as mentioned when there 
> were forest fires in B C, a way of giving updates and notifying friends that 
> one was alright and keeping them a breast of evacuation orders.
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Social Media and Preparedness
> 
> Tim,
>This is what is swinging me around to use the apps. You would probably 
> agree the benefits outweigh the garbage. I have friends in Texas who felt the 
> power of Harvey but were far enough away to be safe.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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> 
> On 9/4/2017 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> FaceBook has a nice feature that lets people know that you're safe during an 
>> emergency situation.  Last year during the evacuation of Fort McMurray due 
>> to the wildfire, a notification popped into our FaceBook feed stating 
>> something to the nature of "Let your friends and family know your safe".  We 
>> were able to let all our FaceBook contacts know that we had made it out 
>> safely and were OK.  This was a huge relief for many of our friends and 
>> family as they followed the scary news of the event.  Now, this certainly 
>> isn't foolproof as one needs a device like an iPhone, and some sort of 
>> method by which you can connect to FaceBook, like active cell towers, in 
>> order for this to be of any service.  But it is very useful in my opinion.  
>> This, along with follow-up groups etc gave me a new appreciation for the 
>> power of social media like FaceBook during emergency events.  Granted, 
>> there's a ton of garbage on FaceBook and other social media platforms, but 
>> this feature certainly was positive.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 09:08, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> I love Youtube so much cool and fun stuff there. I tend to use twitter 
>> for a lot of my social media needs. I kind of work like you Scott when 
>> it comes to Social media. Gave up on facebook last year for the most 
>> part. I might log in every now and then.
>> 
>> On 9/4/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> I find it really difficult to cut a line of facebook or twitter on a 
>>> mirror and then snort it through my straw.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Monday, 4 September 2017 3:19 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Social Media and Preparedness
>>> 
>>> I don’t find it addicting but that’s me.  I think the closest I get 
>>> is I do like watching content on youtube and other video sources but 
>>> I’m more of a passive user of social media.  I get news aggregated on 
>>> twitter and so forth.
>>> 
>&g

Re: The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET

[Scott Granados]

I want something like R2D2 that could do my soldering for me and be like your 
robot mechanic little buddy.  

