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Re: Sudden battery Drain on Iphone Xr.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I wonder if they do something that we might not be aware of.
Conspiration i know but  it shoudln’t be that way.
/A

> 11 feb. 2020 kl. 20:00 skrev Loy Green :
> 
> I have had a similar problem. Normally I will go two days and have 50 per 
> cent  battery charge. Yesterday I went from 100 per cent to 0 per cent in one 
> day with very little use.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
> To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:53 PM
> Subject: Sudden battery Drain on Iphone Xr.
> 
> 
> Hi!
> Since monday this week my Iphone has been in a strange battery drain which i 
> wasn’t prepared for.
> It want from 100% on monday to 41% today which for me isn’t normal.
> And i then charged it to 80% at 12PM and now its 7.41 PM and the battery is 
> att 63%.
> THe battery optimization is turned off, i have power saving mode on.
> I have deactivated app background refresh.
> Normally i don’t have Mobile or Cellular Data on while at home.
> Nor do i have bluetooth on.
> I turn off WIFI when out and about and turn on Celular data and use bluetooth 
> while listening to music.
> It just happened and i am not really sure why.
> I’ve had it for a year and i thought it should keep charging a bit longer.
> THe battery healt tells me i am ok.
> I use to charge at 50% so i wont destroy my battery.
> Maybe this has destroyd it.
> Any ideas exept for contacting apple support.
> /A
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Re: Sudden battery Drain on Iphone Xr.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Have you restarted your iPhone?  A couple things to note.  Battery Optimization 
is a software check that monitors your normal charging behaviour and determines 
when to charge it to 100% not long before you'd normally start using it.  For 
example, if you plugged your iPhone in before bed, and you normally awake at 
6:00 am, the iPhone will charge to about 80% in the first one to two hours, 
then turn off the charging process until about an hour before you wake in order 
to complete the charge to 100%.  Turning it off can sometimes hurt battery 
health.  Yes, I have heard some mention that turning it off improves how long 
the iPhone retains a charge, but I believe that this is no longer the case.  
Your battery gets the equivalent of about 500 charge cycles of life.  No matter 
if you charge it to 50% 1000 times, or to 100% 500 times.  Losing 17% from noon 
to 7:40 is not really that bad.  At that rate, you would get approximately 48 
hours on a full charge.  Any time you can get two full days out of a phone 
battery in normal use cases is excellent.

Later...


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On Feb 11, 2020, at 11:53, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Since monday this week my Iphone has been in a strange battery drain which  i 
wasn’t prepared for.
It want from 100% on monday to 41% today which for me isn’t normal.
And i then charged it to 80% at 12PM and now its 7.41 PM and the battery is att 
63%.
THe battery optimization is turned off, i have power saving mode on.
I have deactivated app background refresh.
Normally i don’t have Mobile or Cellular Data on while at home.
Nor do i have bluetooth on.
I turn off WIFI when out and about and turn on Celular data and use bluetooth 
while listening to music.
It just happened and i am not really sure why.
I’ve had it for a year and i thought it should keep charging a bit longer.
THe battery healt tells me i am ok. 
I use to charge at 50% so i wont destroy my battery.
Maybe this has destroyd it.
Any ideas exept for contacting apple support.
/A

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Re: Sudden battery Drain on Iphone Xr.

[Loy Green]

I have had a similar problem. Normally I will go two days and have 50 per 
cent  battery charge. Yesterday I went from 100 per cent to 0 per cent in 
one day with very little use.


- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" 

To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:53 PM
Subject: Sudden battery Drain on Iphone Xr.


Hi!
Since monday this week my Iphone has been in a strange battery drain which 
i wasn’t prepared for.

It want from 100% on monday to 41% today which for me isn’t normal.
And i then charged it to 80% at 12PM and now its 7.41 PM and the battery is 
att 63%.

THe battery optimization is turned off, i have power saving mode on.
I have deactivated app background refresh.
Normally i don’t have Mobile or Cellular Data on while at home.
Nor do i have bluetooth on.
I turn off WIFI when out and about and turn on Celular data and use 
bluetooth while listening to music.

It just happened and i am not really sure why.
I’ve had it for a year and i thought it should keep charging a bit longer.
THe battery healt tells me i am ok.
I use to charge at 50% so i wont destroy my battery.
Maybe this has destroyd it.
Any ideas exept for contacting apple support.
/A

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Sudden battery Drain on Iphone Xr.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Since monday this week my Iphone has been in a strange battery drain which  i 
wasn’t prepared for.
It want from 100% on monday to 41% today which for me isn’t normal.
And i then charged it to 80% at 12PM and now its 7.41 PM and the battery is att 
63%.
THe battery optimization is turned off, i have power saving mode on.
I have deactivated app background refresh.
Normally i don’t have Mobile or Cellular Data on while at home.
Nor do i have bluetooth on.
I turn off WIFI when out and about and turn on Celular data and use bluetooth 
while listening to music.
It just happened and i am not really sure why.
I’ve had it for a year and i thought it should keep charging a bit longer.
THe battery healt tells me i am ok. 
I use to charge at 50% so i wont destroy my battery.
Maybe this has destroyd it.
Any ideas exept for contacting apple support.
/A

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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Note that these instructions only affect conversations on the Messages app on 
your Mac.  Muting a conversation on the Mac does not mute the same conversation 
on your iOS device.  They are independent, even though they are linked in other 
ways.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 21, 2019, at 18:25, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

OK On the Macintosh open the Messages App. (Why would you think you could do 
anything with iTunes for this? Messages has nothing to do with playing music.?) 
,
Once in the messages app move over to the list of messages since it is the only 
table on the aap screen, I usually use control-option-command-shift-T.
Now interact with that table.
Find the muted conversation and use control-option-shift-M to bring up the 
contextual menu and you should find "Do not disturb" checked. Uncheck the item 
and the conversation should now be unmuted.
Note, it might be possible to mute a person  in the contacts application.
  

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 19, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Angus MacKinnon  > wrote:
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> Thank you for answering. My Tactile and Finger Motor skills are poor. Am I 
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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK On the Macintosh open the Messages App. (Why would you think you could do 
anything with iTunes for this? Messages has nothing to do with playing music.?) 
,
Once in the messages app move over to the list of messages since it is the only 
table on the aap screen, I usually use control-option-command-shift-T.
Now interact with that table.
Find the muted conversation and use control-option-shift-M to bring up the 
contextual menu and you should find "Do not disturb" checked. Uncheck the item 
and the conversation should now be unmuted.
Note, it might be possible to mute a person  in the contacts application.
  

Jonathan Cohn



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> Jeff
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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

[Angus MacKinnon]

Jeff

I got sighted help to get Messages UnMuted. Things like this used to be easy to 
do myself. Now I can not use 85% to 90% of the iPhone. So, where is 
Accessibility?

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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

[Angus MacKinnon]

Tim

is the below the Mac App you suggested?

> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/type2phone-bluetooth-keyboard/id472717129 
> 
> 
> 
> Mac App Store  Preview
> Open the Mac App Store to buy and download apps.

Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
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> • Customizable keyboard shortcuts for all your devices
> • Copy-paste text from Mac to iPhone, iPad or Apple TV
> • AppleScript to automate text input
> • Support for Mac OS X dictation (10.8 or later)
> • Support for TextExpander on Mac
> • Support for iOS Voice Over
> 
> 
> ## Get started in 3 easy steps:
> 
> • On your Mac, open System Preferences > Bluetooth. Make sure Bluetooth is on 
> and discoverable. Leave System Presences open.
> • Start Type2Phone. Leave it running and frontmost.
> • On the iOS device, go to Settings > Bluetooth. Tap the name of your Mac to 
> start the pairing procedure.
> 
> Please note: If your Mac and iOS device had been previously paired, you first 
> need to undo the pairing on both ends. Have each device forget the other. 
> Then go through the above procedure.
> 
> 
> ## Supported iOS keyboard layouts: 
> 
> U.S American, Arabic, Australian, Belgian, Brazilian, British, Canadian 
> English, Canadian French, Czech, Czech QWERTY, Danish, Dutch, Dvorak, 
> Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese QWERTY, 
> Norwegian, Polish, Polish Pro, Portuguese, Russian, Serbian, Serbian Latin, 
> Slovak, Slovak QWERTY, Spanish ISO, Swedish, Swiss French, Swiss German, 
> Thai, Turkish, Turkish QWERTZ
> 
> 
> ## Customer praises:
> 
> "Quite possibly the biggest time-saving productivity tool in my ecosystem"
> 5 stars by mediawolf, USA
> 
> "Muy buena app. Hace lo que dice. Es sencilla, práctica, en una palabra: 
> Perfecto¡¡¡"
> 5 stars by Ruben2013, Spain
> 
> "Marche parfaitement, très utile pour taper de long SMS ou autres"
> 5 stars by Aalin, France
> 
> "Perfekte App. Macht genau das, was sie soll. "
> 5 stars by tomekiii, Germany
> 
> "I have been working with 2 bluetooth keyboards […] Now I only need one. Well 
> done!"
> 5 stars by Big Voice, USA
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> "… my daughters are wondering how I can text back so much and so fast!"
> 5 stars by bt4jc, USA
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> What’s New
> Version History
> Oct 18, 2018 Version 3.1.2
> Fixes a bug where Type2Phone failed to notice the initial connection from an 
> iOS device
> Ratings and Reviews
> 
> 4.4 out of 5
> 26 Ratings
>  
> everkleer
> , 
> 04/07/2019
> One of my favorite apps
> This is awesome and very simple, basically it just turns your Mac into a 
> bluetooth keyboard when you activate the app. Of course it's designed for iOS 
> but I think it should work with any device that can use a BT keyboard. (I 
> just did a quick test on my Fire TV and it works on there.) Once you set up 
> the initial BT connection, this will easily and quickly disconnect and 
> reconnect the keyboard whenever you launch the app and/or move it to/from the 
> background. This also supports multiple devices - just select the one you 
> want it connected to from a dropdown.
> 
> And for people that have issues with this app, remember it is JUST a BT 
> keyboard. It can't do anything on your phone that a standalone keyboard 
> couldn't do. Of course the advantage of this is that no app needs to be 
> installed on the phone so it should work seamlessly no matter what version of 
> iOS or what type of device you're using.
> more
> mister zed
> , 
> 07/11/2018
> HORRIBLE JUNK!
> It's not just the ugly & clunky UI that I hate. This app FORCIBLY closes the 
> keyboard on your phone whenever you connect. This creates an unbelievably bad 
> user experience, because it causes problems with some apps (where the are 
> where your text goes gets hidden too) and where you can't just pick up your 
> phone and type if you want to. 
> 
> It's also really bad if you switch languages, because you have to switch in 
> this app AND in the keyboard on the phone. You can't do that if the keyboard 
> is hidden. And why doesn't the app do that for you? If I switch to the 
> Portuguese/Brazilian keyboard in the app, can't you at least give me the 
> option of switching automatically to the same keyboard on the phone? 
> 
> There are lots of little problems with this, but those above are the worst, 
> and they bite me every time I use it.
> more
> Developer Response
> , 
> 07/12/2018
> Type2Phone connects as a Bluetooth keyboard to your iOS device. iPhone then 
> hides the on-screen software keyboard to give your app more room. It does 
> that for all Bluetooth keyboards. You cannot disable this iOS feature. 
> Type2Phone however gives you menu item to reveal the software keyboard. 
> Type2Phone also allows you to quickly disconnect from your phone - causing 
> the software keyboard to re-appera - and automatically reconnects as you 
> start typing.
> 
> 

Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,


If you used an app like type two phone, you might be able to use the Mac 
keyboard to do those sorts of commands. Otherwise, I suggest that you acquire a 
Bluetooth keyboard for your iPhone.

Later…


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2019, at 2:24 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Angus,
> Unfortunately I have know idea. Wish I could help more! I knew about
> the muting and unmuting on the phone because I had to mute all my
> facebook messages, I was getting so many it drove me crazy.
> Jeff
> 
> 
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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

[jeff `greene]

Hi Angus,
Unfortunately I have know idea. Wish I could help more! I knew about
the muting and unmuting on the phone because I had to mute all my
facebook messages, I was getting so many it drove me crazy.
Jeff


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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

[Angus MacKinnon]

Jeff

Thank you for answering. My Tactile and Finger Motor skills are poor. Am I able 
to do this using iTunes or Terminal on the iMac?

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Re: Messages on the iPhone XR

[jeff `greene]

Hi Angus,
1 put your finger on the message that says its muted.
2 slide up with one finger (make sure you're in the actions roter)
3 when you hear unmute do a single finger double-tap.
I Hope this helps! Jeff


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Messages on the iPhone XR

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on to another area. My iPhone XR is using IOS 12.2
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Smith Muted Are you okay”. What is Mute” and how do I change it?

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Re: Chargin Iphone Xr.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I guess that’s how long the update cycle is if you want a secure phone to so 
that’s good to know.
Thanks.
/A

> 21 mars 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
>   My iPhone 5 lasted me 5 years and it was charged every night.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> 
> On 3/21/2019 12:54 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> HI!
>> As i want to take very good care of this new Iphone XR i am not really sure 
>> on how to charge or when to charge the Iphone?
>> Normally i sued to charge my other Iphones every day but is that really good 
>> for the battery?
>> I am really unsure about this and i don’t want to destroy the battery on the 
>> Iphone.
>> I know there are tons of info on this thread on the web but who is right and 
>> not right?
>> So i am curious on how you all do about this?
>> I think it will take a lot to destroy the battery on the Iphone but you 
>> never know.
>> Blessings from  Sweden.
>> /A
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Re: Chargin Iphone Xr.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ah, yeah that helps a lot.
Then its ok.
I really do love this new XR.
More than my Nokia 8, even though both platforms has its pros and cons.
/A

> 21 mars 2019 kl. 21:41 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Agreed.  It could be charged twice a day if that's what is needed.  It's kind 
> of a cycle thing, not a number of charges thing.  For example if you charge 
> it from 30 to 70% one day, and from 20 to 80% the next day, then you've 
> charged it one cycle.  That is, you charged it 40% the first day, and 60% the 
> next day, which adds up to 100%, one cycle.  Phone batteries have a optimum 
> number of cycles and once it reaches that point, battery life is not 
> particularly useful.  Aslo, unless theres' something wrong with your device, 
> there are controls within that reduce the amperage so that the phones do not 
> over charge.  So, basically, you should be fine.  In Settings, Battery, 
> there's a way for you to check how well your battery is doing.  If it's at 
> 100% in there, then your battery is like new.  If it's at 80%, then it
> s still fine.  If it's at 30%, then it's near the point of needing replaced 
> as it is only able to do 30% as good as a brand new battery.
> 
> There's probably more technical explanations, but that hopefully helps.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 14:21, lenron brown  <mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> You really should be fine charging it once a day.
> 
> On 3/21/19, Anders Holmberg  <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>> HI!
>> As i want to take very good care of this new Iphone XR i am not really sure
>> on how to charge or when to charge the Iphone?
>> Normally i sued to charge my other Iphones every day but is that really good
>> for the battery?
>> I am really unsure about this and i don’t want to destroy the battery on the
>> Iphone.
>> I know there are tons of info on this thread on the web but who is right and
>> not right?
>> So i am curious on how you all do about this?
>> I think it will take a lot to destroy the battery on the Iphone but you
>> never know.
>> Blessings from  Sweden.
>> /A
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Re: Chargin Iphone Xr.

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   My iPhone 5 lasted me 5 years and it was charged every night.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/21/2019 12:54 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

HI!
As i want to take very good care of this new Iphone XR i am not really sure on 
how to charge or when to charge the Iphone?
Normally i sued to charge my other Iphones every day but is that really good 
for the battery?
I am really unsure about this and i don’t want to destroy the battery on the 
Iphone.
I know there are tons of info on this thread on the web but who is right and 
not right?
So i am curious on how you all do about this?
I think it will take a lot to destroy the battery on the Iphone but you never 
know.
Blessings from  Sweden.
/A



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Re: Chargin Iphone Xr.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Agreed.  It could be charged twice a day if that's what is needed.  It's kind 
of a cycle thing, not a number of charges thing.  For example if you charge it 
from 30 to 70% one day, and from 20 to 80% the next day, then you've charged it 
one cycle.  That is, you charged it 40% the first day, and 60% the next day, 
which adds up to 100%, one cycle.  Phone batteries have a optimum number of 
cycles and once it reaches that point, battery life is not particularly useful. 
 Aslo, unless theres' something wrong with your device, there are controls 
within that reduce the amperage so that the phones do not over charge.  So, 
basically, you should be fine.  In Settings, Battery, there's a way for you to 
check how well your battery is doing.  If it's at 100% in there, then your 
battery is like new.  If it's at 80%, then it
s still fine.  If it's at 30%, then it's near the point of needing replaced as 
it is only able to do 30% as good as a brand new battery.

