Re: Clickable items in Safari
these are things where if a sighted person hovers the mouse over them, you get choices. If you do a vo shift m on them, you will get a menu to make choices from in regards to the clickable item. hth, Caitlyn > On Jun 8, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Jean wrote: > > Hello All: > What does it mean in Safari when an item says “clickable?” Is it a link? > When I hit VO space on such items nothing happens. Can someone please > explain? > > Many thanks, > Jean > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clickable items in Safari
It means the text can be interacted by clicking with the mouse. Unfortunately, it depends on the webmaster coding the site whether VoiceOver can activate the clickable text or not. > On 8 Jun 2015, at 05:32, Jean wrote: > > Hello All: > What does it mean in Safari when an item says “clickable?” Is it a link? > When I hit VO space on such items nothing happens. Can someone please > explain? > > Many thanks, > Jean > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clickable items in Safari
Hello Jean, Often, clickable items are places where either a mouse hover or a mouse click will change what is shown on the page. Try bringing the mouse with VO-Cmd-F5 and doing a VO-Shift-Space type of click and see whether new items have appeared. Cheers, Anne > On 8 Jun 2015, at 06:32, Jean wrote: > > Hello All: > What does it mean in Safari when an item says “clickable?” Is it a link? > When I hit VO space on such items nothing happens. Can someone please > explain? > > Many thanks, > Jean > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: clickable items in safari
that worked--thanks...may finish this on a windows machine, sadly this site is not at all friendly with voiceover. I appreciate all of the help. V/R, Randy On May 29, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > When you press vo-cmd-f5, does VO speak the clickable item again? If not, > your mouse may not be being moved; try vo-cmd-function-f5. > On May 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Randy George wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> Have tried your suggestions, and unless I'm doing something wrong, which is >> definitely possible--I'm still not getting anywhere. I've tried every key >> combination possible, but I can't get the system to make the mouse click >> that I am used to hearing after the F5 trick...VO space isn't doing anything >> either. >> >> Thanks for any other suggestions. >> >> V/R, >> Randy >> On May 29, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Vo-space should work. If not, move to the item, press vo-cmd-f5 (you might >>> need to add the function key as well), and then click the mouse. If you >>> lack a mouse, use vo-shift-space to simulate a click. >>> On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George wrote: >>> Hi All, I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing happens. There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items. If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. V/R, Randy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> mehg...@icloud.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: clickable items in safari
When you press vo-cmd-f5, does VO speak the clickable item again? If not, your mouse may not be being moved; try vo-cmd-function-f5. On May 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Randy George wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Have tried your suggestions, and unless I'm doing something wrong, which is > definitely possible--I'm still not getting anywhere. I've tried every key > combination possible, but I can't get the system to make the mouse click that > I am used to hearing after the F5 trick...VO space isn't doing anything > either. > > Thanks for any other suggestions. > > V/R, > Randy > On May 29, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Vo-space should work. If not, move to the item, press vo-cmd-f5 (you might >> need to add the function key as well), and then click the mouse. If you lack >> a mouse, use vo-shift-space to simulate a click. >> On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling >>> clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing >>> happens. There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items. >>> >>> If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. >>> >>> V/R, >>> Randy >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: clickable items in safari
Hi Alex, Have tried your suggestions, and unless I'm doing something wrong, which is definitely possible--I'm still not getting anywhere. I've tried every key combination possible, but I can't get the system to make the mouse click that I am used to hearing after the F5 trick...VO space isn't doing anything either. Thanks for any other suggestions. V/R, Randy On May 29, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Vo-space should work. If not, move to the item, press vo-cmd-f5 (you might > need to add the function key as well), and then click the mouse. If you lack > a mouse, use vo-shift-space to simulate a click. > On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling >> clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing >> happens. There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items. >> >> If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. >> >> V/R, >> Randy >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: clickable items in safari
