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Hi Brandon, I don’t even believe there is a version of Microsoft Access available for Mac OS X (accessible or otherwise). Therefore, there seems to be a misunderstanding on their part about which version of Office is right for her. Best, Grant On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Not to respond for her, but they are actually trying to get her Office for the Mac, which is why we’re asking if it’s accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Christine, It sounds like your workplace uses Windows. You will probably receive copies of Microsoft Office for Windows and a Windows-based screen reader, such as JAWS for Windows or Window-Eyes. If you intend to run these on your personal Mac, you'll have to install Windows on your Mac (e.g. via Boot Camp). Best, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Christine Olivares rafael4...@gmail.com mailto:rafael4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it. Thanks so much, Christine On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com mailto:mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are
Re: MS Office Accessibility
I read on this list a while back that Microsoft listed on their website that Office 2011 for Mac was accessible with VoiceOver, even though it clearly is not. So maybe that’s y the Commission thinks that it is accessible. I’ve found this to be a fairly common situation in the work environment, where large suppliers of enterprise software advertise their apps as accessible, so business and government buy them, when in fact the accessibility is half-baked at best. It would be good if there was a recognised body internationally (e.g. AppleVis) that could provide certification of accessibility with particular screen readers. Companies could submit their apps to this organisation for accessibility testing and certification, and advertise if they get the certification, and consumers could know whether the claims to accessibility were self-proclaimed accessibility or certified accessibility. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MS Office Accessibility
That'll be a hard road for you I'm afraid. Iwork does not have an equivilant to microsoft access that I know about. In this case, you might be stuck with windows. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Christine Olivares rafael4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it. Thanks so much, Christine On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected
MS Office Accessibility
Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MS Office Accessibility
Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Oh I don't know then. I thought I heard somewhere on this list. Obviously not. On 19 Dec 2014, at 19:20, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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That is odd. My wife is getting a new Mac through our state’s commission for the Blind, and they refuse to get her iWork. Instead they are getting her MS Office, insisting that it is accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Oh I don't know then. I thought I heard somewhere on this list. Obviously not. On 19 Dec 2014, at 19:20, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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It's not. The good news is that iWork is free on all new Macs, so she'll be able to download Pages, Keynote, and Numbers for free from the App Store. On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: That is odd. My wife is getting a new Mac through our state’s commission for the Blind, and they refuse to get her iWork. Instead they are getting her MS Office, insisting that it is accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Oh I don't know then. I thought I heard somewhere on this list. Obviously not. On 19 Dec 2014, at 19:20, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MS Office Accessibility
Hi there I'm not sure since I haven't gotten a new Mac lately, but is not iWork's already installed on new Macintosh computers? So it seems to me that she will probably get it anyway. I think it comes free with all new Macintoshes. Also, the last I heard, office for the Mac cost $150, so if it's not accessible, but will be spending extra money they don't have to. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: That is odd. My wife is getting a new Mac through our state’s commission for the Blind, and they refuse to get her iWork. Instead they are getting her MS Office, insisting that it is accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Oh I don't know then. I thought I heard somewhere on this list. Obviously not. On 19 Dec 2014, at 19:20, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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iWorks is not installed by default; it is available at no charge in the App Store instead. On 19 Dec 2014, at 20:54, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I'm not sure since I haven't gotten a new Mac lately, but is not iWork's already installed on new Macintosh computers? So it seems to me that she will probably get it anyway. I think it comes free with all new Macintoshes. Also, the last I heard, office for the Mac cost $150, so if it's not accessible, but will be spending extra money they don't have to. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: That is odd. My wife is getting a new Mac through our state’s commission for the Blind, and they refuse to get her iWork. Instead they are getting her MS Office, insisting that it is accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Oh I don't know then. I thought I heard somewhere on this list. Obviously not. On 19 Dec 2014, at 19:20, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received
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I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
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I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message
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It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
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Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it. Thanks so much, Christine On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A.