There's probably more technical explanations, but that hopefully helps.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2019, at 14:21, lenron brown  wrote:

You really should be fine charging it once a day.

On 3/21/19, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> HI!
> As i want to take very good care of this new Iphone XR i am not really sure
> on how to charge or when to charge the Iphone?
> Normally i sued to charge my other Iphones every day but is that really good
> for the battery?
> I am really unsure about this and i don’t want to destroy the battery on the
> Iphone.
> I know there are tons of info on this thread on the web but who is right and
> not right?
> So i am curious on how you all do about this?
> I think it will take a lot to destroy the battery on the Iphone but you
> never know.
> Blessings from  Sweden.
> /A
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Re: Chargin Iphone Xr.

[lenron brown]

You really should be fine charging it once a day.

On 3/21/19, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> HI!
> As i want to take very good care of this new Iphone XR i am not really sure
> on how to charge or when to charge the Iphone?
> Normally i sued to charge my other Iphones every day but is that really good
> for the battery?
> I am really unsure about this and i don’t want to destroy the battery on the
> Iphone.
> I know there are tons of info on this thread on the web but who is right and
> not right?
> So i am curious on how you all do about this?
> I think it will take a lot to destroy the battery on the Iphone but you
> never know.
> Blessings from  Sweden.
> /A
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Chargin Iphone Xr.

[Anders Holmberg]

HI!
As i want to take very good care of this new Iphone XR i am not really sure on 
how to charge or when to charge the Iphone?
Normally i sued to charge my other Iphones every day but is that really good 
for the battery?
I am really unsure about this and i don’t want to destroy the battery on the 
Iphone.
I know there are tons of info on this thread on the web but who is right and 
not right?
So i am curious on how you all do about this?
I think it will take a lot to destroy the battery on the Iphone but you never 
know.
Blessings from  Sweden.
/A

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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Actually, I've decided to sit tight.  I'm really worried that I won't like the 
size. I have smaller hands, and even the X is a little big for my taste.  I'd 
love the S, but I don't love its price-tag.  So, I think I'll see what next 
year's phone lineup looks like.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:27 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna and Anders,
> 
> Yeah I believe that the XR is a size between the XS and XS Max,
> But the screen and camera are the big difference, For the price they've 
> offered you Donna I'd say go for it 
> 
> I guess to someone with average male sized hands the size isn't bad, 
> But it's all an individuals view on things.
> 
> 
> Good luck with your choice.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, 4 March 2019 5:27 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?
> 
> Hi!
> Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
> BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
> I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
> They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it could 
> be a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd display.
> But i am no engineering so what do i know?
> Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
> There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but you 
> should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
> But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a 
> bit boxy or something like that.
> You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
> /A
> 
>> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>> Anything you don't like?
>> 
>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>> 
>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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RE: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna and Anders,

Yeah I believe that the XR is a size between the XS and XS Max,
 But the screen and camera are the big difference, For the price they've 
offered you Donna I'd say go for it 

I guess to someone with average male sized hands the size isn't bad, 
But it's all an individuals view on things.


Good luck with your choice.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, 4 March 2019 5:27 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

Hi!
Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it could be 
a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd display.
But i am no engineering so what do i know?
Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but you 
should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a bit 
boxy or something like that.
You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
/A

> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Pete Nalda]

Both speakers are on the bottom on either side of the lightening port. I think 
I heard the top speaker is made the left or right speaker in landscape mode. 
But you do get decent separation in portrait mode as well. 

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> On Mar 3, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> here is the other one?
> One is at the bottom but is the other one at the top then?
> Thanks.
> /A
> 
>> 3 mars 2019 kl. 18:35 skrev John JD Denning :
>> 
>> The EXR does indeed have stereo speakers. They work just fine. Though I 
>> seldom listen to stereo music from the speakers it does work. Really the 
>> differences are the camera in the screen. And I can’t see the difference in 
>> the screen between my EXR and my wife’s ex S.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Anders.  That's strange about it not having a stereo speaker.  I'm 
>>> glad you mentioned it, I just assumed that would come on all the phones.  I 
>>> have sort of gotten used to it, guess I'll have to think about how much 
>>> that matters.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for responding.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
>>>> BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
>>>> I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
>>>> They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it 
>>>> could be a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd 
>>>> display.
>>>> But i am no engineering so what do i know?
>>>> Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
>>>> There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but 
>>>> you should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
>>>> But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a 
>>>> bit boxy or something like that.
>>>> You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
>>>> /A
>>>> 
>>>>> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like 
>>>>> it?  Anything you don't like?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>>>>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  
>>>>> And it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones 
>>>>> come out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't 
>>>>> like it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  
>>>>> Does anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read 
>>>>> that it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
here is the other one?
One is at the bottom but is the other one at the top then?
Thanks.
/A

> 3 mars 2019 kl. 18:35 skrev John JD Denning :
> 
> The EXR does indeed have stereo speakers. They work just fine. Though I 
> seldom listen to stereo music from the speakers it does work. Really the 
> differences are the camera in the screen. And I can’t see the difference in 
> the screen between my EXR and my wife’s ex S.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Anders.  That's strange about it not having a stereo speaker.  I'm 
>> glad you mentioned it, I just assumed that would come on all the phones.  I 
>> have sort of gotten used to it, guess I'll have to think about how much that 
>> matters.
>> 
>> Thanks for responding.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
>>> BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
>>> I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
>>> They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it 
>>> could be a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd 
>>> display.
>>> But i am no engineering so what do i know?
>>> Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
>>> There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but 
>>> you should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
>>> But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a 
>>> bit boxy or something like that.
>>> You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it? 
>>>>  Anything you don't like?
>>>> 
>>>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>>>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  
>>>> And it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones 
>>>> come out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>>>> 
>>>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't 
>>>> like it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  
>>>> Does anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read 
>>>> that it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, good.  That is what I thought, thanks for clarifying.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:35 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> The EXR does indeed have stereo speakers. They work just fine. Though I 
> seldom listen to stereo music from the speakers it does work. Really the 
> differences are the camera in the screen. And I can’t see the difference in 
> the screen between my EXR and my wife’s ex S.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Anders.  That's strange about it not having a stereo speaker.  I'm 
>> glad you mentioned it, I just assumed that would come on all the phones.  I 
>> have sort of gotten used to it, guess I'll have to think about how much that 
>> matters.
>> 
>> Thanks for responding.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
>>> BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
>>> I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
>>> They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it 
>>> could be a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd 
>>> display.
>>> But i am no engineering so what do i know?
>>> Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
>>> There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but 
>>> you should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
>>> But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a 
>>> bit boxy or something like that.
>>> You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it? 
>>>>  Anything you don't like?
>>>> 
>>>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>>>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  
>>>> And it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones 
>>>> come out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>>>> 
>>>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't 
>>>> like it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  
>>>> Does anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read 
>>>> that it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[John JD Denning]

The EXR does indeed have stereo speakers. They work just fine. Though I seldom 
listen to stereo music from the speakers it does work. Really the differences 
are the camera in the screen. And I can’t see the difference in the screen 
between my EXR and my wife’s ex S.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:32, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anders.  That's strange about it not having a stereo speaker.  I'm 
> glad you mentioned it, I just assumed that would come on all the phones.  I 
> have sort of gotten used to it, guess I'll have to think about how much that 
> matters.
> 
> Thanks for responding.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
>> BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
>> I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
>> They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it could 
>> be a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd display.
>> But i am no engineering so what do i know?
>> Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
>> There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but 
>> you should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
>> But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a 
>> bit boxy or something like that.
>> You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>>> Anything you don't like?
>>> 
>>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>>> 
>>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Anders.  That's strange about it not having a stereo speaker.  I'm glad 
you mentioned it, I just assumed that would come on all the phones.  I have 
sort of gotten used to it, guess I'll have to think about how much that matters.

