Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Jonathan Cohn]

If they are providing this as an Xcode sample, then there is a good chance that 
any developer could incorporate it into their IOS tools. 

I still have my V1 Apple AirPort Station that looks like a flying saucer. It 
was very simple, a phone line connector a Ethernet connector and a power jack.  
   Yes, it had a 56K modem built in. I bought it with a Tangerine Orange Apple 
laptop that you had to pay extra to get a wireless card in.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Nov 22, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> You can enable apt-x on macOS with the bluetooth explorer tool.  It is on the 
> Apple developer site as part of the io tools for xcode package so you migh 
> need to create a free acount to download it.  And no you don't need xcode to 
> use it.
> I don't know of a way to enable it on IOS though, but I doubt anyones is 
> storing lossless audio on their iDevices yet..
> 
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 15:37, Anders Holmberg  <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, hopefully Apple will put aptx bluetooth to coming devices.
> Even though i don’t hear the difference some say they do.
> For those who don’t know what aptx bluetooth is, its bluetooth with no 
> compression.
> /A
>> 22 nov. 2016 kl. 04:12 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland > <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> I could see Airplay going away. I mean, it's not universal. It's generally 
>> not cross platform. Look at what Sonos is doing by simply using standard 
>> wifi. Not only that, but Bluetooth is really becoming more the thing now.
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>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Barry Hadder <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
>>> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
>>> 
>>> I'm still using an old 4th gen and it still works like a charm.
>>> I never had any other brand last this long.  Then there's the question of 
>>> the future of air play.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 16:57, Scott Granados >> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have 
>>> job security.;)
>>> 
>>> As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.
>>> 
>>> Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was 
>>> hoping for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten >>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple 
>>>> routers. I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of 
>>>> those on a Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake 
>>>> when it comes to setting up routers.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder >>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
>>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> bhad...@gmail.com <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Barry Hadder]

You can enable apt-x on macOS with the bluetooth explorer tool.  It is on the 
Apple developer site as part of the io tools for xcode package so you migh need 
to create a free acount to download it.  And no you don't need xcode to use it.
I don't know of a way to enable it on IOS though, but I doubt anyones is 
storing lossless audio on their iDevices yet..

On Nov 22, 2016, at 15:37, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Well, hopefully Apple will put aptx bluetooth to coming devices.
Even though i don’t hear the difference some say they do.
For those who don’t know what aptx bluetooth is, its bluetooth with no 
compression.
/A
> 22 nov. 2016 kl. 04:12 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland  <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>>:
> 
> I could see Airplay going away. I mean, it's not universal. It's generally 
> not cross platform. Look at what Sonos is doing by simply using standard 
> wifi. Not only that, but Bluetooth is really becoming more the thing now.
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Barry Hadder <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
>> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
>> 
>> I'm still using an old 4th gen and it still works like a charm.
>> I never had any other brand last this long.  Then there's the question of 
>> the future of air play.
>> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 16:57, Scott Granados > <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have 
>> job security.;)
>> 
>> As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.
>> 
>> Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was 
>> hoping for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten >> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
>>> I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
>>> Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes 
>>> to setting up routers.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/>
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, hopefully Apple will put aptx bluetooth to coming devices.
Even though i don’t hear the difference some say they do.
For those who don’t know what aptx bluetooth is, its bluetooth with no 
compression.
/A
> 22 nov. 2016 kl. 04:12 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :
> 
> I could see Airplay going away. I mean, it's not universal. It's generally 
> not cross platform. Look at what Sonos is doing by simply using standard 
> wifi. Not only that, but Bluetooth is really becoming more the thing now.
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Barry Hadder <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
>> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
>> 
>> I'm still using an old 4th gen and it still works like a charm.
>> I never had any other brand last this long.  Then there's the question of 
>> the future of air play.
>> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 16:57, Scott Granados > <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have 
>> job security.;)
>> 
>> As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.
>> 
>> Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was 
>> hoping for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten >> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
>>> I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
>>> Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes 
>>> to setting up routers.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/>
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Kliphton Miller]