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Hi Christine, It sounds like your workplace uses Windows. You will probably receive copies of Microsoft Office for Windows and a Windows-based screen reader, such as JAWS for Windows or Window-Eyes. If you intend to run these on your personal Mac, you'll have to install Windows on your Mac (e.g. via Boot Camp). Best, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Christine Olivares rafael4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it. Thanks so much, Christine On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and
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Not to respond for her, but they are actually trying to get her Office for the Mac, which is why we’re asking if it’s accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Christine, It sounds like your workplace uses Windows. You will probably receive copies of Microsoft Office for Windows and a Windows-based screen reader, such as JAWS for Windows or Window-Eyes. If you intend to run these on your personal Mac, you'll have to install Windows on your Mac (e.g. via Boot Camp). Best, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Christine Olivares rafael4...@gmail.com mailto:rafael4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it. Thanks so much, Christine On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com mailto:mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit
Re: MS Office Accessibility
It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense purchasing a paid, inaccessible product when there is a free perfectly accessible suite of products available. On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Not to respond for her, but they are actually trying to get her Office for the Mac, which is why we’re asking if it’s accessible. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Christine, It sounds like your workplace uses Windows. You will probably receive copies of Microsoft Office for Windows and a Windows-based screen reader, such as JAWS for Windows or Window-Eyes. If you intend to run these on your personal Mac, you'll have to install Windows on your Mac (e.g. via Boot Camp). Best, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Christine Olivares rafael4...@gmail.com mailto:rafael4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it. Thanks so much, Christine On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to import from. But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com mailto:mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on the iOS is what I am referring too. Sean On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know if this is feasible. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility
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Ah ha! Now that's where I probably read about the next version of MS Office being accessible because of their Outlook app. On 19/12/2014 23:55, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Faisal, I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. Cheers, Grant Sent from mobile On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote: Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and twitterific amongst others. On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till they're released sometime in 2015. On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this recently. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the Mac. Advocacy!
That is all fine and good. But it is more than accessibility. Even the sited community says that the office suite for the mac is clunky, and not very user friendly. So trust me if it were an accessibility thing, the suite wouldn't need an update. On May 21, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Chris Snyder ch...@chris-snyder.com wrote: Hi all, Microsoft Office will be releasing an updated version of its office suite of apps for the Mac later this year. I haven't been looped in on any campaigns for accessibility for the updates, but here's what I suggest. We need to go to their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/Office and each politely make a request that the next version of Office for Mac be made accessible. For so many years, Mac users have been told that the reason PC's are better is because they're more productive in the workplace, and Jaws and Window-Eyes make Office accessible for the windows platform. It is past time to make sure that Office becomes accessible to Voiceover users. I have found that sending comments directly to a company's Facebook page is a wonderful way to get them to respond quickly and positively. By doing this, we are putting the issue right in front of them in a respectful way, but in a way they cannot ignore. I urge all of you to join me in this. Together, we can make the next version accessible for all. Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the Mac. Advocacy!
Thanks Chris. I'll have to set up a Facebook account then. I've already set a Twitter account up. Not used it yet. Will do as you say later on. On 22 May 2014, at 01:51 am, Chris Snyder ch...@chris-snyder.com wrote: Hi all, Microsoft Office will be releasing an updated version of its office suite of apps for the Mac later this year. I haven't been looped in on any campaigns for accessibility for the updates, but here's what I suggest. We need to go to their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/Office and each politely make a request that the next version of Office for Mac be made accessible. For so many years, Mac users have been told that the reason PC's are better is because they're more productive in the workplace, and Jaws and Window-Eyes make Office accessible for the windows platform. It is past time to make sure that Office becomes accessible to Voiceover users. I have found that sending comments directly to a company's Facebook page is a wonderful way to get them to respond quickly and positively. By doing this, we are putting the issue right in front of them in a respectful way, but in a way they cannot ignore. I urge all of you to join me in this. Together, we can make the next version accessible for all. Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
MS Office accessibility on the Mac. Advocacy!
