Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much right? I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen to me but to others who have actually done it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
RE: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
If you already have Windows installed via bootcamp, you can then install VM Fussion and just point to the boot camp partition as your virtual machine. You don't have to reinstall Windows. Unfortunately this does not work the other way around. You can not use a virtual machine that has already been set up on a boot camp partition. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
hello phil, when I did it was pretty straight forward, but there is a detail to watch out. if you install it and use quick install, which is what I did, there will be a loint when you will press the finish button. This does to mean your windows is installed, so if you take the cd out right there you're messed up and will need to start it all again. after you press the finish button, ask a sighted person to peer at your screen to tell you when it is actually done. the only thing they will actually do though is install your first screen reader on windows. as far os installing vmware will do it all. thanks mauricio On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance. I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it took us 2 hours from start to finish. That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-) - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much right? I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen to me but to others who have actually done it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Thanks Tommy, are there any problems with the latest version of VMWare Fusion? Do I just buy and install Fusion5 from the app store? - Original Message - From: Tommy Craig tecrai...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: RE: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 If you already have Windows installed via bootcamp, you can then install VM Fussion and just point to the boot camp partition as your virtual machine. You don't have to reinstall Windows. Unfortunately this does not work the other way around. You can not use a virtual machine that has already been set up on a boot camp partition. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
RE: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
I haven't gotten around to upgrading to Fussion 5 yet but I haven't heard anyone complaining about it. I've always downloaded it straight from the VMWare website which can be a bit confusing. I'm not sure if it is available in the app store. They also have a thirty day free trial available if your interested. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Thanks Tommy, are there any problems with the latest version of VMWare Fusion? Do I just buy and install Fusion5 from the app store? - Original Message - From: Tommy Craig tecrai...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: RE: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 If you already have Windows installed via bootcamp, you can then install VM Fussion and just point to the boot camp partition as your virtual machine. You don't have to reinstall Windows. Unfortunately this does not work the other way around. You can not use a virtual machine that has already been set up on a boot camp partition. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry
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I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually but right now I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance. I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it took us 2 hours from start to finish. That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-) - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much right? I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen to me but to others who have actually done it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money
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I think you'll like win7 alot compared to XP - I know I do. - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually but right now I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance. I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it took us 2 hours from start to finish. That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-) - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much right? I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen to me but to others who have actually done it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether
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hello there, if you have any questions about seven, e-mail me privately. i will be more than glad to assist you in the transition, it is part of the consulting i did in brazil a few years back when seven came out. best regards, mauricio On Oct 6, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually but right now I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance. I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it took us 2 hours from start to finish. That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-) - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much right? I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen to me but to others who have actually done it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can
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hello i read your email and would like some help if you don't mind and to let you know i am very new and compleatly useless at the moment so any help would be helpful so step by step instructions from the desk top would be great or phase time me and i will hopefully be able to answer it so you can contact me using my email address thanks in advance le Wayne Coles wayne...@gmail.com On 6 Oct 2012, at 18:36, Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hello there, if you have any questions about seven, e-mail me privately. i will be more than glad to assist you in the transition, it is part of the consulting i did in brazil a few years back when seven came out. best regards, mauricio On Oct 6, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually but right now I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance. I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it took us 2 hours from start to finish. That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-) - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much right? I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen to me but to others who have actually done it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually install windows during the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? Is VO up and talking through the process? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf
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It just seems easier not to have to learn a whole new software package (I'm refering to VMWare) to run windows for now. I'm hoping that later, once I've become familiar with windows7 (I use XP), I'll be able to import my bootcamp into a VMWare virtual environment. Also, it's bound to run faster in bootcamp, and I assume there'll be less complexity as well. BTW: is that possible? will I be able to bring the bootcamped windows7 into a virtual VMWare machine? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi Phil, Thanks very much for letting me know and also for providing the link. Let us know how it goes for you. Is there a reason that you've decided not to use a virtual machine instead? Regards, Harry On oct 4, 2012, at 8:44 p.m., Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tomorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Just installed bootcamp/windows7 today. Went smooth as warm milk through a puppy! I've installed Microsoft Security Essentials so far and now I'm all about learning the new quirks introduced in windows7 from windows XP - should take about a day or so I guess. Found some good win7 tutorial podcasts on BCT. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Since I am not familiar with boot camp in the slightest, I couldn't venture a guess, so maybe someone else can offer an opinion. But yes, I'm sure that it would probably run faster. it would be a native Windows environment in that case, as a matter of fact. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 7:16 a.m., Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: It just seems easier not to have to learn a whole new software package (I'm referring to VMWare) to run windows for now. I'm hoping that later, once I've become familiar with windows7 (I use XP), I'll be able to import my bootcamp into a VMWare virtual environment. Also, it's bound to run faster in bootcamp, and I assume there'll be less complexity as well. BTW: is that possible? will I be able to bring the bootcamped windows7 into a virtual VMWare machine? - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi Phil, Thanks very much for letting me know and also for providing the link. Let us know how it goes for you. Is there a reason that you've decided not to use a virtual machine instead? Regards, Harry On oct 4, 2012, at 8:44 p.m., Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tomorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
hello harry, From my experience (i have used vmware and switched to booth camp as my machine doesn't do well with both as it's kind of old) you have to reinstall windows yes. though there might be a way of installing booth camp using an image instead of an installation disc. if there is, unfortunately i can't help you there, as I am totally unaware on how it works. thanks mauricio On Oct 6, 2012, at 1:31 AM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I have to reinstall it, do you know? Thanks. Harry On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: hi harry, booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of windows. I found it to be definitely worth it. Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have windows. it can come in handy. mauricio On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2
Hi Phil, Thanks very much for letting me know and also for providing the link. Let us know how it goes for you. Is there a reason that you've decided not to use a virtual machine instead? Regards, Harry On oct 4, 2012, at 8:44 p.m., Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Harry, I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tomorrow morning. It looks quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that point. You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website www.blackviper.com search his site for windows 7 install. I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly tomorrow. P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for that doc. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 Hi all, I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy. Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both portiosn of the post are. Regards, harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
