Re: Confusion with multilingual Macs

2010-06-16 Thread Michael Busboom
Hello Anne,

I would like to thank you for responding so quickly to my questions.  I went to 
the AssistiveWare site and was presented with many choices.  Not wanting to 
place an order again, only to find out that I downloaded the wrong thing, I 
will ask you another question or two.  By the way, we can take this off list if 
the content is boring to others.

On the AssistiveWare site, I came across two different possibilities that might 
work.  By the way, I purchased Ghost Reader a year ago when I got my Mac Book 
and haven't used it once, so your comments on how you use it might be helpful, 
provided I purchase the right software now.

One link on the page is for Infovox iVox for US$ and Euro 99.

The other link says: Infovox iVox Language Pack / additional language pack, 
additional Infovox iVox voices in one language of choice for 49.50 Euros for a 
single user license.  Which one of these two should I purchase if I want German 
speech whenever I need it, not just in Ghost Reader?  Why would one of these 
packages be fifty Euros more expensive than the other?  I am thinking that I 
probably want to buy the more expensive package, don't I?

Thanks so much, Anne, and best regards,

Mike



On 15,Jun,2010, at 5:50 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 You need to go to the AssistiveWare site:
 www.assistiveware.com
 That is where you buy the German voices. You should also consider getting 
 GhostReader at the same time for an extra €10 or whatever it is in dollars.
 
 Ghostreader is great for reading documents, and it allows you to jump forward 
 and backward by paragraph. It will also run in the background while you work 
 on another document. I use it this way when translating. I have GhostReader 
 reading the original while I create the translation in a Pages document.
 
 Make sure you buy the full versions of the voices since GhostReader is also 
 sold with versions that don't work with VoiceOver.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
   Hello everyone,
 
 I have received so much help from this list and in all honesty, I had hoped 
 that after a year of owning a Mac, I'd be giving more than taking.  I am 
 enjoying my Mac and gaining more proficiency with it all the time, using it 
 for the majority of my private things and integrating it into my work 
 environment whenever possible.
 
 I recently accepted a job position in which I will be required to write in 
 German extensively, something which I have thus far not done with the Mac.  
 I need some assistance making my Mac speak German, and I have some specific 
 questions for anyone who can help after I supply some background information.
 
 While at Sight City in May, I received a demo version of some fantastic 
 German software.  I believe that it was Infovox German.  The German TTS also 
 came bundled with an English voice as well.  Unfortunately, for several 
 reasons, the 30-day trial period expired before I had the opportunity to buy 
 the software.  When I tried to launch the German some 45 days after 
 installing it, all I was told was that my trial period had expired.  
 However, I was not given the name of the software, nor was I provided a link 
 where I could go and purchase and install the unlocked version.
 
 A kind friend who wanted to assist me helped me find some German TTS's on an 
 Acapella site but after making the purchase and going to the download link, 
 it turned out that, although the TTS was a German voice named Sarah, this 
 was a windows software package.  The company refunded my money.
 
 I would very much like and need to unlock the software that is on my Mac 
 because it works with Voice Over, and it really is quite good.
 
 Below is some of the correspondence I received from the company, but it 
 still leaves me unclear as to precisely what I need to order to have Voice 
 Over speaking German on my Mac.
 
 Kindest regards and if anyone can offer some assistance, please read on.
 
 Mike
 
 Michael Busboom wrote:
 Hi Beth,
 So just to make sure:  If I order the German Cepstral voices, they will work 
 with
 Voice Over?  Is this correct?  In all truthfulness, I am not even sure if I 
 am interested
 in Ghost Reader.  Although I have purchased it, I have never used it.  
 However, I
 need to be able to use my Mac and write letters and answer e-mails in 
 German; this
 is crucial!
 Kindest regards and thank you,
 Mike
 On 2010-06-14 17:30, Beth Thorpe wrote:
 Michael,
 We offer two Text to Speech options for use with mac.  Both will include a 
 language
 set of your choice.  You can find details about these at:
 http://www.nextup.com/mac.html
 The GhostReader software will also allow you to add a 2nd language set for 
 an additional
 $20.00 which may be attractive to you.  The only problem I can foresee is 
 that these
 voices will not work in other applications as you have noted as necessary.
 The Cepstral voices that I recommended earlier are, however, will work with 

Confusion with multilingual Macs

2010-06-15 Thread Michael Busboom

Hello everyone,

I have received so much help from this list and in all honesty, I had 
hoped that after a year of owning a Mac, I'd be giving more than 
taking.  I am enjoying my Mac and gaining more proficiency with it all 
the time, using it for the majority of my private things and integrating 
it into my work environment whenever possible.