Hi all, Microsoft Office will be releasing an updated version of its office suite of apps for the Mac later this year. I haven't been looped in on any campaigns for accessibility for the updates, but here's what I suggest. We need to go to their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/Office and each politely make a request that the next version of Office for Mac be made accessible. For so many years, Mac users have been told that the reason PC's are better is because they're more productive in the workplace, and Jaws and Window-Eyes make Office accessible for the windows platform. It is past time to make sure that Office becomes accessible to Voiceover users. I have found that sending comments directly to a company's Facebook page is a wonderful way to get them to respond quickly and positively. By doing this, we are putting the issue right in front of them in a respectful way, but in a way they cannot ignore. I urge all of you to join me in this. Together, we can make the next version accessible for all. Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Mail for mac, works fine with exchange. Just make sure you use E w s when setting up the exchange connection / account. E w s stands for Exchange web service, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 11:41 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Actually, the mail program on the mac works with Microsoft Exchange, you should not need office for that. On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Well, XLS orks for sure. I use that one a lot. I'm not sure about xlsx, but it handles docx files no problem in the word processor, so it should bring in your excel 2007 sheets OK. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:10 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Really? the Open Office spreadsheet works well with vo? Can you use xls and xlsx spreadsheets? I don't need to make them; I just need to read them. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
OPen office is pretty good except you can't, or I can't get the mail merge working. I cover that in my podcast on editing software. On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
You can use Apple Mail to connect to Exchange servers. I use this daily in the office where I work. On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
I have exchange 2007 accounts set up on my mac and they work just fine. Just use the apple mail client and it will guide you through the set up. On 2010-08-31, at 1:47 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hello Andy, Not everyone has to use Windows at all. I work as a freelance translator and use the Mac exclusively. I use Pages to read and produce Word documents, and Keynote to read and produce PowerPoint presentations. For scanning books, etc I use VueScan, and Abbyy FineReader Express to perform the OCR. I use both English and French and can switch from one to the other in a trice. Never having used Windows, I feel no need to start now, especially since I can accomplish everything I need to with my Mac. Cheers, Anne On 31 Aug 2010, at 14:09, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I agree. I use windows for broadcasting and some games that cannot be, and are not ported to mac. but I use the mac for everything else including making show notes for said broadcast, podcasting, submitting scholarship applications, essays for class and more. The switch is hard but doable if the user is patient. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
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Really, I'll have to give this a shot. Do you have a pointer for the configuration basics? I have all the exchange data but can't figure how to add the service. Thanks On Aug 31, 2010, at 2:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote: You can use Apple Mail to connect to Exchange servers. I use this daily in the office where I work. On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Andy, I couldn't disagree more. The Mac does most things better than windows / JFW. I wouldn't switch back and honestly find it a much more serious computing environment. For a technical professional especially someone in IT or serious network / systems engineering windows just doesn't get it done for me anymore. On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Erik, I couldn't agree more. Having the VM is a great tool for migration. I am already finding I fire it up and use it less and less. I'll figure out the mail sooner than later and go with open office or IWork if it comes down to it. My goal is to drop Windows entirely and uaving it available in a VM player is a wonderful way to slowly migrate off. Also, having the ability to run other images is very valuable. Erik nailed it exactly On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
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Hey Erik, I've been a Mac user for about five years and I finally got my employer to allow me the ability to have a Mac with a WIndows VM. Now they know they will never get me to switch back. I still have to use Windows because of compatibility with certain web applications, but my hope is this will change as well and yes, I am forced to still use Word, Excel, and Power Point because they have not yet gotten iWorks for me. One thing at a time, but hey the big step was achieved and now they will allow anyone who wants a Mac to have a VM as well. Btw, IPal? That sounds familiar, but cannot recall what that is exactly. On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:52 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Scott, you are taking my exact path to the mac, so it's the voice of experience talking, smiles. It took me 6 months to a year before I was switched over. I virtualised my windows and backed up all the programs and settings I'd acquired over the years in my VM. Then every once in a while, I'd get assed opening my vm to do some menial computer chore and go, ah the hell with it, I'll just spend half an hour to an hour looking up a good program for this that or the other thing, and never have to worry about it again. It took a long time to chip my windows reliance down, especially since I have to teach windows and will very soon have a win7 virtual machine here for testing purposes, but it was worth the time and effort. Now I fly around the mac, and as far as I know, I'm the best mac trainer in the province. That hasn't hurt me any. These days I am drooling over the possibility of IPal being released for the mac. At that point I think I could very happily shred my virtual machines and have a lot of electronic confetti for the new years eve lan party, except of course that I still need to teach windows. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 11:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Erik, I couldn't agree more. Having the VM is a great tool for migration. I am already finding I fire it up and use it less and less. I'll figure out the mail sooner than later and go with open office or IWork if it comes down to it. My goal is to drop Windows entirely and uaving it available in a VM player is a wonderful way to slowly migrate off. Also, having the ability to run other images is very valuable. Erik nailed it exactly On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