Thanks for responding.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
> BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
> I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
> They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it could 
> be a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd display.
> But i am no engineering so what do i know?
> Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
> There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but you 
> should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
> But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a 
> bit boxy or something like that.
> You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
> /A
> 
>> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>> Anything you don't like?
>> 
>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>> 
>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, so far i do like it more than my old Android phone.
BUt yeah i wish it could been smaller.
I sometimes have problems unlocking the phone with faceId as its to fast.
They say this beast is having good battery power and yes it has but it could be 
a lot better i think in regards to how big it is and the Lcd display.
But i am no engineering so what do i know?
Its a hole lot better than my Iphone Se though.
There is no stereo speaker which from my perspective is not a problem but you 
should be aware of that if you’re getting used to that.
But the sound of VoiceOver is really great even though i think it sounds a bit 
boxy or something like that.
You’re always welcome to ask questions about it if you have any.
/A

> 2 mars 2019 kl. 15:10 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Kawal.
Donna


> On Mar 3, 2019, at 5:38 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna.
> 
> I have a friend who has the iPhone eggs are, and when he showed me, I didn’t 
> like it. For a start, it was too big for me and much heavier than the iPhone 
> X which I have. I’m not sure what the phone is if it’s a eight or 10 r or 
> something else.
> 
> Kawal.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2019, at 5:13 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> I do have the XR, and I do like it. I especially like the great battery 
>> life. I can’t see any big deal about getting the 10 S or the max except 
>> cost. Not worth it. If you use 3D Touch a lot, then that could be important. 
>> But since I don’t, there was no downside for me I came from a 7+, which is a 
>> larger phone of course. The hardest thing to get used to it for me is the 
>> bezels or lack there of. But with your 10, you are already used to that. I 
>> can’t compare the older face ID with the newer one, since I have no 
>> experience with the old one. I don’t have any problem with it, and it is 
>> pretty fast. I still prefer touch ID, but this does work. So I would say go 
>> for it.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 6:10 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>>> Anything you don't like?
>>> 
>>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>>> 
>>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Donna.

I have a friend who has the iPhone eggs are, and when he showed me, I didn’t 
like it. For a start, it was too big for me and much heavier than the iPhone X 
which I have. I’m not sure what the phone is if it’s a eight or 10 r or 
something else.

Kawal.
Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Mar 2019, at 5:13 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I do have the XR, and I do like it. I especially like the great battery life. 
> I can’t see any big deal about getting the 10 S or the max except cost. Not 
> worth it. If you use 3D Touch a lot, then that could be important. But since 
> I don’t, there was no downside for me I came from a 7+, which is a larger 
> phone of course. The hardest thing to get used to it for me is the bezels or 
> lack there of. But with your 10, you are already used to that. I can’t 
> compare the older face ID with the newer one, since I have no experience with 
> the old one. I don’t have any problem with it, and it is pretty fast. I still 
> prefer touch ID, but this does work. So I would say go for it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 6:10 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>> Anything you don't like?
>> 
>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>> 
>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Pete Nalda]

I like my XR quite a bit. It’s only a little bigger than the X, and yet, way 
more comfortable to hold than my 7 plus was. Face ID is a bit finicky, but when 
it works, it’s really very elegant!  

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> On Mar 2, 2019, at 8:10 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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RE: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Simon Fogarty]

Thoughts be good grasshopper,

 I can understand that,

>From what I've read about the xr and xs models is the only real differences 
>are the 1 camera in the xr  to the 2 in the xs 
And the screens are different with the xr being a not as higher quality as the 
screens of the xs and xsmax 

 
-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2019 11:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

Hey Simon,

I like being on the second phone of the cycle, because that's the phone that 
gets the faster processor.  And, I'm thinking that if I trade in my X and 
upgrade now, it'll still be cheaper than buying a new model next fall.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> That's a great price however if your still paying off the x would you not be 
> better off waiting for 6 months for the next device to come out?
> 
> I've also got the X and even though the xs and xr sound like great 
> phones, I couldn't see any reason for now to update, So I'm waiting to see 
> what the next version brings.
> Just a thought
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2019 3:10 AM
> To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Subject: thoughts on iPhone XR?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Simon,

I like being on the second phone of the cycle, because that's the phone that 
gets the faster processor.  And, I'm thinking that if I trade in my X and 
upgrade now, it'll still be cheaper than buying a new model next fall.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> 
> That's a great price however if your still paying off the x would you not be 
> better off waiting for 6 months for the next device to come out?
> 
> I've also got the X and even though the xs and xr sound like great phones, I 
> couldn't see any reason for now to update,
> So I'm waiting to see what the next version brings.
> Just a thought
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2019 3:10 AM
> To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: thoughts on iPhone XR?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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RE: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

That's a great price however if your still paying off the x would you not be 
better off waiting for 6 months for the next device to come out?

 I've also got the X and even though the xs and xr sound like great phones, I 
couldn't see any reason for now to update,
So I'm waiting to see what the next version brings.
Just a thought

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2019 3:10 AM
To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: thoughts on iPhone XR?

Hi all,

I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
Anything you don't like?

I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be a 
lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will be, 
so I'm kind of thinking about it.

One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like it 
on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does anyone 
have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that it's wider, 
and that's something I don't really need.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mary,

Thanks! This is helpful.

As it turns out, the Apple promo won't be good for me b/c I'd still have to pay 
off my VZ balance on the X.  But, it does look like trading in my X might be 
advantageous, so I'm exploring that.

I went to the VZ store today to  look at the phones.  I do like the smaller 
size of the S, but completely agree with you that it isn't worth the higher 
price tag.  So if I do go through with this, it'll be an R.

Thanks again for sharing your experience.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 2, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I do have the XR, and I do like it. I especially like the great battery life. 
> I can’t see any big deal about getting the 10 S or the max except cost. Not 
> worth it. If you use 3D Touch a lot, then that could be important. But since 
> I don’t, there was no downside for me I came from a 7+, which is a larger 
> phone of course. The hardest thing to get used to it for me is the bezels or 
> lack there of. But with your 10, you are already used to that. I can’t 
> compare the older face ID with the newer one, since I have no experience with 
> the old one. I don’t have any problem with it, and it is pretty fast. I still 
> prefer touch ID, but this does work. So I would say go for it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 6:10 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>> Anything you don't like?
>> 
>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>> 
>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Donna,
I do have the XR, and I do like it. I especially like the great battery life. I 
can’t see any big deal about getting the 10 S or the max except cost. Not worth 
it. If you use 3D Touch a lot, then that could be important. But since I don’t, 
there was no downside for me I came from a 7+, which is a larger phone of 
course. The hardest thing to get used to it for me is the bezels or lack there 
of. But with your 10, you are already used to that. I can’t compare the older 
face ID with the newer one, since I have no experience with the old one. I 
don’t have any problem with it, and it is pretty fast. I still prefer touch ID, 
but this does work. So I would say go for it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 6:10 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

thanks, John.  the size is one of the things that worries me - I like the 
smaller phones. :) May have to go to Verizon and see just how much bigger it 
actually is.  I'd probably rather have the S, but I do like this price a lot 
better.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 8:26 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
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> Hi, I have the XR, and love it. I love the face ID. It’s very fast, and very 
> convenient. I like the size of the phone I like everything about it. Can’t 
> think of any drawbacks whatsoever. My wife has the 10 S, and it’s just 
> smaller than I like. Hig
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 09:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
>> Anything you don't like?
>> 
>> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from 
>> Apple to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And 
>> it'd be a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come 
>> out will be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
>> 
>> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
>> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
>> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
>> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: thoughts on iPhone XR?

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Hi, I have the XR, and love it. I love the face ID. It’s very fast, and very 
convenient. I like the size of the phone I like everything about it. Can’t 
think of any drawbacks whatsoever. My wife has the 10 S, and it’s just smaller 
than I like. Hig

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 09:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
> Anything you don't like?
> 
> I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
> to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be 
> a lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will 
> be, so I'm kind of thinking about it.
> 
> One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like 
> it on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does 
> anyone have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that 
> it's wider, and that's something I don't really need.
> TIA,
> Donna
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thoughts on iPhone XR?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I know that some of you out there have the iPhone XR.  How do you like it?  
Anything you don't like?

I had planned to skip upgrading this year, but I just got an offer from Apple 
to buy an XR for $249 if I trade in my iPhone X.  It's tempting.  And it'd be a 
lot cheaper than whatever upgrading when next fall's phones come out will be, 
so I'm kind of thinking about it.

One specific thing I'm curious about is the improved face ID.  I don't like it 
on the X, but have read that it is faster on the newer phones.  Does anyone 
have experience with this?  Also, how is the feel?  I've read that it's wider, 
and that's something I don't really need.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Michael Busboom]

Thanks for all the feedback, everyone; it really helped.

If I ever discover a way to reconfigure the keyboard in such a way that truly 
gives me the feeling of an iOS keyboard experience, i.e. Command Key right next 
to the spacebar, and Option to the left of that, I will share that nugget with 
the list.

