Re: new mac user please help
Hello there welcome to the world of the mac. First you probably would want to go through the voiceover quick start to do that press control option command function f 8 to open it then use you're left and right arrows to move forward and back through the quick start guide. The quick start will get you started with how to use voiceover such as using it to interact with tables and other basic voiceover commands you will need to use the mac. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: new mac user please help
I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
Hello Zoe, To get rid of the conflict between new keyboard layout and Spotlight search, open System Preferences and go to the Keyboard pane. Select Shortcuts tab, 3 of 4, then navigate right to the Shortcuts categories table and interact with it. Navigate down to Spotlight. Stop interacting with that table and navigate right to the next one which will say Spotlight shortcuts table. Interact and uncheck the check box for Show Spotlight search field ⌘Space. Cheers, Anne On 26 Feb 2014, at 15:48, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I’m totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I’m at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I’m looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I’ve downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don’t think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can’t find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don’t want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I’m assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let’s start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: new mac user please help
Be aware that VO F8 twice will bring you to the list of VoiceOver keyboard commands. The commands are grouped in such a way that you can easily locate what you need when you need it. There are a potentially overwhelming number of VO commands to learn if you try to memorize them all at once, so you're better off learning the ones you need as you complete your daily tasks on the Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new mac user please help I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group
Re: new mac user please help
Dear Zoe, Welcome to the group. I, too, am a Greek speaker and I, too, chose to switch to Mac because of the many language Apple offers. I've learnt Greek, and in fact, I'm still continuing my classes with a tutor in Cyprus. Now to your questions. Isaac has already told you how to switch languages on the fly. I hope that this is working well for you now. The second point is more complex, and I will try to explain. My knowledge of this comes from the very many exchanges I've had over the years with the members of the group, so I owe it all to them. The reason why you call up spotlight search is that the shortcut key combination command+spacebar is assigned to spotlight. You need to disassociate this combination with spotlight and than assign it or activate it for the input source. It's a while since I have done it, so forgive me if I make an error. Someone else on the list may correct me on this. 1. Open system preferences by going to the dock with control+f3. You should here voiceover say dock. Once in the dock, you can type three first letters sys to land immediately on system preferences. Press enter. System preferences will open. You will be probably in the toolbar of system preferences where you have back forward buttons and search field. Stop interacting with the toolbar by pressing vo+shift+uparrow and vo + right arrow when you will here preferences pane. 2. Interact with preference pain and vo+right arrow to find the button keyboard or else start typing the word keyboard and you should land on this button. Press vo+spacebar on this button to open keyboard preferences. 3. In keyboard preferences you will have several tabs. As you vo+right arrow through the window, you will hear the word tab and highlighted. The highlighted tab is th the one which is currently active. 4. Find the tab which says shortcuts. Press vo+spacebar on it to highlighted. It will now read highlighted. Continue vo+right arrow to find two tables where you will need to make choices and perform actions. Remember to interact with a table you need to press vo+shift+down arrow and to stop interacting you press vo+shift+uparrow. Once you interact with the table you can vo+down or up arrow through the rows and vo+left or right arrow to examine each row. 5. Interact with the first table and find the category spotlight. Once you land on it, stop interacting with the table. The item spotlight will now be highlighted. Move vo+right to the next table of shortcuts. 6. Interact with the second table and uncheck the boxes next to the spotlight actions. 7. Stop interacting with the table and move back to the previous table of shortcut categories. Interact with it and find the category input source'. Stop interacting and move to the shortcuts table 8. Interact with shortcuts table and vo+down arrow until you find previous and next input source items. To the left of each item there's a checkbox. Check them and to the right of each item there should be a description of the shortcut key. This is the point where my memory fails me. I can't now remember whether I had assigned command+spacebar to the next input source myself or whether it was already assigned and I just needed to check the box next to the action item. I hope the latter is the case. Try this, and if it doesn't work, you will need to assign the shortcut combination. I hope it won't be necessary. I did however have to assign a new shortcut to Spotlight. This is maybe for later. Hope this helps, and if you have any more questions, please ask. Also, there's a very useful macvisionaries archive page whose url is: macvisionaries With best wishes Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new mac user please help
nope, its not VO f8, its VO + H On 26 Feb 2014, at 05:55 pm, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote: Be aware that VO F8 twice will bring you to the list of VoiceOver keyboard commands. The commands are grouped in such a way that you can easily locate what you need when you need it. There are a potentially overwhelming number of VO commands to learn if you try to memorize them all at once, so you're better off learning the ones you need as you complete your daily tasks on the Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new mac user please help I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I'm totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I'm at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I'm looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I've downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don't think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can't find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don't want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I'm assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let's start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: new mac user please help
What's that I was saying about learning commands? LOL thanks for the correction. I had been messing around and preferences and got those commands mixed up in my head. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, its not VO f8, its VO + H On 26 Feb 2014, at 05:55 pm, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote: Be aware that VO F8 twice will bring you to the list of VoiceOver keyboard commands. The commands are grouped in such a way that you can easily locate what you need when you need it. There are a potentially overwhelming number of VO commands to learn if you try to memorize them all at once, so you’re better off learning the ones you need as you complete your daily tasks on the Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new mac user please help I will try this option and let you all know how it works. Also you mentioned the quickstart voiceover tutorial and yes I did this and it has helped a little. Of course I have a lot of knew keyboard commands to memorize and it will take a while. Thank you for your help. Will try your recommendation soon. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of isaac Sent: February-26-14 9:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac user please help To switch voices press control option command left arrow and right arrow and use the up and arrows to to make ajustments. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Zoe Fiogkos fiog...@rogers.com wrote: Hi everyone, so I finally took the big dive and got my new iMac and of course coming from the world of windows I’m totally lost. However I am also excited to learn something new. I did purchase apple care and I also belong to this great list so these options should help, and even though I feel like I’m at the bottom of a huge mountain with the peak no where in sight I’m looking forward to climbing and exploring this new mountain. The first thing I did is the voiceover tutorial and that helped a little. My first questions that I need help with is as follows. One of the reasons I went with Mac is because apple offers voiceover in other languages and one of those languages is my native tongue. I’ve downloaded the voice that is assigned to my native tongue which is Greek. I have also added the keyboard input source of Greek, up until this point everything is okay. I figured out that to change the keyboard layout from Canadian English to Greek the hotkey is command spacebar, again great it works. Heres where the first problem comes in. when I open the notes from the doc and I start typing everything is okay, but when I press command spacebar to switch to the Greek voiceover says spot light search, it types in Greek but not in the body of the document and of course when I press enter it takes me to the internet. Can anyone help. I thought about trying it out on pages which is listed in the doc but I don’t think I have pages even though its listed in the doc. The second problem is I can’t find a hotkey for switching voices/languages with a hotkey. Does anyone know how I can do this using the keyboard? I don’t want to always want to half to open the voiceover utility or system preferences just to switch voices or languages, I’m assuming and hoping there is a hotkey for this action. Of course I have a thousand more questions but let’s start with these, and hopefully someone can help me with this before I move to something else. I would appreciate any help and advice. Thanks in advance, Your friendly neighbourhood lister and new Mac user, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