Hi, Sometimes the return key will work as well. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 29, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote: > Try vo shift m. > > alternatively, you can try option enter. > > If neither of those things works, try using the track pad to click on the > items. > > hth, > Caitlyn > > On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling >> clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing >> happens. There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items. >> >> If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. >> >> V/R, >> Randy >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: clickable items in safari
Try vo shift m. alternatively, you can try option enter. If neither of those things works, try using the track pad to click on the items. hth, Caitlyn On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George wrote: > Hi All, > > I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling > clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing > happens. There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items. > > If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. > > V/R, > Randy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: clickable items in safari
Vo-space should work. If not, move to the item, press vo-cmd-f5 (you might need to add the function key as well), and then click the mouse. If you lack a mouse, use vo-shift-space to simulate a click. On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George wrote: > Hi All, > > I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling > clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing > happens. There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items. > > If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. > > V/R, > Randy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Observation re Clickable Text
Hi, I see this behaviour often when trying to print from a link to print from a site. There is a recipe site that my wife often asks me to print a recipe from, this is where I see this. Max On 12 Dec 2013, at 2:23 am, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > Hi list, > > Just reporting on some interesting behaviour I just observed which might help > some people with clickable text/AJAX menus. > > I was using a website and the main menu had apparently recently been updated. > In Safari version 6.0.5 on Mountain Lion, VoiceOver reported each item as > clickable. I tried doing a VO-space on an item, but it didn't work. I tried > routing the mouse and doing VO-shift-space as well as a physical click on the > TrackPad with TrackPad commander turned off, but neither of these worked > either. I then switched to Google Chrome and tried the same methods, but none > of them worked in Chrome either. > > The interesting thing is I tried routing the mouse to the text, and then > turning VoiceOver off with command-F5 and then physically clicking the > TrackPad. This, strangely, worked. It opened an AJAX style submenu with > ordinary links I could click on. I tried this method several times and it > worked. I only tried it in Google Chrome, however. > > So, moral of the story is if you find some clickable text or an AJAX style > menu that you can't seem to activate, try routing the mouse, turning > VoiceOver off and physically clicking the TrackPad. Not sure why there would > be any difference with VoiceOver turned on and QuickNav turned off compared > with having VoiceOver turned off, but it was clearly different. > > Cheers, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Observation re Clickable Text
Hi list, Just reporting on some interesting behaviour I just observed which might help some people with clickable text/AJAX menus. I was using a website and the main menu had apparently recently been updated. In Safari version 6.0.5 on Mountain Lion, VoiceOver reported each item as clickable. I tried doing a VO-space on an item, but it didn't work. I tried routing the mouse and doing VO-shift-space as well as a physical click on the TrackPad with TrackPad commander turned off, but neither of these worked either. I then switched to Google Chrome and tried the same methods, but none of them worked in Chrome either. The interesting thing is I tried routing the mouse to the text, and then turning VoiceOver off with command-F5 and then physically clicking the TrackPad. This, strangely, worked. It opened an AJAX style submenu with ordinary links I could click on. I tried this method several times and it worked. I only tried it in Google Chrome, however. So, moral of the story is if you find some clickable text or an AJAX style menu that you can't seem to activate, try routing the mouse, turning VoiceOver off and physically clicking the TrackPad. Not sure why there would be any difference with VoiceOver turned on and QuickNav turned off compared with having VoiceOver turned off, but it was clearly different. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: clickable?
ok, but in this case, it was the specific nutritional information for the product. There didn't seem to be any other way to get it but to click on what at first appeared to be a link-until I slowed down and listened and heard that "clickable", that is. Cait On Sep 26, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Clickables are things that, if you just leave your mouse/cursor sit on them > for a certain period, will open or expand information windows about the item. > Sometimes you can VO space of VO shift space (mouse click) on the clickable > to do this, but you don't have to. Often, VO just says Clickable when > there's nothing there to click. It's kinda like "data detector present." > Not much to really worry over. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clickable?
