Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Alex compact, from what I can tell, is a version of Alex from a few versions ago. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, IOS and Windows Trainer JAWS for windows Certified - 2016 Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140 U.S. phone: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com > On Nov 14, 2017, at 11:57, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: > > Hi Karen, > > I agree and believe that Apple Accessibility has been notified. That > shouldn't stop anyone from adding their voice to the problem though. Mostly, > all that I was saying, was that after you know the issue, it's not a big deal > of a workaround. I've certainly had much more problematic workarounds to > either determine, or remedy. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:44, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > > Tim, > How would a user even know to look there given the label though? After all, > as I understand it the voice quality on other devices is degrading, so > they might think the quality is poor and cannot be fixed. > So, without a clear indicator that activities, which could mean any number > of things, for example a place to assign voices to certain tasks, actually > refers to advanced voices, why would anyone check? > Just a thought, but if I had a mac, I would tell apple accessibility that > the label is needlessly confusing...but that is me. > Kare > > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The "Activities", from the prospective of many, is a mislabelled scroll >> area. In previous versions of MacOS, this area was known as the Additional >> Voices area, but now is labelled as Activities. Confusing for some, but >> once you know what is inside that Scroll area, then immaterial. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:11, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Voiceover Utility, Speech category, Voices tab, Activities scroll area. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 11/14/2017 8:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to >>> find this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. >>> Mary >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its >>>> not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS >>>> it will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>> So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on >>>>> intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a >>>>> little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot >>>>>> really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? >>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>> Hi E.T., >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, >>>>>>> not in my opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have >>>>>>> thought to look any further than the voice activity table. >>>>>> >>>>>>> To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was >>>>>>> some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact >>>>>>> version. (smile) >>>>>> >>&
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Hi Karen, I agree and believe that Apple Accessibility has been notified. That shouldn't stop anyone from adding their voice to the problem though. Mostly, all that I was saying, was that after you know the issue, it's not a big deal of a workaround. I've certainly had much more problematic workarounds to either determine, or remedy. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:44, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: Tim, How would a user even know to look there given the label though? After all, as I understand it the voice quality on other devices is degrading, so they might think the quality is poor and cannot be fixed. So, without a clear indicator that activities, which could mean any number of things, for example a place to assign voices to certain tasks, actually refers to advanced voices, why would anyone check? Just a thought, but if I had a mac, I would tell apple accessibility that the label is needlessly confusing...but that is me. Kare On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > The "Activities", from the prospective of many, is a mislabelled scroll area. > In previous versions of MacOS, this area was known as the Additional Voices > area, but now is labelled as Activities. Confusing for some, but once you > know what is inside that Scroll area, then immaterial. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:11, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Voiceover Utility, Speech category, Voices tab, Activities scroll area. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 11/14/2017 8:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to find >> this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. >> Mary >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its >>> not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS >>> it will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>> So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on >>>> intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a >>>> little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone >>>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot >>>>> really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? >>>>> Original message: >>>>>> Hi E.T., >>>>> >>>>>> Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, >>>>>> not in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>>> Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have >>>>>> thought to look any further than the voice activity table. >>>>> >>>>>> To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was >>>>>> some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact >>>>>> version. (smile) >>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? >>>>> >>>>>> Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, >>>>>> doesn't it? >>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Tim, How would a user even know to look there given the label though? After all, as I understand it the voice quality on other devices is degrading, so they might think the quality is poor and cannot be fixed. So, without a clear indicator that activities, which could mean any number of things, for example a place to assign voices to certain tasks, actually refers to advanced voices, why would anyone check? Just a thought, but if I had a mac, I would tell apple accessibility that the label is needlessly confusing...but that is me. Kare On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, The "Activities", from the prospective of many, is a mislabelled scroll area. In previous versions of MacOS, this area was known as the Additional Voices area, but now is labelled as Activities. Confusing for some, but once you know what is inside that Scroll area, then immaterial. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:11, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Voiceover Utility, Speech category, Voices tab, Activities scroll area. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 8:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to find this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS it will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? Original message: Hi E.T., Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not in my opinion. Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought to look any further than the voice activity table. To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a memb
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Indeed and the more feedback Apple receives, the better. There is at least one other mislabeled button but its not related to this topic. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 8:16 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, The "Activities", from the prospective of many, is a mislabelled scroll area. In previous versions of MacOS, this area was known as the Additional Voices area, but now is labelled as Activities. Confusing for some, but once you know what is inside that Scroll area, then immaterial. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:11, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Voiceover Utility, Speech category, Voices tab, Activities scroll area. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 8:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to find this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS it will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? Original message: Hi E.T., Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not in my opinion. Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought to look any further than the voice activity table. To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visi
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Hi, The "Activities", from the prospective of many, is a mislabelled scroll area. In previous versions of MacOS, this area was known as the Additional Voices area, but now is labelled as Activities. Confusing for some, but once you know what is inside that Scroll area, then immaterial. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 14, 2017, at 09:11, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Voiceover Utility, Speech category, Voices tab, Activities scroll area. >From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 8:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to find > this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. > Mary > Sent from my iPhone >> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its >> not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS it >> will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >>> So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on >>> intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a >>> little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone >>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot >>>> really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? >>>> Original message: >>>>> Hi E.T., >>>> >>>>> Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, >>>>> not in my opinion. >>>> >>>>> Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have >>>>> thought to look any further than the voice activity table. >>>> >>>>> To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some >>>>> kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. >>>>> (smile) >>>> >>>>> Mark >>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? >>>> >>>>>Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, >>>>> doesn't it? >>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>>> On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>>> Hello E.T., >>>> >>>>>> Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. >>>> >>>>>> Woo! What a relief. (smile) >>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? >>>> >>>>>> You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and >>>>>> find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. >>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>>>our
