subject:"Re\: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen"

Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-17 Thread Julie Rattray

I love it too 

> On 15 Mar 2022, at 11:11, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro 
> the track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
> touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>> 
>> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>> 
>> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
>> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
>> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I 
>> can enter my password.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>>> mini Harry
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>>> logon prompt.
>>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-16 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
It worked out well.
Now things are working  as expected.
/A

> 15 mars 2022 kl. 21:58 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Using VO navigation you should be able to easily find it.  I checked in Big 
> Sur on a 2013 MacBook Air and in Monterey on a 2015 MacBook Air and was able 
> to quickly find the button with VO-right.
> 
> • open System Prefs.
> • type user then press VO-space.
> • VO-FN-right then a few VO-lefts to find the lock.
> • VO-space on the lock and enter password.
> • VO-FN-left to get quickly to the top, then VO-right a few times to get to 
> the list.
> • Interact with the list and VO-down to the Login Options item.
> • stop interacting with the list and VO-right until you hear Accessibility 
> Options.
> • VO-space on it.
> • Interact with the table and VO-space on VoiceOver to have VO be on at the 
> Login screen.
> • VO-space on Apply.
> • close System Prefs.
> • restart your Mac to test.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 14:50, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim!
>> That was a bit hard to find but I did find it with the tab key.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 15 mars 2022 kl. 17:11 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
>>> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There 
>>> will be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a 
>>> screen with a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is 
>>> checked, apply your changes, and restart your computer to see if the 
>>> changes stick.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
 I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
 Harry
 
> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
> logon prompt.
> Where do I go to make this work?
> 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries

On my M1 MacBook Pro yesterday I set up VoiceOver to start at the login screen 
all over again. When it restarted, VoiceOver worked fine. Today VoiceOver did 
not start at the login screen so I was very glad to have the hint to tap twice 
on the touchpad! That did work!
Harry

> On 15 Mar 2022, at 16:15, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> They don’t stick. This is happening on some machines. I have had at least 
> four instructors go through these steps and I have done this myself several 
> times. I think there may be an issue with this feature at this time.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
>> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There 
>> will be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a 
>> screen with a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is 
>> checked, apply your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes 
>> stick.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
 
 Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
 logon prompt.
 Where do I go to make this work?
 
 
 Dave Carlson
 Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
 
 
 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

Using VO navigation you should be able to easily find it.  I checked in Big Sur 
on a 2013 MacBook Air and in Monterey on a 2015 MacBook Air and was able to 
quickly find the button with VO-right.

• open System Prefs.
• type user then press VO-space.
• VO-FN-right then a few VO-lefts to find the lock.
• VO-space on the lock and enter password.
• VO-FN-left to get quickly to the top, then VO-right a few times to get to the 
list.
• Interact with the list and VO-down to the Login Options item.
• stop interacting with the list and VO-right until you hear Accessibility 
Options.
• VO-space on it.
• Interact with the table and VO-space on VoiceOver to have VO be on at the 
Login screen.
• VO-space on Apply.
• close System Prefs.
• restart your Mac to test.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 14:50, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim!
> That was a bit hard to find but I did find it with the tab key.
> /A
> 
>> 15 mars 2022 kl. 17:11 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
>> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There 
>> will be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a 
>> screen with a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is 
>> checked, apply your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes 
>> stick.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson >>> > wrote:
 
 Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
 logon prompt.
 Where do I go to make this work?
 
 
 Dave Carlson
 Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
 
 
 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi Tim!
That was a bit hard to find but I did find it with the tab key.
/A

> 15 mars 2022 kl. 17:11 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There will 
> be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a screen with 
> a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is checked, apply 
> your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes stick.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>> logon prompt.
>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
I have the same issue on my old MacBook Air Intel version.
There are  no such setting either on my Monterey.
Its just not there.
/A

> 15 mars 2022 kl. 11:57 skrev 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can 
> enter my password.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>> logon prompt.
>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

Good work Dave.

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> On Mar 15, 2022, at 11:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Thanks, Tim! It worked just as advertised. And now you know that I’ve finally 
> installed Monterey.
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Dave Carlson

Thanks, Tim! It worked just as advertised. And now you know that I’ve finally 
installed Monterey.

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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Fazil M.

