Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all,

Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I wanted 
to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the big picture, 
I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has opened my eyes to 
where accessibility falls with big companies.

Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I miss 
most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. One of 
the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games anymore is 
by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision has deteriorated 
and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology playing fantasy 
games has gotten harder and harder. 

The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you build 
your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java and flash to 
run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow you to 
participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team starting 
out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the web and app store 
I came across an app released by an individual entrepreneur called Big Noggins 
that was the first app that made it possible for you to draft your ESPN and 
Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was so thankful and surprised when the app 
actually worked with Voiceover. Of course I figured once the live draft started 
there would probably be some complications with Voiceover. Nope, the app worked 
perfectly with Voiceover. Amazing, as technology had made my day a little 
brighter by allowing me to once again participate in a live draft. I know in 
the big picture this is just fantasy games, but anything that brings you a 
little enjoyment is a good thing, and I was so thrilled for the past two years 
to be able to draft my own teams.

With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to draft 
my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of the 2013 
draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no release of the 
app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to Big Noggins website 
and discovered that his technology that allows people to draft their team on an 
iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, yahoo is supposedly a forward 
thinking company when it comes to accessibility. I downloaded Yahoo's 2013 
fantasy football app which has been completely retooled for 2013, and now 
thanks to Big Noggins technology allows Yahoo users for the first time to draft 
their team on an iPhone. 

Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my live 
draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even though Yahoo 
acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in implementing the 
technology into their own app completely broke its accessibility with 
Voiceover. Once again leaving blind fantasy sport players in the dark. How 
could a company as big as Yahoo that claims to care about accessibility break 
something that once worked? It just goes to show where accessibility falls with 
a big company. They don't care. For years, I have been speaking with Yahoo 
about the accessibility of their fantasy games, and have been getting the 
typical we're aware of the accessibility issues and are working on it. After 
this latest experience, I now believe and know that companies like Yahoo could 
care less when it comes to improving accessibility. If this small entrepreneur 
was able to make his app accessible how in the world can a billion dollar 
company like Yahoo take that same technology, implement it in their app, and 
completely leave out accessibility. My only conclusion is it is they just don't 
care. ESPN is even worse than Yahoo, as I have tried contacting them about 
accessibility for five years, and have not once received a response. I find it 
pathetic that a company like ESPN, which is owned by Disney could care less 
about implementing any form of accessibility to help allow blind people to use 
any of their apps. Their website is an absolute nightmare to try and read with 
a screen reader. If Major League Baseball and other small entrepreneurs can 
make their apps fully accessible with Voiceover than their is no excuse for a 
company like ESPN to not be able to make their apps and website accessible.

I know that I am talking about fantasy games, and in the big picture, they are 
not important, but this experience with major companies does shed some light on 
where accessibility falls.

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Re: Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread John Panarese
   I feel your pain.  I am a big fantasy sports guy, and this is a subject that 
sends my blood pressure through the roof.  Yahoo has crappy fantasy sports apps 
in general.  You can’t set your lineups from the iDevice and need to use the 
web interface.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I wanted 
 to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the big 
 picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has opened my 
 eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies.
 
 Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I miss 
 most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. One of 
 the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games anymore 
 is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision has 
 deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology 
 playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. 
 
 The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you build 
 your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java and flash 
 to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow you to 
 participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team starting 
 out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the web and app 
 store I came across an app released by an individual entrepreneur called Big 
 Noggins that was the first app that made it possible for you to draft your 
 ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was so thankful and surprised when the 
 app actually worked with Voiceover. Of course I figured once the live draft 
 started there would probably be some complications with Voiceover. Nope, the 
 app worked perfectly with Voiceover. Amazing, as technology had made my day a 
 little brighter by allowing me to once again participate in a live draft. I 
 know in the big picture this is just fantasy games, but anything that brings 
 you a little enjoyment is a good thing, and I was so thrilled for the past 
 two years to be able to draft my own teams.
 
