RE: Mac book pro touch bar

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mike,

 Is there an option to turn vo on from recovery on a machine with the touch bar?


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On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2017 2:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar

The one limitation is that this does not work to enable voiceover in recovery, 
think i will stick to regular function keys.
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
>  
> I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
> one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.
>  
> Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already 
> have read about it.
>  
> The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
> isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.
>  
> I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right 
> hand corner  I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was 
> formily the eject button on the older machines, It gives a menu with 
> spoken prompts for all the accessibility features And then allows you 
> to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable the feature 
> you require
>  
> All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.
>  
> Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and 
> get VO straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool 
> inclusion making life a bit easier
>  
> Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then 
> it might be easier again, Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to 
> the volume up touch pad area isn’t as easy as it appears
>  
> Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.
> 
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RE: Mac book pro touch bar

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks for this, I assumed there would be alternate keys but hadn’t heard 
anything.

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On Behalf Of Robert Carter
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2017 2:51 AM
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Hi,

If you don’t want to use the Touch Bar to adjust the system volume you can use 
the vo keys and the dash key to lower the volume and the vo and the equals key 
to raise the volume. The dash and equals are on the standard numbers row.

Robert Carter


On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Donna Goodin 
<doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi Simon,

No, I mean the plus/equals key on the number row.  If you go to that key, then 
move your finger up to the touch bar, you should be on the volume control.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

You mean below that touch button?

Or the standard + on the number row.

But yeah it’s a great new feature I wasn’t aware of.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2017 5:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar

Thanks, Simon, this is helpful.  As for the volume control, find the Plus key.  
It's right above that.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi listers,

I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.

Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already have 
read about it.

The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.

I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand corner  
I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily the eject 
button on the older machines,
It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable the 
feature you require

All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.

Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion making 
life a bit easier

Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it might 
be easier again,
Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t as 
easy as it appears

Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.

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RE: Mac book pro touch bar

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

Thanks for that, I hadn’t thought of that as a button finder.



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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2017 1:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar

Hi Simon,

No, I mean the plus/equals key on the number row.  If you go to that key, then 
move your finger up to the touch bar, you should be on the volume control.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

You mean below that touch button?

Or the standard + on the number row.

But yeah it’s a great new feature I wasn’t aware of.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2017 5:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar

Thanks, Simon, this is helpful.  As for the volume control, find the Plus key.  
It's right above that.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi listers,

I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.

Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already have 
read about it.

The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.

I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand corner  
I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily the eject 
button on the older machines,
It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable the 
feature you require

All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.

Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion making 
life a bit easier

Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it might 
be easier again,
Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t as 
easy as it appears

Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.

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Re: Mac book pro touch bar

[Kevin Chao]

"You can use the number row in place of function keys, simply by holding
down function and pressing the number you want. For example, our vo-cmd-f5
command would be the VO modifier, command key, function key, and the number
5. It is important to note that this extends to the accent key, above the
tab key; pressing this with the function key is the same as pressing
escape."

Above is from:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/opinion-reviews/review-2016-macbook-pro-touch-bar

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:55 AM Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> The one limitation is that this does not work to enable voiceover in
> recovery, think i will stick to regular function keys.
> > On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi listers,
> >
> > I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing
> with one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.
> >
> > Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may
> already have read about it.
> >
> > The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility
> features isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys
> being avaible.
> >
> > I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand
> corner  I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily
> the eject button on the older machines,
> > It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
> > And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to
> enable the feature you require
> >
> > All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.
> >
> > Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and
> get VO straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool
> inclusion making life a bit easier
> >
> > Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then
> it might be easier again,
> > Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area
> isn’t as easy as it appears
> >
> > Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.
> >
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Re: Mac book pro touch bar

[Mike Arrigo]

The one limitation is that this does not work to enable voiceover in recovery, 
think i will stick to regular function keys.
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
>  
> I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
> one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.
>  
> Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already 
> have read about it.
>  
> The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
> isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.
>  
> I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand 
> corner  I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily the 
> eject button on the older machines,
> It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
> And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable 
> the feature you require
>  
> All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.
>  
> Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
> straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion 
> making life a bit easier
>  
> Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it 
> might be easier again,
> Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t 
> as easy as it appears
>  
> Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.
> 
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Re: Mac book pro touch bar

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

If you don’t want to use the Touch Bar to adjust the system volume you can use 
the vo keys and the dash key to lower the volume and the vo and the equals key 
to raise the volume. The dash and equals are on the standard numbers row.