I have never had an issue setting up apple time capsules for friends and 
family.  It is actually just as easy as on the mac side.
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Just my two centts worth, I'm sure this wasn't a snap decision.  I don't 
> think apple makes many of those no matter who the CEO is.
> 
> Apple routers aren't just expensive, they're out of site expensive.  The 
> hardware is nice, but nothing you can't get in a router for 1/3 of the price. 
>  Similarly, hard drives capable of time machine can be had for a fraction of 
> the price of the extreme.
> 
> In terms of software, you are OK as long as you only want to set up apple 
> devices.  You're in trouble if you need to set up airport using windows for 
> any reason, or if you want to connect non bonjour printers or other 
> unsupported perripherals.  Non-proprietary, standards capable routers from 
> linksys, d-link, and TP-Link do a much more universally accessible, less 
> proprietary job for between 30 and 50 bucks a shot. 
> 
> I loved my mac and my IPod, but I'm not such an apple fanboy that I'm willing 
> to waste money.  Some of apple's stuff is just not worth it.  The usb 
> super-multi drive is one such, also the bluetooth keyboard, and the routers. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik
> 
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> On November 22, 2016 8:20:09 AM Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
>> I wonder why they suddenly decided to do that.  I thought those were one of 
>> their biggest sellers.
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
>>> I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
>>> Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes 
>>> to setting up routers.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I think that this is really bad news.
 
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

Look at the Nighthawk series especially the X10-7200AD model.  Stay away from 
links’s, they don’t forward very well, TP Link also has a few good models one 
that supports AD networking. Not much supports AD yet so that’s a gamble and 
that speed is only good in room but the rest of the protocols are supported 
very well on these higher end models which is why I suggest them.  I doubt you 
have any AD clients but you may in the next year or so.


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Scott, what net gear router would you recommend for the average home user, 
> who wants good range, and a secure network that has an accessible UI?
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:23 PM, Scott Granados > <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Everything is going to go to a WiFi standard I suspect.  With AD coming out 
>> for high speed in room access and AC becoming pervasive it makes sense to 
>> handle everything natively over WiFi.  You can also prioritize each class of 
>> data nicely.
>> 
>> Bluetooth won’t be the spec, it’s to short range.  Only 10 meters or so and 
>> 15 - 20 meters at most depending on the class of transmitter used.  WiFi has 
>> you out to 100+ meters even more in some conditions.  I’ve done 30 miles 
>> point to point with 5 GHZ WiFi outside on towers.
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Mary Otten >> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the airport express works extremely well for this, and I don't know 
>>> any other way to airplay enable an older system.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Brent Harding >> <mailto:br...@hostany.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think it was the Airport Express that Sonos and others recommended to 
>>>> use to bring Airplay audio into other setups by way of that line out jack 
>>>> it had. I don't know that other routers have that.
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -
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>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
>>>> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
>>>> 
>>>> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
>>>> airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I 
>>>> personally use a different router and use the airports as access points 
>>>> but I was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head 
>>>> in another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which 
>>>> have much much more advanced WiFi features now.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> They were good products though.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Barry Hadder >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
>>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

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On 11/22/2016 5:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, however, having seen Jessica's
message, I cannot help but asking exactly the same thing.
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*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:19 AM
*Subject:* Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless
    Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

I wonder why they suddenly decided to do that.  I thought those were
one of their biggest sellers.

On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple
routers. I know they charge more than some others. But setting up
one of those on a Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about
pieces of cake when it comes to setting up routers.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I think that this is really bad news.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/



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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

Jessica, the thing is the Apple routers were good but they aren’t great and for 
the money they should be great.  The part of them that is great is the access 
point side.  They have held up well on the wireless side but I haven’t used 
their routing functions for years now.  They don’t have the forwarding rate to 
support the modern high end connections, they don’t have the advanced routing 
features and while they can add a drive for time machine I can do that for a 
fraction of the price with most routers today or with network attached storage 
like the Seagate MyCloud boxes.  They just aren’t a compelling product any 
more.  They could continue innovating and updating the router but why?  Cisco, 
Dlink, TPLink, Netgear, Buffalo, and on and on are all doing this better and 
cheaper along with the fact most network providers include a router with their 
service now.  I agree with Eric, it just ain’t worth the scratch Apple wants 
you to spend.  Put the engineers and development effort in to better WiFi 
clients in the laptops and phones etc and let the router guys do what they do.



