Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-08-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring technology
that got us to where we are today.

With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.  

However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS drive
to one of my computers.  Slowly but surely I am removing all data from NAS
for reasons described in prior threads.  

So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
hours.  

Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a Thunderbolt to
Ethernet adaptor.  

Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in less
than 35 minutes.  

So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
strong.

Happily,

Mark

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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-08-30 Thread BobH.
I have to say, I still prefer a wired connection.

The ethernet protocol, or the entire CSMACD concept is an integral part of 
the modern methods - wi'fi, bluetooth, USB;  it's the only way all the 
devices share the medium.

Rh.
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From: "M. Taylor" 
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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:52 AM
Subject: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet


Hello Everyone,

As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring technology
that got us to where we are today.

With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.

However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS drive
to one of my computers.  Slowly but surely I am removing all data from NAS
for reasons described in prior threads.

So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
hours.

Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a Thunderbolt to
Ethernet adaptor.

Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in less
than 35 minutes.

So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
strong.

Happily,

Mark

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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-08-30 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Cool! I wonder if ethernet would work for the scenario where one needs 
to share files between mac and PC using a PC laptop or desktop and not 
say via Bootcamp or Fusion on the Mac. Over wifi it seems unreliable to 
say the least.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/08/2014 08:52, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring technology
that got us to where we are today.

With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.

However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS drive
to one of my computers.  Slowly but surely I am removing all data from NAS
for reasons described in prior threads.

So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
hours.

Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a Thunderbolt to
Ethernet adaptor.

Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in less
than 35 minutes.

So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
strong.

Happily,

Mark



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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-08-30 Thread BobH.
You can get a dedicated rj45 lead, with a cross-over between two particular 
wires;  but you can plug computers back-to-back if you fiddle with the right 
settings on each pc. You have to enable a server mode and allowed protocols; 
not done for too long, so can't be more specific.

But between PC's, what's wrong with a good old fashioned pen drive, memory 
stick, or whatever else they're called now.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet


Cool! I wonder if ethernet would work for the scenario where one needs
to share files between mac and PC using a PC laptop or desktop and not
say via Bootcamp or Fusion on the Mac. Over wifi it seems unreliable to
say the least.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/08/2014 08:52, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring 
> technology
> that got us to where we are today.
>
> With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
> manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.
>
> However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS 
> drive
> to one of my computers.  Slowly but surely I am removing all data from NAS
> for reasons described in prior threads.
>
> So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
> hours.
>
> Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a Thunderbolt 
> to
> Ethernet adaptor.
>
> Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in less
> than 35 minutes.
>
> So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
> old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
> strong.
>
> Happily,
>
> Mark
>

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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-08-30 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Nothing really. It was just an idea to share files across the local 
network over wifi.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/08/2014 14:55, BobH. wrote:

You can get a dedicated rj45 lead, with a cross-over between two particular
wires;  but you can plug computers back-to-back if you fiddle with the right
settings on each pc. You have to enable a server mode and allowed protocols;
not done for too long, so can't be more specific.

But between PC's, what's wrong with a good old fashioned pen drive, memory
stick, or whatever else they're called now.

Rh.
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet


Cool! I wonder if ethernet would work for the scenario where one needs
to share files between mac and PC using a PC laptop or desktop and not
say via Bootcamp or Fusion on the Mac. Over wifi it seems unreliable to
say the least.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/08/2014 08:52, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring
technology
that got us to where we are today.

With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.

However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS
drive
to one of my computers.  Slowly but surely I am removing all data from NAS
for reasons described in prior threads.

So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
hours.

Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a Thunderbolt
to
Ethernet adaptor.

Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in less
than 35 minutes.

So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
strong.

Happily,

Mark





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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-08-31 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Quite.  This should go some way to explaining why every device on my network 
that can be connected using Ethernet, is connected using Ethernet; in practice 
this means only the iOS devices are not.  I had to get a hole drilled through 
the walls, feed cat5e cable through, and installed gigabit switches at either 
end.

Because Wi-Fi just doesn't cut it. Even when it's 802.11AC. :)

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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-09-03 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Odd, whatever works over ethernet should work over wifi, albeit more slowly.

Most Macs can do Gigabit ethernet which means they can transfer up to 
100MB/second. Even a perfect connection on the latest 802.11N wifi peaks 
at 300Megabit (.3 Gigabit). I have my laptop and an old Mac tower 
hardwired to a GB hub with TimeMachine backups going to a drive on the 
tower. The thing easily hits 40-50MB/s transfer rates and I suspect the 
limiting factor is the slow low-power drive in the laptop.


For a decade or so Macs had built-in automatic crossover on the ethernet 
port. If you're not familiar, imagine you had two phones dialed up to 
two people. If you wanted those two people to talk to each other you 
could just push the handsets together but they would be ear to ear and 
mic to mic. That wouldn't work. You would need to flip one over so the 
ear is to the mic on the opposite phone. That's what a crossover cable 
in the Ethernet world does and, since you're on a Mac, it just does that 
for you. So you can always just plug two machines Ethernet connections 
together to set up an ad-hoc private fast network for flinging files and 
the like. The Mac also is smart enough to self-assign an address when it 
can't get one from a router, which is the case when you're direct 
connecting two machines. So you basically plug the machines together 
with some Cat5 cable, turn on file sharing and go.


CB

On 8/30/14, 7:09 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Cool! I wonder if ethernet would work for the scenario where one needs 
to share files between mac and PC using a PC laptop or desktop and not 
say via Bootcamp or Fusion on the Mac. Over wifi it seems unreliable 
to say the least.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/08/2014 08:52, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring 
technology

that got us to where we are today.

With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.

However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS 
drive
to one of my computers. Slowly but surely I am removing all data from 
NAS

for reasons described in prior threads.

So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
hours.

Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a 
Thunderbolt to

Ethernet adaptor.

Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in 
less

than 35 minutes.

So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
strong.

Happily,

Mark





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