My thanks to you for your input,

Mike




> On 13.02.2019, at 15:57, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> From the Logitech web site, it suggest you should be able to get the keyboard 
> to redetech the OS …
> If the keyboard fails to correctly detect the operating system of a device, 
> you can manually select the operating system by performing a long press (3 
> seconds) of a function key combination.
> Makes me want to purchase one of these keyboard!
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> The power switch is on the left hand edge near the top,
>> This needs to be pushed UP to be on,
>> 
>> Then once on press the f1 or f2 or f3 key to turn your Bluetooth option on, 
>> note the f1 f2 etc keys are second third and forth keys in from the left end 
>> of the top row, the most top left key is escape or home.
>> 
>> So once the board is on press and hold down the f key you want to use 
>> Hold it down for approx. 3 seconds and key watching your Bluetooth devices 
>> on your device
>> If the device is an IOS device like iPhone 
>> Then under Bluetooth the k380 will show up to the very right of the 
>> Bluetooth connected devices.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
>> Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019 4:00 AM
>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your feedback, Simon. I tried associating my iPhone 
>> with all three possibilities,but the keyboard layout remained the same. It’s 
>> a pain using it this way, but I guess I will just have to live with it.
>> 
>> Take care and thanks.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12.02.2019, at 09:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I have this same board.
>>> 
>>> The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.
>>> 
>>> I've got my iPhone on f3 
>>> Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 
>>> 
>>> I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
>>> left corner to the space bar worked this way:
>>> 
>>> Ctrl fn, option and nothing,
>>> 
>>> On windows it went,
>>> Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 
>>> 
>>> On the mac book: 
>>> Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.
>>> 
>>> So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.
>>> 
>>> As for pairing your devices,
>>> 
>>> Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
>>> than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
>>> pairing.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
>>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
>>> with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
>>> something went wrong.
>>> 
>>> Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  
>>> While this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a 
>>> way to reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to 
>>> use the same keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t 
>>> quite figured out how this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a 
>>> manual for this keyboard would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Jonathan Cohn]

>From the Logitech web site, it suggest you should be able to get the keyboard 
>to redetech the OS …
If the keyboard fails to correctly detect the operating system of a device, you 
can manually select the operating system by performing a long press (3 seconds) 
of a function key combination.
Makes me want to purchase one of these keyboard!

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 4:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> The power switch is on the left hand edge near the top,
> This needs to be pushed UP to be on,
> 
> Then once on press the f1 or f2 or f3 key to turn your Bluetooth option on, 
> note the f1 f2 etc keys are second third and forth keys in from the left end 
> of the top row, the most top left key is escape or home.
> 
> So once the board is on press and hold down the f key you want to use 
> Hold it down for approx. 3 seconds and key watching your Bluetooth devices on 
> your device
> If the device is an IOS device like iPhone 
> Then under Bluetooth the k380 will show up to the very right of the Bluetooth 
> connected devices.
> 
> hth
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019 4:00 AM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
> 
> Thank you very much for your feedback, Simon. I tried associating my iPhone 
> with all three possibilities,but the keyboard layout remained the same. It’s 
> a pain using it this way, but I guess I will just have to live with it.
> 
> Take care and thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12.02.2019, at 09:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I have this same board.
>> 
>> The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.
>> 
>> I've got my iPhone on f3 
>> Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 
>> 
>> I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
>> left corner to the space bar worked this way:
>> 
>> Ctrl fn, option and nothing,
>> 
>> On windows it went,
>> Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 
>> 
>> On the mac book: 
>> Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.
>> 
>> So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.
>> 
>> As for pairing your devices,
>> 
>> Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
>> than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
>> pairing.
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
>> with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
>> something went wrong.
>> 
>> Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  
>> While this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a way 
>> to reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use 
>> the same keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite 
>> figured out how this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual 
>> for this keyboard would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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RE: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Simon Fogarty]

Mike,

The power switch is on the left hand edge near the top,
 This needs to be pushed UP to be on,

Then once on press the f1 or f2 or f3 key to turn your Bluetooth option on, 
note the f1 f2 etc keys are second third and forth keys in from the left end of 
the top row, the most top left key is escape or home.

 So once the board is on press and hold down the f key you want to use 
Hold it down for approx. 3 seconds and key watching your Bluetooth devices on 
your device
If the device is an IOS device like iPhone 
Then under Bluetooth the k380 will show up to the very right of the Bluetooth 
connected devices.

hth

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Michael Busboom
Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019 4:00 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

Thank you very much for your feedback, Simon. I tried associating my iPhone 
with all three possibilities,but the keyboard layout remained the same. It’s a 
pain using it this way, but I guess I will just have to live with it.

Take care and thanks.

Mike



> On 12.02.2019, at 09:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I have this same board.
> 
> The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.
> 
> I've got my iPhone on f3 
> Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 
> 
> I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
> left corner to the space bar worked this way:
> 
> Ctrl fn, option and nothing,
> 
> On windows it went,
> Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 
> 
> On the mac book: 
> Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.
> 
> So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.
> 
> As for pairing your devices,
> 
> Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
> than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
> pairing.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
> 
> Hello.
> 
> For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
> with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
> something went wrong.
> 
> Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  
> While this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a way 
> to reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use the 
> same keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite figured 
> out how this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual for this 
> keyboard would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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RE: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes on the lowest row of keys you have from left to right:
Ctrl, function (fn), Command Key, Option, space Bar,
No the keys don't change if you press the function keys, f1 f2 etc.

If you press the Fn key with f1 or f2 f3 etc then you get different things with 
the f1 etc keys happening.

If you use option and some keys give you different commands to ctrl key and the 
same key as before command key and f gives a search in some apps is different 
to ctrl f or option f.

If your using voice over then try pressing ctrl and option and k to get the the 
keyboard help which will let you press all kinds of key combinations to find 
out what things do what.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Michael Busboom
Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019 1:07 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

I am wondering if the keyboard layout is different, depending if F1, F2 or F3 
is initially pressed.  Currently, Option is closest to the spacebar, Control is 
the furthest from the spacebar, and Command is one of the two remaining.  I 
hope that I can change this somehow.  This keyboard is otherwise really nice, 
and it goes forever on two triple-A batteries.



> On 12.02.2019, at 09:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I have this same board.
> 
> The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.
> 
> I've got my iPhone on f3 
> Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 
> 
> I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
> left corner to the space bar worked this way:
> 
> Ctrl fn, option and nothing,
> 
> On windows it went,
> Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 
> 
> On the mac book: 
> Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.
> 
> So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.
> 
> As for pairing your devices,
> 
> Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
> than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
> pairing.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
> 
> Hello.
> 
> For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
> with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
> something went wrong.
> 
> Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  
> While this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a way 
> to reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use the 
> same keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite figured 
> out how this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual for this 
> keyboard would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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Re: Setting up Iphone XR.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The problem for me is that i have problems remembering complicated digit codes.
But i might set things up with a 6 digit code just to be as secure as posible.
/A

> 12 feb. 2019 kl. 17:18 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Setting up Face ID is quite easy from a VO prospective.  If you were not able 
> in the initial set up screens, you can do this under the Face ID section in 
> Settings.  With VO on, you will be guided through the steps with audio 
> assistance and the Attention aspect of things whereby eye contact is needed 
> will automatically be disabled.  Basically, you will face the screen, then 
> turn slightly right or left and do an eight point recognition cycle where the 
> iPhone takes note at the bottom left/centre/right, top left/centre/right and 
> mid left and right.  Once all those points have been sufficiently noted,, 
> Face ID is ready to use.
> 
> You will still need the pass-code every once in a while, as in after an 
> iPhone restart etc.BTW, there is the ability to change the Pass-code to a 
> four digit or more complicated.  I don't recommend a four digit code as it is 
> not particularly secure, but it is doable.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 00:42, Anders Holmberg  <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The Ipad is running the latest Ios yes.
> And i actually held the back camera above my Ipad.
> The Ipad has no glassprotection and such but nothing works so i set it up 
> manually and now things seem to work.
> The only problem now for me is the FaceId part.
> I know its something i can do without as i can have a passcode but it would 
> be great to have it.
> The first time it fell on my frustration that the passcode had to be a 6 
> digit code because there was no other alternative to ad for example a 4 digit 
> one.
> THe other try it claimed that faceId was not availlable.
> Well i guess its just to try and try until it works.
> But i am very impressed of the speakers and the way it sound.
> And it seems very fast too so i’m glad i took the plunge back to Iphone.
> I am really happy i can type on the screen with no problems.
> Sorry for my long blabla message.
> /A
> 
>> 12 feb. 2019 kl. 01:30 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> Now I’m no expert but I have a couple of thoughts.  Have you held the XR 
>> above the iPad with the back camera of the iPhone facing the iPad?  Once the 
>> process starts then you can lay the two devices next to each other.  At 
>> least that is how I remember doing it when I upgraded from my 5s to my 8+.  
>> But I could be remembering wrong. 
>> And is the iPad running the latest IOS? 
>> 
>>> On 12/02/2019, at 1:02 PM, Anders Holmberg >> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Since i have both an Ipad mini 4 and Iphone XR I try to make the Ipad mini 
>>> to quick setup my Iphone.
>>> However it does not seem to work. 
>>> It says that i should put them beside each other and i do that with no luck.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> /A
>>> 
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Re: Setting up Iphone XR.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Setting up Face ID is quite easy from a VO prospective.  If you were not able 
in the initial set up screens, you can do this under the Face ID section in 
Settings.  With VO on, you will be guided through the steps with audio 
assistance and the Attention aspect of things whereby eye contact is needed 
will automatically be disabled.  Basically, you will face the screen, then turn 
slightly right or left and do an eight point recognition cycle where the iPhone 
takes note at the bottom left/centre/right, top left/centre/right and mid left 
and right.  Once all those points have been sufficiently noted,, Face ID is 
ready to use.

