Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

There were certain 64-bit machines that couldn’t go to Yosemite because they 
could only run a 32-bit kernel and 32-bit EFI or had non-discrete GPUs that 
weren’t supported by 64-bit drivers.  Hence you could well be able to run 
64-bit Windows or another OS on a 2007 Mac, but not OS X.  Obsolescence like 
that is just the lay of the land where Macs are concerned, made worse by the 
new yearly, hardware-dependent release cycles for OS X, now much as with iOS.

You can still buy Lion or Mountain Lion.  You buy them from Apple’s archival 
inventory and get a download code that you can use on the MAS to fetch the 
installers.  You have to call up Apple to make this happen, or possibly only 
use the web store and not the Apple Store app.

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Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[eileen . misrahi]

In order to upgrade to Yosemite, one needs to have Snow Lepard 10.6.8 
installed. If Snow Lepard is installed, but not running the most recent build 
of it, one will need to install 10.6.8 before upgrading to Yosemite. HTH. 

Eileen 

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> On Sep 27, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> No, anyone with a 2007 Mac or later can jump from Snow Leopard to Yosemite. I 
> think that'll be true once El Capitan gets released this Wednesday.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought I read that if it was somewhat newer than that even that you 
>>> couldn't go beyond Lion or Mountain Lion, and if one doesn't have those in 
>>> your purchase list, those machines get stuck at what they came with. I'm 
>>> not sure how true that is though.
>>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 2:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question
>>> 
>>> Hi. You won't have any problems installing on your Mac. I used to have 
>>> Bootcamp but now I've switched back to VMWare Fusion which is all I need 
>>> but that's personal preference. I apologize in advance for going off topic 
>>> a bit, but how old is the MacBook you are using? If it's 2007 or above, you 
>>> can update to the latest version of OS X which is Yosemite and even update 
>>> to El Capitan when it comes out. To find out the year of the Mac, open the 
>>> menu bar with VO+M and go down until you hear about this Mac. Enter on that 
>>> and you should see all the info about the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mauricio Molina <mauriciohmol...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all, 
>>>> Before I ask my question, I want to provide the following information: I 
>>>> have been a Windows user for quite some time and would like to continue to 
>>>> do so. I have also recently taken up the Mac and have been fortunate 
>>>> enough to have an older MacBook Pro given to me while I learn this 
>>>> operating system. Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the older 
>>>> MacBook Pro at my disposal cannot be updated beyond OSX 10.6. On the 
>>>> Windows side my preferred screen reader is JAWS but I also have NVDA and 
>>>> Window-Eyes installed. I would like to add right here that I really do not 
>>>> want to make this a Mac versus PC conversation; as a blind computer I am 
>>>> grateful that I have access to both. 
>>>> Question
>>>> I was considering acquiring both a new Windows 10 laptop as well as a new 
>>>> MacBook Pro. But since I am not independently wealthy, I wondered if it 
>>>> would not be more cost effective purchasing only the MacBook Pro and then 
>>>> installing Windows on that system. I would like to know how well Windows 
>>>> runs on the Mac and get an idea of the difficulty of actually 
>>>> accomplishing this feat. Additionally, are there any recommended specs, 
>>>> such as the amount of RAM or preferred processor, for this type of setup? 
>>>> I am fairly competent with a Windows PC but still consider myself a novice 
>>>> on the Mac; either may or may not be of help during the process of 
>>>> installing Windows on a Mac. Any suggestions and/or recommendations would 
>>>> be greatly appreciated. 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Mauricio
>>>> 
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Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[Brent Harding]

I thought I read that if it was somewhat newer than that even that you couldn't 
go beyond Lion or Mountain Lion, and if one doesn't have those in your purchase 
list, those machines get stuck at what they came with. I'm not sure how true 
that is though.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 2:45 AM
  Subject: Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question


  Hi. You won't have any problems installing on your Mac. I used to have 
Bootcamp but now I've switched back to VMWare Fusion which is all I need but 
that's personal preference. I apologize in advance for going off topic a bit, 
but how old is the MacBook you are using? If it's 2007 or above, you can update 
to the latest version of OS X which is Yosemite and even update to El Capitan 
when it comes out. To find out the year of the Mac, open the menu bar with VO+M 
and go down until you hear about this Mac. Enter on that and you should see all 
the info about the Mac.


  Shawn
  Sent From My White MacBook
  Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
  Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
  Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
  Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Sep 26, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mauricio Molina <mauriciohmol...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hello all, 

Before I ask my question, I want to provide the following information: I 
have been a Windows user for quite some time and would like to continue to do 
so. I have also recently taken up the Mac and have been fortunate enough to 
have an older MacBook Pro given to me while I learn this operating system. 
Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the older MacBook Pro at my disposal 
cannot be updated beyond OSX 10.6. On the Windows side my preferred screen 
reader is JAWS but I also have NVDA and Window-Eyes installed. I would like to 
add right here that I really do not want to make this a Mac versus PC 
conversation; as a blind computer I am grateful that I have access to both. 

