Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

That’s interesting Anders.  It certainly shoulnd’t normally be using that much 
juice in that short of time with the use-case you’ve mentioned. I use my XS for 
work and personal activities throughout the day and have anywhere from 35% to 
less than 10% by bedtime.  My XS is also about 18 months old.  Try going into 
Settings, Battery, swipe through the items on that screen and see if there’s 
any indication of what is doing the draining.  Usually, it will default to the 
last 24 hours.  You can swipe through those and down near the bottom of all the 
items, it will be able to say what apps or services were affecting battery 
life.  I would also change it to “Last 10 Days”, and do the same.  The info 
down at the bottom is even more enlightening when looking at it over the long 
term as opposed to the 24 hour period.  The XR should have better battery life 
than my XS, so this does not sound normal.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 8, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have an iPhone XR which i’ve had for 15 months.
> I don’t use it a lot during the day as i am mostly in my home.
> I answer phone calls and typing sms.
> Other things i do on my other apple devices i have.
> Yesterday the phone went from 100% to 27% within 10 hours.
> The battery helt claims my phone battery is normal.
> I don’t have bluetooth or mobile data on when i don’t need it.
> Only wiFi so i can take calls on other devices.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 22:48 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> What model phone you got again? How long is your battery lasting before you 
>> need to charge it up again, and what are you using your phone for during the 
>> day?
>> 
>>> On 7/05/2020, at 23:35, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
>>> Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
>>> Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
>>> /A
>>> 
 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have an iPhone XR which i’ve had for 15 months.
I don’t use it a lot during the day as i am mostly in my home.
I answer phone calls and typing sms.
Other things i do on my other apple devices i have.
Yesterday the phone went from 100% to 27% within 10 hours.
The battery helt claims my phone battery is normal.
I don’t have bluetooth or mobile data on when i don’t need it.
Only wiFi so i can take calls on other devices.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 22:48 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> What model phone you got again? How long is your battery lasting before you 
> need to charge it up again, and what are you using your phone for during the 
> day?
> 
>> On 7/05/2020, at 23:35, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
>> Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
>> Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
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RE: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I only get the 2 options power off and sos emergency call.


From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 4:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

Hi,

Yes, that’s the same screen I get on my XS and my wife’s XR.  I have had it on 
occasion though focus on the Emergency SOS button instead of the Power Off 
button.  I usually suggest that people flick left until they hit the wall or 
hear “Power Off” before double-tapping.  Don’t need to call emergency services 
by accident.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 7, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Yes, that's the same screen I get on my iPhone X without a home button.
- Brad -

On May 7, 2020, at 11:11, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan



On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you are 
spot on.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one finger.

HTH


BRADFORD SNYDER
+1.214.893.8060
wb...@swbell.net<mailto:wb...@swbell.net>


On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of the 
home button. What’s the “normal” way?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad


On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi Petrus,

I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can hold 
down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut down.  The 
force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less desirable 
results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t 
think it’s worth the risk.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Anders,
The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding the 
side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular way 
would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I do a 
reboot that way as well from time to time.


On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Aha! That might help me too.
I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
Thanks Petrus for that.
/A


4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:

Hi all,
I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask for.
I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when we 
moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t used it 
for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my location via 
bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. I couldn’t quite 
make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK 
anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the 
preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday 
trying to work out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my 
battery health and it was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, 
the only change I made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my 
settings and found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned 
off the bluetooth access my battery 

Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Jonathan Cohn]

Then you might not have filled in basic health information in the health app. 
This might be useful for emergency workers if they find you unconscious and 
your iPhone is by your side. (Oh, and if you activate either the Health or 
Emergency SOS the face/finger print sensors should be deactivated.
, 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 7, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> No i only have the power off and imergency thing.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 18:11 skrev Jonathan Cohn > >:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
>> dialog with three items:
>> 1. Power Off
>> 2. Medical ID
>> 3. Emergency SOS 
>> 
>> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with 
>> the iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>>> are spot on.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
 home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at 
 the same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then 
 find the “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double 
 tap with one finger.
 
 HTH
 
 
 BRADFORD SNYDER
 +1.214.893.8060
 wb...@swbell.net 
 
 
 
 On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
 the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
> mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
>> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
>> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
>> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
>> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
>> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time 
>> to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
 ask for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
 when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
 hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to 
 access my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or 
 something like that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head 
 between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed 
 a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the preceding days but 
 isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to 
 work out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked 

Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Anders,
What model phone you got again? How long is your battery lasting before you 
need to charge it up again, and what are you using your phone for during the 
day?

> On 7/05/2020, at 23:35, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
> Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
> Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks Tim,
I’ll stop recommending that method to people unless it is a last resort and 
nothing else is working.