> On Nov 22, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> I wonder why they suddenly decided to do that.  I thought those were one of 
> their biggest sellers.
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
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>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
>> I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
>> Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
>> setting up routers.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder > > wrote:
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>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>> 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Erik Burggraaf]

Just my two centts worth, I'm sure this wasn't a snap decision.  I don't 
think apple makes many of those no matter who the CEO is.


Apple routers aren't just expensive, they're out of site expensive.  The 
hardware is nice, but nothing you can't get in a router for 1/3 of the 
price.  Similarly, hard drives capable of time machine can be had for a 
fraction of the price of the extreme.


In terms of software, you are OK as long as you only want to set up apple 
devices.  You're in trouble if you need to set up airport using windows for 
any reason, or if you want to connect non bonjour printers or other 
unsupported perripherals.  Non-proprietary, standards capable routers from 
linksys, d-link, and TP-Link do a much more universally accessible, less 
proprietary job for between 30 and 50 bucks a shot.


I loved my mac and my IPod, but I'm not such an apple fanboy that I'm 
willing to waste money.  Some of apple's stuff is just not worth it.  The 
usb super-multi drive is one such, also the bluetooth keyboard, and the 
routers.


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On November 22, 2016 8:20:09 AM Jessica Moss  wrote:

I wonder why they suddenly decided to do that.  I thought those were one of 
their biggest sellers.

On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes 
to setting up routers.

Mary


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I think that this is really bad news.

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 




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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, however, having seen Jessica's 
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  I wonder why they suddenly decided to do that.  I thought those were one of 
their biggest sellers.

On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a Mac 
was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
setting up routers.
Mary



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  I think that this is really bad news.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/




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[Jessica Moss]

I wonder why they suddenly decided to do that.  I thought those were one of 
their biggest sellers.
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. I 
> know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a Mac 
> was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
> setting up routers.
> Mary
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> I think that this is really bad news.
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>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Terje Strømberg]

The Time Machine app - software will still be available later osx, or what do 
you think?

Take care


> 22. nov. 2016 kl. 05.24 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> The Netgear stuff is very doable.  They make some highly rated routers now.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> How accessible are those net gear routers?  I loved the accessibility of the 
>> time capsule, hope they release some firnwhear updates at least.
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
>>> airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I 
>>> personally use a different router and use the airports as access points but 
>>> I was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in 
>>> another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have 
>>> much much more advanced WiFi features now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They were good products though.
>>> 
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 I think that this is really bad news.
 
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/
 
 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Kliphton Miller]

Scott, what net gear router would you recommend for the average home user, who 
wants good range, and a secure network that has an accessible UI?
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:23 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Everything is going to go to a WiFi standard I suspect.  With AD coming out 
> for high speed in room access and AC becoming pervasive it makes sense to 
> handle everything natively over WiFi.  You can also prioritize each class of 
> data nicely.
> 
> Bluetooth won’t be the spec, it’s to short range.  Only 10 meters or so and 
> 15 - 20 meters at most depending on the class of transmitter used.  WiFi has 
> you out to 100+ meters even more in some conditions.  I’ve done 30 miles 
> point to point with 5 GHZ WiFi outside on towers.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Mary Otten > <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, the airport express works extremely well for this, and I don't know any 
>> other way to airplay enable an older system.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Brent Harding > <mailto:br...@hostany.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it was the Airport Express that Sonos and others recommended to use 
>>> to bring Airplay audio into other setups by way of that line out jack it 
>>> had. I don't know that other routers have that.
>>>  
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>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
>>> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
>>> 
>>> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
>>> airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I 
>>> personally use a different router and use the airports as access points but 
>>> I was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in 
>>> another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have 
>>> much much more advanced WiFi features now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They were good products though.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Barry Hadder >>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/>
>>>> 
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[Scott Granados]

Everything is going to go to a WiFi standard I suspect.  With AD coming out for 
high speed in room access and AC becoming pervasive it makes sense to handle 
everything natively over WiFi.  You can also prioritize each class of data 
nicely.

