Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
If it's off topic, a mod will step in and say so. that's not our job to do. 
Second of all, I don't feel it's OT as we're discussing Bootcamp, which 
indeed is Apple, and indeed does run with Voiceover through the initial 
setup, and, um... is an apple product, thank you very much.


If there's a problem, write me off list. I'm not starting a warflame on 
list.


Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Moore" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


I don't mean to be rude guys, bud isn't it off topic for a Apple Mac list to 
discuss how to install Windows 7?

On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:29, Red.Falcon wrote:


Hi Chris!
Sorry but someone else posted about the sighted help!
They snuck in and if you still have the older post's you can see who it 
was I think it was someone called Cody!

hth Colin

On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:11, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:

You initially said:

this next screen will be for the

partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is 
alt+D


So I'm kind a confused here.

Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to 
tab around to get to the list of Partitions?


If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my 
OSX volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been 
doing every blasted time I try in the past.


I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this 
correctly first go.


Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp 
partition. I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to 
create the partition.


I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for 
Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.


So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the 
bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very 
confused.


Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.

further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, 
unless I over-looked it, which is possible.


Thanks.

Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with 
your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that 
is still a bit grey to me.


Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.

Chris.
----- Original Message - From: "Georges Zaynoun" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.

From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is

impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
accomplish the goal.
Original message:

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?



Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 
100%

on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I 
gotta

do.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be 
enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into 
the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the 
first

screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, 
press

alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, 
then

format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is 
alt+D
b

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Chris Moore
I don't mean to be rude guys, bud isn't it off topic for a Apple Mac list to 
discuss how to install Windows 7?
On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:29, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Chris!
> Sorry but someone else posted about the sighted help!
> They snuck in and if you still have the older post's you can see who it was I 
> think it was someone called Cody!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:11, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:
>> 
>> You initially said:
>> 
>> this next screen will be for the
>>> partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
>>> format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
>>> thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
>>> list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
>> 
>> So I'm kind a confused here.
>> 
>> Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to tab 
>> around to get to the list of Partitions?
>> 
>> If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX 
>> volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing every 
>> blasted time I try in the past.
>> 
>> I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this 
>> correctly first go.
>> 
>> Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp partition. 
>> I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the 
>> partition.
>> 
>> I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for 
>> Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.
>> 
>> So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the 
>> bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very 
>> confused.
>> 
>> Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.
>> 
>> further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, unless 
>> I over-looked it, which is possible.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with 
>> your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that is 
>> still a bit grey to me.
>> 
>> Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> - Original Message - From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.
>>> From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is
>> impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
>> accomplish the goal.
>> Original message:
>>> Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?
>> 
>>> Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
>>> did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
>>> rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
>>> sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 100%
>>> on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
>>> manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I gotta
>>> do.
>> 
>>> Chris.
>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.
>> 
>> 
>>> The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
>>> format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
>>> to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
>>> oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
>>> Original message:
>>>> You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
>>>> bootcamp
>>>> assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
>>>> for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
>>>> windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
>>>> screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
>>>> case,
>>>> press ente

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Georges Zaynoun
No it cannot, if bootcamp is formatted in windows from another machine 
when you install you will land immediately on c: no need to select partition.

Original message:

OK, so what you're saying is Windows will know not to format my OSX
partition on accident?



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




I did not speak about a sighted person helping me with the advanced
button it is somebody else.



In my case since I boot the mac holding c down with windows7 oem dvd in
it it boots directly into windows.  Prior doing that I use bootcamp to
create the partition of course then I turn off mac.  Now I power the
mac holding t down for target mode, why?  Simply because I want to use
it as an external drive to format the bootcamp partition cause my oem
windows7 dvd refuses to make the formatting.  I get the firewire cable
and connect to a windows machine or to a mac running windows.  Once
connected and when I see the bootcamp partition from the mac I wanna
put windows7 on I format it with the other machine.  Having done that I
now disconnect and power off.  Now I boot directly into windows holding
c down without ever going into mac os x at all and windows will select
right partition by default since it is formatted and prepared.
Original message:

OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:



You initially said:



this next screen will be for the

partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is
alt+D



So I'm kind a confused here.



Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to
tab
around to get to the list of Partitions?