Robert Carter


> On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> No, I mean the plus/equals key on the number row.  If you go to that key, 
> then move your finger up to the touch bar, you should be on the volume 
> control.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>>  
>> You mean below that touch button?
>>  
>> Or the standard + on the number row.
>>  
>> But yeah it’s a great new feature I wasn’t aware of.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2017 5:18 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar
>>  
>> Thanks, Simon, this is helpful.  As for the volume control, find the Plus 
>> key.  It's right above that. 
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi listers,
>>  
>> I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing 
>> with one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.
>>  
>> Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already 
>> have read about it.
>>  
>> The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
>> isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.
>>  
>> I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand 
>> corner  I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily 
>> the eject button on the older machines,
>> It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
>> And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable 
>> the feature you require
>>  
>> All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.
>>  
>> Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
>> straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion 
>> making life a bit easier
>>  
>> Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it 
>> might be easier again,
>> Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t 
>> as easy as it appears
>>  
>> Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.
>>  
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Re: Mac book pro touch bar

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Simon,

No, I mean the plus/equals key on the number row.  If you go to that key, then 
move your finger up to the touch bar, you should be on the volume control.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>  
> You mean below that touch button?
>  
> Or the standard + on the number row.
>  
> But yeah it’s a great new feature I wasn’t aware of.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2017 5:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar
>  
> Thanks, Simon, this is helpful.  As for the volume control, find the Plus 
> key.  It's right above that. 
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi listers,
>  
> I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
> one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.
>  
> Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already 
> have read about it.
>  
> The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
> isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.
>  
> I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand 
> corner  I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily the 
> eject button on the older machines,
> It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
> And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable 
> the feature you require
>  
> All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.
>  
> Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
> straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion 
> making life a bit easier
>  
> Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it 
> might be easier again,
> Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t 
> as easy as it appears
>  
> Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.
>  
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RE: Mac book pro touch bar

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

You mean below that touch button?

Or the standard + on the number row.

But yeah it’s a great new feature I wasn’t aware of.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2017 5:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac book pro touch bar

Thanks, Simon, this is helpful.  As for the volume control, find the Plus key.  
It's right above that.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi listers,

I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.

Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already have 
read about it.

The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.

I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand corner  
I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily the eject 
button on the older machines,
It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable the 
feature you require

All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.

Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion making 
life a bit easier

Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it might 
be easier again,
Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t as 
easy as it appears

Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.

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[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Simon, this is helpful.  As for the volume control, find the Plus key.  
It's right above that. 
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
>  
> I just thought I’d pass on a little tip that I found today while playing with 
> one of the new touch bar mac book pro machines.
>  
> Those who have the new MBP have probably found this and others may already 
> have read about it.
>  
> The ability to turn on VoiceOver or one of the other accessibility features 
> isn’t as difficult as we first thought due to no function keys being avaible.
>  
> I found today that if you triple press the button in the top right hand 
> corner  I believe it’s the one for the finger print sensor or was formily the 
> eject button on the older machines,
> It gives a menu with spoken prompts for all the accessibility features
> And then allows you to tab through the list and use the space bar to enable 
> the feature you require
>  
> All with a voiceover like prompt speaking each of the options tabbed to.
>  
> Ok so you could just add in the command key and the top right key and get VO 
> straight away but I just thought this feature was a very cool inclusion 
> making life a bit easier
>  
> Now If I could just find the short cut keys for turning up volume then it 
> might be easier again,
> Tapping the touch bar and then sliding to the volume up touch pad area isn’t 
> as easy as it appears
>  
> Have a good day everyone and hope this is a usefull tip.
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