Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Ricardo, I did use the classic view, and it was still clunky. I haven't had one busy in mail since I went back to Snow Leopard. My whole system was just clunky under Lion, and maybe it's because I just ran the update and didn't install it fresh and then import my stuff, I don't know. I run Windows 7 in a virtual machine under Fusion. Don't know if that made it more clunky. The whole machine just runs so much smoother under Snow Leopard, and I didn't see any glaring feature of Lion that makes we want to go running back. *smiles* On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Why didn't you just go back to Mails classic layout then? > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Kimberly thurman > wrote: > >> I updated to Lion a few weeks ago. Mail was awful under Lion, which is why >> I was not terribly upset this weekend when my Macbook Pro crashed completely >> for the first time ever in the 27 months I've owned it. I had to erase and >> reinstall from the Snow Leopard disk that came with the Macbook, and I >> hadn't run a Time Machine backup since before I installed Lion, so I just >> restored that backup. My Macbook runs so much better over all with Snow >> Leopard than it did in the few weeks I had Lion, and mail works flawlessly. >> None of that busy stuff. I just think mail under Lion is plain clunky. >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone >>> mail, why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Hey Kawal, > > I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the > problem you describe at all. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever >> you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail >> address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the >> message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/grou
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I don't know if this will help but I fI find it easier to use the VO J command whitch takes me to the mail list then to the message body and so on. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:25 AM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Ricardo, > > Do you remember how to do this? I remember doing it when I first got my Mac, > and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a circle around a > bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It took me forever to actually do it. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the >> message to view it in a different window. This will then mark the message >> as read. Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >>> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail >>> is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a >>> Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint >>> I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem >>> with VO not reading the read/unread status. >>> >>> I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO >>> however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The >>> adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the >>> status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO >>> to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being >>> opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation >>> and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off >>> and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this >>> way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would >>> be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the >>> VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. >>> >>> I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil >>> one of those "new guys." >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Funny, I have not noticed this myself. > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever >> you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail >> address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the >> message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> mac
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
No, I just tried that and it didn't work. And I did check to make sure it was under the mouse cursor and trackpad commander was off. Cheers, Donna On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > lol, > > Its not that bad. There is a vertical splitter that separates the messages > column group which contains the messages table and the message content area > which is the preview pane. Just make sure your mouse cursor is focused on > this vertical splitter and double click with your trackpad or mouse. If > using a trackpad, make sure VO's trackpad commander is off. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > >> Ricardo, >> >> Do you remember how to do this? I remember doing it when I first got my >> Mac, and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a circle >> around a bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It took me forever to >> actually do it. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the >>> message to view it in a different window. This will then mark the message >>> as read. Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem with VO not reading the read/unread status. I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil one of those "new guys." On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: > It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the > issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not > reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I > didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Funny, I have not noticed this myself. >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hello All. >>> >>> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever >>> you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail >>> address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read >>> the message. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
To be honest I have switched back to the classic layout. Only because I like being able to interact with the columns so I can just whizz up and down the subjects. Makes it much quicker when you get so much mail to red. I do find this version of mail more buggy and less responsive than the Snow Leopard version though, so let's hope that get's addressed in time. It is a million times better than Windows Live Mail or Outlook Express :) On 28 Feb 2012, at 13:19, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Why didn't you just go back to Mails classic layout then? > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Kimberly thurman > wrote: > >> I updated to Lion a few weeks ago. Mail was awful under Lion, which is why >> I was not terribly upset this weekend when my Macbook Pro crashed completely >> for the first time ever in the 27 months I've owned it. I had to erase and >> reinstall from the Snow Leopard disk that came with the Macbook, and I >> hadn't run a Time Machine backup since before I installed Lion, so I just >> restored that backup. My Macbook runs so much better over all with Snow >> Leopard than it did in the few weeks I had Lion, and mail works flawlessly. >> None of that busy stuff. I just think mail under Lion is plain clunky. >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone >>> mail, why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Hey Kawal, > > I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the > problem you describe at all. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever >> you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail >> address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the >> message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
lol, Its not that bad. There is a vertical splitter that separates the messages column group which contains the messages table and the message content area which is the preview pane. Just make sure your mouse cursor is focused on this vertical splitter and double click with your trackpad or mouse. If using a trackpad, make sure VO's trackpad commander is off. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Ricardo, > > Do you remember how to do this? I remember doing it when I first got my Mac, > and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a circle around a > bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It took me forever to actually do it. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the >> message to view it in a different window. This will then mark the message >> as read. Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >>> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail >>> is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a >>> Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint >>> I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem >>> with VO not reading the read/unread status. >>> >>> I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO >>> however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The >>> adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the >>> status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO >>> to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being >>> opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation >>> and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off >>> and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this >>> way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would >>> be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the >>> VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. >>> >>> I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil >>> one of those "new guys." >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Funny, I have not noticed this myself. > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever >> you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail >> address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the >> message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Ricardo, Do you remember how to do this? I remember doing it when I first got my Mac, and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a circle around a bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It took me forever to actually do it. Cheers, Donna On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the message > to view it in a different window. This will then mark the message as read. > Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail >> is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a >> Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint >> I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem >> with VO not reading the read/unread status. >> >> I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO >> however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The >> adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the >> status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO >> to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being >> opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation >> and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off >> and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this >> way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would >> be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the >> VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. >> >> I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil >> one of those "new guys." >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>> It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the >>> issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading >>> the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it >>> before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Funny, I have not noticed this myself. On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address > before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macv
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Hi, you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the message to view it in a different window. This will then mark the message as read. Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail > is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a > Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint > I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem > with VO not reading the read/unread status. > > I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO > however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The > adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the > status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO > to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being > opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation > and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off > and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this > way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would > be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the > VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. > > I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil > one of those "new guys." > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the >> issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading >> the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it >> before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Funny, I have not noticed this myself. >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Why didn't you just go back to Mails classic layout then? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I updated to Lion a few weeks ago. Mail was awful under Lion, which is why I > was not terribly upset this weekend when my Macbook Pro crashed completely > for the first time ever in the 27 months I've owned it. I had to erase and > reinstall from the Snow Leopard disk that came with the Macbook, and I hadn't > run a Time Machine backup since before I installed Lion, so I just restored > that backup. My Macbook runs so much better over all with Snow Leopard than > it did in the few weeks I had Lion, and mail works flawlessly. None of that > busy stuff. I just think mail under Lion is plain clunky. > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone >> mail, why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth >>> keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've >>> replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: >>> Hey Kawal, I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem you describe at all. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address > before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
IDK, It might not be bugs but, I see some inaccessibility in IOS mail. For example, voiceover doesn't read the preview of the message like you can do on the Mac. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone mail, > why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth >> keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've >> replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: >> >>> Hey Kawal, >>> >>> I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the >>> problem you describe at all. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
So what? Now my air is going to start expecting time off and health benefits? lol Cheers, Donna On Feb 28, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Because it was the weekend and your air was complaining. > > Kawal. > > On 28 Feb 2012, at 12:39 AM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > >> It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the >> issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading >> the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it >> before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Funny, I have not noticed this myself. >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Because it was the weekend and your air was complaining. Kawal. On 28 Feb 2012, at 12:39 AM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the > issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading > the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it > before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Funny, I have not noticed this myself. >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hello All. >>> >>> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >>> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address >>> before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem with VO not reading the read/unread status. I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil one of those "new guys." On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: > It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the > issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading > the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it > before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > Funny, I have not noticed this myself. > > > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > > >> Hello All. > >> > >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > >> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address > >> before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > >> > >> Kawal. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I updated to Lion a few weeks ago. Mail was awful under Lion, which is why I was not terribly upset this weekend when my Macbook Pro crashed completely for the first time ever in the 27 months I've owned it. I had to erase and reinstall from the Snow Leopard disk that came with the Macbook, and I hadn't run a Time Machine backup since before I installed Lion, so I just restored that backup. My Macbook runs so much better over all with Snow Leopard than it did in the few weeks I had Lion, and mail works flawlessly. None of that busy stuff. I just think mail under Lion is plain clunky. On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: > I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone mail, > why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth >> keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've >> replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: >> >>> Hey Kawal, >>> >>> I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the >>> problem you describe at all. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Funny, I have not noticed this myself. > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before >> the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone mail, why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth > keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've > replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? > > Kawal. > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > >> Hey Kawal, >> >> I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem >> you describe at all. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hello All. >>> >>> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >>> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address >>> before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Funny, I have not noticed this myself. On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before > the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Hey Kawal, > > I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem > you describe at all. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before >> the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Hey Kawal, I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem you describe at all. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before > the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