You will still need the pass-code every once in a while, as in after an iPhone 
restart etc.BTW, there is the ability to change the Pass-code to a four digit 
or more complicated.  I don't recommend a four digit code as it is not 
particularly secure, but it is doable.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 12, 2019, at 00:42, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
The Ipad is running the latest Ios yes.
And i actually held the back camera above my Ipad.
The Ipad has no glassprotection and such but nothing works so i set it up 
manually and now things seem to work.
The only problem now for me is the FaceId part.
I know its something i can do without as i can have a passcode but it would be 
great to have it.
The first time it fell on my frustration that the passcode had to be a 6 digit 
code because there was no other alternative to ad for example a 4 digit one.
THe other try it claimed that faceId was not availlable.
Well i guess its just to try and try until it works.
But i am very impressed of the speakers and the way it sound.
And it seems very fast too so i’m glad i took the plunge back to Iphone.
I am really happy i can type on the screen with no problems.
Sorry for my long blabla message.
/A

> 12 feb. 2019 kl. 01:30 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> Now I’m no expert but I have a couple of thoughts.  Have you held the XR 
> above the iPad with the back camera of the iPhone facing the iPad?  Once the 
> process starts then you can lay the two devices next to each other.  At least 
> that is how I remember doing it when I upgraded from my 5s to my 8+.  But I 
> could be remembering wrong. 
> And is the iPad running the latest IOS? 
> 
>> On 12/02/2019, at 1:02 PM, Anders Holmberg > <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Since i have both an Ipad mini 4 and Iphone XR I try to make the Ipad mini 
>> to quick setup my Iphone.
>> However it does not seem to work. 
>> It says that i should put them beside each other and i do that with no luck.
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
>> 
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Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Michael Busboom]

Thank you very much for your feedback, Simon. I tried associating my iPhone 
with all three possibilities,but the keyboard layout remained the same. It’s a 
pain using it this way, but I guess I will just have to live with it.

Take care and thanks.

Mike



> On 12.02.2019, at 09:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I have this same board.
> 
> The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.
> 
> I've got my iPhone on f3 
> Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 
> 
> I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
> left corner to the space bar worked this way:
> 
> Ctrl fn, option and nothing,
> 
> On windows it went,
> Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 
> 
> On the mac book: 
> Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.
> 
> So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.
> 
> As for pairing your devices,
> 
> Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
> than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
> pairing.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
> 
> Hello.
> 
> For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
> with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
> something went wrong.
> 
> Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  
> While this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a way 
> to reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use the 
> same keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite figured 
> out how this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual for this 
> keyboard would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
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Re: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Michael Busboom]

I am wondering if the keyboard layout is different, depending if F1, F2 or F3 
is initially pressed.  Currently, Option is closest to the spacebar, Control is 
the furthest from the spacebar, and Command is one of the two remaining.  I 
hope that I can change this somehow.  This keyboard is otherwise really nice, 
and it goes forever on two triple-A batteries.



> On 12.02.2019, at 09:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I have this same board.
> 
> The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.
> 
> I've got my iPhone on f3 
> Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 
> 
> I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
> left corner to the space bar worked this way:
> 
> Ctrl fn, option and nothing,
> 
> On windows it went,
> Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 
> 
> On the mac book: 
> Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.
> 
> So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.
> 
> As for pairing your devices,
> 
> Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
> than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
> pairing.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Busboom
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR
> 
> Hello.
> 
> For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
> with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
> something went wrong.
> 
> Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  
> While this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a way 
> to reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use the 
> same keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite figured 
> out how this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual for this 
> keyboard would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
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RE: Setting up Iphone XR.

[Simon Fogarty]

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I told you this guy was good!

I trained him so well he’s getting to good.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 1:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up Iphone XR.

Hi Anders,
Now I’m no expert but I have a couple of thoughts.  Have you held the XR above 
the iPad with the back camera of the iPhone facing the iPad?  Once the process 
starts then you can lay the two devices next to each other.  At least that is 
how I remember doing it when I upgraded from my 5s to my 8+.  But I could be 
remembering wrong.
And is the iPad running the latest IOS?


On 12/02/2019, at 1:02 PM, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Since i have both an Ipad mini 4 and Iphone XR I try to make the Ipad mini to 
quick setup my Iphone.
However it does not seem to work.
It says that i should put them beside each other and i do that with no luck.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I have this same board.

 The f1 f2 and f3 keys all allow you to pair with a different device.

I've got my iPhone on f3 
Windows computer on f1 and mac book on F2 

I did notice when first pairing with my phone that the keys from the bottom 
left corner to the space bar worked this way:

Ctrl fn, option and nothing,

On windows it went,
Ctrl, fn, windows key and then alt / option 

On the mac book: 
Ctrl, Fn, Command & Option.

So something in the IOS version on my phone appears to be screwed up.

As for pairing your devices,

Just hold down the F1 F2 F3 keys one device at a time for approx. 5 seconds 
than then see if it shows in your devices available Bluetooth devices for 
pairing.
Hope that helps.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Michael Busboom
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 5:27 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

Hello.

For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
something went wrong.

Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  While 
this isn’t necessarily a showstopper, I am wondering if there is a way to 
reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use the same 
keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite figured out how 
this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual for this keyboard 
would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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Re: Setting up Iphone XR.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The Ipad is running the latest Ios yes.
And i actually held the back camera above my Ipad.
The Ipad has no glassprotection and such but nothing works so i set it up 
manually and now things seem to work.
The only problem now for me is the FaceId part.
I know its something i can do without as i can have a passcode but it would be 
great to have it.
The first time it fell on my frustration that the passcode had to be a 6 digit 
code because there was no other alternative to ad for example a 4 digit one.
THe other try it claimed that faceId was not availlable.
Well i guess its just to try and try until it works.
But i am very impressed of the speakers and the way it sound.
And it seems very fast too so i’m glad i took the plunge back to Iphone.
I am really happy i can type on the screen with no problems.
Sorry for my long blabla message.
/A

> 12 feb. 2019 kl. 01:30 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> Now I’m no expert but I have a couple of thoughts.  Have you held the XR 
> above the iPad with the back camera of the iPhone facing the iPad?  Once the 
> process starts then you can lay the two devices next to each other.  At least 
> that is how I remember doing it when I upgraded from my 5s to my 8+.  But I 
> could be remembering wrong. 
> And is the iPad running the latest IOS? 
> 
>> On 12/02/2019, at 1:02 PM, Anders Holmberg > <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Since i have both an Ipad mini 4 and Iphone XR I try to make the Ipad mini 
>> to quick setup my Iphone.
>> However it does not seem to work. 
>> It says that i should put them beside each other and i do that with no luck.
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
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Re: Setting up Iphone XR.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Anders,
Now I’m no expert but I have a couple of thoughts.  Have you held the XR above 
the iPad with the back camera of the iPhone facing the iPad?  Once the process 
starts then you can lay the two devices next to each other.  At least that is 
how I remember doing it when I upgraded from my 5s to my 8+.  But I could be 
remembering wrong. 
And is the iPad running the latest IOS? 

