Re: Bypass Trash

2015-01-27 Thread Angus MacKinnon 
The Command + Shift +Back Space key stroke does not work for me in OS 10.9.5.

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Re: Bypass Trash

2015-01-27 Thread John Panarese 
   Right. I forgot about the option key.  I personally think it's better to 
have the safety mechanism of going to the Trash first. I have accidentally 
deleted my share of items without realizing it until later so the command-z to 
undo the command wasn't available at that point.


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> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The cmd-shift-delete does not do that.  You can have the GUI ignore the “Are 
> You Sure” dialog when emptying the trash by using cmd-option-shift-delete 
> reducing one step along the way.  In my opinion, opening Terminal and using 
> the “rm” command also does not actually make it any faster as the poster is 
> hoping.  It would take more keystrokes to change to the Terminal app, enter 
> the “rm” command followed by the file path, than a quick cmd-delete to put 
> the item in the Trash, then a cmd-option-shift-delete to empty it.  I recall 
> a thread a number of years back somewhere on the Net where people were 
> discussing the same sort of thing.  Some folks think it’s better the Windows 
> way, others prefer the safety of the Apple way, it’s all a matter of opinion, 
> I guess.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 07:06, Erik Heil  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> This problem is solved simply.  If go into the terminal, and use the "rm" 
>> command in order to delete your files, they are not moved to the ~.trash 
>> directory. Unfortunately, their doesn't seem to be a way to change this 
>> behavior from within the GUI, but perhaps other users will correct me. Hope 
>> this helps.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:27 AM, The Believer  
>> wrote:
>>Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently delete a 
>> file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety measure but 
>> there are times its an unnecessary extra step.
>> 
>>Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or are 
>> there other apps that are better?
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
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>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Bypass Trash

2015-01-27 Thread Marshall Scott 
Hi,
I believe you can set up the Empty Trash function to perform a secure erase 
where the deleted data is overwritten.  You pay a time penalty to do this but 
it will be more secure.
Marshall

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 11:27 PM, The Believer  wrote:
> 
> Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently delete a file. 
> It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety measure but there 
> are times its an unnecessary extra step.
> 
> Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or are there 
> other apps that are better?
> 
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Re: Bypass Trash

2015-01-27 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

The cmd-shift-delete does not do that.  You can have the GUI ignore the “Are 
You Sure” dialog when emptying the trash by using cmd-option-shift-delete 
reducing one step along the way.  In my opinion, opening Terminal and using the 
“rm” command also does not actually make it any faster as the poster is hoping. 
 It would take more keystrokes to change to the Terminal app, enter the “rm” 
command followed by the file path, than a quick cmd-delete to put the item in 
the Trash, then a cmd-option-shift-delete to empty it.  I recall a thread a 
number of years back somewhere on the Net where people were discussing the same 
sort of thing.  Some folks think it’s better the Windows way, others prefer the 
safety of the Apple way, it’s all a matter of opinion, I guess.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 07:06, Erik Heil  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> This problem is solved simply.  If go into the terminal, and use the "rm" 
> command in order to delete your files, they are not moved to the ~.trash 
> directory. Unfortunately, their doesn't seem to be a way to change this 
> behavior from within the GUI, but perhaps other users will correct me. Hope 
> this helps.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:27 AM, The Believer  > wrote:
>Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently delete a 
> file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety measure but 
> there are times its an unnecessary extra step.
> 
>Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or are 
> there other apps that are better?
> 
> From The Believer. . .
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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Re: Bypass Trash

2015-01-27 Thread John Panarese 
   I believe if you use command-shift-backspace, that bypasses the Trash and 
purges the file.  At least, prior to Mavericks, it worked. I always send to the 
Trash first, but I believe you still can bypass this.


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> On Jan 27, 2015, at 1:27 AM, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently delete a 
> file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety measure but 
> there are times its an unnecessary extra step.
> 
>   Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or are 
> there other apps that are better?
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Bypass Trash

2015-01-27 Thread Erik Heil 
Hello,
This problem is solved simply.  If go into the terminal, and use the "rm"
command in order to delete your files, they are not moved to the ~.trash
directory. Unfortunately, their doesn't seem to be a way to change this
behavior from within the GUI, but perhaps other users will correct me. Hope
this helps.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:27 AM, The Believer 
wrote:

>Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently delete a
> file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety measure but
> there are times its an unnecessary extra step.
>
>Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or are
> there other apps that are better?
>
> From The Believer. . .
>  . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Bypass Trash

2015-01-26 Thread The Believer 
   Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently 
delete a file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety 
measure but there are times its an unnecessary extra step.


   Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or 
are there other apps that are better?


From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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