Hmm, ok, thanks, I'll have to try that and see if that works next time. Caitlyn On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: > Hi, > > It depends on the site. Usually VO-space works. But the information could pop > up anywhere. If it's not directly underneath the text, I usually look at the > bottom of the page. > > Brandon > > www.chrits-light-ministries.org > Preorder my book, Healing Beyond Healing, to learn and master the art of > holistic healing. > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> when you come across a place on a web page in safari(or any other web >> browser on the mac I suppose), and it says "clickable", how do you handle >> this? I have tried everything I can think of to access the information and >> nothing has worked. vo space, vo shift space, option enter(I was >> desperate!)-nothing worked). I also tried turning off my track pad >> commander and tapping the lower left corner of my track pad to simulate a >> mouse click, but nothing. >> >> A sighted friend told me that in this situation, she sees a message on >> screen which says "click to view" next to where I have to click. When she >> clicks her mouse on that, a little box pops up and voila, she can read the >> information. >> >> The site in question at first was www.skinnycow.com >> >> any of their products has nutritional information, but when you try to >> access any of it, it says nutritional information, click below to get >> complete information >> >> nutritional information(clickable) >> >> then when you do, nothing >> >> anyway, help! >> >> thanks! >> >> Caitlyn >> ps-I've run across this on other sites, too, but this one, and the lara bar >> site, have been the latest ones. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clickable?
Clickables are things that, if you just leave your mouse/cursor sit on them for a certain period, will open or expand information windows about the item. Sometimes you can VO space of VO shift space (mouse click) on the clickable to do this, but you don't have to. Often, VO just says Clickable when there's nothing there to click. It's kinda like "data detector present." Not much to really worry over. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clickable?
Hi, It depends on the site. Usually VO-space works. But the information could pop up anywhere. If it's not directly underneath the text, I usually look at the bottom of the page. Brandon www.chrits-light-ministries.org Preorder my book, Healing Beyond Healing, to learn and master the art of holistic healing. On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > Hi, > > when you come across a place on a web page in safari(or any other web browser > on the mac I suppose), and it says "clickable", how do you handle this? I > have tried everything I can think of to access the information and nothing > has worked. vo space, vo shift space, option enter(I was desperate!)-nothing > worked). I also tried turning off my track pad commander and tapping the > lower left corner of my track pad to simulate a mouse click, but nothing. > > A sighted friend told me that in this situation, she sees a message on screen > which says "click to view" next to where I have to click. When she clicks > her mouse on that, a little box pops up and voila, she can read the > information. > > The site in question at first was www.skinnycow.com > > any of their products has nutritional information, but when you try to access > any of it, it says nutritional information, click below to get complete > information > > nutritional information(clickable) > > then when you do, nothing > > anyway, help! > > thanks! > > Caitlyn > ps-I've run across this on other sites, too, but this one, and the lara bar > site, have been the latest ones. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Clickable
I don't drink coffee. On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > Dude, switch to the decaf, the people on this list all (to my > knowledge) volunteers and they do their best to help each other out. > Further examination of your "clickable" issues may be indicated but > you needn't be so snotty about it. > > Happy Alexander Berkman Day, > cdh > On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> Hello >> On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Those things that VO has >>> reported as being clickable have in fact been clickable >> >> OK very well. So in this article >> >> http://www.examiner.com/x-6741-SF-Family-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Boy-11-stabbed-on-SF-bus-Friday-nearly-dies >> >> pretty much every single item of text in the article itself is >> clickable. I did vo space on one of the blocks of text, and it did >> nothing. I then clicked on it with the mouse and it gave me a spam >> window. When I say text items, I mean the text of the article. So >> again, you insist that this is all clickable, but then how is it >> clickable when I click on it and it either does nothing, or gives >> me a >> pop-up? >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Hi, Another thought: You say that you are navigating by "text block" which may report clickable if anything in the block indeed has the clickable property. You may want to navigate in smaller chunks so as to find out which word/words have the clickable property. Happy Jack Reed Day, cdh On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > Hi, > > Clickable is a valid html element that turns an item into something > like a link with a few minor different properties. You should be able > to click the mouse cursor on one of these items and and some action > should