Bluetooth won’t be the spec, it’s to short range.  Only 10 meters or so and 15 
- 20 meters at most depending on the class of transmitter used.  WiFi has you 
out to 100+ meters even more in some conditions.  I’ve done 30 miles point to 
point with 5 GHZ WiFi outside on towers.

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the airport express works extremely well for this, and I don't know any 
> other way to airplay enable an older system.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Brent Harding  <mailto:br...@hostany.net>> wrote:
> 
>> I think it was the Airport Express that Sonos and others recommended to use 
>> to bring Airplay audio into other setups by way of that line out jack it 
>> had. I don't know that other routers have that.
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Scott Granados <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
>> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
>> 
>> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
>> airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I 
>> personally use a different router and use the airports as access points but 
>> I was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in 
>> another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have 
>> much much more advanced WiFi features now.
>> 
>> 
>> They were good products though.
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>> 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

The Netgear stuff is very doable.  They make some highly rated routers now.

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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> time capsule, hope they release some firnwhear updates at least.
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
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>> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
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>> I was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in 
>> another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have 
>> much much more advanced WiFi features now.
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>> 
>> They were good products though.
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On 11/21/2016 7:38 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:

How accessible are those net gear routers?  I loved the accessibility of
the time capsule, hope they release some firnwhear updates at least.

On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Scott Granados mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like
the airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.
 I personally use a different router and use the airports as access
points but I was just starting to think it was getting long in the
tooth and head in another direction like a new TP Link AD router or
Netgear model which have much much more advanced WiFi features now.


They were good products though.


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I think that this is really bad news.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/



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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

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I used a Netgear back in the days, and found it to be quite doable. Unless 
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Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors


  How accessible are those net gear routers?  I loved the accessibility of the 
time capsule, hope they release some firnwhear updates at least.

On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Scott Granados  
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Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I personally 
use a different router and use the airports as access points but I was just 
starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in another 
direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have much much 
more advanced WiFi features now.




They were good products though.


  On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:


  I think that this is really bad news.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/




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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

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How accessible are those net gear routers?  I loved the accessibility of the 
time capsule, hope they release some firnwhear updates at least.
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
> airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I 
> personally use a different router and use the airports as access points but I 
> was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in 
> another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have 
> much much more advanced WiFi features now.
> 
> 
> They were good products though.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Barry Hadder > > wrote:
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>> I think that this is really bad news.
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>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Aa, yeah! True! I totally forgot about the line in jack.

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  I think it was the Airport Express that Sonos and others recommended to use 
to bring Airplay audio into other setups by way of that line out jack it had. I 
don't know that other routers have that.

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Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I personally 
use a different router and use the airports as access points but I was just 
starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in another 
direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have much much 
more advanced WiFi features now. 




They were good products though.


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  I think that this is really bad news. 


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/




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I could see Airplay going away. I mean, it's not universal. It's generally not 
cross platform. Look at what Sonos is doing by simply using standard wifi. Not 
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  I'm still using an old 4th gen and it still works like a charm.
  I never had any other brand last this long.  Then there's the question of the 
future of air play.


  On Nov 21, 2016, at 16:57, Scott Granados  wrote:


  Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have job 
security.;)


  As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.


  Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was hoping 
for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.


On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a Mac 
was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
setting up routers.
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  I think that this is really bad news.


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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Mary Otten]

Yes, the airport express works extremely well for this, and I don't know any 
other way to airplay enable an older system.
Mary


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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
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> I think it was the Airport Express that Sonos and others recommended to use 
> to bring Airplay audio into other setups by way of that line out jack it had. 
> I don't know that other routers have that.
>  
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
> Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors
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> Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
> airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I 
> personally use a different router and use the airports as access points but I 
> was just starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in 
> another direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have 
> much much more advanced WiFi features now.
> 
> 
> They were good products though.
> 
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>> I think that this is really bad news.
>> 
>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Brent Harding]

I think it was the Airport Express that Sonos and others recommended to use to 
bring Airplay audio into other setups by way of that line out jack it had. I 
don't know that other routers have that.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as 
Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors


  Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I personally 
use a different router and use the airports as access points but I was just 
starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in another 
direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have much much 
more advanced WiFi features now.




