RE: mouseovers and voiceover
Hi, you are sending out multi email to this list! I got at least two of these emails. Rather it is your fault or not there is more than one going out. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Roberts Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mouseovers and voiceover On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an hour later. I got your original message at least three times. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
I only got one copy of his message. On Dec 22, 2009, at 5:19 AM, Joe Plummer wrote: Hi, you are sending out multi email to this list! I got at least two of these emails. Rather it is your fault or not there is more than one going out. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Roberts Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mouseovers and voiceover On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an hour later. I got your original message at least three times. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Multiple messages received [was Re: mouseovers and voiceover]
Hi, I'm not sure what is going with the messaging, but I received 5 copies of Mike's original post, all at different times. However, when I checked the time of sending in the message header, they were all the same. Also, when I checked the secondary mail archives for this list, they only picked up a single copy of the original post. So something strange is going on with the multiple posting, but I don't think it was because Mike intentionally sent his message multiple times. I would have commented in a reply, but I couldn't suggest anything really helpful on his original topic. I'd imagine that he could turn mouse keys on to move the mouse cursor to places where mouse over shows up menu items but VoiceOver can't directly navigate to, but I can't do any checks for the examples he gave, since I don't have accounts at last.fm and facebook. Cheers, Esther Barry Hadder wrote: I only got one copy of his message. Joe Plummer wrote: Hi, you are sending out multi email to this list! I got at least two of these emails. Rather it is your fault or not there is more than one going out. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Roberts Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mouseovers and voiceover On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an hour later. I got your original message at least three times. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Multiple messages received [was Re: mouseovers and voiceover]
Correction: I received 10 copies of the original message -- but only 5 of them came in the first hour before Barry responded with a reply. You can use option-up arrow or option-down arrow to move to the previous or next message in the same thread in your mail messages table, even if you aren't organizing your mail to view by thread. I just used option-up arrow and counted the instances. This is decidedly bizarre, but explains why some people were sending annoyed responses to the list. The last 5 messages came up through nearly two and half hours from the original post, at intervals of 20-30 minutes. All had the same sending time. Cheers, Esther Esther wrote: Hi, I'm not sure what is going with the messaging, but I received 5 copies of Mike's original post, all at different times. However, when I checked the time of sending in the message header, they were all the same. Also, when I checked the secondary mail archives for this list, they only picked up a single copy of the original post. So something strange is going on with the multiple posting, but I don't think it was because Mike intentionally sent his message multiple times. I would have commented in a reply, but I couldn't suggest anything really helpful on his original topic. I'd imagine that he could turn mouse keys on to move the mouse cursor to places where mouse over shows up menu items but VoiceOver can't directly navigate to, but I can't do any checks for the examples he gave, since I don't have accounts at last.fm and facebook. Cheers, Esther Barry Hadder wrote: I only got one copy of his message. Joe Plummer wrote: Hi, you are sending out multi email to this list! I got at least two of these emails. Rather it is your fault or not there is more than one going out. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Roberts Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mouseovers and voiceover On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an hour later. I got your original message at least three times. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
Hi, For mouse-overs, all you have to do is move the vo cursor to the mouse over and move the mouse to the vo and restart vo. The problems you are having are most likely related to the web page in general. Unfortunately, there are just situations where cursor tracking just doesn't work. On Dec 21, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: Hi All, does anyone have any good tips for interacting with mouseovers in safari? Two examples I'm thinking of are: The new privacy settings in facebook where only the currently selected option gets keyboard focus. Also, at last.fm where you can highlight an artist in your library and the delete option appears. In both cases, it does not seem possible to move the VO cursor to the mouseover options. thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
I just noticed that you can't move vo to the mo. I still think that it is the page in general as mouse-overs usually work fine with the exception that restarting vo is necessary to read the new content. On Dec 21, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: Hi All, does anyone have any good tips for interacting with mouseovers in safari? Two examples I'm thinking of are: The new privacy settings in facebook where only the currently selected option gets keyboard focus. Also, at last.fm where you can highlight an artist in your library and the delete option appears. In both cases, it does not seem possible to move the VO cursor to the mouseover options. thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
Dude, Lay off! Multiple postings will not help your cause. This is more then five postings. People will get back to you with responses when they have one. pete On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: Hi All, does anyone have any good tips for interacting with mouseovers in safari? Two examples I'm thinking of are: The new privacy settings in facebook where only the currently selected option gets keyboard focus. Also, at last.fm where you can highlight an artist in your library and the delete option appears. In both cases, it does not seem possible to move the VO cursor to the mouseover options. thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an hour later. Thanks much for the o so constructive comment. Mike On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:28 PM, peter apgar wrote: Dude, Lay off! Multiple postings will not help your cause. This is more then five postings. People will get back to you with responses when they have one. pete On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: Hi All, does anyone have any good tips for interacting with mouseovers in safari? Two examples I'm thinking of are: The new privacy settings in facebook where only the currently selected option gets keyboard focus. Also, at last.fm where you can highlight an artist in your library and the delete option appears. In both cases, it does not seem possible to move the VO cursor to the mouseover options. thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
Ok, let's give this guy a break as he knows it's happening now. On Dec 21, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: I have no idea where you get the idea that I sent this more than once. I sent it exactly once and got a response an hour later. I got your original message at least three times. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