occur. If the site you cite has items labeled clickable that > are not it is because their html and/or JavaScript is broken. > Whatever content pops up or is otherwise presented to you when you > click on such an object is up to the authors of the page and is not a > function of the clickable property, Safari or pretty much anything > else you use. > > For more on this, you can look at the web content guidelines or, more > to the point for your issue, the web content accessibility guidelines > and the web user agent guidelines. The WCAG tells web authors how to > make the clickable item accessible and the UAG tells screen reader and > other access technology authors how it should be presented to the > user. > > All of these guidelines plus lots more great stuff can be found at: > www.w3c.org/wai > . The WAI stands for web accessibility initiative. > > Happy Eugene Debbs Day, > cdh > On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> Hello >> On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Those things that VO has >>> reported as being clickable have in fact been clickable >> >> OK very well. So in this article >> >> http://www.examiner.com/x-6741-SF-Family-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Boy-11-stabbed-on-SF-bus-Friday-nearly-dies >> >> pretty much every single item of text in the article itself is >> clickable. I did vo space on one of the blocks of text, and it did >> nothing. I then clicked on it with the mouse and it gave me a spam >> window. When I say text items, I mean the text of the article. So >> again, you insist that this is all clickable, but then how is it >> clickable when I click on it and it either does nothing, or gives >> me a >> pop-up? >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Dude, switch to the decaf, the people on this list all (to my knowledge) volunteers and they do their best to help each other out. Further examination of your "clickable" issues may be indicated but you needn't be so snotty about it. Happy Alexander Berkman Day, cdh On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > > Hello > On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Those things that VO has >> reported as being clickable have in fact been clickable > > OK very well. So in this article > > http://www.examiner.com/x-6741-SF-Family-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Boy-11-stabbed-on-SF-bus-Friday-nearly-dies > > pretty much every single item of text in the article itself is > clickable. I did vo space on one of the blocks of text, and it did > nothing. I then clicked on it with the mouse and it gave me a spam > window. When I say text items, I mean the text of the article. So > again, you insist that this is all clickable, but then how is it > clickable when I click on it and it either does nothing, or gives me a > pop-up? > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Hi, Clickable is a valid html element that turns an item into something like a link with a few minor different properties. You should be able to click the mouse cursor on one of these items and and some action should occur. If the site you cite has items labeled clickable that are not it is because their html and/or JavaScript is broken. Whatever content pops up or is otherwise presented to you when you click on such an object is up to the authors of the page and is not a function of the clickable property, Safari or pretty much anything else you use. For more on this, you can look at the web content guidelines or, more to the point for your issue, the web content accessibility guidelines and the web user agent guidelines. The WCAG tells web authors how to make the clickable item accessible and the UAG tells screen reader and other access technology authors how it should be presented to the user. All of these guidelines plus lots more great stuff can be found at: www.w3c.org/wai . The WAI stands for web accessibility initiative. Happy Eugene Debbs Day, cdh On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > > Hello > On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Those things that VO has >> reported as being clickable have in fact been clickable > > OK very well. So in this article > > http://www.examiner.com/x-6741-SF-Family-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Boy-11-stabbed-on-SF-bus-Friday-nearly-dies > > pretty much every single item of text in the article itself is > clickable. I did vo space on one of the blocks of text, and it did > nothing. I then clicked on it with the mouse and it gave me a spam > window. When I say text items, I mean the text of the article. So > again, you insist that this is all clickable, but then how is it > clickable when I click on it and it either does nothing, or gives me a > pop-up? > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Hello On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Those things that VO has > reported as being clickable have in fact been clickable OK very well. So in this article http://www.examiner.com/x-6741-SF-Family-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Boy-11-stabbed-on-SF-bus-Friday-nearly-dies pretty much every single item of text in the article itself is clickable. I did vo space on one of the blocks of text, and it did nothing. I then clicked on it with the mouse and it gave me a spam window. When I say text items, I mean the text of the article. So again, you insist that this is all clickable, but then how is it clickable when I click on it and it either does nothing, or gives me a pop-up? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Just for the record: a Clickable item is different from a Mouse Over one. Often, though, a web item has both attributes. On Sep 5, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Actually, you don't want to get rid of this, because it could be > important. This indicates that the text you are on can be clicked, > much like a link. It's the ame as window eyes calling something an on > click, or jaws calling something mouse over. > On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Mac Cougar wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> Snow Leopard is great and sure am glad it is up and running on my >> computer. When I get on the internet now I keep hearing the word >> clickable at the end of lines. Any ideas how I can get rid of this. >> It gets annoying after awhile. >> >> Thanks >> Steve >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
5 sep 2009 kl. 23.11 skrev Justin Harford: > but it basically calls things clickable that really are not clickable. I haven't had any problems with this at all. Those things that VO has reported as being clickable have in fact been clickable. One tip though is that if you use groups mode, you may actually have to interact with the clickable text to be able to click on it. In my experience, the clickable things have worked better than it did on the PC with various screen readers where you had to route the mouse to the virtual cursor in order to actually click on the clickable object. As a slightly off-topic question sprung out of curiosity, i wonder how those clickables are made in html/javascript whatever? /Krister --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Hello, Then explain to me why when I first installed Snow Leopard I had one page with clickable after almost every line and now they have all disappeared? On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > If it says clickable, it's flagged that way in the code. > On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> but it basically calls things clickable that really are not >> clickable. >> >> J >> El Sep 5, 2009, a las 10:45 AM, Krister Ekstrom escribió: >> >>> >>> I think it's a wonderful thing that it says "clickable". This means >>> that VO in fact recognizes those kinds of new links that don't look >>> like links. It had trouble with this in Leopard. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 5 sep 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Mac Cougar: >>> Hello, Snow Leopard is great and sure am glad it is up and running on my computer. When I get on the internet now I keep hearing the word clickable at the end of lines. Any ideas how I can get rid of this. It gets annoying after awhile. Thanks Steve > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
If it says clickable, it's flagged that way in the code. On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > > but it basically calls things clickable that really are not clickable. > > J > El Sep 5, 2009, a las 10:45 AM, Krister Ekstrom escribió: > >> >> I think it's a wonderful thing that it says "clickable". This means >> that VO in fact recognizes those kinds of new links that don't look >> like links. It had trouble with this in Leopard. >> /Krister >> >> 5 sep 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Mac Cougar: >> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Snow Leopard is great and sure am glad it is up and running on my >>> computer. When I get on the internet now I keep hearing the word >>> clickable at the end of lines. Any ideas how I can get rid of this. >>> It gets annoying after awhile. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Steve >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
but it basically calls things clickable that really are not clickable. J El Sep 5, 2009, a las 10:45 AM, Krister Ekstrom escribió: > > I think it's a wonderful thing that it says "clickable". This means > that VO in fact recognizes those kinds of new links that don't look > like links. It had trouble with this in Leopard. > /Krister > > 5 sep 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Mac Cougar: > >> >> Hello, >> >> Snow Leopard is great and sure am glad it is up and running on my >> computer. When I get on the internet now I keep hearing the word >> clickable at the end of lines. Any ideas how I can get rid of this. >> It gets annoying after awhile. >> >> Thanks >> Steve >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
I think it's a wonderful thing that it says "clickable". This means that VO in fact recognizes those kinds of new links that don't look like links. It had trouble with this in Leopard. /Krister 5 sep 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Mac Cougar: > > Hello, > > Snow Leopard is great and sure am glad it is up and running on my > computer. When I get on the internet now I keep hearing the word > clickable at the end of lines. Any ideas how I can get rid of this. > It gets annoying after awhile. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clickable
Actually, you don't want to get rid of this, because it could be important. This indicates that the text you are on can be clicked, much like a link. It's the ame as window eyes calling something an on click, or jaws calling something mouse over. On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Mac Cougar wrote: > > Hello, > > Snow Leopard is great and sure am glad it is up and running on my > computer. When I get on the internet now I keep hearing the word > clickable at the end of lines. Any ideas how I can get rid of this. > It gets annoying after awhile. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