  They were good products though.


On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:


I think that this is really bad news.


  http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/




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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[E.T.]

   If this is what is called "sin" then count me in. We can always drag 
out the calorie counters on Black Friday. That soon? Black Friday 2017, 
that soon enough? Now where are those cheesecakes


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On 11/21/2016 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh definitely, for you Scott you would want the double crème brûlée
stuff baklava whatever the most possible complicated thing could be. And
you're welcome to it. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Scott Granados mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I
have job security.;)

As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.

Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was
hoping for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.


On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple
routers. I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one
of those on a Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of
cake when it comes to setting up routers.
Mary


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I think that this is really bad news.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/



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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

Hahaha in all seriousness I’m completely down for very easy to use home models 
and for that matter with very good easy to set up security options.  I’d much 
rather see a more secure home and that made as simple as possible for the end 
user.  People like my mother who shouldn’t have to depend on the free tech 
support from her son to set up her home network.

There’s plenty of room for the double cream filled option up stream in the 
provider networks.  Sometimes, that simplicity down stream comes with more 
complexity up stream.  Until google builds a network engineering robot I should 
be fine.  (Although I’m sure that’s in the works)

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Oh definitely, for you Scott you would want the double crème brûlée stuff 
> baklava whatever the most possible complicated thing could be. And you're 
> welcome to it. Smile.
> Mary
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>> Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have 
>> job security.;)
>> 
>> As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.
>> 
>> Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was 
>> hoping for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
>>> I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
>>> Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes 
>>> to setting up routers.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I think that this is really bad news.
 
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/ 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Karen Lewellen]

I have to agree, so flexible across machines too.  One of the rich 
interchangeable things making Apple so reliable.

Sad this is taking place to be sure.


On Mon, 21 Nov 2016, Mary Otten wrote:


Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. I 
know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a Mac 
was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
setting up routers.
Mary


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On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

I think that this is really bad news.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/



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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Mary Otten]

Oh definitely, for you Scott you would want the double crème brûlée stuff 
baklava whatever the most possible complicated thing could be. And you're 
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Mary


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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have job 
> security.;)
> 
> As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.
> 
> Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was hoping 
> for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. 
>> I know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a 
>> Mac was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
>> setting up routers.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that this is really bad news.
>>> 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/
>>> 
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Barry Hadder]

I'm still using an old 4th gen and it still works like a charm.
I never had any other brand last this long.  Then there's the question of the 
future of air play.

On Nov 21, 2016, at 16:57, Scott Granados  wrote:

Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have job 
security.;)

As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.

Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was hoping 
for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

[Scott Granados]

Put me down in the complicated puff pastry category for routers so I have job 
security.;)

As long as the major backbone routers stay complicated well I’ll be good.

Seriously though, the airport was one of the easiest to set up.  I was hoping 
for a nice MIMO TRI band option but I guess that’s not to be.

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a Mac 
> was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
> setting up routers.
> Mary
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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

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Well I'm really sorry to see it happen. I was hoping for new Apple routers. I 
know they charge more than some others. But setting up one of those on a Mac 
was a total piece of cake. I'm all about pieces of cake when it comes to 
setting up routers.
Mary


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Re: Apple Ceases Development of 'AirPort' Wireless Routers as Engineers Reassigned to Other Products - Mac Rumors

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Well I’m not sure it’s a real big deal.  Granted I have, use and like the 
airport routers a lot but they aren’t really that full featured.  I personally 
use a different router and use the airports as access points but I was just 
starting to think it was getting long in the tooth and head in another 
direction like a new TP Link AD router or Netgear model which have much much 
more advanced WiFi features now.


They were good products though.

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