 With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to 
 draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of the 
 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no release of 
 the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to Big Noggins 
 website and discovered that his technology that allows people to draft their 
 team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, yahoo is supposedly a 
 forward thinking company when it comes to accessibility. I downloaded Yahoo's 
 2013 fantasy football app which has been completely retooled for 2013, and 
 now thanks to Big Noggins technology allows Yahoo users for the first time to 
 draft their team on an iPhone. 
 
 Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my 
 live draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even though 
 Yahoo acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in 
 implementing the technology into their own app completely broke its 
 accessibility with Voiceover. Once again leaving blind fantasy sport players 
 in the dark. How could a company as big as Yahoo that claims to care about 
 accessibility break something that once worked? It just goes to show where 
 accessibility falls with a big company. They don't care. For years, I have 
 been speaking with Yahoo about the accessibility of their fantasy games, and 
 have been getting the typical we're aware of the accessibility issues and are 
 working on it. After this latest experience, I now believe and know that 
 companies like Yahoo could care less when it comes to improving 
 accessibility. If this small entrepreneur was able to make his app accessible 
 how in the world can a billion dollar company like Yahoo take that same 
 technology, implement it in their app, and completely leave out 
 accessibility. My only conclusion is it is they just don't care. ESPN is even 
 worse than Yahoo, as I have tried contacting them about accessibility for 
 five years, and have not once received a response. I find it pathetic that a 
 company like ESPN, which is owned by Disney could care less about 
 implementing any form of accessibility to help allow blind people to use any 
 of their apps. Their website is an absolute nightmare to try and read with a 
 screen reader. If Major League Baseball and other small entrepreneurs can 
 make their apps fully accessible with Voiceover than their is no excuse for a 
 

Re: Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey John,

Thanks for feeling the pain. It's a shame that they still haven't improved the 
accessibility. I have been able to manage my teams in Yahoo on the web using 
several work arounds, but cannot access everything, and just make due with what 
I can. I have used Big Noggins in season app to check my teams daily results 
but can't edit my lineup using Big Noggins app, but I guess that doesn't matter 
anymore since Big Noggins has been acquired I will have to find another way to 
follow my teams moving forward. Just pathetic on Yahoo and ESPN's part.
On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:32 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

   I feel your pain.  I am a big fantasy sports guy, and this is a subject 
 that sends my blood pressure through the roof.  Yahoo has crappy fantasy 
 sports apps in general.  You can’t set your lineups from the iDevice and need 
 to use the web interface.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I 
 wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the 
 big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has 
 opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies.
 
 Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I miss 
 most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. One of 
 the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games anymore 
 is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision has 
 deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology 
 playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. 
 
 The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you build 
 your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java and flash 
 to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow you to 
 participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team 
 starting out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the web 
 and app store I came across an app released by an individual entrepreneur 
 called Big Noggins that was the first app that made it possible for you to 
 draft your ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was so thankful and 
 surprised when the app actually worked with Voiceover. Of course I figured 
 once the live draft started there would probably be some complications with 
 Voiceover. Nope, the app worked perfectly with Voiceover. Amazing, as 
 technology had made my day a little brighter by allowing me to once again 
 participate in a live draft. I know in the big picture this is just fantasy 
 games, but anything that brings you a little enjoyment is a good thing, and 
 I was so thrilled for the past two years to be able to draft my own teams.
 
 With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to 
 draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of 
 the 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no 
 release of the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to Big 
 Noggins website and discovered that his technology that allows people to 
 draft their team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, yahoo is 
 supposedly a forward thinking company when it comes to accessibility. I 
 downloaded Yahoo's 2013 fantasy football app which has been completely 
 retooled for 2013, and now thanks to Big Noggins technology allows Yahoo 
 users for the first time to draft their team on an iPhone. 
 
 Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my 
 live draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even though 
 Yahoo acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in 
 implementing the technology into their own app completely broke its 
 accessibility with Voiceover. Once again leaving blind fantasy sport players 
 in the dark. How could a company as big as Yahoo that claims to care about 
 accessibility break something that once worked? It just goes to show where 
 accessibility falls with a big company. They don't care. For years, I have 
 been speaking with Yahoo about the accessibility of their fantasy games, and 
 have been getting the typical we're aware of the accessibility issues and 
 are working on it. After this latest experience, I now believe and know that 
 companies like Yahoo could care less when it comes to improving 
 accessibility. If this small entrepreneur was able to make his app 
 accessible how in the world can a billion dollar company like Yahoo take 
 that same technology, implement it 

Re: Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread John Panarese
I will gladly buy an app that gives us full accessibility to fantasy 
sports.  I usually have 2 football and 2 hockey teams, so it would be great.  
I’m handling baseball, but have to do all of that on the web.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey John,
 
 Thanks for feeling the pain. It's a shame that they still haven't improved 
 the accessibility. I have been able to manage my teams in Yahoo on the web 
 using several work arounds, but cannot access everything, and just make due 
 with what I can. I have used Big Noggins in season app to check my teams 
 daily results but can't edit my lineup using Big Noggins app, but I guess 
 that doesn't matter anymore since Big Noggins has been acquired I will have 
 to find another way to follow my teams moving forward. Just pathetic on Yahoo 
 and ESPN's part.
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:32 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I feel your pain.  I am a big fantasy sports guy, and this is a subject 
 that sends my blood pressure through the roof.  Yahoo has crappy fantasy 
 sports apps in general.  You can’t set your lineups from the iDevice and 
 need to use the web interface.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I 
 wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the 
 big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has 
 opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies.
 
 Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I 
 miss most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. 
 One of the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games 
 anymore is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision 
 has deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology 
 playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. 
 
 The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you 
 build your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java 
 and flash to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow 
 you to participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team 
 starting out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the web 
 and app store I came across an app released by an individual entrepreneur 
 called Big Noggins that was the first app that made it possible for you to 
 draft your ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was so thankful and 
 surprised when the app actually worked with Voiceover. Of course I figured 
 once the live draft started there would probably be some complications with 
 Voiceover. Nope, the app worked perfectly with Voiceover. Amazing, as 
 technology had made my day a little brighter by allowing me to once again 
 participate in a live draft. I know in the big picture this is just fantasy 
 games, but anything that brings you a little enjoyment is a good thing, and 
 I was so thrilled for the past two years to be able to draft my own teams.
 
 With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to 
 draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of 
 the 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no 
 release of the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to Big 
 Noggins website and discovered that his technology that allows people to 
 draft their team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, yahoo 
 is supposedly a forward thinking company when it comes to accessibility. I 
 downloaded Yahoo's 2013 fantasy football app which has been completely 
 retooled for 2013, and now thanks to Big Noggins technology allows Yahoo 
 users for the first time to draft their team on an iPhone. 
 
 Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my 
 live draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even though 
 Yahoo acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in 
 implementing the technology into their own app completely broke its 
 accessibility with Voiceover. Once again leaving blind fantasy sport 
 players in the dark. How could a company as big as Yahoo that claims to 
 care about accessibility break 

Re: Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
I am not a sports fan like my brothers. However, your comments are not small 
here. I think what is needed is that accessibility, especially for sensory 
accessibility, be required as a course for all computer programmers, including 
those doing iOS. This is because, and I see it in the group that I belong to, 
it never even occurs to those folks what is needed and why something doesn't 
work. A lot of them just plain flat don't get it, and when you have a big group 
of people doing the project, then you are probably going to have a whole bunch 
of them that have not gotten it yet. So, what I think you are looking at, is a 
group of people that sat down and looked at the program that they had gotten, 
and thought some wonderful ideas that would work just great for our sided 
friends. I'll bet they never even thought that someone like you would want to 
play the game

Until programming for sensory disabilities is a required course at universities 
for computer programmers, I think we are going to continue to have our programs 
broken from time to time. We are all busy trying to get companies to recognize 
the importance accessibility, and Apple, for one has done a good job on that. 
However, until we get universities across the board to recognize that, we will 
continue, in my opinion, to have an uphill battle. There are too many people 
out there thinking I think it's too bad that these people can't do anything. 
That's a real shame. We have to get people away from that centuries-old 
mindset, and that is not easy. 
Sincerely,
Gigi
On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I wanted 
 to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the big 
 picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has opened my 
 eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies.
 
 Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I miss 
 most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. One of 
 the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games anymore 
 is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision has 
 deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology 
 playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. 
 
 The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you build 
 your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java and flash 
 to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow you to 
 participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team starting 
 out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the web and app 
 store I came across an app released by an individual entrepreneur called Big 
 Noggins that was the first app that made it possible for you to draft your 
 ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was so thankful and surprised when the 
 app actually worked with Voiceover. Of course I figured once the live draft 
 started there would probably be some complications with Voiceover. Nope, the 
 app worked perfectly with Voiceover. Amazing, as technology had made my day a 
 little brighter by allowing me to once again participate in a live draft. I 
 know in the big picture this is just fantasy games, but anything that brings 
 you a little enjoyment is a good thing, and I was so thrilled for the past 
 two years to be able to draft my own teams.
 
 With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to 
 draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of the 
 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no release of 
 the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to Big Noggins 
 website and discovered that his technology that allows people to draft their 
 team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, yahoo is supposedly a 
 forward thinking company when it comes to accessibility. I downloaded Yahoo's 
 2013 fantasy football app which has been completely retooled for 2013, and 
 now thanks to Big Noggins technology allows Yahoo users for the first time to 
 draft their team on an iPhone. 
 
 Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my 
 live draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even though 
 Yahoo acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in 
 implementing the technology into their own app completely broke its 
 accessibility with Voiceover. Once again leaving blind fantasy sport players 
 in the dark. How could a company as big as Yahoo that claims to care about 
 accessibility break something that once worked? It just goes to show where 
 accessibility falls with a big company. They don't care. For years, I have 
 been speaking with Yahoo about the accessibility of their fantasy games, and 
 have been getting the typical we're aware of the 

Re: Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey John,

I have sent an edited version of my letter to Yahoo fantasy, so we shall see if 
we get a response. I am very bummed about the steps back this year, and Yahoo's 
failure to improve accessibility in this area for several years, even though 
they claim to be aware of it. Should you find something that works with 
Voiceover on the web or iPhone, please do let me know. Big Noggins was like $3 
for the draft app and $5 for the full season app, but they are dead now thanks 
to Yahoo.
On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:46 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

I will gladly buy an app that gives us full accessibility to fantasy 
 sports.  I usually have 2 football and 2 hockey teams, so it would be great.  
 I’m handling baseball, but have to do all of that on the web.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey John,
 
 Thanks for feeling the pain. It's a shame that they still haven't improved 
 the accessibility. I have been able to manage my teams in Yahoo on the web 
 using several work arounds, but cannot access everything, and just make due 
 with what I can. I have used Big Noggins in season app to check my teams 
 daily results but can't edit my lineup using Big Noggins app, but I guess 
 that doesn't matter anymore since Big Noggins has been acquired I will have 
 to find another way to follow my teams moving forward. Just pathetic on 
 Yahoo and ESPN's part.
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:32 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel your pain.  I am a big fantasy sports guy, and this is a subject 
 that sends my blood pressure through the roof.  Yahoo has crappy fantasy 
 sports apps in general.  You can’t set your lineups from the iDevice and 
 need to use the web interface.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I 
 wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the 
 big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has 
 opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies.
 
 Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I 
 miss most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. 
 One of the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games 
 anymore is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision 
 has deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover 
 technology playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. 
 