Thanks much, Tim. I followed these instructions and it worked a couple of times 
but then no more.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
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Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

Hi,

Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then select 
Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There will be a 
button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a screen with a 
table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is checked, apply 
your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes stick.

Later…

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On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
Harry

On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the logon 
prompt.
Where do I go to make this work?

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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

Well, that’s an issue.  They are sticking for me in Monterey 12.3 on an M1 
MacBook Pro.  I have had them go away after an update, but they are sticking 
within a MacOS cycle for me.

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> On Mar 15, 2022, at 10:15, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
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> They don’t stick. This is happening on some machines. I have had at least 
> four instructors go through these steps and I have done this myself several 
> times. I think there may be an issue with this feature at this time.
> Merv
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
>> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There 
>> will be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a 
>> screen with a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is 
>> checked, apply your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes 
>> stick.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
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>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson >>> > wrote:
 
 Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
 logon prompt.
 Where do I go to make this work?
 
 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries

They don’t stick. This is happening on some machines. I have had at least four 
instructors go through these steps and I have done this myself several times. I 
think there may be an issue with this feature at this time.
Merv


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> 
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> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There will 
> be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a screen with 
> a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is checked, apply 
> your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes stick.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
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>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>> logon prompt.
>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then select 
Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There will be a 
button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a screen with a 
table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is checked, apply 
your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes stick.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
> Harry
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>> logon prompt.
>> Where do I go to make this work?
>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries

I usually single tap twice. But I really don’t think it matters at this point. 
I’ve double tapped and it still works. It is a very strange issue. I do not use 
file fault. I do have MonteRay.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 9:39 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Do you tap once or double tap?
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:53 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
> 
> Yes once the MacBook Pro boots I tap the trackpad and the Mac says VoiceOver 
> and I can then enter my password. Then I hit enter and the Mac logs in.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:23 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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>> I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
>> Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>> 
>> Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro 
>> the track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with 
>> the touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
>>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>>> 
>>> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this 
>>> and all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
>>> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I 
>>> can enter my password.
>>> Merv
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>>>> mini Harry
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>>>> logon prompt.
>>>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Fazil M.

Do you tap once or double tap?
Thanks!


-Original Message-
From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:53 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

Yes once the MacBook Pro boots I tap the trackpad and the Mac says VoiceOver 
and I can then enter my password. Then I hit enter and the Mac logs in.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:23 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
> Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
> 
> Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro 
> the track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
> touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>> 
>> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>> 
>> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
>> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
>> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I 
>> can enter my password.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>>> mini Harry
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>>> logon prompt.
>>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Herbie Allen

I used to have issues with Big Sur but not with Monterey. Using a Macbook Pro 
2019. It has the t2 chip which could b a factor but I also use File Vault. 

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 06:53, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes once the MacBook Pro boots I tap the trackpad and the Mac says VoiceOver 
> and I can then enter my password. Then I hit enter and the Mac logs in.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:23 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>> 
>> I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
>> Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>> 
>> Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro 
>> the track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with 
>> the touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
>>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>>> 
>>> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this 
>>> and all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
>>> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I 
>>> can enter my password.
>>> Merv
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>>>> mini Harry
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>>>> logon prompt.
>>>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries

Yes once the MacBook Pro boots I tap the trackpad and the Mac says VoiceOver 
and I can then enter my password. Then I hit enter and the Mac logs in.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:23 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
> Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
> 
> Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro 
> the track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
> touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>> 
>> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>> 
>> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
>> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
>> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I 
>> can enter my password.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>>> mini Harry
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>>> logon prompt.
>>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>>> 
>>>> 
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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Fazil M.

I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro the 
track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
> 
> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can 
> enter my password.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>> mini Harry
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>> logon prompt.
>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries

Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro the 
track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
> 
> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can 
> enter my password.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>> mini Harry
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>> logon prompt.
>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread Fazil M.

Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 MacBook 
Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can enter my 
password.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
> mini Harry
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>> logon prompt.
>> Where do I go to make this work?
>> 
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
>> 
>> 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries

I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 MacBook 
Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can enter my 
password.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
> Harry
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>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>> logon prompt.
>> Where do I go to make this work?
>> 
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

2022-03-15 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries

It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
Harry

> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the logon 
> prompt.
> Where do I go to make this work?
> 
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> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
> 
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