RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-07 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mark,

 Glad you saw it as the joke it was meant as.

I can't wait to hear your end review of th ex once your finished with it.

 Yeah I so wish we had apple stores here.

 Good luck with it and hope your having a lot of fun.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 3:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Hello Simon,

Big Smile.

I completely understand.  

If it's any consolation, please know that I only have use of this iPHone X for 
one more day, only, as it is a loaner unit.  (smile)

You're right about one thing, though, sometimes it really is best to go to an 
Apple Store and try your luck.

I have a friend who both orders his new devices on-line and goes to the store.  
If he gets the unit at the store, then he simply cancels his online order.  Now 
that's dedication to a mission, eh?  (big smile)

Hang in there.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 12:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Mark,

 I'll say this now,

 I no longer think you’re a nice guy!

I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
units to fill all preorder requests 

 I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, 
Beware

Hello All,

Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.

I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
exactly how to position the front-facing camera.

Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
and off, countless times during the day.  

On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
was located in the bottom center of the phone.  

However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
of the device.  

I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, really 
a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  

Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am having 
to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in a 
slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
finger on my left hand.  

I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.

In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am leaning 
towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the triple-click 
button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is currently the case 
on iPHone X.

If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
grateful.  

What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  

Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)

Mark


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RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Simon,

Big Smile.

I completely understand.  

If it's any consolation, please know that I only have use of this iPHone X for 
one more day, only, as it is a loaner unit.  (smile)

You're right about one thing, though, sometimes it really is best to go to an 
Apple Store and try your luck.

I have a friend who both orders his new devices on-line and goes to the store.  
If he gets the unit at the store, then he simply cancels his online order.  Now 
that's dedication to a mission, eh?  (big smile)

Hang in there.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 12:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Mark,

 I'll say this now,

 I no longer think you’re a nice guy!

I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
units to fill all preorder requests 

 I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, 
Beware

Hello All,

Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.

I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
exactly how to position the front-facing camera.

Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
and off, countless times during the day.  

On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
was located in the bottom center of the phone.  

However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
of the device.  

I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, really 
a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  

Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am having 
to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in a 
slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
finger on my left hand.  

I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.

In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am leaning 
towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the triple-click 
button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is currently the case 
on iPHone X.

If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
grateful.  

What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  

Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)

Mark


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Re: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-06 Thread Phil Halton


I don’t know why you need a hardware button for turning invert colors on and 
off. I do this quite regularly using Siri. I simply say invert colors on, or 
invert colors off, and Siri executes the setting change. Sent from my IPhone


> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I hope to have my I phone X on the 24th.  I normally hold an I phone in my 
> left hand and control the I phone with my right.  I don't know when that will 
> be the same when I get my I phone.
> 
> I am really looking forward to no Touch ID as I use to use windows mobile HTC 
> and that didn't have a home button.  I had to get use to a home button and 
> thought it was a waste of space.  So I am unusual.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 08:13, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I'll say this now,
>> 
>> I no longer think you’re a nice guy!
>> 
>> I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
>> units to fill all preorder requests 
>> 
>> I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
>> Users, Beware
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.
>> 
>> I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
>> gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a 
>> breeze to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to 
>> see exactly how to position the front-facing camera.
>> 
>> Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature 
>> on and off, countless times during the day.  
>> 
>> On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
>> was located in the bottom center of the phone.  
>> 
>> However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right 
>> side of the device.  
>> 
>> I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, 
>> really a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  
>> 
>> Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am 
>> having to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in 
>> a slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
>> finger on my left hand.  
>> 
>> I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach 
>> the button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.
>> 
>> In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need 
>> more time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am 
>> leaning towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the 
>> triple-click button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is 
>> currently the case on iPHone X.
>> 
>> If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
>> learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
>> grateful.  
>> 
>> What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
>> manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
>> example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the 
>> user could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  
>> 
>> Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I hope to have my I phone X on the 24th.  I normally hold an I phone in my left 
hand and control the I phone with my right.  I don't know when that will be the 
same when I get my I phone.

I am really looking forward to no Touch ID as I use to use windows mobile HTC 
and that didn't have a home button.  I had to get use to a home button and 
thought it was a waste of space.  So I am unusual.

Kawal.