 The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you 
 build your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java 
 and flash to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow 
 you to participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior 
 team starting out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the 
 web and app store I came across an app released by an individual 
 entrepreneur called Big Noggins that was the first app that made it 
 possible for you to draft your ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was 
 so thankful and surprised when the app actually worked with Voiceover. Of 
 course I figured once the live draft started there would probably be some 
 complications with Voiceover. Nope, the app worked perfectly with 
 Voiceover. Amazing, as technology had made my day a little brighter by 
 allowing me to once again participate in a live draft. I know in the big 
 picture this is just fantasy games, but anything that brings you a little 
 enjoyment is a good thing, and I was so thrilled for the past two years to 
 be able to draft my own teams.
 
 With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to 
 draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of 
 the 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no 
 release of the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to 
 Big Noggins website and discovered that his technology that allows people 
 to draft their team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, 
 yahoo is supposedly a forward thinking company when it comes to 
 accessibility. I downloaded Yahoo's 2013 fantasy football app which has 
 been completely retooled for 2013, and 

Re: Accessibility My Opinion with Yahoo

2013-08-09 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Gigi,

Well put. I know I was only speaking about fantasy games, but wanted to refer 
to the big picture as well, this was just my example, and I think you summed it 
up very well. There are far more important things that need to be made 
accessible to people with all sorts of disabilities. This was just my way of 
chiming in. Thanks again for your thoughts and comments.
On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi there
 I am not a sports fan like my brothers. However, your comments are not small 
 here. I think what is needed is that accessibility, especially for sensory 
 accessibility, be required as a course for all computer programmers, 
 including those doing iOS. This is because, and I see it in the group that I 
 belong to, it never even occurs to those folks what is needed and why 
 something doesn't work. A lot of them just plain flat don't get it, and when 
 you have a big group of people doing the project, then you are probably going 
 to have a whole bunch of them that have not gotten it yet. So, what I think 
 you are looking at, is a group of people that sat down and looked at the 
 program that they had gotten, and thought some wonderful ideas that would 
 work just great for our sided friends. I'll bet they never even thought that 
 someone like you would want to play the game
 
 Until programming for sensory disabilities is a required course at 
 universities for computer programmers, I think we are going to continue to 
 have our programs broken from time to time. We are all busy trying to get 
 companies to recognize the importance accessibility, and Apple, for one has 
 done a good job on that. However, until we get universities across the board 
 to recognize that, we will continue, in my opinion, to have an uphill battle. 
 There are too many people out there thinking I think it's too bad that these 
 people can't do anything. That's a real shame. We have to get people away 
 from that centuries-old mindset, and that is not easy. 
 Sincerely,
 Gigi
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I 
 wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the 
 big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has 
 opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies.
 
 Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I miss 
 most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. One of 
 the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games anymore 
 is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision has 
 deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology 
 playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. 
 
 The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you build 
 your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java and flash 
 to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow you to 
 participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team 
 starting out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the web 
 and app store I came across an app released by an individual entrepreneur 
 called Big Noggins that was the first app that made it possible for you to 
 draft your ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was so thankful and 
 surprised when the app actually worked with Voiceover. Of course I figured 
 once the live draft started there would probably be some complications with 
 Voiceover. Nope, the app worked perfectly with Voiceover. Amazing, as 
 technology had made my day a little brighter by allowing me to once again 
 participate in a live draft. I know in the big picture this is just fantasy 
 games, but anything that brings you a little enjoyment is a good thing, and 
 I was so thrilled for the past two years to be able to draft my own teams.
 
 With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to 
 draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of 
 the 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no 
 release of the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to Big 
 Noggins website and discovered that his technology that allows people to 
 draft their team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, yahoo is 
 supposedly a forward thinking company when it comes to accessibility. I 
 downloaded Yahoo's 2013 fantasy football app which has been completely 
 retooled for 2013, and now thanks to Big Noggins technology allows Yahoo 
 users for the first time to draft their team on an iPhone. 
 
 Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my 
 live draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even though 
 Yahoo acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in 
 implementing the technology into their own