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:09 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> That would be awesome I would totally want to buy one.
> 
> On 9/4/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> Ok, I'm interested in the fridge that rolls around after the user.
>> 
>> How great would that be at a party?
>> 
>> Hey fridge, I need a new drink!
>> And there it is with a cold beverage in your hand...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, 3 September 2017 5:11 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am posting the following article as a general interest piece as I think it
>> important for us to be aware of new and exciting technology that may, some
>> day, affect us all.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET
>> 
>> CNET News - Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 4:00 AM The coolest, best and
>> strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET If you want all the hottest new tech
>> gathered in one place, you want IFA.
>> CNET spent the week in Berlin for this year's edition of the long-enduring
>> tech trade show to find out what we'll be talking about over the next 12
>> months.
>> IFA 2017 featured companies coming up with a vast range of increasingly
>> connected, increasingly smart and increasingly voice-controlled devices.
>> Amazon's Alexa dominated the show by appearing in a wealth of products that
>> talk back to you, while products in the burgeoning smart home section ranged
>> from the very useful to the increasingly wacky (like appliances with
>> multiple doors and a mobile mini fridge that trundles round after you).
>> Voice control
>> As with CES back in January, Alexa has been the talk of the show, so to
>> speak. We've counted 24 products (so far) introducing Alexa support here.
>> Third-party device support for Alexa has flourished in the US, and the trend
>> appears to be continuing in Germany. You can ask smart speakers, docks and
>> TVs like the Lenovo Home Assistant or Toshiba 4K tellies to play music or
>> movies, or you can order robots like the Bosch Roxxter vacuum and LG Lawn
>> Mower to take care of your chores. Here's a full list of Alexa-powered
>> products.
>> Amazon also announced this week that Alexa will soon be able to talk to
>> Microsoft's Cortana, a rival voice system. A few products also opted to
>> integrate multiple voice systems: The Moto X4 and LG V30 smartphones, for
>> instance, offer Alexa as well as Google Assistant. Here's a list of Google
>> Assistant devices from IFA.
>> Then there's audio brand Harman, which has elected to put Alexa into the
>> high-end Harman Kardon Allure speaker and Google Assistant into the cheaper
>> JBL Link -- make of that what you will.
>> Phones
>> If you're an aspiring or full-time YouTuber or Instagrammer, the LG V30 may
>> be the phone for you thanks to its nifty video and photo features.
>> For the rest of us, the feature-packed Moto X4 does a little bit of
>> everything. It has two cameras (with flash for selfies), water-proofing,
>> Amazon Alexa and Bluetooth that connects to four speakers or headphones to
>> get the party started.
>> And while voice-controlled smartphones are hurtling into the next generation
>> of interface, you'll be pleased to hear BlackBerry is catching up with the
>> last generation, announcing an all-touchscreen phone for later this year.
>> Virtual, augmented, mixed reality
>> Let's get real for a moment -- but are we talking virtual reality, augmented
>> reality or mixed reality? Various new headsets were launched at IFA to give
>> you a range of VR, AR and MR.
>> Asus, Acer, Dell and HP are all producing Windows Mixed Reality headsets,
>> but Lenovo's Explorer sounds like the most fun. It has scored a deal to
>> create a lightsaber controller for Star Wars Jedi swordfights in VR.
>> Smart homes
>> The appliance side of the show held a few surprises. Laundry care was a
>> major highlight at almost every large-appliance booth. Samsung's QuickDrive
>> washing machine claims to wash a standard load of clothes in half the time
>> and with less energy than traditional washers. Electrolux says its
>> PerfectCare washer and dryer lineup will clean clothes you'd normally need
>> to send out for dry cleaning.
>> In addition to its own "whisper quiet" washing machines, Bosch also
>> demonstrated a concept device called X-Spect. It's a handheld scanner for
>> both laundry and food items that determines what they're made of and then
>> sends cleaning or cooking instructions, respectively, to appliances around
>> your home.
>> For the kitchen, Miele's Dialog oven was one of the most impressive things
>> we saw here. It uses a combination of electromagnetic waves, a convection
>> fan and tra

Re: Social Media and Preparedness

[Scott Granados]

This makes sense and cell service is pretty reliable even during these natural 
disasters.  Some carriers put more emphasis on disaster recovery than others, 
Verizon for example used to build generators in to all of their major towers 
and distribution points, others might focus lesss on generators but might have 
batteries which would carry for a while and so forth.  Even during Harvey the 
news gathering organizations were having some success using the cell networks 
for their broadcasts.  A lot of locations are going to smaller cells more 
densely placed so there aren’t the big towers to fall over and be damaged in 
the wind.  YOu’ll have little devices the size of lunch boxes scattered on 
poles and roofs so you can lose some sites but still be fully functional.  They 
also form wireless meshes so there’s fewer physical fibers and cables to break 
and disrupt communications.  Definitely aren’t perfect yet and you still need 
that old battery operated transistor radio in case the sites go out and you 
have 0 communication but at least thought is being put in to designing networks 
that with stand these events now.



> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> FaceBook has a nice feature that lets people know that you're safe during an 
> emergency situation.  Last year during the evacuation of Fort McMurray due to 
> the wildfire, a notification popped into our FaceBook feed stating something 
> to the nature of "Let your friends and family know your safe".  We were able 
> to let all our FaceBook contacts know that we had made it out safely and were 
> OK.  This was a huge relief for many of our friends and family as they 
> followed the scary news of the event.  Now, this certainly isn't foolproof as 
> one needs a device like an iPhone, and some sort of method by which you can 
> connect to FaceBook, like active cell towers, in order for this to be of any 
> service.  But it is very useful in my opinion.  This, along with follow-up 
> groups etc gave me a new appreciation for the power of social media like 
> FaceBook during emergency events.  Granted, there's a ton of garbage on 
> FaceBook and other social media platforms, but this feature certainly was 
> positive.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 09:08, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I love Youtube so much cool and fun stuff there. I tend to use twitter
> for a lot of my social media needs. I kind of work like you Scott when
> it comes to Social media. Gave up on facebook last year for the most
> part. I might log in every now and then.
> 
> On 9/4/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> I find it really difficult to cut a line of facebook or twitter on a mirror
>> and then snort it through my straw.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Monday, 4 September 2017 3:19 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
>> Subject: Re: Social Media and Preparedness
>> 
>> I don’t find it addicting but that’s me.  I think the closest I get is I do
>> like watching content on youtube and other video sources but I’m more of a
>> passive user of social media.  I get news aggregated on twitter and so
>> forth.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 10:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks that did help. I promise myself I will not become addicted to
>>> this. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
>>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 9/3/2017 6:41 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> O in my opinion Facebook is what you would use to stay connected with
>>>> your family and friends and twitter would be the best for gathering news
>>>> and staying informed.  You could follow the news sites or aggregators you
>>>> want and quickly get the latest.
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 9:32 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not a fan of social media. But given how it can be used in times
>>>>> of emergency, I may relent.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which would be ideal for me to sign up with, and the most useful,
>>>>> Facebook or Twitter? I would only use an iDevice for this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where y

Re: Social Media and Preparedness

[Scott Granados]

I don’t find it addicting but that’s me.  I think the closest I get is I do 
like watching content on youtube and other video sources but I’m more of a 
passive user of social media.  I get news aggregated on twitter and so forth.


> On Sep 3, 2017, at 10:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Thanks that did help. I promise myself I will not become addicted to this. 
> (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/3/2017 6:41 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> O in my opinion Facebook is what you would use to stay connected with your 
>> family and friends and twitter would be the best for gathering news and 
>> staying informed.  You could follow the news sites or aggregators you want 
>> and quickly get the latest.
>> Hope that helps.
>>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 9:32 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I am not a fan of social media. But given how it can be used in times of 
>>> emergency, I may relent.
>>> 
>>>   Which would be ideal for me to sign up with, and the most useful, 
>>> Facebook or Twitter? I would only use an iDevice for this.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: Social Media and Preparedness

[Scott Granados]

O in my opinion Facebook is what you would use to stay connected with your 
family and friends and twitter would be the best for gathering news and staying 
informed.  You could follow the news sites or aggregators you want and quickly 
get the latest.

Hope that helps.

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 9:32 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I am not a fan of social media. But given how it can be used in times of 
> emergency, I may relent.
> 
>   Which would be ideal for me to sign up with, and the most useful, Facebook 
> or Twitter? I would only use an iDevice for this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
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Re: 22 positive, practical things you can do to feel better about yourself and the world, USA Today

[Scott Granados]

No problem, putting me on moderation status just makes it that much easier to 
decide which lists to weed out since I wanted to cut back on a few.