> On 12/02/2019, at 1:02 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Since i have both an Ipad mini 4 and Iphone XR I try to make the Ipad mini to 
> quick setup my Iphone.
> However it does not seem to work. 
> It says that i should put them beside each other and i do that with no luck.
> Any thoughts on this?
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Setting up Iphone XR.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Since i have both an Ipad mini 4 and Iphone XR I try to make the Ipad mini to 
quick setup my Iphone.
However it does not seem to work. 
It says that i should put them beside each other and i do that with no luck.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Problems with Logitech K380 Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone XR

[Michael Busboom]

Hello.

For quite some time now, I have happily been using a Logitech k380 keyboard 
with various iPhones.  Yesterday, however, when installing new batteries, 
something went wrong.

Basically,the keys for Command, Option and Control were switched around.  While 
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reassign the keys differently.  There is also  apparently a way to use the same 
keyboard with several different devices, though I haven’t quite figured out how 
this is accomplished.  Any thoughts or pointers to a manual for this keyboard 
would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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Re: Iphone XR some questions before i start.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, pressing the power button three times quickly (it's now referred to 
by Apple as the "side button") should start VoiceOver.



To reach the Home Screen, slide one finger up from the very bottom of 
the screen until the second beep is heard. (There should be a slight 
vibration as well.)



For App Switcher, it's the same gesture, but continuing further up the 
screen until the third tone.



Searching for iPhone X discussion should reveal anything on Applevis.com 
or elsewhere that is relevant.



On 2/3/19 10:11 AM, Robin wrote:
Try Triple Clickin the Power button as I Believe it has incorporated 
some of the  Features, which were associated with the Home Button

At 06:40 AM 2/3/2019, you wrote:

Hi!
Before i start  unpacking my Iphone XR i would like to have som tips 
on how to get started.
For example, how do i start Voiceover without home button and since 
there’s no home button how do i get to the home screen?
I have tried to find podcast regarding Iphone  XR on appleVis but 
haven’t found any.

Maybe because i did  a faulty search.
BUt any help is appreciated.
/A

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Re: Iphone XR some questions before i start.

[Robin]

Try Triple Clickin the Power button as I Believe 
it has incorporated  some of the  Features, which 
were associated with the Home Button

At 06:40 AM 2/3/2019, you wrote:

Hi!
Before i start  unpacking my Iphone XR i would 
like to have som tips on how to get started.
For example, how do i start Voiceover without 
home button and since there’s no home button how do i get to the home screen?
I have tried to find podcast regarding 
Iphone  XR on appleVis but haven’t found any.

Maybe because i did  a faulty search.
BUt any help is appreciated.
/A

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Iphone XR some questions before i start.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Before i start  unpacking my Iphone XR i would like to have som tips on how to 
get started.
For example, how do i start Voiceover without home button and since there’s no 
home button how do i get to the home screen?
I have tried to find podcast regarding Iphone  XR on appleVis but haven’t found 
any.
Maybe because i did  a faulty search.
BUt any help is appreciated.
/A

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Re: Iphone XR.

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I  thought the otter  box case came with a built-in screen protecter.

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
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> I’m pleased with the Otterbox.  You also need a screen protector.
> Chris
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Any good  protection for the Iphone XR.
>> I actually will get mine tomorrow or on friday maybe.
>> I got it on a data plan but i do want some good protection.
>> Maybe the otterbox defender case.
>> /A
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Re: Iphone XR.

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I’m pleased with the Otterbox.  You also need a screen protector.
Chris

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Any good  protection for the Iphone XR.
> I actually will get mine tomorrow or on friday maybe.
> I got it on a data plan but i do want some good protection.
> Maybe the otterbox defender case.
> /A
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Iphone XR.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Any good  protection for the Iphone XR.
I actually will get mine tomorrow or on friday maybe.
I got it on a data plan but i do want some good protection.
Maybe the otterbox defender case.
/A

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Re: Apple iPhone XR Reviews, Barron's

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

Seems it is time for a new phone if its camera is better in low lighting for 
artificial sight,
Have the 7 now, and while it. Is good , it could always be better...


Sent from my iPad

> On 29 Oct 2018, at 10.52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Very interesting as usual Mark.
> Sadly its to big for me.
> I have both the Nokia 8 and an Iphone Se and the Se is pritty neat.
> A bit hard to type on but i love it.
> THe Nokia 8 is the Best Android phone i’ve used so far.
> But if i would buy me a new apple Iphone i think i’d go for the xs.
> /A
> 
>> 29 okt. 2018 kl. 01:33 skrev M. Taylor :
>> 
>> What Reviewers Are Saying About the New Apple iPhone XR
>> By David Marino-Nachison
>> Oct. 28, 2018 8:00 a.m. ET
>> 
>> When Apple 's (ticker: APPL) first two new iPhones-the XS and XS Max-came
>> out, many reviewers suggested that shoppers wait a few weeks until the
>> slightly less-expensive XR came out. 
>> "Good news, Apple loyalists: You won't have to burn $1,000 on your next
>> iPhone," Brian X. Chen wrote for the New York Times. "That's because for
>> about $750, you can have the iPhone XR, which is just as fast and nearly as
>> capable as its more expensive counterparts. The cheaper iPhone, which
>> becomes available this Friday, is the model that most people should buy."
>> We already rounded up reviews of the first phones. Here's a selection of
>> highlights from reviews of the newest one. 
>> . First off: What's the difference? Edward Baig collected some of the
>> distinctions, including different screen technology and some cosmetic
>> changes, for USA Today. There's also screen size:
>> The XR, he wrote, "has a display size of 6.1 inches, putting it in between
>> the XS screen (5.8 inches) and the XS Max (6.5 inches). Accordingly, the
>> phone is slightly larger than the XS and slightly smaller than the XS Max."
>> . Nilay Patel, writing for the Verge, went pretty deep on what the screen
>> technology differences really mean to users. 
>> "The iPhone XR LCD definitely shifts a little pink and drops brightness
>> quickly when you look at it off-axis, which often leads to a bit of a
>> shimmery effect when you move the phone around," Patel wrote. "I noticed
>> that shimmer right away, but I had to point it out to other people for them
>> to see it. (It's one of those things you might not notice at first, but you
>> can't un-see it.)"
>> . Power users of phone cameras may wish they had the more expensive models,
>> according to The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern. 
>> "The XR has the same great wide-angle camera as the XS phones, but lacks the
>> second telephoto lens for true optical zoom..With just one camera, Apple
>> still enables Portrait Mode-the setting that tries to mimic SLR cameras by
>> applying artificial blur around a subject. Instead of using the two cameras,
>> Apple uses software tricks to try to distinguish the main subject from the
>> background," Stern wrote. 
>> "As crazy as it seems, this is actually a deal breaker for me, as I snap
>> tons of photos of my son and dog together. (I did confirm, however, that the
>> front-facing selfie camera will work for those animal portrait shots.) On
>> the plus side, portrait shots in low light on the XR were better than on the
>> XS since the wide-angle camera lets in more light," according to Stern. 
>> . And the phone doesn't share a touch feature with its more expensive
>> siblings, noted Scott Stein for CNET.
>> "The iPhone XR doesn't have the pressure-sensitive 3-D Touch feature that
>> lets you do things like preview links, messages and files before opening
>> them, as the iPhones 6S, 7, 8, X and XS series do," he wrote. "In its place,
>> the iPhone XR gives little pulses of vibration feedback-called 'haptics'-for
>> the lock screen camera and flashlight icons. Instead of pressing down,
>> holding a finger on them will open them. Same for the Control Center's
>> deeper controls. It kinda feels the same as 3-D Touch."
>> . The XR may be the least expensive of the phones, Chris Velazco wrote for
>> Engaget, but that doesn't mean it's "cheap."
>> "The XR is a little wider, thicker and taller than the XS, but it never
>> feels unwieldy," he wrote. "In fact, since it in sits in a nice little sweet
>> spot between the XS and the massive Max, the XR arguably offers the best
>> blend of size and usability. Build quality is up to Apple's usual standards,
>> which is t

Re: Apple iPhone XR Reviews, Barron's

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Very interesting as usual Mark.
Sadly its to big for me.
I have both the Nokia 8 and an Iphone Se and the Se is pritty neat.
A bit hard to type on but i love it.
THe Nokia 8 is the Best Android phone i’ve used so far.
But if i would buy me a new apple Iphone i think i’d go for the xs.
/A