Question
I was considering acquiring both a new Windows 10 laptop as well as a new 
MacBook Pro. But since I am not independently wealthy, I wondered if it would 
not be more cost effective purchasing only the MacBook Pro and then installing 
Windows on that system. I would like to know how well Windows runs on the Mac 
and get an idea of the difficulty of actually accomplishing this feat. 
Additionally, are there any recommended specs, such as the amount of RAM or 
preferred processor, for this type of setup? I am fairly competent with a 
Windows PC but still consider myself a novice on the Mac; either may or may not 
be of help during the process of installing Windows on a Mac. Any suggestions 
and/or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks, 

Mauricio


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Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[Shawn Krasniuk]

No, anyone with a 2007 Mac or later can jump from Snow Leopard to Yosemite. I 
think that'll be true once El Capitan gets released this Wednesday.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote:
> 
> I thought I read that if it was somewhat newer than that even that you 
> couldn't go beyond Lion or Mountain Lion, and if one doesn't have those in 
> your purchase list, those machines get stuck at what they came with. I'm not 
> sure how true that is though.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Shawn Krasniuk <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 2:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question
>> 
>> Hi. You won't have any problems installing on your Mac. I used to have 
>> Bootcamp but now I've switched back to VMWare Fusion which is all I need but 
>> that's personal preference. I apologize in advance for going off topic a 
>> bit, but how old is the MacBook you are using? If it's 2007 or above, you 
>> can update to the latest version of OS X which is Yosemite and even update 
>> to El Capitan when it comes out. To find out the year of the Mac, open the 
>> menu bar with VO+M and go down until you hear about this Mac. Enter on that 
>> and you should see all the info about the Mac.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mauricio Molina <mauriciohmol...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:mauriciohmol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all, 
>>> Before I ask my question, I want to provide the following information: I 
>>> have been a Windows user for quite some time and would like to continue to 
>>> do so. I have also recently taken up the Mac and have been fortunate enough 
>>> to have an older MacBook Pro given to me while I learn this operating 
>>> system. Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the older MacBook Pro at 
>>> my disposal cannot be updated beyond OSX 10.6. On the Windows side my 
>>> preferred screen reader is JAWS but I also have NVDA and Window-Eyes 
>>> installed. I would like to add right here that I really do not want to make 
>>> this a Mac versus PC conversation; as a blind computer I am grateful that I 
>>> have access to both. 
>>> Question
>>> I was considering acquiring both a new Windows 10 laptop as well as a new 
>>> MacBook Pro. But since I am not independently wealthy, I wondered if it 
>>> would not be more cost effective purchasing only the MacBook Pro and then 
>>> installing Windows on that system. I would like to know how well Windows 
>>> runs on the Mac and get an idea of the difficulty of actually accomplishing 
>>> this feat. Additionally, are there any recommended specs, such as the 
>>> amount of RAM or preferred processor, for this type of setup? I am fairly 
>>> competent with a Windows PC but still consider myself a novice on the Mac; 
>>> either may or may not be of help during the process of installing Windows 
>>> on a Mac. Any suggestions and/or recommendations would be greatly 
>>> appreciated. 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Mauricio
>>> 
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Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. You won't have any problems installing on your Mac. I used to have Bootcamp 
but now I've switched back to VMWare Fusion which is all I need but that's 
personal preference. I apologize in advance for going off topic a bit, but how 
old is the MacBook you are using? If it's 2007 or above, you can update to the 
latest version of OS X which is Yosemite and even update to El Capitan when it 
comes out. To find out the year of the Mac, open the menu bar with VO+M and go 
down until you hear about this Mac. Enter on that and you should see all the 
info about the Mac.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 26, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mauricio Molina  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
>  
> Before I ask my question, I want to provide the following information: I have 
> been a Windows user for quite some time and would like to continue to do so. 
> I have also recently taken up the Mac and have been fortunate enough to have 
> an older MacBook Pro given to me while I learn this operating system. 
> Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the older MacBook Pro at my 
> disposal cannot be updated beyond OSX 10.6. On the Windows side my preferred 
> screen reader is JAWS but I also have NVDA and Window-Eyes installed. I would 
> like to add right here that I really do not want to make this a Mac versus PC 
> conversation; as a blind computer I am grateful that I have access to both. 
>  
> Question
> I was considering acquiring both a new Windows 10 laptop as well as a new 
> MacBook Pro. But since I am not independently wealthy, I wondered if it would 
> not be more cost effective purchasing only the MacBook Pro and then 
> installing Windows on that system. I would like to know how well Windows runs 
> on the Mac and get an idea of the difficulty of actually accomplishing this 
> feat. Additionally, are there any recommended specs, such as the amount of 
> RAM or preferred processor, for this type of setup? I am fairly competent 
> with a Windows PC but still consider myself a novice on the Mac; either may 
> or may not be of help during the process of installing Windows on a Mac. Any 
> suggestions and/or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. 
>  
> Thanks, 
>  
> Mauricio
> 
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Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

there are some configuration how to install windows on your mac, there's a vm 
ware fusion and bootcamp either way this is both okay.
> On 27 Sep 2015, at 4:50 AM, Mauricio Molina  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
>  
> Before I ask my question, I want to provide the following information: I have 
> been a Windows user for quite some time and would like to continue to do so. 
> I have also recently taken up the Mac and have been fortunate enough to have 
> an older MacBook Pro given to me while I learn this operating system. 
> Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the older MacBook Pro at my 
> disposal cannot be updated beyond OSX 10.6. On the Windows side my preferred 
> screen reader is JAWS but I also have NVDA and Window-Eyes installed. I would 
> like to add right here that I really do not want to make this a Mac versus PC 
> conversation; as a blind computer I am grateful that I have access to both. 
>  
> Question
> I was considering acquiring both a new Windows 10 laptop as well as a new 
> MacBook Pro. But since I am not independently wealthy, I wondered if it would 
> not be more cost effective purchasing only the MacBook Pro and then 
> installing Windows on that system. I would like to know how well Windows runs 
> on the Mac and get an idea of the difficulty of actually accomplishing this 
> feat. Additionally, are there any recommended specs, such as the amount of 
> RAM or preferred processor, for this type of setup? I am fairly competent 
> with a Windows PC but still consider myself a novice on the Mac; either may 
> or may not be of help during the process of installing Windows on a Mac. Any 
> suggestions and/or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. 
>  
> Thanks, 
>  
> Mauricio
> 
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