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Best this article was sent to North Courier as he could think on all this 
> before killing us all with his bomb!  And don't comment or you'll have Cara 
> putting you on moderation status, I hope you got that Scott, oh I forgot you 
> were already on that, actually I was kidding as I have not forgotten.  Sorry, 
> I couldn't resist after hearing the news this morning.  No doubt I'll be in 
> trouble now, that don't worry me in the slightest.
>> On 3 Sep 2017, at 00:23, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Given the recent turmoil in the world, Cara and I decided to post the
>> following article to both the Mac Visionaries and V iPhone mailing list.
>> 
>> We hope you find it useful.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 22 positive, practical things you can do to feel better about yourself and
>> the worldz
>> USA Today Network
>> By Anne Godlasky, USA TODAY, Published 1:14 p.m. ET Aug. 31, 2017 | Updated
>> 9:33 a.m. ET Sept. 1, 2017
>> 
>> If all you can do is crawl, start crawling. -Rumi
>> 
>> In other words, do something even if it's small. These words of wisdom (from
>> the famed poet, not the Beyonce twin) are especially fitting now when the
>> world seems more complex and polarized than ever.
>> 
>> "Small actions can make a huge difference. When you think about what has
>> 'made your day,' it's often small acts of kindness given or received," said
>> Meg Selig, author of Changepower! 37 Secrets to Habit Change Success. "So
>> much research shows that helping others - which some call 'mitzvah therapy'
>> - leads to happiness."
>> 
>> Get started by picking and choosing from this list of "actionable" everyday
>> ideas - crowdsourced from readers, fellow journalists and psychology experts
>> 
>> 1. Before you get into an online war of words, take a breath.
>> If you are itching to deploy a withering retort to someone on Facebook,
>> think about how you would frame it if the roles were reversed. Are you
>> name-calling and giving in to your worst, knee-jerk instincts? Or are you
>> making thoughtful arguments focused solely on ideas, policies and values?
>> Edit your comment, if necessary, so that you can answer "no" to the first
>> question and "yes" to the second.
>> "Getting into a war of words with others who don't share your views hardly
>> ever makes things better," said Toni Bernhard, who's written books on living
>> well. "People are deeply attached to their views ... so I don't recommend
>> that you try to talk people out of their opinions. It's time wasted that
>> could be spent doing something constructive for yourself or others."
>> 
>> 2. Get offline
>> If disengaging from negative comments doesn't work, consider limiting your
>> "intake of disturbing news stories and opinion articles," says Selig.
>> "Think about what is important to [you] and then go and do that, regardless
>> of the latest social media 'outrage cycle,'" said Selig. "Too much revolving
>> around [it] could just knock a person off balance."
>> Unplugging from technology also gives you a chance to connect with people
>> face to face and better observe nature and the world.
>> 
>> 3. Commute kindly.
>> It's nobody's favorite part of the day, but that doesn't mean you have to
>> cut people off, tailgate or otherwise exhibit road rage. Let people merge.
>> Sing in the car. Don't push on the subway. Find music or podcasts that
>> invigorate or enlighten you so you can walk into work or home a little
>> happier.
>> 
>> 4. Take a CPR/First Aid course.
>> You could save a life someday. Find a Red Cross class near you.
>> 
>> 5. Tell your spouse, your bae, your buddy you love them.
>> If you feel it, let them know.
>> "Expressions of love are a wonderful way to give support," Selig said.
>> "Sometimes just to know someone else cares helps you feel stronger and more
>> resilient."
>> 
>> 6. Reach out.
>> If you know a family member, friend or even just an acquaintance is going
>> through a hard time, reach out to them - don't assume someone else will do
>> it. It's OK if you don't know what to say. Just listen. Remember if they'

Re: Prepare for disaster: How your smartphone can help in an emergency, USA Today

[Scott Granados]

Not very yet, it’s very new.  I know they are looking at installing video and 
everything up here but that’s still pretty cutting edge.  Towns are just 
starting to rally get in to unified communications in a big way.