If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX
volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing
every
blasted time I try in the past.



I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this
correctly first go.



Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp
partition.
I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the
partition.



I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for
Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.



So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the
bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very
confused.



Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.



further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen,
unless
I over-looked it, which is possible.



Thanks.



Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with
your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that
is
still a bit grey to me.



Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.



Chris.
- Original Message -----
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.

From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is

impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
accomplish the goal.
Original message:

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?



Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it
100%
on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I
gotta
do.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be
enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into
the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the
first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next scr

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, so what you're saying is Windows will know not to format my OSX 
partition on accident?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


I did not speak about a sighted person helping me with the advanced
button it is somebody else.

In my case since I boot the mac holding c down with windows7 oem dvd in
it it boots directly into windows.  Prior doing that I use bootcamp to
create the partition of course then I turn off mac.  Now I power the
mac holding t down for target mode, why?  Simply because I want to use
it as an external drive to format the bootcamp partition cause my oem
windows7 dvd refuses to make the formatting.  I get the firewire cable
and connect to a windows machine or to a mac running windows.  Once
connected and when I see the bootcamp partition from the mac I wanna
put windows7 on I format it with the other machine.  Having done that I
now disconnect and power off.  Now I boot directly into windows holding
c down without ever going into mac os x at all and windows will select
right partition by default since it is formatted and prepared.
Original message:

OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:



You initially said:



this next screen will be for the

partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is 
alt+D



So I'm kind a confused here.


Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to 
tab

around to get to the list of Partitions?



If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX
volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing 
every

blasted time I try in the past.



I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this
correctly first go.


Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp 
partition.

I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the
partition.



I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for
Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.



So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the
bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very
confused.



Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.


further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, 
unless

I over-looked it, which is possible.



Thanks.



Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with
your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that 
is

still a bit grey to me.



Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.



Chris.
- Original Message -----
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.

From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is

impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
accomplish the goal.
Original message:

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?



Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it
100%
on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I
gotta
do.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be 
enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into 
the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the 
first

screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement,
press
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Georges Zaynoun
I did not speak about a sighted person helping me with the advanced 
button it is somebody else.


In my case since I boot the mac holding c down with windows7 oem dvd in 
it it boots directly into windows.  Prior doing that I use bootcamp to 
create the partition of course then I turn off mac.  Now I power the 
mac holding t down for target mode, why?  Simply because I want to use 
it as an external drive to format the bootcamp partition cause my oem 
windows7 dvd refuses to make the formatting.  I get the firewire cable 
and connect to a windows machine or to a mac running windows.  Once 
connected and when I see the bootcamp partition from the mac I wanna 
put windows7 on I format it with the other machine.  Having done that I 
now disconnect and power off.  Now I boot directly into windows holding 
c down without ever going into mac os x at all and windows will select 
right partition by default since it is formatted and prepared.

Original message:

OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:



You initially said:



this next screen will be for the

partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D



So I'm kind a confused here.



Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to tab
around to get to the list of Partitions?



If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX
volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing every
blasted time I try in the past.



I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this
correctly first go.



Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp partition.
I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the
partition.



I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for
Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.



So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the
bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very
confused.



Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.



further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, unless
I over-looked it, which is possible.



Thanks.



Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with
your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that is
still a bit grey to me.



Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.



Chris.
- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.

From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is

impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
accomplish the goal.
Original message:

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?



Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it
100%
on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I
gotta
do.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement,
press
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is
alt+D
but don't hol

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Chris!
Sorry but someone else posted about the sighted help!
They snuck in and if you still have the older post's you can see who it was I 
think it was someone called Cody!
hth Colin

On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:11, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:
> 
> You initially said:
> 
> this next screen will be for the
>> partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
>> format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
>> thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
>> list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
> 
> So I'm kind a confused here.
> 
> Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to tab 
> around to get to the list of Partitions?
> 
> If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX 
> volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing every 
> blasted time I try in the past.
> 
> I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this 
> correctly first go.
> 
> Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp partition. I 
> will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the partition.
> 
> I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for Lion, 
> then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.
> 
> So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the 
> bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very 
> confused.
> 
> Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.
> 
> further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, unless 
> I over-looked it, which is possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with your 
> help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that is still 
> a bit grey to me.
> 
> Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.
> 
> 
> Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.
>> From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is
> impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
> accomplish the goal.
> Original message:
>> Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?
> 
>> Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
>> did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
>> rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
>> sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 100%
>> on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
>> manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I gotta
>> do.
> 
>> Chris.
> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.
> 
> 
>> The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
>> format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
>> to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
>> oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
>> Original message:
>>> You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
>>> bootcamp
>>> assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
>>> for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
>>> windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
>>> screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
>>> case,
>>> press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press
>>> alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
>>> partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
>>> format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
>>> thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
>>> list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
>>> but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. Aft

