Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi, Russel, The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of course, free. It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's quite ridiculous. Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi Alex, Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with me. A MacBook is an option though. Thanks again, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility Hi, Russel, The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi Josh, Is iWork a suite of apps like MS Office? Thanks, Russell From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of course, free. It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's quite ridiculous. Josh de Lioncourt .my other mail provider is an owl. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: Hi all, I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. I'm in the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the Mac world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in Windows for my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open Office works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and databases compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my Windows machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the Mac any time soon. As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may be made accessible in the future? Thanks, Russell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of > getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with > me. > A MacBook is an option though. > > Thanks again, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Hi, > Russel, > > The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS > propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. > > For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to > bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >> I'm in >> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >> Mac >> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >> Windows for >> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >> Office >> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >> databases >> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >> Windows >> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >> Mac any >> time soon. >> >> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >> be made >> accessible in the future? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Yes, iWork is an office suite which Apple is actively working on improving access in. It is quite good now, and has been improving. It includes word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation software. Certain aspects of it are a bit cumbersome, particularly with spreadsheets, but it does work reasonably well. As I stated previously, there are lots of options depending on what you need and your personal taste. Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Is iWork a suite of apps like MS Office? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > ] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:16 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works > reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. > There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use > called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are > definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal > preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can > try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of > course, free. > > It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, > for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a > virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows > applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, > though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. > Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and > using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. > > Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's > accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or > not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about > accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's > quite ridiculous. > > > Josh de Lioncourt > …my other mail provider is an owl… > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt > Music: http://stage19music.com > Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com > Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com > GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi May, No, the iMac is a desktop...well, sort of. It's actually quite cool...there's no tower. Everything is built into the monitor, so all you get is the monitor and keyboard. The CD/DVD drive, CPU, sound and video cards, RAM is all built into the monitor. A friend has one...she's not visually impaired though, and it's really nice. Thanks, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Wynter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of > getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with > me. > A MacBook is an option though. > > Thanks again, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Hi, > Russel, > > The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS > propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. > > For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to > bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >> I'm in >> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >> Mac >> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >> Windows for >> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >> Office >> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >> databases >> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >> Windows >> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >> Mac any >> time soon. >> >> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >> be made >> accessible in the future? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Ah, that's pretty cool. I never heard of anything like that. Thanks for the description. May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi May, > > No, the iMac is a desktop...well, sort of. It's actually quite > cool...there's no tower. Everything is built into the monitor, so all you > get is the monitor and keyboard. The CD/DVD drive, CPU, sound and video > cards, RAM is all built into the monitor. A friend has one...she's not > visually impaired though, and it's really nice. > > Thanks, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Wynter > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:13 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? > > May and Wynter with a y > - Original Message ----- > From: "Russell Solowoniuk" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM > Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of >> getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with >> me. >> A MacBook is an option though. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Russell >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility >> >> >> Hi, >> Russel, >> >> The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS >> propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. >> >> For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to >> bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >>> I'm in >>> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >>> Mac >>> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >>> Windows for >>> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >>> Office >>> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >>> databases >>> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >>> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >>> Windows >>> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >>> Mac any >>> time soon. >>> >>> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >>> be made >>> accessible in the future? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi, May: An iMac is a altra thin desktop. Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 1:13 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > > Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? > > May and Wynter with a y > - Original Message - > From: "Russell Solowoniuk" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM > Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was >> thinking of >> getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work >> with >> me. >> A MacBook is an option though. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Russell >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility >> >> >> Hi, >> Russel, >> >> The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS >> propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. >> >> For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to >> bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >>> I'm in >>> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >>> Mac >>> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >>> Windows for >>> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >>> Office >>> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >>> databases >>> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I >>> create a >>> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >>> Windows >>> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >>> Mac any >>> time soon. >>> >>> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >>> be made >>> accessible in the future? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