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   You probably can answer this one. How widespread are the 0-1-1 call centers 
> that support text?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/2/2017 6:08 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Prepare for disaster: How your smartphone can help in an emergency
>> By  Marc Saltzman, USA TODAY
>> Hurricane Harvey has knocked out a lot of the regular communications
>> infrastructure in parts of Texas, but a walkie talkie-like app has emerged
>> to fill the need. USA TODAY Patrick Tobias seals his phone in a bag after
>> taking a picture of his flooded car, behind, as he stands in floodwater from
>> Tropical Storm Harvey Wednesday, Aug. 30, 2017, in Kingwood, Texas. (Photo:
>> AP Photo/Gregory Bull) The catastrophic events caused by Hurricane Harvey
>> put smartphones to the test , raising the question about what our trusty
>> mobile companions can do to help in crises like these. After all, we rely on
>> these pocket-sized supercomputers for much of our lives, in a normal state,
>> so surely they can be useful during natural disasters, among other grave
>> situations one might find themselves in. Your survival plan should include
>> your smartphone, and there are a few things you can do in advance for
>> emergency preparedness, but you won't be able to rely on your mobile device
>> for everything. Some thoughts, tips, and tricks to consider for the future:
>> Rhonda Worthington talks on her cell phone with a 911 dispatcher as she gets
>> out of her car after her vehicle become stalled in rising floodwaters from
>> Harvey in Houston on Aug. 28. (Photo: LM Otero, AP) According to the Federal
>> Communications Commission (FCC), only 4% of the nearly 7,800 cell sites in
>> Harvey's path were knocked out, affecting nearly 150,000 people. By
>> comparison, more than 1,000 cell sites were inoperable during Hurricane
>> Katrina in 2005, leaving millions without connectivity. In other words,
>> communications networks are getting better at weathering major natural
>> events like hurricanes. It's not perfect ' residents in Rockport, Texas,
>> suffered the biggest outage last week, and therefore you can't assume you'll
>> have service in these situations. You do not need to have an active phone
>> plan to call 9-1-1 from any smartphone. (Photo: AT&T/Handout) Presuming
>> there is cellular service, people are encouraged to send text messages and
>> emails and posts notifications to Facebook and Twitter about their
>> whereabouts and immediate needs, or to look up where local shelters are. If
>> your smartphone doesn't have coverage in the area you're in during an
>> emergency, or you don't have an active cell plan, you can still reach 9-1-1
>> from your mobile phone. You can also text 9-1-1, perhaps if you're unable to
>> talk or need to be silent (perhaps in a terrorist situation), but you must
>> first be registered for the T9-1-1 service with your wireless service
>> provider. Because you don't need to pay for cell service to call 9-1-1, it's
>> not a bad idea to keep an old and deactivated phone in your emergency kit.
>> More: Why you might want to own a 'burner phone In the event you have power
>> and Wi-Fi but no cellular, there are apps that let you make video and audio
>> calls for help. (Photo: Skype/handout) While not as likely, you might find
>> yourself in a situation where you've got Wi-Fi, but no cellular service. But
>> that doesn't mean you can't still make phone calls. Using apps like Facebook
>> Messenger, Google Duo, Viber, and Fring lets you make free phone calls over
>> Wi-Fi ' even if there's no cell service. Some may require you setting this
>> up ahead of time. Skype is also free to another Skype user, and in the event
>> you need to call a landline or mobile phone, it's dirt cheap to do so at
>> about 10 cents per call (if that), but it does require you to deposit a bit
>> of cash ('Skype Credits') into your account. Some phones are waterproof,
>> which could help during some natural disaster, or else pick up a waterproof
>> case or seal your electronics in a 

Re: opinions wanted.

[Scott Granados]

Hi, other than laptops, I do not think there will be new Macs next year.  They 
take a long time between update cycles on the old computer hardware in recent 
days.

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I will have sold my I Mac by the end of next week beginning the 11th of 
> September.
> 
> I plan to buy a new I Mac next year as of now am using My 2014 MacMini.
> 
> What I want to know is, do you all think there will be a new I Mac line next 
> September?
> 
> I wish I won the Lottery then I could get the I Mac Pro but it's not 
> affordable for me this year.
> 
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Re: 22 positive, practical things you can do to feel better about yourself and the world, USA Today

[Scott Granados]

Mark, this was a great post!

I like  I think it was number 12 about continuing to learn.

Thank you for taking the time to post.