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Voiceover Utility, Speech category, Voices tab, Activities scroll area. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 8:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to find this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS it will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? Original message: Hi E.T., Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not in my opinion. Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought to look any further than the voice activity table. To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questio
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
I think the person was asking for a little bit more direction on how to find this activity area, having in fact done the upgrade. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:50 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its not > intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS it will > not matter. Just saying. (smiles) > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >> So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on >> intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a >> little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone >>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>> >>> I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot >>> really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? >>> Original message: >>>> Hi E.T., >>> >>>> Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not >>>> in my opinion. >>> >>>> Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have >>>> thought to look any further than the voice activity table. >>> >>>> To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some >>>> kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. >>>> (smile) >>> >>>> Mark >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? >>> >>>>Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, >>>> doesn't it? >>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>>> On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>> Hello E.T., >>> >>>>> Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. >>> >>>>> Woo! What a relief. (smile) >>> >>>>> Mark >>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? >>> >>>>> You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and >>>>> find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. >>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>>>> On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>>>>> I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. >>>>>> Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind >>>>>> of. >>>>>> (smile). >>> >>>>>> Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS >>>>>> is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? >>> >>>>>> If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain >>>>>> the non-compact version? >>> >>>>>> All replies welcomed. >>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>> >>>>>> Mark >>> >>> >>>
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
No secrecy whatsoever. Its a change in High Sierra is all. As such, its not intuitive until you work in that area. If you have not upgraded to HS it will not matter. Just saying. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 7:45 AM, Phil Halton wrote: So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? Original message: Hi E.T., Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not in my opinion. Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought to look any further than the voice activity table. To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
So, why the veil of secrecy about this activities area? If it so on intuitive, and frankly I’ve never heard of it, maybe you could explain a little bit about it and how to get there. Just saying. Sent from my IPhone > On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: > > I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot really > tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? > Original message: >> Hi E.T., > >> Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not >> in my opinion. > >> Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought >> to look any further than the voice activity table. > >> To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some >> kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. >> (smile) > >> Mark > >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? > >>Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, >> doesn't it? > >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>> On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> Hello E.T., > >>> Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. > >>> Woo! What a relief. (smile) > >>> Mark > >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? > >>> You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and >>> find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. > >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>>> On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> Hello Everyone, > >>>> I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. >>>> Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. >>>> (smile). > >>>> Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS >>>> is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? > >>>> If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain >>>> the non-compact version? > >>>> All replies welcomed. > >>>> Thank you, > >>>> Mark > > >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>> mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is >>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
I've compared the compact and high quality versions of Alex and cannot really tell a difference, can anyone else tell a difference? Original message: Hi E.T., Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not in my opinion. Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought to look any further than the voice activity table. To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Ca
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Yes all the voices are present in that area. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/14/2017 5:15 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Is that where all voice downloads are located? I have been traveling the last two weeks and have avoided upgrading my MBA until my wife has resolved her issues with mail indexing that appeared in El Capitan and still plague her in High Sierra. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries&q
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Is that where all voice downloads are located? I have been traveling the last two weeks and have avoided upgrading my MBA until my wife has resolved her issues with mail indexing that appeared in El Capitan and still plague her in High Sierra. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Hello E.T., > > Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. > > Woo! What a relief. (smile) > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? > >You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find > the enhanced version of Alex and download it. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. >> Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. >> (smile). >> >> Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS >> is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? >> >> If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the >> non-compact version? >> >> All replies welcomed. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mark >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Hi E.T., Well, I'll say this, the process is certainly not intuitive, at least, not in my opinion. Were it not for your quick reply to my question, I would never have thought to look any further than the voice activity table. To be even more honest, I thought that the label, Alex, Compact, was some kind of VoiceOver typo. I had no idea that Alex had a compact version. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello E.T., > > Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. > > Woo! What a relief. (smile) > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? > > You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and > find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. >> Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. >> (smile). >> >> Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS >> is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? >> >> If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain >> the non-compact version? >> >> All replies welcomed. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mark >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators di
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Glad to hear it, Mark. It seems it takes a lot to get down in there, doesn't it? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Hello E.T., Okay, got it. I am downloading it now. Woo! What a relief. (smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct? You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. > Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. > (smile). > > Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS > is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? > > If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the > non-compact version? > > All replies welcomed. > > Thank you, > > Mark > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
You will need to drill deep into the what Apple calls Activities and find the enhanced version of Alex and download it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 11/13/2017 7:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Alex, Compact? Is this Correct?
Hello Everyone, I made the big plunge and installed High Sierra on my primary partition. Everything is working well except that Alex sounds a bit strange, kind of. (smile). Anyway, upon exploring VoiceOver utility, I noticed that the Alex TTS is listed as Alex, Compact. Can this be right? If there are now two separate Alex voices, how, then, can I obtain the non-compact version? All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