You knw what else is nice about using a VM is that I can back up the whole image file and restore easily with out having to worry about jfw installations etc. We use VMWare extensively at work so it's nice to be using that on the desk top now. On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:52 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Scott, you are taking my exact path to the mac, so it's the voice of experience talking, smiles. It took me 6 months to a year before I was switched over. I virtualised my windows and backed up all the programs and settings I'd acquired over the years in my VM. Then every once in a while, I'd get assed opening my vm to do some menial computer chore and go, ah the hell with it, I'll just spend half an hour to an hour looking up a good program for this that or the other thing, and never have to worry about it again. It took a long time to chip my windows reliance down, especially since I have to teach windows and will very soon have a win7 virtual machine here for testing purposes, but it was worth the time and effort. Now I fly around the mac, and as far as I know, I'm the best mac trainer in the province. That hasn't hurt me any. These days I am drooling over the possibility of IPal being released for the mac. At that point I think I could very happily shred my virtual machines and have a lot of electronic confetti for the new years eve lan party, except of course that I still need to teach windows. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 11:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Erik, I couldn't agree more. Having the VM is a great tool for migration. I am already finding I fire it up and use it less and less. I'll figure out the mail sooner than later and go with open office or IWork if it comes down to it. My goal is to drop Windows entirely and uaving it available in a VM player is a wonderful way to slowly migrate off. Also, having the ability to run other images is very valuable. Erik nailed it exactly On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
I believe my school mail is an exchange server and works great, but I could be wrong. I do believe I remember seeing Microsoft Exchange somewhere there. On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively and the age old question of Windows versus Mac again
Well, I have windows running under fusion on my Mac, but most of the time, I find myself not needing it for much. I think I really bothered installing it as a security blanket in case I need to write a paper in MS Word. Actually, I just boot it up occasionally to make sure it's still there. LOL!!! Occasionally I find internet explorer works better for some things. Choices, that's what it's all about. On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Yep, I checked and my school mail is exchange and works great. As I recall, it was incredibly easy to set up as well. On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: I have exchange 2007 accounts set up on my mac and they work just fine. Just use the apple mail client and it will guide you through the set up. On 2010-08-31, at 1:47 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Actually, the mail program on the mac works with Microsoft Exchange, you should not need office for that. On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Open office works, there's also apple's iwork suite. On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
I thought there were some fairly serious drawbacks to how VO works with Open Office. Something about paragraphs and each line having to be interacted with or some such? Can't remember. It sounded like a mess. there comes a point when efficient access is what is wanted. some things might be technically usable if you jump through hoops. but how many hoops before you say nuts and just go back to what works without the hoops? If Apple fixes the Word table issue with pages, that seems like a better solution, even though it costs, and Open Office is free. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Agreed, I find the open office word processor useable, but highly inelegant. I'd be lost without the open office spreaddsheet application though. That thing drives my business along with the calendar in my windows mobile phone. I'd be lost without it. So, I'm hoping an update will magically render the word processing application beautiful to the voiceover eye. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 7:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I thought there were some fairly serious drawbacks to how VO works with Open Office. Something about paragraphs and each line having to be interacted with or some such? Can't remember. It sounded like a mess. there comes a point when efficient access is what is wanted. some things might be technically usable if you jump through hoops. but how many hoops before you say nuts and just go back to what works without the hoops? If Apple fixes the Word table issue with pages, that seems like a better solution, even though it costs, and Open Office is free. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Really? the Open Office spreadsheet works well with vo? Can you use xls and xlsx spreadsheets? I don't need to make them; I just need to read them. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
the only thng I seem to be doing under windows these days is using webvisum under firefox. also, sites using flash are slightly more usable with firefox under windows. I look forward to the day when I can free up all of that disk space. Joel On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar
RE: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
I'm not just talking about scott. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than it looks. In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good job of exchange. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer productivity. Andy I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar
MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Office as far as I hear is not accessible. I've contacted MS about this 2 or 3 years ago with no results. Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
Ok, that works. There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly though so that's a good solution. On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use it, will work fine on the windows side. Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 and imap. Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively Hi, I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. Comments? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