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 7:23 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Given the recent turmoil in the world, Cara and I decided to post the
> following article to both the Mac Visionaries and V iPhone mailing list.
> 
> We hope you find it useful.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 22 positive, practical things you can do to feel better about yourself and
> the worldz
> USA Today Network
> By Anne Godlasky, USA TODAY, Published 1:14 p.m. ET Aug. 31, 2017 | Updated
> 9:33 a.m. ET Sept. 1, 2017
> 
> If all you can do is crawl, start crawling. -Rumi
> 
> In other words, do something even if it's small. These words of wisdom (from
> the famed poet, not the Beyonce twin) are especially fitting now when the
> world seems more complex and polarized than ever.
> 
> "Small actions can make a huge difference. When you think about what has
> 'made your day,' it's often small acts of kindness given or received," said
> Meg Selig, author of Changepower! 37 Secrets to Habit Change Success. "So
> much research shows that helping others - which some call 'mitzvah therapy'
> - leads to happiness."
> 
> Get started by picking and choosing from this list of "actionable" everyday
> ideas - crowdsourced from readers, fellow journalists and psychology experts
> 
> 1. Before you get into an online war of words, take a breath.
> If you are itching to deploy a withering retort to someone on Facebook,
> think about how you would frame it if the roles were reversed. Are you
> name-calling and giving in to your worst, knee-jerk instincts? Or are you
> making thoughtful arguments focused solely on ideas, policies and values?
> Edit your comment, if necessary, so that you can answer "no" to the first
> question and "yes" to the second.
> "Getting into a war of words with others who don't share your views hardly
> ever makes things better," said Toni Bernhard, who's written books on living
> well. "People are deeply attached to their views ... so I don't recommend
> that you try to talk people out of their opinions. It's time wasted that
> could be spent doing something constructive for yourself or others."
> 
> 2. Get offline
> If disengaging from negative comments doesn't work, consider limiting your
> "intake of disturbing news stories and opinion articles," says Selig.
> "Think about what is important to [you] and then go and do that, regardless
> of the latest social media 'outrage cycle,'" said Selig. "Too much revolving
> around [it] could just knock a person off balance."
> Unplugging from technology also gives you a chance to connect with people
> face to face and better observe nature and the world.
> 
> 3. Commute kindly.
> It's nobody's favorite part of the day, but that doesn't mean you have to
> cut people off, tailgate or otherwise exhibit road rage. Let people merge.
> Sing in the car. Don't push on the subway. Find music or podcasts that
> invigorate or enlighten you so you can walk into work or home a little
> happier.
> 
> 4. Take a CPR/First Aid course.
> You could save a life someday. Find a Red Cross class near you.
> 
> 5. Tell your spouse, your bae, your buddy you love them.
> If you feel it, let them know.
> "Expressions of love are a wonderful way to give support," Selig said.
> "Sometimes just to know someone else cares helps you feel stronger and more
> resilient."
> 
> 6. Reach out.
> If you know a family member, friend or even just an acquaintance is going
> through a hard time, reach out to them - don't assume someone else will do
> it. It's OK if you don't know what to say. Just listen. Remember if they're
> grieving or have experienced a trauma, they'll likely receive an immediate
> outpouring of kindness, only to face a drought months later when their need
> remains but others think they should be over it. You could even set up a
> calendar reminder to check in.
> 
> 7. Give time.
> You know how we said "just listen"? That goes for everyday interactions,
> too. Ask "how are you?" and mean it. Give them time to answer. Go a little
> bigger: Do "microvolunteering" from the comfort of your couch through
> HelpFromHome.org or Skills for Change. Go bigger still: Give your time to a
> food bank, a tutoring program, a community garden. Check out volunteer
> opportunities through your place of worship, school or community center. As
> philosopher Simone Weil said: Attention is the rarest and purest form of
> generosity.
> 
> 8. Give money.
> Set up recurring donations to causes you care about. Make sure they're legit
> (i.e. putting your money toward programming) by checking their rating on
> CharityNavigator, GuideStar or the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving
> guide.
> 
> 9. Give better gifts.
> Unfortunately, "a donation has been made in your name" doesn't always spark
> a smile in the recipient - especially a kid! But you can still give stuff
> and have it at least partly benefit others through s

Re:

[Scott Granados]

And worth every penny as a side note.  Love the new magic keyboard.