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck:

You initially said:

this next screen will be for the

partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D


So I'm kind a confused here.

Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced?  And once in there do I need to tab 
around to get to the list of Partitions?


If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX 
volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing every 
blasted time I try in the past.


I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error.  I've gotta do this 
correctly first go.


Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp partition. 
I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the 
partition.


I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for 
Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7.


So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the 
bootcamp partition?  See, this is where I'm really getting myself very 
confused.


Do I even need to fool with the advanced button.

further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, unless 
I over-looked it, which is possible.


Thanks.

Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with 
your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that is 
still a bit grey to me.


Thank you ever so much for your continuing help.

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.

From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is

impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to
accomplish the goal.
Original message:

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?



Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 
100%

on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I 
gotta

do.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, 
press

alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is 
alt+D

but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue.
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how
you'll
know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound
drivers
installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would 
detect

it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.



HTH
Cody
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this,
and
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus w

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Georges Zaynoun
Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone.  
From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is 
impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to 
accomplish the goal.

Original message:

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?



Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 100%
on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I gotta
do.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open
bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any
case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue.
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how
you'll
know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound
drivers
installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect
it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.



HTH
Cody
- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this,
and
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus won't help me.



If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I
try, I wind up crashing things.



So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!



BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch
mid
2010 model.



I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.



Thanks.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Hi!



Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.



I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.



--
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Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE
Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929
Mobile: +46707567315
E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net



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Mobile: +46707567315
E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net


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Timmerv. 6A

Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key?  Command? or, option?

Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you 
did, as you had to have someone click advanced.  Please don't take this 
rudely, but what the heck.  I'm confused, did you or did you not need 
sighted help.  Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 100% 
on my own.  Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition 
manager, that's where I'm getting stuck.  I'm not getting what then I gotta 
do.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.
Original message:
You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open 
bootcamp

assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any 
case,

press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue.
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how 
you'll

know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound 
drivers

installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect
it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.



HTH
Cody
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, 
and

everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus won't help me.



If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I
try, I wind up crashing things.



So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!


BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch 
mid

2010 model.



I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.



Thanks.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Hi!



Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.



I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.



--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE
Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929
Mobile: +46707567315
E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net


--
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Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929
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Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-15 Thread Georges Zaynoun
The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to 
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install 
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the 
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.

Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue.
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how you'll
know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound drivers
installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect
it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.



HTH
Cody
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, and
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus won't help me.



If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I
try, I wind up crashing things.



So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!



BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch mid
2010 model.



I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.



Thanks.



Chris.



- Original Message -----
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Hi!



Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.



I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.



--
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Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE
Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929
Mobile: +46707567315
E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net


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Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-15 Thread Cody
You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open bootcamp 
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough 
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the 
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first 
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any case, 
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press 
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the 
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then 
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire 
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the 
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D 
but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After 
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue. 
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how you'll 
know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use 
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound drivers 
installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect 
it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.


HTH
Cody
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, and
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus won't help me.

If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I
try, I wind up crashing things.

So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!

BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch mid
2010 model.

I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.

Thanks.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Hi!

Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.

I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.

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Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I 
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, and 
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my 
system and thus won't help me.


If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7 
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I 
try, I wind up crashing things.


So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!

BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch mid 
2010 model.


I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.

Thanks.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Hi!

Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.

I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.

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Installed Windows7 Alone.

2011-08-15 Thread Georges Zaynoun

Hi!

Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and 
not using the unattended way.


I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I 
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows 
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.  
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a 
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to 
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The 
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly 
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation 
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the 
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On 
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb 
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp 
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook 
13inch white from February 2009.


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