Re: Funny Issue with Mail
Sure, what is the address top level domain you're sending from. Is this your own mail server, do the reverse and forward records in DNS match? Is there a PTR record present for your mail server if it's your own? One possibility is that the mail server your writing from isn't properly configured and or set up correctly in DNS and the target mail server where your writing to is configured to reject mail thinking it's a spam source and it may not allow the message to transfer at all. It's part of the standard ruleset in sendmail. Are you certain your mail server is picking up the message, the message moves from the outbox to the sent folder? Give us a little background on your source address / mail server and maybe we can provide somep ointers. Just an idea I could be way off, it could be a mail program issue but that seems like likely. I am very very new to Apple mail though so take what I say with a grain of sault. I've been working on mail transfer agents for a solid 20 years though so I've seen this type of behavior with misconfigured mail servers. Thanks Scott On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote: Hey, I've been experiencing a strange issue when using Apple Mail to send messages. I've been sending them with no problems that I knew of until I sent some messages to a new address I hadn't sent to before. According to Mail, the message was sent, but was never received by the person I sent it to. I asked him to check the spam folder as well, but he had no luck finding it there either. When I sent him the same message from GMail.com, he got it. I'm a little worried about this, cause I don't know how many other times this has occurred. Does anyone have any ideas on why this might be happening? Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Funny Issue with Mail
Justin, I have had this problem before and still do from time to time. I have narrowed it down to something that may have nothing to do at all with Apple Mail, but here is how I live with the problem which I have thus far been unable to solve: For several days, work colleagues were not getting my mail though I was sending it to them and nothing was ever bounced back. It turned out in my case that when I changed my ISP, the headache went away. I still have the same annoying problem with certain addresses whenever I use my mobile Internet broadband connection. Strangely enough, I can't send messages to other people who are using the same Internet mobile broadband ISP. I have never figured out the solution; I have just learned to live with it. If I need to make good and sure that someone is going to get the message, I use the ISP's webmail interface to send the note. Sorry I can't be of more help. Mike On 4,Sep,2010, at 3:47 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote: Hey, I've been experiencing a strange issue when using Apple Mail to send messages. I've been sending them with no problems that I knew of until I sent some messages to a new address I hadn't sent to before. According to Mail, the message was sent, but was never received by the person I sent it to. I asked him to check the spam folder as well, but he had no luck finding it there either. When I sent him the same message from GMail.com, he got it. I'm a little worried about this, cause I don't know how many other times this has occurred. Does anyone have any ideas on why this might be happening? Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Funny Issue with Mail
The problem is your provider probably hosts spamming customers so their IP ranges end up in black lists. Spam Haus is a good example of these services that track spam based on IP addresses. Also note if you run your own SMTP mail server on mobile IP space or space that's known and recorded with ARIN as remote access ranges you'll automatically be included in some blacklists. Not everyone uses these services but many companies use comercial antispam solutions that grab a lot of this data to build their rules sets. I'm absolutely certain from the several messages on this thread that I've seen so far that your experiencing some variation on this theme. Thanks Scott On Sep 4, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Justin, I have had this problem before and still do from time to time. I have narrowed it down to something that may have nothing to do at all with Apple Mail, but here is how I live with the problem which I have thus far been unable to solve: For several days, work colleagues were not getting my mail though I was sending it to them and nothing was ever bounced back. It turned out in my case that when I changed my ISP, the headache went away. I still have the same annoying problem with certain addresses whenever I use my mobile Internet broadband connection. Strangely enough, I can't send messages to other people who are using the same Internet mobile broadband ISP. I have never figured out the solution; I have just learned to live with it. If I need to make good and sure that someone is going to get the message, I use the ISP's webmail interface to send the note. Sorry I can't be of more help. Mike On 4,Sep,2010, at 3:47 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote: Hey, I've been experiencing a strange issue when using Apple Mail to send messages. I've been sending them with no problems that I knew of until I sent some messages to a new address I hadn't sent to before. According to Mail, the message was sent, but was never received by the person I sent it to. I asked him to check the spam folder as well, but he had no luck finding it there either. When I sent him the same message from GMail.com, he got it. I'm a little worried about this, cause I don't know how many other times this has occurred. Does anyone have any ideas on why this might be happening? Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Funny Issue with Mail
Scott, To be honest, a lot of what your asking is a little beyond me. I have my Gmail account setup, and I'm assuming it was done right, as most of my messages are getting sent out. So far, all I know is that the message is being registered as being sent out, as the e-mail is moved to the sent folder. The mail program also makes the nifty airplane noise to indicate that the message is on its way out. I've tried sending messages from 2 different networks, one in New York and one in Virginia, and have gotten the same result. After reading some of the experiences that others have had, I'm going to go ahead and send messages from the actual Gmail website as that doesn't cause any issues. Thanks so much for the response and for the info. Justin On Sep 4, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Sure, what is the address top level domain you're sending from. Is this your own mail server, do the reverse and forward records in DNS match? Is there a PTR record present for your mail server if it's your own? One possibility is that the mail server your writing from isn't properly configured and or set up correctly in DNS and the target mail server where your writing to is configured to reject mail thinking it's a spam source and it may not allow the message to transfer at all. It's part of the standard ruleset in sendmail. Are you certain your mail server is picking up the message, the message moves from the outbox to the sent folder? Give us a little background on your source address / mail server and maybe we can provide somep ointers. Just an idea I could be way off, it could be a mail program issue but that seems like likely. I am very very new to Apple mail though so take what I say with a grain of sault. I've been working on mail transfer agents for a solid 20 years though so I've seen this type of behavior with misconfigured mail servers. Thanks Scott On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote: Hey, I've been experiencing a strange issue when using Apple Mail to send messages. I've been sending them with no problems that I knew of until I sent some messages to a new address I hadn't sent to before. According to Mail, the message was sent, but was never received by the person I sent it to. I asked him to check the spam folder as well, but he had no luck finding it there either. When I sent him the same message from GMail.com, he got it. I'm a little worried about this, cause I don't know how many other times this has occurred. Does anyone have any ideas on why this might be happening? Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