> 29 okt. 2018 kl. 01:33 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> What Reviewers Are Saying About the New Apple iPhone XR
> By David Marino-Nachison
> Oct. 28, 2018 8:00 a.m. ET
> 
> When Apple 's (ticker: APPL) first two new iPhones-the XS and XS Max-came
> out, many reviewers suggested that shoppers wait a few weeks until the
> slightly less-expensive XR came out. 
> "Good news, Apple loyalists: You won't have to burn $1,000 on your next
> iPhone," Brian X. Chen wrote for the New York Times. "That's because for
> about $750, you can have the iPhone XR, which is just as fast and nearly as
> capable as its more expensive counterparts. The cheaper iPhone, which
> becomes available this Friday, is the model that most people should buy."
> We already rounded up reviews of the first phones. Here's a selection of
> highlights from reviews of the newest one. 
> . First off: What's the difference? Edward Baig collected some of the
> distinctions, including different screen technology and some cosmetic
> changes, for USA Today. There's also screen size:
> The XR, he wrote, "has a display size of 6.1 inches, putting it in between
> the XS screen (5.8 inches) and the XS Max (6.5 inches). Accordingly, the
> phone is slightly larger than the XS and slightly smaller than the XS Max."
> . Nilay Patel, writing for the Verge, went pretty deep on what the screen
> technology differences really mean to users. 
> "The iPhone XR LCD definitely shifts a little pink and drops brightness
> quickly when you look at it off-axis, which often leads to a bit of a
> shimmery effect when you move the phone around," Patel wrote. "I noticed
> that shimmer right away, but I had to point it out to other people for them
> to see it. (It's one of those things you might not notice at first, but you
> can't un-see it.)"
> . Power users of phone cameras may wish they had the more expensive models,
> according to The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern. 
> "The XR has the same great wide-angle camera as the XS phones, but lacks the
> second telephoto lens for true optical zoom..With just one camera, Apple
> still enables Portrait Mode-the setting that tries to mimic SLR cameras by
> applying artificial blur around a subject. Instead of using the two cameras,
> Apple uses software tricks to try to distinguish the main subject from the
> background," Stern wrote. 
> "As crazy as it seems, this is actually a deal breaker for me, as I snap
> tons of photos of my son and dog together. (I did confirm, however, that the
> front-facing selfie camera will work for those animal portrait shots.) On
> the plus side, portrait shots in low light on the XR were better than on the
> XS since the wide-angle camera lets in more light," according to Stern. 
> . And the phone doesn't share a touch feature with its more expensive
> siblings, noted Scott Stein for CNET.
> "The iPhone XR doesn't have the pressure-sensitive 3-D Touch feature that
> lets you do things like preview links, messages and files before opening
> them, as the iPhones 6S, 7, 8, X and XS series do," he wrote. "In its place,
> the iPhone XR gives little pulses of vibration feedback-called 'haptics'-for
> the lock screen camera and flashlight icons. Instead of pressing down,
> holding a finger on them will open them. Same for the Control Center's
> deeper controls. It kinda feels the same as 3-D Touch."
> . The XR may be the least expensive of the phones, Chris Velazco wrote for
> Engaget, but that doesn't mean it's "cheap."
> "The XR is a little wider, thicker and taller than the XS, but it never
> feels unwieldy," he wrote. "In fact, since it in sits in a nice little sweet
> spot between the XS and the massive Max, the XR arguably offers the best
> blend of size and usability. Build quality is up to Apple's usual standards,
> which is to say it's impeccable. The iPhone XR may cost less than the phones
> I reviewed a month ago, but it doesn't feel like it."
> . If you care about phone colors, read Raymond Wong's review for Mashable. 
> "I've been using the yellow iPhone XR for a week, and oooh, is it gorgeous,"
> he wrote. "Besides pairing well with my yellow sunglasses, the color just
> makes me happy. Imagine that: In 2018, when phone anxiety is real and tech
> companies are inventing new ways t

Apple iPhone XR Reviews, Barron's

[M. Taylor]

What Reviewers Are Saying About the New Apple iPhone XR
By David Marino-Nachison
Oct. 28, 2018 8:00 a.m. ET

When Apple 's (ticker: APPL) first two new iPhones-the XS and XS Max-came
out, many reviewers suggested that shoppers wait a few weeks until the
slightly less-expensive XR came out. 
"Good news, Apple loyalists: You won't have to burn $1,000 on your next
iPhone," Brian X. Chen wrote for the New York Times. "That's because for
about $750, you can have the iPhone XR, which is just as fast and nearly as
capable as its more expensive counterparts. The cheaper iPhone, which
becomes available this Friday, is the model that most people should buy."
We already rounded up reviews of the first phones. Here's a selection of
highlights from reviews of the newest one. 
. First off: What's the difference? Edward Baig collected some of the
distinctions, including different screen technology and some cosmetic
changes, for USA Today. There's also screen size:
The XR, he wrote, "has a display size of 6.1 inches, putting it in between
the XS screen (5.8 inches) and the XS Max (6.5 inches). Accordingly, the
phone is slightly larger than the XS and slightly smaller than the XS Max."
. Nilay Patel, writing for the Verge, went pretty deep on what the screen
technology differences really mean to users. 
"The iPhone XR LCD definitely shifts a little pink and drops brightness
quickly when you look at it off-axis, which often leads to a bit of a
shimmery effect when you move the phone around," Patel wrote. "I noticed
that shimmer right away, but I had to point it out to other people for them
to see it. (It's one of those things you might not notice at first, but you
can't un-see it.)"
. Power users of phone cameras may wish they had the more expensive models,
according to The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern. 
"The XR has the same great wide-angle camera as the XS phones, but lacks the
second telephoto lens for true optical zoom..With just one camera, Apple
still enables Portrait Mode-the setting that tries to mimic SLR cameras by
applying artificial blur around a subject. Instead of using the two cameras,
Apple uses software tricks to try to distinguish the main subject from the
background," Stern wrote. 
"As crazy as it seems, this is actually a deal breaker for me, as I snap
tons of photos of my son and dog together. (I did confirm, however, that the
front-facing selfie camera will work for those animal portrait shots.) On
the plus side, portrait shots in low light on the XR were better than on the
XS since the wide-angle camera lets in more light," according to Stern. 
. And the phone doesn't share a touch feature with its more expensive
siblings, noted Scott Stein for CNET.
"The iPhone XR doesn't have the pressure-sensitive 3-D Touch feature that
lets you do things like preview links, messages and files before opening
them, as the iPhones 6S, 7, 8, X and XS series do," he wrote. "In its place,
the iPhone XR gives little pulses of vibration feedback-called 'haptics'-for
the lock screen camera and flashlight icons. Instead of pressing down,
holding a finger on them will open them. Same for the Control Center's
deeper controls. It kinda feels the same as 3-D Touch."
. The XR may be the least expensive of the phones, Chris Velazco wrote for
Engaget, but that doesn't mean it's "cheap."
"The XR is a little wider, thicker and taller than the XS, but it never
feels unwieldy," he wrote. "In fact, since it in sits in a nice little sweet
spot between the XS and the massive Max, the XR arguably offers the best
blend of size and usability. Build quality is up to Apple's usual standards,
which is to say it's impeccable. The iPhone XR may cost less than the phones
I reviewed a month ago, but it doesn't feel like it."
. If you care about phone colors, read Raymond Wong's review for Mashable. 
"I've been using the yellow iPhone XR for a week, and oooh, is it gorgeous,"
he wrote. "Besides pairing well with my yellow sunglasses, the color just
makes me happy. Imagine that: In 2018, when phone anxiety is real and tech
companies are inventing new ways to make us use our phones less, a gadget's
brightly colored paint job actually puts me at ease. The five other colors
the iPhone XR comes in are just as fun. I have a soft spot for the coral
after yellow."
. From a buyers' perspective, Lauren Goode's take for Wired seems to sum up
what many reviewers think about how to choose between the three new iPhones.

"The iPhone XR is not the most technologically advanced iPhone; many of
Apple's superior components have been reserved for the costlier device," she
wrote. "But the iPhone XR is still a moderately great phone. It's great not
in the way that super-futuristic,

Hourly chime on iPhone XR

[Angus MacKinnon]

I will save my 6 Hour Tech Gremlin at the Apple Store story. I have a brand new 
Black iPhone that I enjoyed setting up and customizing. I was wondering if it 
is possible to have the iPhone XR chime on the hour? Or do I need to export my 
Westminster Chimes App to the iPhone XR? Thank you.

Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
Hands Off Our Harness
http://www.hooh.ca
Charles Péguy said, “The revolution is moral or not at all”


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