I recently accepted a job position in which I will be required to write 
in German extensively, something which I have thus far not done with the 
Mac.  I need some assistance making my Mac speak German, and I have some 
specific questions for anyone who can help after I supply some 
background information.


While at Sight City in May, I received a demo version of some fantastic 
German software.  I believe that it was Infovox German.  The German TTS 
also came bundled with an English voice as well.  Unfortunately, for 
several reasons, the 30-day trial period expired before I had the 
opportunity to buy the software.  When I tried to launch the German some 
45 days after installing it, all I was told was that my trial period had 
expired.  However, I was not given the name of the software, nor was I 
provided a link where I could go and purchase and install the unlocked 
version.


A kind friend who wanted to assist me helped me find some German TTS's 
on an Acapella site but after making the purchase and going to the 
download link, it turned out that, although the TTS was a German voice 
named Sarah, this was a windows software package.  The company refunded 
my money.


I would very much like and need to unlock the software that is on my Mac 
because it works with Voice Over, and it really is quite good.


Below is some of the correspondence I received from the company, but it 
still leaves me unclear as to precisely what I need to order to have 
Voice Over speaking German on my Mac.


Kindest regards and if anyone can offer some assistance, please read on.

Mike

Michael Busboom wrote:
Hi Beth,
So just to make sure:  If I order the German Cepstral voices, they will 
work with
Voice Over?  Is this correct?  In all truthfulness, I am not even sure 
if I am interested
in Ghost Reader.  Although I have purchased it, I have never used it.  
However, I
need to be able to use my Mac and write letters and answer e-mails in 
German; this

is crucial!
Kindest regards and thank you,
Mike
On 2010-06-14 17:30, Beth Thorpe wrote:
Michael,
We offer two Text to Speech options for use with mac.  Both will include 
a language

set of your choice.  You can find details about these at:
http://www.nextup.com/mac.html
The GhostReader software will also allow you to add a 2nd language set 
for an additional
$20.00 which may be attractive to you.  The only problem I can foresee 
is that these

voices will not work in other applications as you have noted as necessary.
The Cepstral voices that I recommended earlier are, however, will work 
with any application.

Let me know if this does not answer your question completely.
Regards,
Beth Thorpe
NextUp.com
Listen and Learn Anywhere
http://www.NextUp.com
** TextAloud - The world's most popular Text To Speech tool.
http://www.nextup.com/TextAloud/
Michael Busboom wrote:
Dear Beth,
Thank you for responding to me so quickly.  In order not to make a 
similar mistake,
I feel that I should be more specific and err on the side of being 
overly thorough

than not being specific enough.
I need the German voice in order to use Voice Over, the built-in screen 
reading software
that comes with every Mac Book.  It not only has to work in one specific 
program
such as Ghost Reader; it should work in all programs where Voice Over 
renders the

screen content accessible.
One blind German person who uses the software told me that when I 
purchased the German
TTS that worked with Voice Over, one very good English voice was also 
supplied as
part of the download.  Is this true?  Since I do about 75% of my work in 
English,

this wouldn't be a bad thing.
Kindest regards from Vienna, Austria,
Mike
On 12,Jun,2010, at 1:45 AM, Beth Thorpe wrote:
Michael,
I do apologize if there was any confusion with your order.  We do 
actually sell voices
that will work with Mac.  There is one good German voice, Katrin you may 
like.  You

will find these details at:
http://www.nextup.com/Cepstral.html
With regards to your current order, I will have that refunded.  You will 
need to

enter a new order if you find another voice that you prefer.
Please let me know if I may be of further assistance.
Regards,
Beth Thorpe

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Re: Confusion with multilingual Macs

2010-06-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Michael,

You need to go to the AssistiveWare site:
www.assistiveware.com
That is where you buy the German voices. You should also consider getting 
GhostReader at the same time for an extra €10 or whatever it is in dollars.