> On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:19 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, about $129.
> 
> On 1 Sep 2017, at 18:56, Matthew Dierckens  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>> Apple now has a bluetooth keyboard with a builtin numpad.
>> Unsure of the American pricing.
>> HTH.
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
>> JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
>> Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
>> U.S. phone: 573-401-1018
>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 12:11, Vaughn Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I am wanting to use an external numb pad with ProTools on my laptop.
>>> Are there any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Vaughn
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[Scott Granados]

Hi, there’s no need at all to add Linux.  Your Mac already has a fully 
functional unix shell under the hood.  This is what the terminal program gives 
you access too.  You could for example enable ssh so that your Mac receives 
connections and your brother could remotely log in.  He’d be at home in the BSD 
unix environment that the pretty pictures on the Mac run on.:)

As for the busy messages, I would back up your dada, immediately reformat your 
disk and restore it.  Time Machine is a great application for just this 
project.  Your file system is likely either corrupted or possibly to full.  If 
you’re running out of disk this could also cause the problem and can be helped 
with deleting files but in my experience the defragmentation on a Mac on 
rotating drives had problems over time.

So in order I’d backup your disk completely, enter recovery mode, reformat the 
disk, reinstall the OS and restore what you want.  You could also restore the 
full backup and skip the second step but you might restore any applications 
causing problems so it’s your call.

That’s my $.02

> On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:50 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:
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> 
> Hi: My Mini is a 2015. It has an old style disk drive. Hope this helps you to 
> help me. I may in the future look to adding Lenox as this would help my 
> brother with working with my Mac. He uses Lenox and is my go to person if 
> Mini is not working correctly, although I am learning more every day. 
> However, putting another operating system on my Mac is far above my pay grade 
> right now. Yes, he could teach me lenox.
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Nimer Jaber  <mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Busy messages happen to me on a Macbook pro, fully specked out, SSD and a 
> bunch of ram and all. They equally happen on a MB air... not sure the cause, 
> and not sure why some experience this and others don't, but this has been my 
> biggest headache with the Mac, and one that causes me to revert to Windows or 
> Linux to achieve productive browsing. Honestly, Safari and an external 
> keyboard on the iPhone is much, much better.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:57 AM Scott Granados  <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What vintage is your Mini, is it new or older?  Also, do you have an SSD 
> drive or rotating old style hard disk?  I ask because this information would 
> help me determine both whether you should upgrade or not and what’s causing 
> the busy messages.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> > On Sep 1, 2017, at 12:54 PM, regina alvarado  > <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I am wondering if this is a habit of my Mini or if there is a setting I can 
> > change. When I was in the internet and moving up and down with vo-arrows, 
> > oftentimes I would hear internet busy. I have heard this in mail also. Once 
> > I wait a bit the internet is back on. Is there anything I can do to 
> > alleviate this? Also, is there a command to go straight to text in safari 
> > once you are on the article's page? Thanks. Newby but learning and 
> > determined to understand apple operating system. Oh, I know high sierra is 
> > coming. I currently have el Capitan. I was told by a person in 
> > Accessibility that I don't want to upgrade any further as my Mini is like a 
> > first computer for someone like a grandmother or a user who only wanted 
> > internet and mail and perhaps music or such basic things. I am happy with 
> > this, though I have no grandchildren. What does everyone think about this. 
> > Should I upgrade to any of the higher like sierra? I was told there would 
> > be less lag if I stayed on El Capitan.
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