> On 7/05/2020, at 15:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
> is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
> things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
> Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
> the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
 Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
 
 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No i only have the power off and imergency thing.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 18:11 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Hello,
> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
> dialog with three items:
> 1. Power Off
> 2. Medical ID
> 3. Emergency SOS 
> 
> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
> iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>> are spot on.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>>> one finger.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>>> +1.214.893.8060
>>> wb...@swbell.net 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Petrus,
 
 I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
 ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
 mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
 version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
 restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
 unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
 forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
 get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
 nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
> time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>>> ask for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to 
>>> access my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or 
>>> something like that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head 
>>> between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a 
>>> huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the preceding days but 
>>> isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work 
>>> out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery 
>>> health and it was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, 
>>> the only change I made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went 
>>> into my settings and found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. 
>>> Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery life was back to 
>>> normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when they ask me to 
>>> give them access and permissions. 
>>> Sorry for the rant, 
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The 

Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, that’s the same screen I get on my XS and my wife’s XR.  I have had it on 
occasion though focus on the Emergency SOS button instead of the Power Off 
button.  I usually suggest that people flick left until they hit the wall or 
hear “Power Off” before double-tapping.  Don’t need to call emergency services 
by accident.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's the same screen I get on my iPhone X without a home button.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 11:11, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
> dialog with three items:
> 1. Power Off
> 2. Medical ID
> 3. Emergency SOS 
> 
> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
> iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>> are spot on.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>>> one finger.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>>> +1.214.893.8060
>>> wb...@swbell.net 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Petrus,
 
 I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
 ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
 mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
 version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
 restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
 unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
 forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
 get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
 nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
> time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>>> ask for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to 
>>> access my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or 
>>> something like that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head 
>>> between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a 
>>> huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the preceding days but 
>>> isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work 
>>> out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery 
>>> 

Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, that's the same screen I get on my iPhone X without a home button.

- Brad -

On May 7, 2020, at 11:11, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS 

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan


> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
> are spot on.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>> one finger.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>> +1.214.893.8060
>> wb...@swbell.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
>>> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
>>> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
>>> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
>>> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
>>> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
>>> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Visionaries list.
>>  
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS 

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan


> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
> are spot on.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>> one finger.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>> +1.214.893.8060
>> wb...@swbell.net 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
>>> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
>>> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
>>> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
>>> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
>>> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
>>> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>> 
>> 
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>> Visionaries list.
>>  
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That's the first I've ever heard of that. Thanks, I'll change my power-off 
procedure.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 7, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
> button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
> time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
> to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one 
> finger.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> BRADFORD SNYDER
> +1.214.893.8060
> wb...@swbell.net 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version. 
>>  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go 
>> to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
>> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
>> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
>> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
>> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
> 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Brad Snyder]



- Brad -

On May 7, 2020, at 09:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you are 
spot on.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
> button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
> time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
> to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one 
> finger.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> BRADFORD SNYDER
> +1.214.893.8060
> wb...@swbell.net
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version. 
>>  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go 
>> to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
>> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
>> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
>> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
>> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you are 
spot on.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
> button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
> time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
> to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one 
> finger.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> BRADFORD SNYDER
> +1.214.893.8060
> wb...@swbell.net 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version. 
>>  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go 
>> to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
>> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
>> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
>> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
>> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Brad Snyder]

I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one finger.

HTH


BRADFORD SNYDER
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wb...@swbell.net



On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Tim,

I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of the 
home button. What’s the “normal” way?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
> is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
> things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
> Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
> the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim,

I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of the 
home button. What’s the “normal” way?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
> is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
> things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
> Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
> the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can 
> hold down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut 
> down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less 
> desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I 
> just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
>> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I 
>> do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>> 
>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
 
 Hi all,
 I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
 for. 
 I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
 we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
 used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
 location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
 I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
 but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
 on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
 sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
 fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
 performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
 Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
 checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
 life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
 they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
 Sorry for the rant, 
 Petrus 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I do 
> a reboot that way as well from time to time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
>>> for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
>>> we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
>>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
>>> but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
>>> on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
>>> sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
>>> fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
>>> performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
>>> Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
>>> checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
>>> life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
>>> they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
>>> Sorry for the rant, 
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Petrus,

I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can hold 
down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut down.  The 
force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less desirable 
results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t 
think it’s worth the risk.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular 
> way would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I do 
> a reboot that way as well from time to time.
> 
>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Aha! That might help me too.
>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
>>> for. 
>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
>>> we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
>>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. 
>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth 
>>> but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life 
>>> on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was 
>>> sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so 
>>> fast and I even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek 
>>> performance. Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the 
>>> Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and 
>>> checked the settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery 
>>> life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when 
>>> they ask me to give them access and permissions. 
>>> Sorry for the rant, 
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Anders,
The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding the 
side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular way 
would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I do a 
reboot that way as well from time to time.

> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
>> for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when 
>> we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t 
>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my 
>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. I 
>> couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth but 
>> I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my 
>> phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was sitting 
>> there on Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so fast and I 
>> even checked my battery health and it was still running at peek performance. 
>> Then it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the Lazarillo App, 
>> so I went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and checked the 
>> settings. Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery life was back to 
>> normal. So I’m going to pay more attention to apps when they ask me to give 
>> them access and permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Aha! That might help me too.
I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
Thanks Petrus for that.
/A

> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask 
> for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when we 
> moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t used it 
> for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my location via 
> bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. I couldn’t 
> quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked 
> on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in 
> the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on 
> Sunday trying to work out why my battery was draining so fast and I even 
> checked my battery health and it was still running at peek performance. Then 
> it hit me, the only change I made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I 
> went into my settings and found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. 
> Once I turned off the bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So 
> I’m going to pay more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access 
> and permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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