Ghostreader is great for reading documents, and it allows you to jump forward 
and backward by paragraph. It will also run in the background while you work on 
another document. I use it this way when translating. I have GhostReader 
reading the original while I create the translation in a Pages document.

Make sure you buy the full versions of the voices since GhostReader is also 
sold with versions that don't work with VoiceOver.

Cheers,

Anne

On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:

Hello everyone,
 
 I have received so much help from this list and in all honesty, I had hoped 
 that after a year of owning a Mac, I'd be giving more than taking.  I am 
 enjoying my Mac and gaining more proficiency with it all the time, using it 
 for the majority of my private things and integrating it into my work 
 environment whenever possible.
 
 I recently accepted a job position in which I will be required to write in 
 German extensively, something which I have thus far not done with the Mac.  I 
 need some assistance making my Mac speak German, and I have some specific 
 questions for anyone who can help after I supply some background information.
 
 While at Sight City in May, I received a demo version of some fantastic 
 German software.  I believe that it was Infovox German.  The German TTS also 
 came bundled with an English voice as well.  Unfortunately, for several 
 reasons, the 30-day trial period expired before I had the opportunity to buy 
 the software.  When I tried to launch the German some 45 days after 
 installing it, all I was told was that my trial period had expired.  However, 
 I was not given the name of the software, nor was I provided a link where I 
 could go and purchase and install the unlocked version.
 
 A kind friend who wanted to assist me helped me find some German TTS's on an 
 Acapella site but after making the purchase and going to the download link, 
 it turned out that, although the TTS was a German voice named Sarah, this was 
 a windows software package.  The company refunded my money.
 
 I would very much like and need to unlock the software that is on my Mac 
 because it works with Voice Over, and it really is quite good.
 
 Below is some of the correspondence I received from the company, but it still 
 leaves me unclear as to precisely what I need to order to have Voice Over 
 speaking German on my Mac.
 
 Kindest regards and if anyone can offer some assistance, please read on.
 
 Mike
 
 Michael Busboom wrote:
 Hi Beth,
 So just to make sure:  If I order the German Cepstral voices, they will work 
 with
 Voice Over?  Is this correct?  In all truthfulness, I am not even sure if I 
 am interested
 in Ghost Reader.  Although I have purchased it, I have never used it.  
 However, I
 need to be able to use my Mac and write letters and answer e-mails in German; 
 this
 is crucial!
 Kindest regards and thank you,
 Mike
 On 2010-06-14 17:30, Beth Thorpe wrote:
 Michael,
 We offer two Text to Speech options for use with mac.  Both will include a 
 language
 set of your choice.  You can find details about these at:
 http://www.nextup.com/mac.html
 The GhostReader software will also allow you to add a 2nd language set for an 
 additional
 $20.00 which may be attractive to you.  The only problem I can foresee is 
 that these
 voices will not work in other applications as you have noted as necessary.
 The Cepstral voices that I recommended earlier are, however, will work with 
 any application.
 Let me know if this does not answer your question completely.
 Regards,
 Beth Thorpe
 NextUp.com
 Listen and Learn Anywhere
 http://www.NextUp.com
 ** TextAloud - The world's most popular Text To Speech tool.
 http://www.nextup.com/TextAloud/
 Michael Busboom wrote:
 Dear Beth,
 Thank you for responding to me so quickly.  In order not to make a similar 
 mistake,
 I feel that I should be more specific and err on the side of being overly 
 thorough
 than not being specific enough.
 I need the German voice in order to use Voice Over, the built-in screen 
 reading software
 that comes with every Mac Book.  It not only has to work in one specific 
 program
 such as Ghost Reader; it should work in all programs where Voice Over renders 
 the
 screen content accessible.
 One blind German person who uses the software told me that when I purchased 
 the German
 TTS that worked with Voice Over, one very good English voice was also 
 supplied as
 part of the download.  Is this true?  Since I do about 75% of my work in 
 English,
 this wouldn't be a bad thing.
 Kindest regards from Vienna, Austria,
 Mike
 On 12,Jun,2010, at 1:45 AM, Beth Thorpe wrote:
 Michael,
 I do apologize if there was any confusion with your order.  We do actually 
 sell voices
 that will