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 08:13, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I'll say this now,
> 
> I no longer think you’re a nice guy!
> 
> I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
> units to fill all preorder requests 
> 
> I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
> Users, Beware
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.
> 
> I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
> gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
> to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
> exactly how to position the front-facing camera.
> 
> Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
> and off, countless times during the day.  
> 
> On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
> was located in the bottom center of the phone.  
> 
> However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
> of the device.  
> 
> I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, 
> really a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  
> 
> Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am 
> having to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in 
> a slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
> finger on my left hand.  
> 
> I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
> button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.
> 
> In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
> time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am 
> leaning towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the 
> triple-click button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is 
> currently the case on iPHone X.
> 
> If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
> learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
> grateful.  
> 
> What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
> manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
> example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
> could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  
> 
> Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
Mark,

 I'll say this now,

 I no longer think you’re a nice guy!

I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
units to fill all preorder requests 

 I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, 
Beware

Hello All,

Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.

I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
exactly how to position the front-facing camera.

Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
and off, countless times during the day.  

On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
was located in the bottom center of the phone.  

However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
of the device.  

I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, really 
a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  

Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am having 
to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in a 
slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
finger on my left hand.  

I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.

In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am leaning 
towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the triple-click 
button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is currently the case 
on iPHone X.

If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
grateful.  

What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  

Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)

Mark


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RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-05 Thread M. Taylor
Hello David,

I wouldn't call my discomfort with iPhone X a problem, exactly.  I think it 
comes down to, as with many things in life, a matter of personal preference.

My previous post, more than anything else, was to express my surprise at the 
realization of just how many times I use Invert colors and how moving the 
control to the right side of the device, for me anyway, may prove to be an 
unnecessary adjustment given that I have the option of purchasing an iPhone 8 
Plus, complete with a Home button (smile).

Before obtaining an iPhone X, I was so focused on the VoiceOver gestures and 
Face ID that I neglected to consider what, for me anyway, is a crucial 
accessability feature of iOS, said feature being Invert Colors via a hardware 
button.

I am delighted that you like iPhone X.

Mark  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 8:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Hi Mark,

I am somewhat confused about your problem. I too am left-handed. I find the 
iPhone 10 to be easier for triple-tapping the power button. Holding the iPhone 
X in my left hand, with my thumb just below the volume buttons, my left index 
finger lands on the power button. If I place my index finger on the top edge 
near the right corner, my left middle finger lands on the power button. Thus, I 
am able to press, or multi-press, the power button with either finger on my 
left hand whilst holding the iPhone in the left hand..

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 10:08, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.
> 
> I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App 
> switcher gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face 
> ID was a breeze to set up, however, I would like to note that I have 
> enough vision to see exactly how to position the front-facing camera.
> 
> Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color 
> feature on and off, countless times during the day.
> 
> On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home 
> button was located in the bottom center of the phone.
> 
> However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the 
> right side of the device.
> 
> I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am 
> really, really a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)
> 
> Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I 
> am having to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the 
> phone in a slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button 
> with my middle finger on my left hand.
> 
> I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to 
> reach the button with my left hand were the device placed inside such 
> an accessory.
> 
> In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will 
> need more time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this 
> point, I am leaning towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but 
> that I prefer the triple-click button to be in a more neutral location 
> on the phone than is currently the case on iPHone X.
> 
> If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone 
> X and learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and 
> for this I am grateful.
> 
> What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
> manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  
> For example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side 
> and the user could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.
> 
> Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

2017-11-05 Thread David Chittenden
Hi Mark,

I am somewhat confused about your problem. I too am left-handed. I find the 
iPhone 10 to be easier for triple-tapping the power button. Holding the iPhone 
X in my left hand, with my thumb just below the volume buttons, my left index 
finger lands on the power button. If I place my index finger on the top edge 
near the right corner, my left middle finger lands on the power button. Thus, I 
am able to press, or multi-press, the power button with either finger on my 
left hand whilst holding the iPhone in the left hand..

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 10:08, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.
> 
> I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher
> gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a
> breeze to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to
> see exactly how to position the front-facing camera.
> 
> Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature
> on and off, countless times during the day.  
> 
> On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button
> was located in the bottom center of the phone.  
> 
> However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right
> side of the device.  
> 
> I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really,
> really a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  
> 
> Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am
> having to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in
> a slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle
> finger on my left hand.  
> 
> I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach
> the button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an
> accessory.
> 
> In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need
> more time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am
> leaning towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the
> triple-click button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is
> currently the case on iPHone X.
> 
> If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and
> learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am
> grateful.  
> 
> What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware
> manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For
> example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the
> user could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  
> 
> Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
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